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00:00 <Werethekau> na whisky instead of beer
01:00 <Werethekau> and gourmet pizza instead of fish and chips
01:00 <Warren1984> would you be more cofident if you catch a fish, build a dog box, build a fence, set up outside security lights, pave bricks, lay tiles, make a shade cloth covering for veggies, put amesha on windows, put up shelves, make a bookcase, know how to weld and paint?
02:00 <Warren1984> what about when you have children
02:00 <doctor> i'm too poor to afford whisky and gourmet pizza. just a barrel of water mixed with old grass trimmings and frozen battered carboard pieces for me
02:00 <Warren1984> daddy, daddy can you take me fishing
02:00 <Warren1984> sorry sun I am incompetent
02:00 <Warren1984> son
02:00 <Werethekau> Warren1984: hahahaha yea
02:00 <Werethekau> "sorry son I am not a man"
03:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ grow some hairs
03:00 <Werethekau> Warren1984: you know what I was talking about re: safety earlier
03:00 <Werethekau> I go alone but I take it to the extreme with safety
04:00 <Werethekau> Not only do I take a PLB, I also take an Inmarsat phone
04:00 <Warren1984> yeah I know what you mean
04:00 <Warren1984> that guy shark from family guy will eat you, if you are swept off the rocks
05:00 <Warren1984> guy = gay
05:00 <Werethekau> well rock fishing still remains the most dangerous sport in oz
05:00 <Warren1984> I go alone, but there are usually other fishermen there
05:00 <Warren1984> even some women
06:00 <Werethekau> trout fishing doesn't really have the same risk. Just snakes and stuff
06:00 <Werethekau> I nearly caught a snake on the weekend
06:00 <doctor> we as australians need to encourage more risk taking - need to invoke the animal spirit
06:00 <Tigger_> caught a snake how?
09:00 <Werethekau> Well I was sitting on the banks trying to sight some activity and the only activity I got was a snake slid past like I wasn't even there
10:00 <Tigger_> was it in the water or on the rocks?
10:00 <hghghg> last time i was at hillarys there was all these stray kittens hiding in the rocks 
10:00 <hghghg> one looked like a bobcat
10:00 <Tigger_> that's quite cute
11:00 <hghghg> so i got some bait to try and coach one out
11:00 <Tigger_> cat mountain
11:00 <hghghg> someone must have dumped the kittens there
11:00 <Tigger_> poor kittens, so no mother in sight?
11:00 <hghghg> nope
12:00 <Werethekau> Yea happens all the time
12:00 <Werethekau> You're supposed to dump them at the RSPCA
12:00 <FriedChriss> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Austnet
13:00 <hghghg> most people would take them to the RSPCA atleast so I would have to say it was either abos or maoris
14:00 <hghghg> they probable tried to drown them in the ocean near the rocks but they got out
14:00 <FriedChriss> THIS IS LO http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=mrwhvq&s=8
14:00 <Werethekau> Because they did something dumb you'd have to say they're black? Umm, okay then.
15:00 <hghghg> 99.9% of the time it is abos or maoris that do those things
16:00 <Tigger_> #politicaldebate doesn't get a mention
16:00 <Werethekau> And yet they're only 3% of the population. They must all be dumb criminals
17:00 <hghghg> they are sub-human
18:00 <brettingham_hiv_4_lyfe> rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
18:00 <Tigger_> hi brettingham_hiv_4_lyfe 
18:00 <brettingham_hiv_4_lyfe> morning
18:00 <hghghg> best to keep at all times long distances between boongs and maoris this includes the half cast breeds
19:00 <Werethekau> Also, about them boat people
20:00 <Marttin> Props tho brett
28:00 <Marttin> welcome again
28:00 <brettingham_hiv_4_lyfe> is your sister marrying that boy?
32:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ so is purchasing a dead fish from the shop, gutting it and feeding it to your cats and the meat to your fellow Catholics who eat fish and chips on Friday a bad thing?
32:00 <Tigger_> I'm not a Catholic, and never have been
34:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ wouldn't you feel incompetent if you cannot do at least some of the things, I mentioned above
34:00 <Tigger_> I can cut bushes and put them in the bin
35:00 <hghghg> you hurt poor bushes what did they ever do ?
35:00 <Warren1984> using a folding saw
35:00 <Warren1984> yeah Tigger_
36:00 <Tigger_> I don't think bushes feel pain
36:00 <Warren1984> but thats what you think
36:00 <Tigger_> they don't have a central nervous system
36:00 <Warren1984> is it a fact?
36:00 <Warren1984> that doesn't mean anything
36:00 <Tigger_> but I am not killing the bushes, I am pruning them back
36:00 <Warren1984> same thing as chopping off your arms
36:00 <Tigger_> arms don't grow back
37:00 <Tigger_> whereas the branches will
37:00 <hghghg> im pretty sure human arms and legs can grow back when they are chopped off
37:00 <Tigger_> false equivalence
37:00 <Warren1984> doesn't mean that it isn't painful to them
37:00 <Warren1984> what prove do you have that it doesn't hurt them
37:00 <hghghg> Tigger_, have you heard of the thornlie tree man ?
