// #d&d — 2011-08-02
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08:40:27 <Avatar> the good thing about getting no skill gain is you can macro and macro and never go exhausted
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10:22:11 <Mekkis> 1. Gattermann[1] recommends that the operator smoke during the preparation, for he found that a trace of hydrogen cyanide is sufficient to give the tobacco smoke a highly characteristic flavor. This preliminary warning is useful in case of leaky apparatus or a faulty hood.
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15:05:55 <Mekkis> as long as most a majority of low income people still vote for a party that will tax the low incomes but cover the high incomes, they get what they deserve I guess :-\
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18:03:07 <Avatar> Mekkis: is there a party that doesn't do that
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18:03:19 <Avatar> w/e
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18:10:36 <Ballig> w/e
18:29:10 <Avatar> Mekkis: is there a party that doesn't do that
18:58:35 <Mekkis> Avatar, in general, Australia tends to tax the high incomes more
20:11:07 <Avatar> I got a census
20:11:20 <Avatar> like just in case I want to submit a paper census instead of doing it online
20:11:37 <Avatar> maybe they think I will want to pretend I am a neanderthal that night
20:11:48 <Avatar> quite considerate of them to give me that option I think
20:13:18 <Ballig> when is the census night
20:13:40 <Avatar> 9th aug
20:13:59 <Avatar> anyone know a way to manipulate the answers so that people like us get free shit
20:14:12 <Ballig> what's "free shit"
20:14:20 <Avatar> you know, free health care and whatnot
20:14:42 <Ballig> we get free health care
20:15:00 <Avatar> I don't
20:15:04 <Ballig> yes you do
20:15:07 <Ballig> what do you think your medicare card does
20:15:20 <Avatar> that's not free enough
20:15:45 <Ballig> it's just that doctors want to charge more than medicare pays
20:16:00 <Ballig> that's what "free health care" is though
20:16:03 <Ballig> there's also free public hospitals
20:16:11 <Ballig> you can go and get surgery and not pay a cent
20:16:37 <Avatar> well you know, other things
20:16:51 <Avatar> other free shit
20:17:02 <Avatar> that don't require you to be married and have a kid or three
20:17:04 <Ballig> you realise that's not how censuses work, right
20:17:12 <Avatar> of course it is
20:17:13 <Ballig> a census just collects data
20:17:15 <Avatar> that's what they told us
20:17:16 <Ballig> it's not used to give you free stuff
20:17:20 <Avatar> it will help them where to allocate funding
20:17:28 <Avatar> they should allocate it to us
20:17:30 <Avatar> to more d&d
20:18:10 <Ballig> doesn't help them allocate funding at all
20:19:14 <Avatar> that's what they say it does
20:19:33 <Ballig> you know that it doesn't
20:19:45 <Avatar> “It’s so important to complete the Census form accurately because it will shed some light on your community. Census information is used to allocate funding for critical infrastructure and services such as roads, schools, parks and hospitals,” Mr Lowe says.
20:20:12 <Ballig> it doesn't, though
20:20:19 <Ballig> that's just how they convince you to do it
20:20:28 <Avatar> then I'm not fucking doing it
20:20:35 <Avatar> what is the point
20:20:44 <Avatar> I will just tell them I am a muslim
20:21:03 <Avatar> that way maybe they will think I might start a holy war
20:21:08 <Avatar> for false advertising for the census
20:25:49 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxGS-2M6_5I
20:30:46 <Brunius> Avatar, you are legally required to submit a census.
20:31:12 <Brunius> (form)
20:31:25 <Avatar> yeah I will just tell them I am a muslim
20:31:39 <Avatar> no I can't do that if I want money can I
20:32:00 <Avatar> do you reckon they will look after you better if you pretend to be upper or lower class
20:33:28 <Ballig> you clearly don't understand censuses
20:35:06 <Avatar> oh here we go, aboroiginal
20:35:11 <Avatar> aboriginal*
20:37:48 <Ballig> are you expecting to put "aboriginal" on your census and then receive a cheque in the mail a few weeks later?
20:37:56 <Avatar> no but they will give me free shit
20:38:03 <Avatar> this 'area'
20:38:51 <Ballig> nope
20:39:13 <Ballig> let's say that you got yourself and 500 of your neighbours to all put yourselves as aboriginal or torres strait islander
20:39:43 <Ballig> all that might accomplish (still unlikely) is make the government think "oh, shit, there's a relatively large community of indigenous people in X suburb. maybe we should consider opening some more indigenous-specific services there."
