// #australia — 2022-06-07
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03:44:00 <doggyrat> hello
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16:44:00 <doggyrat> [16:04:10] Doggyrat is a kind of lifetime retard wannabe a hobbyist, but just makes it up to a retarded hobbyist
16:44:00 <doggyrat> [16:04:37] i am good in marketing , ain't i
16:44:00 <gee_man> [16:04:53] it's all politics to me
16:44:00 <gee_man> [16:05:08] i try to ignore humour as much as i can
16:44:00 <gee_man> [16:05:28] humour tends to distract from critical thinking
16:44:00 <gee_man> [16:06:03] except in cases where you may be telling the joke
16:44:00 <gee_man> [16:06:23] but i would refrain from becoming a comedian due to how depressing comedians' lives are
16:44:00 <doggyrat> [16:08:02] this morning i got the idea to use 10x10 mm aluminum profiles for the frame part of my project
16:44:00 <doggyrat> [16:09:15] a bit more expensive than 3D printed parts , but easier and faster produce or in my case to buy
16:44:00 <doggyrat> [16:36:24] looking at the Ukraine , if you fail as comedian become President ;)
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17:41:00 <gee_man> doggyrat he didn't fail at being a comedian, actually he was very successful
17:44:00 <doggyrat> i know , i was just joking , i guess he did joke about Putin too
17:45:00 <doggyrat> at the moment i do look for 10x10mm aluminum profiles 10cm long each would be enough for my needs
17:46:00 <gee_man> why not use springs?
17:46:00 <gee_man> 'cause you don't want to wait until tuesday
17:46:00 <gee_man> ?
17:47:00 <doggyrat> i wait until Tuesday and will mount these springs
17:48:00 <gee_man> so what do you need the profiles for?
17:48:00 <doggyrat> the aluminum profile should be used as frame for my project
17:48:00 <gee_man> ohh
17:49:00 <doggyrat> yesterday i did design two 3D printed versions, but it takes long , if i would use aluminum profiles i do have less work and could sell it even cheaper
17:50:00 <gee_man> fair enough
17:50:00 <gee_man> dunno why you keep saying you're retarded, that's actually analysing cost-benefit ratio in your mind on the fly, that's not retarded
17:51:00 <doggyrat> as you do not look into YT , i can not show you how the first prototypes did look like
17:52:00 <gee_man> modern day inventions have many iterations before they're used widely
17:52:00 <gee_man> many prototypes
18:19:00 <doggyrat> well i will never go into serial production, my topic are improvised or homemade solution
18:19:00 <gee_man> you might eventually
18:19:00 <gee_man> that's how businesses start
18:20:00 <gee_man> you'll have to file a patent eventually, tho, otherwise someone will steal your designs
18:20:00 <doggyrat> i doubt that i can get a patent on what i am doing
18:21:00 <gee_man> why?
18:21:00 <doggyrat> best thing i could achieve would be design patent
18:22:00 <gee_man> of course, you just need the money to apply for it, etc etc.
18:23:00 <doggyrat> i do put the functionality on youtube that way i might not even get a design patent anymore
18:23:00 <doggyrat> but other can not either
18:23:00 <gee_man> true
18:23:00 <gee_man> but you could iterate the prototypes
18:23:00 <gee_man> different designs
18:27:00 <doggyrat> well to get my project military certified all parts would have to be waterproof, which is a big challenge specially for 3D printed housings
18:27:00 <gee_man> you can do that much later, you just have to concentrate on your current design
20:16:00 <Bonny> hmmm
20:16:00 <Bonny> this is how ideas get stolen
20:29:00 <gee_man> how do you mean Bonny?
20:30:00 <gee_man> by discussing that they could potentially be stolen?
20:30:00 <Bonny> well showing pics of his projects and discussing it
20:30:00 <Bonny> yup
20:31:00 <gee_man> by the troll bots?
20:31:00 <Bonny> all the users in this channel are not bots
20:31:00 <gee_man> hm, i guess that leaves us
20:32:00 <gee_man> i'm not going to steal it
20:32:00 <gee_man> i'm also not going to give him money to buy a patent, either
20:32:00 <Bonny> and he doesn't just discuss it here.. he discusses it in other channels on here and on dalnet
20:32:00 <gee_man> even on dalnet? lol
20:32:00 <Bonny> yup
20:32:00 <Bonny> he goes on dalnet
20:32:00 <gee_man> i'd say the idea is already stolen, then
20:32:00 <Bonny> probably
20:33:00 <gee_man> well, the thing about being an inventor, is that there's always another idea
20:33:00 <Bonny> uhuh
20:33:00 <gee_man> if your first milllion dollar idea gets stolen, there's another idea that you can apply what you learnt to
20:34:00 <Bonny> and that would get stolen too as doggyrat discusses it
20:34:00 <gee_man> i'm in the same boat, really
20:35:00 <Bonny> uhuh
20:35:00 <gee_man> when i realised this, i published them in my twitter feed so that they can't be stolen
20:35:00 <Bonny> they can be stolen from twitter feeds too
20:36:00 <gee_man> yeah that's the idea, they're public so they can't be stolen
20:36:00 <Bonny> ok
20:36:00 <gee_man> i think that's the same kind of thinking that doggyrat hasw
20:36:00 <gee_man> -w
20:37:00 <Bonny> can't be stolen but someone could create your idea and improve on it b4 doggyrat gets a chance to finish it
20:37:00 <gee_man> true
20:37:00 <Bonny> brb
20:37:00 <gee_man> i'm still waiting on elon musk to steal my idea of using humans to remote control cars
20:37:00 <gee_man> instead of a.i.
20:44:00 <Bonny> back
20:59:00 <gee_man> that was an edison joke
21:55:00 <doggyrat> sorry i had a nap
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