37:00 <Tigger_> no
38:00 <hghghg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmxN_Y_utAY&list=UUFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA
38:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Soverign Tree Man
39:00 <hghghg> he lived in a tree because they wanted to chop it down
39:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ likes comics and they are made from trees
39:00 <hghghg> and we need trees to breath fresh air
40:00 <Warren1984> that is true
40:00 <hghghg> hence killing humans
40:00 <hghghg> worse than killing fish
40:00 <Warren1984> we need air from the trees
40:00 <Tigger_> we're not running out of air
40:00 <hghghg> we are
41:00 <Warren1984> http://www.treesaregood.com/treecare/resources/WhyToppingHurts.pdf
41:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is a tree murderer
41:00 <Tigger_> but they're still alive, I haven't killed any of them
42:00 <Tigger_> I just prune them and eventually they regrow, then I prune them again
42:00 <hghghg> that's unnatural
42:00 <Warren1984> read the article Tigger_
43:00 <Werethekau> From the Government who successfully covered up UFOs, Watergate, the invasion plans for Desert Storm, Sept 11, wiretaps, global warming, and Obamas place of birth....
43:00 <Werethekau> http://theaviationist.com/2014/10/08/new-photos-f117-ttr/
43:00 <Tigger_> would it be better if I just had concrete everywhere?  and no bushes at all to prune
43:00 <Werethekau> oh I didn't mention chemtrails. my bad :/
44:00 <Werethekau> but to summarise, apparently they're still flying at least two of the F-117 stealth fighters that were supposidly retired
45:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ but what if everyone did that?
46:00 <Tigger_> did what?
46:00 <Werethekau> Warren1984: nice link. When I had a vegie garden I'd top the tomatos because it made them grow faster, stronger, and bigger.
47:00 <Werethekau> Also when we cut parts away from some trees on the boundary so we could install a fence... they went fucking nuts and doubled in size in a couple years.
47:00 <Werethekau> But "topping hurts trees" :D
50:00 <hghghg> those weed killer chemicals are bad for the environment
50:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ got rid of there trees and laid down concrete
50:00 <Werethekau> hghghg: yea like soap
50:00 <Warren1984> what do you mean top the tomatos
50:00 <hghghg> i dont use soap
50:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, that seems to be what you want me to do instead of pruning the trees
50:00 <hghghg> leave them
51:00 <Werethekau> Warren1984: cutting the top of the plant in the right place promotes the plant to grow outwards instead of upwards
51:00 <Warren1984> oh so now you are playing the blame game Tigger_
51:00 <Werethekau> Warren1984: the branches begin to receive more nutrients
51:00 <Werethekau> Warren1984: its useful to do when producing fruit because the fruit receive more nutrients and grows bigger
52:00 <Werethekau> Its actually a spastically simple concept of horticulture that tree hugging fuckwits don't appreciate
53:00 <hghghg> i heard that you have to be carefu growing your own vegtables 
54:00 <hghghg> could poison urself
54:00 <Werethekau> Yea the NSA's chemtrails are targetting peoples vegetable gardens so the ATO can collect more revenue
54:00 <doctor> yes, you shouldn't grow your own but work for a wage so you can buy vegetables you can feel safe consuming
54:00 <hghghg> these bannanas i have are very big definately genetically modified
55:00 <hghghg> and they stay so fresh for days
55:00 <ishmael> lol
55:00 <ishmael> you should go to the usa
55:00 <hghghg> you dont get the vitamins and that from fruit and veg at supermarkets anymore the way they grow its not natural
55:00 <ishmael> cheese that doesnt go moldy ever
55:00 <ishmael> same with bread
55:00 <hghghg> its the same here now
56:00 <hghghg> same companies 
56:00 <ishmael> my cheese still gets moldy
56:00 <ishmael> same with bread
56:00 <hghghg> mine doesnt
56:00 <hghghg> says it doesnt expire for years
56:00 <Werethekau> People actually believe that ya know... Meanwhile the dietry science suggests GMO and other modern farming techniques produces fruit with more nutrients.
57:00 <Werethekau> sorry not suggets... proves.
57:00 <hghghg> yeah but how would the average people know they can't test things they're not scientists
58:00 <Werethekau> Why do people worry about unproven carcinogens in their food when the things they ingest most are drugs?
58:00 <hghghg> i read somewhere that a lot of the labelling on food is complete rubbish and misleading
59:00 <Werethekau> Its an approx guide. Not accurate but not quite rubbish either
59:00 <hghghg> they mislead people
59:00 <Werethekau> Age of produce affects nutrients. As the food ages, some nutrients increase, others decrease
00:00 <Werethekau> So if you eat it the same day you buy it vs a week later, can have significant differences
00:00 <hghghg> yeah not just the nutrients but whats in the food take gluten for example or ice cream
00:00 <hghghg> what is most ice cream made from ?