20:40:34 <Ballig> so if your end goal is to get an aboriginal tenants advice and advocacy service started in your area, go for it
20:40:53 <Ballig> (hint: you won't actually be able to use the service, it will be for indigenous people only)
20:40:55 <Avatar> haha
20:40:59 <Avatar> well maybe something else
20:41:10 <Avatar> you are probably on the money with that one
20:41:20 <Brunius> Avatar, it's not going to work.
20:41:23 <Avatar> no to schooling
20:41:23 <Brunius> Just accept it.
20:41:31 <Avatar> Brunius: that's a losers attitude
20:41:45 <Avatar> don't you want to be a winner
20:41:46 <Brunius> That's a loser's attitude because it's not going to work.
20:41:51 <Avatar> don't you want to be a winner
20:41:55 <Brunius> I'm bi-winning.
20:41:58 <Brunius> :P
20:42:33 <Brunius> Don't forget to put your religion down as Jedi!
20:52:19 <Avatar> fucking electricity bill came
21:15:44 <Brunius> I hate you VCE
21:15:47 <Brunius> I hate you.
21:16:01 <Avatar> don't you have to be in grade 12 to do that
21:16:11 <Brunius> ...
21:16:19 <Brunius> I'm going into VCE next year.
21:16:28 <Avatar> what am I thinking of
21:16:34 <Brunius> Gotta make subject choices now.
21:16:46 <Avatar> what are you thinking of choosing
21:16:56 <Brunius> Craft Of Writing
21:16:56 <Brunius> Classical Studies
21:16:56 <Brunius> Engineering Project
21:16:56 <Brunius> English 1/2
21:16:56 <Brunius> Literature 1/2
21:16:56 <Brunius> Business Management 1/2
21:16:56 <Brunius> General Mathematics 1/2
21:16:56 <Brunius> Maths Methods 1/2
21:16:56 <Brunius> Chemistry 1/2
21:16:56 <Brunius> Physics 1/2
21:16:57 <Brunius> Information Technology 1/2
21:16:57 <Brunius> English 3/4
21:16:57 <Brunius> Maths Methods 3/4
21:16:57 <Brunius> Chemistry 3/4
21:16:57 <Brunius> Physics 3/4
21:16:57 <Brunius> IT Software Development 3/4
21:17:24 <Avatar> you can choose all of that?
21:17:34 <Brunius> Three Year VCE
21:17:38 <Brunius> I get 16 subjects
21:17:47 <Brunius> As opposed to the normal 11
21:18:01 <Avatar> I did chemistry and was fucking it right up
21:18:06 <Avatar> got out of there and switched to easy maths
21:18:15 <Avatar> while I was also doing semihard maths
21:18:18 <Brunius> I like Chem
21:18:26 <Brunius> I remember the stuff pretty easily
21:18:58 <Avatar> I was failing the shit out of semihard maths as well, but I needed it for my IT degree, so I tortured myself with it for another year
21:19:24 <Avatar> in the end my OP counted for nothing anyway
21:19:50 <Brunius> Semihard is Probably further maths
21:20:09 <Avatar> then there's stupidhard maths
21:20:10 <Brunius> I'm pretty crap at math but I'm thinking going into engineering and I need it for that.
21:20:18 <Brunius> (Need methods, that is)
21:20:25 <Avatar> I'm not sure it is actually stupidhard, I don't know enough about it
21:20:28 <Brunius> stupidhard is probably methods or AGM
21:20:32 <Avatar> different strand or something
21:20:54 <Avatar> drama was my best subject
21:21:15 <Avatar> drama/IT were the repreieves
21:21:24 <Avatar> I was pretty decent at english
21:21:44 <Avatar> you're doing mostly maths and science
21:21:52 <Avatar> you're game
21:22:44 <Avatar> I got an OP 15, where 1 is the best and 25 is the worst
21:22:52 <Brunius> OP?
21:22:53 <Avatar> I expected 15-18, so I was pretty satisfied with that
21:22:59 <Avatar> it's qld's rating system
21:23:02 <Brunius> Ah
21:23:10 <Brunius> They call it ATAR down here
21:23:18 <Avatar> I got uh
21:23:27 <Avatar> 3 B's, a C and 2 E's in my subjects
21:23:40 <Avatar> and they don't count your lowest mark
21:24:05 <Brunius> Night.
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21:24:15 <Avatar> are you leaving
21:24:20 <Avatar> we are having a good old chat about education
21:25:54 <Avatar> Ballig: seems like every time I am checking Bob, I am always doing carpentry now
21:26:06 <Avatar> because I am never exhausted and don't fucking gain
21:26:25 <Avatar> too slowly anyway
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