00:00 <Werethekau> For exactly the same batch of food
00:00 <Werethekau> Ice cream is made from goodness
00:00 <hghghg> How do they make tomato sauce such a perfect red color ?
01:00 <hghghg> you know how they make tomato sauce such a perfect red color ?
01:00 <hghghg> its not natural
01:00 <hghghg> they use cockroaches
01:00 <Werethekau> HEH
01:00 <hghghg> insects
01:00 <hghghg> for the coloring
01:00 <Werethekau> ever been to cambodia?
01:00 <Warren1984> bee_girl hates me
01:00 <Werethekau> I like eating insects
01:00 <Werethekau> Warren1984: same here
02:00 <Tigger_> why does bee_girl hate you?
02:00 <Warren1984> because I do things she doesn't approve of
02:00 <Warren1984> like gutting a fish
03:00 <Werethekau> Does bee_girl eat meat?
03:00 <Tigger_> I see
03:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ give your pet some potato chips
04:00 <Tigger_> potato chips sure are nice
04:00 <Warren1984> does he like them
04:00 <Warren1984> the salt and vinegar ones
05:00 <hghghg> so Tigger_ can't call himself a vegitarian
05:00 <hghghg> he eats traces of insects in foods
05:00 <Tigger_> that is involuntary though
06:00 <Tigger_> I do not have agency over things like that
07:00 <Werethekau> Are you vegan or just vegitarian?
07:00 <ishmael> insects are vegetables
07:00 <Warren1984> he gives his pet Pringles
08:00 <hghghg> not just insects im sure some of the things he eats have traces of dead west africans who died of ebola
08:00 <hghghg> after MOSSAD harvested the organs
08:00 <Tigger_> vegetarian
08:00 <Werethekau> For what reason do you choose to be vegetarian?
09:00 <Warren1984> because he is autistic and has no empathy for animals
10:00 <Werethekau> You know whats really nice. Toast with cottage cheese, tomato, onion, black pepper
10:00 <Werethekau> I'm starting to really like cottage cheese. Packed with protein. Is lower in fat than the cheeses most people eat
10:00 <Tigger_> 8 But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.
10:00 <Tigger_> 9 Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.
10:00 <Tigger_> 10 And the prince of the eunuchs said unto Daniel, I fear my lord the king, who hath appointed your meat and your drink: for why should he see your faces worse liking than the children which are of your sort? then shall ye make me endanger my head to the king.
10:00 <Tigger_> 11 Then said Daniel to Melzar, whom the prince of the eunuchs had set over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,
10:00 <Tigger_> 12 Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat, and water to drink.
11:00 <Tigger_> 13 Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and the countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's meat: and as thou seest, deal with thy servants.
11:00 <Tigger_> 14 So he consented to them in this matter, and proved them ten days.
11:00 <Tigger_> 15 And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat.
11:00 <hghghg>  /clear
11:00 <Tigger_> 16 Thus Melzar took away the portion of their meat, and the wine that they should drink; and gave them pulse.
12:00 <Werethekau> Uhh wat
13:00 <Werethekau> By "the king" I suppose the bible is refering to god
13:00 <Werethekau> And not me, a carnivorious meat eater
14:00 <Werethekau> However, what fair and honest God would create man in his image, with carnivorious teeth and stomaches, and then forbid us to eat meat?
18:00 <Werethekau> If thats fair and honest, it seems equally as fair and honest to eat meat against God's wishes.
19:00 <doctor> carbs are better for energy when tilling the kings soil
19:00 <hghghg> ya need protein
19:00 <hghghg> u would survive for a little while as a vegan
19:00 <hghghg> not long tho
19:00 <doctor> people can live long lives as vegans
20:00 <hghghg> not as long as people who eat meat
20:00 <doctor> rich indians have been doing it for ages
22:00 <Werethekau> http://allsp.ch/l.php?id=e249
23:00 <doctor> haha, yeah I saw that the other day
24:00 <doctor> the newest one is called "cissies"
24:00 <Werethekau> Veganism is actually whats allowed India to have a massive population. If they ate meat, or removed rice from their diet, they'd need significantly more land or millions would die.
24:00 <Werethekau> However that lifestyle is not for me. I like eating meat and I'm prepared to kill and butcher my meats if necessary.
26:00 <doctor> it's not a moral issue for me
27:00 <hghghg> Werethekau, in the 1993 movie Alive they eat human flesh to survive when stuck in the Andes when their plane crashed
27:00 <Werethekau> There aren't really any other sources of food in the andes
28:00 <hghghg> exactly
28:00 <Werethekau> So even veganism isn't an option in that scenario
28:00 <hghghg> which part of the human body would you eat first ?
28:00 <Werethekau> Legs and arms
28:00 <Werethekau> They're always the tastiest
28:00 <hghghg> apparently the buttocks is the most meaty
28:00 <Werethekau> I would've imagined it has the most fat
29:00 <hghghg> but i prefer a bit of brain or eye ball
29:00 <hghghg> maybe a heart
29:00 <Werethekau> well then
29:00 <Werethekau> Have you eaten those parts on a chicken?
29:00 <Werethekau> Or a cow?
29:00 <hghghg> i dont eat chicken or cow
29:00 <hghghg> they're full of bacteria
30:00 <Werethekau> HEH
30:00 <Werethekau> veggies aren't?
30:00 <hghghg> and what they are fed before they are slaughtered is bottom feed
30:00 <hghghg> no i just only eat certain meats
30:00 <hghghg> i try to avoid it
30:00 <Werethekau> Such as?
31:00 <hghghg> fish
31:00 <Werethekau> Well
31:00 <Werethekau> Ever eaten heads of prawns?
31:00 <Werethekau> Its quite popular in chinese cuisine
31:00 <hghghg> i dont eat the heads
31:00 <hghghg> dont think so maybe
31:00 <Werethekau> Why not? Its okay for a human
32:00 <Werethekau> What I'm getting at, is do you expect a human to be any different to eating prawns? Its really not
32:00 <doctor> wild fish is full of disease, parasites and horrible growths
32:00 <Werethekau> But prawn heads are actually a nice dish
32:00 <Werethekau> Its just our culture turn their noses up at it, like its not worthy
32:00 <hghghg> yes i love king prawns
32:00 <Werethekau> When in fact theres nothing wrong with it
32:00 <doctor> wont kill you
32:00 <hghghg> garlic king prawns
32:00 <Tigger_> <doctor> wild fish is full of disease, parasites and horrible growths   <- so not a good idea to go fishing?
33:00 <Werethekau> doctor: vegetables are as well
33:00 <doctor> if you don't like being exposed to those kinds of things then no
33:00 <doctor> true
33:00 <hghghg> depends on the fish and when you cook it should get rid of anything bad but you can eat it raw
33:00 <hghghg> tuna can be eaten basically raw
34:00 <Werethekau> Tony A is kind of right with his idea of "the age of entitlement"
34:00 <Werethekau> Food is food. Fucking eat it and quit bitching.
34:00 <hghghg> Werethekau, its a delicasy in china
34:00 <Werethekau> I feel that way about prawn heads, road kill, eyes, pate, and plenty of other things people don't want to eat
34:00 <doctor> if you get a parasite from fish it's from the fresh water ones, as the salinity of the ocean (where the parasites reside) is much stronger than that of the stomach or blood stream
34:00 <doctor> there is one disease you can catch though from seafish, normally from the big one
35:00 <doctor> quite nasty but can't remember its name
35:00 <hghghg> some fish are poisoness
35:00 <Werethekau> doctor: if you get cancer from a fish its the salt water ones
35:00 <Werethekau> Mercury
35:00 <doctor> yeah mercury can screw you up
35:00 <doctor> but this was a tropical disease, not mercury poisoning
35:00 <hghghg> what about oysters ?
35:00 <doctor> quite rare
35:00 <hghghg> chilli muscles
36:00 <doctor> oysters are usually fine unless spoiled by ecoli or something similar
36:00 <Werethekau> Thing is parasites are curable. Cancer isn't really
36:00 <hghghg> chilli muscles?
36:00 <doctor> same thing, but less likely as theyre cooked
36:00 <Werethekau> There are similar issues with every food you eat
37:00 <doctor> yeah everything has its risks. life is quite risky
37:00 <hghghg> i had some dim sims before
37:00 <Werethekau> Yes. So take off your diaper and enjoy the breeze
37:00 <hghghg> filled me up
37:00 <hghghg> and a t-bone steak
40:00 <hghghg> meat makes you strong
40:00 <Werethekau> You can live equally as strong on a vegan diet, possibly even stronger
40:00 <Werethekau> However I like meat
41:00 <hghghg> not like you have to eat meat everyday
41:00 <hghghg> i dont
42:00 <Werethekau> I do
42:00 <Werethekau> Nearly every meal I eat has meat
42:00 <hghghg> i usually switch to a mediterranean diet
43:00 <hghghg> nice vegitarian pizzas and white wine and fruit
44:00 <Werethekau> If I pick up a roo I'll send you pictures of me butchering it
10:00 <ishmael> https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=905832276128553&fref=nf
36:00 <ishmael> hey dog dicks
36:00 <ishmael> Tigger_, are you awake?
36:00 <Tigger_> yes
36:00 <ishmael> ahhh
37:00 <ishmael> phew
37:00 <ishmael> how are you?
37:00 <ishmael> what are you doing?
37:00 <ishmael> lol
37:00 <Tigger_> mildly tired, mildly depressed
37:00 <ishmael> I've just had a huuuge skype with burcu
37:00 <Tigger_> how about you?
37:00 <ishmael> oh man :(
37:00 <ishmael> i'm feeling great
37:00 <Tigger_> what's she got to say?
37:00 <ishmael> wish i could cheer you up somehow
37:00 <Tigger_> it's only mild
37:00 <ishmael> she's scared of me
37:00 <Tigger_> why?
37:00 <ishmael> but she wants to forgive me
38:00 <ishmael> apparently I was violent during my alcoholism
38:00 <ishmael> something i am deeply ashamed of
38:00 <Tigger_> how violent?
38:00 <ishmael> she's back into reading the comics
38:00 <ishmael> look, i'm not sure
38:00 <ishmael> i didn't want to ask
38:00 <Tigger_> what comics?
39:00 <ishmael> i did put her brother in the hospital at one point
39:00 <Tigger_> that's very serious
39:00 <ishmael> so probably not great
39:00 <ishmael> apparently she had to throw a chair at me or soemthing
39:00 <Tigger_> you could've ended up in prison too
39:00 <ishmael> to get me away
39:00 <ishmael> i was defending myself
39:00 <ishmael> so no
40:00 <ishmael> he kind of deserved it in a way
40:00 <ishmael> he was often trying to fight me
40:00 <ishmael> and every time he was the one who got hurt
40:00 <ishmael> he chased me down the street once trying to get me
40:00 <Tigger_> you can still be done for GBH in self defence
40:00 <ishmael> i was like is this serious?
40:00 <ishmael> he's chasing me
40:00 <ishmael> anyway he got up to me
40:00 <Tigger_> why was he chasing you?
40:00 <ishmael> to fight me!
41:00 <ishmael> and grabs me by the shirt and is trying to punch my face
41:00 <ishmael> with one hit i got him to the ground
41:00 <ishmael> i'm not trying to sound like a tuff cunt
41:00 <Tigger_> but why did he want to fight you?
41:00 <ishmael> but that's what happened
41:00 <ishmael> I didn't want to sleep in his bed or some bs like that
41:00 <Tigger_> well you are tall, so you probably have the advantage
41:00 <ishmael> we hadd an argument in the house
41:00 <Tigger_> ah so you rejected him
41:00 <ishmael> and i ran away so he wouldnt hurt me
42:00 <ishmael> but he chased me
42:00 <ishmael> yeah
42:00 <ishmael> so he tried to attack me in public on commercial rd
42:00 <ishmael> this man came to try and get him off me
43:00 <ishmael> i just whacked him one
43:00 <ishmael> gave him a massive chimney
43:00 <ishmael> anyway his mum knows the bs that goes on between him and i
44:00 <ishmael> and that's why I think no charges or anything eventuated
44:00 <Tigger_> anyway, onto the important issue, what comics is Burcu reading?
44:00 <ishmael> lol
44:00 <ishmael> she didn't tell me!!
44:00 <Tigger_> you didn't ask
44:00 <ishmael> he conversation moved on too fast
44:00 <ishmael> i did!!
44:00 <Tigger_> paste the bit where she talks about comics
46:00 <ishmael> [2:01:56 AM] heli copt: Hey you asked me a while back which comic books I liked
46:00 <ishmael> [2:02:03 AM] heli copt: Are you reading some comics ?
46:00 <ishmael> [2:02:40 AM] Damian Cullen: nah sady
46:00 <ishmael> [2:02:50 AM] Damian Cullen: one of the dudes i was talking to online is heavily into comics
46:00 <ishmael> [2:03:15 AM] Damian Cullen: and I mentioned that someone i know is into comics
46:00 <ishmael> [2:03:46 AM] heli copt: Ive actually been getting back into em
46:00 <ishmael> [2:03:56 AM] Damian Cullen: nice
46:00 <ishmael> [2:04:00 AM] heli copt: Ive gotta get my graphic novel back from jesse
46:00 <ishmael> turns out i didnt ask
46:00 <ishmael> oops
47:00 <ishmael> anyway
47:00 <ishmael> I'm back in touch with he
47:00 <ishmael> her
47:00 <ishmael> so i will find out next tme
47:00 <Tigger_> hours of blather about you getting violent, and you never asked the most important question
47:00 <ishmael> lolol
47:00 <ishmael> sorry!
48:00 <ishmael> she read a lot
48:00 <ishmael> reads*
48:00 <Tigger_> contact her again right now
48:00 <ishmael> she's not there!
48:00 <ishmael> well maybe she is
48:00 <ishmael> we said our goodbyes
48:00 <ishmael> but i think she was goingg to havea s howeer
48:00 <ishmael> ohhnah
48:00 <ishmael> she's not online
49:00 <ishmael> her sleeping is as messed as ours
49:00 <ishmael> i would get her to come on here
49:00 <ishmael> but i think you guys know too much about her
49:00 <ishmael> and her family
49:00 <ishmael> and that will upset her and freak her out
49:00 <ishmael> and she will never trust me again
49:00 <Tigger_> it would be weird if she became an escort just to buy comics
49:00 <ishmael> hahaha
49:00 <ishmael> that is kind of something she would do
49:00 <ishmael> lol
50:00 <ishmael> not anymore though
50:00 <ishmael> definitely not
50:00 <Tigger_> she repented?
50:00 <ishmael> we had a talk about having sex with people that we don't like
50:00 <ishmael> idk maybe
51:00 <ishmael> a lot of her psychosis is od related now
51:00 <ishmael> god
51:00 <ishmael> i told her about it being the devil in disguise
51:00 <Tigger_> I'd like to see photos of her comics
51:00 <ishmael> okay?
51:00 <Tigger_> does she store them in boxes or bookcases?
51:00 <ishmael> both
52:00 <Tigger_> so she's got quite a lot
52:00 <ishmael> except she had been messy sometimes and then very sad when she finds one sightly damaged on the floor
52:00 <Tigger_> yeah, that would fill me with self loathing
52:00 <ishmael> yeah man
52:00 <ishmael> her and her brother had stupid amounts
53:00 <Tigger_> is this the brother you got into a fight with?
53:00 <ishmael> she's currently building a huge totoro statue with her mate
53:00 <ishmael> lol
53:00 <ishmael> yeah, him
54:00 <Tigger_> so she's more into manga
54:00 <ishmael> no, not really
54:00 <ishmael> the dude she's doing that with
54:00 <ishmael> is fully into manga
54:00 <Tigger_> oh that's good to hear
54:00 <ishmael> lol
54:00 <Tigger_> not good
54:00 <ishmael> he's chinese
54:00 <ishmael> yeah
56:00 <ishmael> he has all this weird manga porn
56:00 <ishmael> well idk if u can call it porn
56:00 <Tigger_> though often when a girl is into comics, it's manga, since they have a lot of girls comics in Japan
56:00 <ishmael> it's cartoons
56:00 <Tigger_> hentai
56:00 <ishmael> yeah that stuff
56:00 <ishmael> with schoolgirls
56:00 <ishmael> and trannies
56:00 <Tigger_> guys into tentacle rape and stuff
56:00 <ishmael> and rape
56:00 <ishmael> yes
56:00 <ishmael> it has all of that
56:00 <Tigger_> oh yeah, the japs are wild about trannies
56:00 <ishmael> but then has that weird black line
56:00 <ishmael> on the nipples etc
56:00 <Tigger_> yes, Jap censorship
56:00 <ishmael> and on the tip of the penis
57:00 <ishmael> ahahaha
57:00 <ishmael> like just the tip
57:00 <Tigger_> to show they're making the effort
57:00 <ishmael> it is so :S
57:00 <ishmael> lol
57:00 <ishmael> you see this throbbing veiny cock
57:00 <ishmael> and just the peehole is censored
57:00 <ishmael> like?
58:00 <Tigger_> that way you won't be corrupted
58:00 <ishmael> yeah!? :S
59:00 <ishmael> to mee it looks like oppression brings out the wildest fetishes
59:00 <Tigger_> I wondered if Japs are into trannies from being more aspie, a lot of aspies seem to want to get sex changes
59:00 <ishmael> wow, I never knew
59:00 <ishmael> so
59:00 <ishmael> most aspies are male
59:00 <ishmael> but want to be female?
59:00 <Tigger_> it's amazing how many game programmers got sex changes
59:00 <ishmael> is that why you have longish hair?
59:00 <Tigger_> yes, similar to how the butch army men who go and get sex changes
59:00 <Tigger_> no
59:00 <ishmael> lolol
00:00 <ishmael> I'm just messin' with you
00:00 <ishmael> :P
00:00 <ishmael> yeah
00:00 <Tigger_> the extreme maleness of jocks and aspies seems to often result in them wanting to become women
00:00 <ishmael> those butch army men
00:00 <ishmael> yeah, well anyone who goes to such lengths to be so butch is obviously hiding something
00:00 <Tigger_> can't say I've ever had that urge myself
00:00 <ishmael> like those lebs
00:00 <ishmael> lol
00:00 <Tigger_> well I don't think lebs have extreme male brains, they're always coming across as femme
01:00 <ishmael> ohh
01:00 <ishmael> you see it differently to what i've seen
01:00 <ishmael> i always see them trying to act all touch cunty
01:00 <ishmael> tough*
01:00 <ishmael> can see straight through it
01:00 <ishmael> lol
01:00 <ishmael> dicks
01:00 <ishmael> they just need a hug
02:00 <ishmael> lol
02:00 <ishmael> and dick
02:00 <Tigger_> they go gay though, not want to become women
02:00 <Tigger_> I think there's a difference
02:00 <ishmael> perf for ishmael
03:00 <ishmael> I told bj I want to be an arab
03:00 <ishmael> she was shocked
03:00 <ishmael> in this climate?
03:00 <ishmael> lol
03:00 <ishmael> I told her about isis
03:00 <ishmael> and the quaran
03:00 <Tigger_> does she consider herself to be a muslim?
04:00 <ishmael> Tigger_ put on some sweet awesome music
04:00 <ishmael> I am feeling so nice playing boys noie shine shine
04:00 <ishmael> idk if you'll like it
04:00 <ishmael> but blast something you do like
04:00 <ishmael> no
04:00 <ishmael> her parents are, though
04:00 <ishmael> she says the quaran isn't as strict as everyone believes
04:00 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4GeeqwpbmQ
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05:00 <ishmael> and you don't actually have to wear the kebab
05:00 <ishmael> burqa*
05:00 <Tigger_> lol, wear the kebab
05:00 <ishmael> fuck
05:00 <ishmael> lol
06:00 <ishmael> but pork is a 100% no no
06:00 <Tigger_> she's very wild, I'd never be able to deal with that
06:00 <ishmael> wild?
07:00 <Tigger_> yes
07:00 <ishmael> she has been very isolated lately
07:00 <ishmael> like me
07:00 <Tigger_> how come?
08:00 <ishmael> she hasn't been well
08:00 <ishmael> she felt much better after talking to me
08:00 <ishmael> we shared a common experience
08:00 <ishmael> do you watch ray donovan?
09:00 <Tigger_> not heard of him
09:00 <ishmael> I'm downloading that track you mentioned
09:00 <ishmael> but it's going slow since downloading ray donovan
09:00 <ishmael> lol
09:00 <ishmael> and the living dead
09:00 <ishmael> :P
10:00 <Tigger_> who is Ray Donovan?
10:00 <ishmael> I'm not sure
10:00 <ishmael> TDT
10:00 <ishmael> indulge us
10:00 <ishmael> thedarktruth....
10:00 <ishmael> dude
11:00 <ishmael> (he recommended it to me)
11:00 <TheDarkTruth> oh..sorry about it.. I was afk.. 
11:00 <TheDarkTruth> hmm
11:00 <Tigger_>  Ray Donovan, a professional "fixer" for the rich and famous in LA, can make anyone's problems disappear except those created by his own family.
11:00 <TheDarkTruth> Ray Donovan.. 
11:00 <ishmael> tigger_ I assumed you watched everything worthwhile under te sun
11:00 <ishmael> lol
11:00 <TheDarkTruth> there you go.. 
11:00 <TheDarkTruth> that saved me a good 2 minutes typing.. 
11:00 <ishmael> ha
11:00 <Tigger_> no, I download them, but often don't watch them, even if I have the best of intentions
12:00 <ishmael> so like me
12:00 <ishmael> lol
12:00 <ishmael> all my drives are full
12:00 <ishmael> will be excellent when I don't have a net connection
12:00 <ishmael> or those long fucked flights i will be going on
12:00 <Tigger_> it all must be archived for future referenced
12:00 <ishmael> hahaha
12:00 <ishmael> yes
13:00 <ishmael> I have bought 3 batteries for the plane
13:00 <ishmael> will buy an adapter too
13:00 <ishmael> they have wifi in flight now
13:00 <ishmael> which is nice
13:00 <ishmael> but it's soo bloody slow
13:00 <ishmael> will be fast enough for irc, though
14:00 <Tigger_> that's the main thing
14:00 <ishmael> haha
14:00 <Tigger_> so why is Burku isolated?  no more friends?
14:00 <ishmael> I will let you know how crazy I get cooped up on the flight
14:00 <ishmael> mayhbe if the connection is fast enough will give you a live vid feed
14:00 <ishmael> lol
15:00 <ishmael> look, who knows exactly how these things happen
15:00 <Tigger_> it would be better if planes had rows of bunk beds instead of chairs
15:00 <ishmael> for me it happened slowly over time
15:00 <ishmael> and before i knew it i was alone
15:00 <ishmael> I haven't had the luxury of flying in business or first
16:00 <ishmael> it sucks because when you go into the plane you have to walk through business or first
16:00 <ishmael> and you see all the beds
16:00 <ishmael> lol
16:00 <Tigger_> they deliberately do that
16:00 <ishmael> yeah probably
16:00 <Tigger_> to make you feel like a loser and failure in life
16:00 <ishmael> and then mid flight while everyone is sleeping
16:00 <ishmael> and i can't sleep
16:00 <ishmael> i go into first and steal all the food
16:00 <Tigger_> did you do that?
16:00 <ishmael> yeah
16:00 <ishmael> all the tiem
17:00 <ishmael> i take the headphones too
17:00 <Tigger_> that could be construed as a terrorist incident
17:00 <ishmael> they get better headphones in first
17:00 <ishmael> nahhh
17:00 <ishmael> everyone is sleeping
17:00 <ishmael> and the flight attendants seem to not care
17:00 <ishmael> lol
17:00 <Tigger_> it must be harrowing for you with your height in a cramped economy seat
17:00 <ishmael> it is totally fucked
17:00 <ishmael> actually
17:00 <ishmael> I will notify dad of this
18:00 <ishmael> surele he can get me a business ticket
18:00 <ishmael> he has membership for every airline
18:00 <ishmael> him and mum only fly business or first
18:00 <ishmael> once mum got a taste of business she refused to go back
18:00 <ishmael> lol
18:00 <Tigger_> understandable
19:00 <Tigger_> does Burku have a job or anything?
19:00 <ishmael> when dads paying for all of us to go over at once including my brothers gfs i can understand why he plops us in economy
19:00 <ishmael> nah
20:00 <ishmael> she's on dsp
20:00 <Tigger_> for BPD I assume?
20:00 <ishmael> no
20:00 <ishmael> she doesnt have bpd
20:00 <ishmael> that's her brother
20:00 <ishmael> he's on dsp too
20:00 <ishmael> drives me mad you can get dsp for being a moody bitch
20:00 <Tigger_> what does she have?
21:00 <ishmael> something
21:00 <ishmael> lol
22:00 <ishmael> and it's not burku
22:00 <ishmael> burcu is pronounce bourjuh
23:00 <ishmael> jooh*
23:00 <Tigger_> has she ever had a legit job?
24:00 <ishmael> yeah, a bit
24:00 <ishmael> she worked for her stepdads company printmode
24:00 <ishmael> she rarely went, though
24:00 <Tigger_> that's the one that went under because the relatives were snorting drugs?
24:00 <ishmael> we were off scoffing down pinga and partying instead
24:00 <ishmael> lol
24:00 <ishmael> yes
24:00 <ishmael> not relatives
24:00 <ishmael> immediate family
25:00 <Tigger_> ah yeah
25:00 <Tigger_> big tragedy
25:00 <ishmael> lol
25:00 <Tigger_> lost that nice beachside house
25:00 <ishmael> they have a new business already
25:00 <ishmael> two
25:00 <ishmael> beachside houeses
25:00 <ishmael> yeah that sucks
25:00 <ishmael> we had to move to commission
25:00 <ishmael> luxury to pov ville
25:00 <ishmael> they had a yacht too
25:00 <Tigger_> that would feel bad
26:00 <ishmael> i doubt they still do
26:00 <Tigger_> were they gambling too or something? 
26:00 <ishmael> no
26:00 <ishmael> i doubt it
26:00 <ishmael> i never heard of gambling
26:00 <Tigger_> just hard to imagine spending so much on drugs
26:00 <ishmael> just drugs an alcoholism
26:00 <ishmael> cocaine isn't cheap in australia
26:00 <ishmael> it wasn't just that, though
27:00 <ishmael> some of the clients weren;t paying their accounts
27:00 <ishmael> in the hundreds of thousands
27:00 <ishmael> it's very common
27:00 <ishmael> they must've had insurance though
27:00 <ishmael> idk exactly how it all turned to shit
27:00 <Tigger_> yeah, big clients pay at the last minute, on the third and final notice
27:00 <ishmael> I just heard it was from drugs
27:00 <ishmael> read on the news that it was the clients
27:00 <ishmael> lol
28:00 <Tigger_> so where is she living now?  still in public housing?
28:00 <ishmael> yeah
28:00 <ishmael> literally freshly built unit
29:00 <ishmael> it's nice and clean
29:00 <ishmael> but very plain
29:00 <ishmael> so strange they always put cable and foxtel connections in the units
29:00 <ishmael> lol
29:00 <Tigger_> I'd rather live in a hovel on a good street, than a mansion surrounded by scum and sudanese
29:00 <ishmael> ahh
29:00 <ishmael> the area is actually super upmarket
30:00 <ishmael> and then you get the commission estate
30:00 <ishmael> plopped in the middle
30:00 <ishmael> the locals are outraged im sure
30:00 <ishmael> lol
30:00 <Tigger_> yeah, they are trying to move Labor voters into Liberal safe seats, to make them marginal
30:00 <ishmael> they want to sell it off to private investors
30:00 <ishmael> the houses all around it are in the mils
31:00 <ishmael> i don't think a single property in the area would be less than a mil
31:00 <Tigger_> is she far from the beach?
31:00 <ishmael> 5 min tram ride
31:00 <Tigger_> that's alright
32:00 <ishmael> playing that track now
33:00 <ishmael> you really like the tracks that take a while to build
33:00 <ishmael> dont ya
33:00 <Tigger_> very
33:00 <ishmael> well
33:00 <ishmael> as each piece comes in
33:00 <ishmael> it does feel very nice
34:00 <ishmael> ohh yesss
34:00 <ishmael> here it is :)
34:00 <ishmael> so subtle the pitch changes
34:00 <ishmael> mmm :) bliss
35:00 <Tigger_> how did Burjou buy her comics?  comic shops or online?
35:00 <ishmael> argh i have come to the realisation I am actually now hopelessly addicted to the fags
36:00 <ishmael> not sure
36:00 <ishmael> i will find out
36:00 <Tigger_> lol, you mean cigarettes, right?
36:00 <ishmael> yes
36:00 <ishmael> i don't believe i was this far in before
36:00 <ishmael> i could stop easily
36:00 <ishmael> now i am here wishing for a never ending cigy
37:00 <Tigger_> do you resent the control they have over you?
37:00 <ishmael> YES
37:00 <ishmael> I never did until lately
38:00 <ishmael> I fuckin hate being conrolled
38:00 <ishmael> it is a pet peeve of mine
38:00 <ishmael> I'm going to get a nicorette spray soon
39:00 <Tigger_> how long have you been smoking them for?
39:00 <ishmael> since i was 15
39:00 <ishmael> not loads then though
39:00 <Tigger_> you'd have to be addicted after 10 years
39:00 <ishmael> 16 was when i really started getting into it more
39:00 <ishmael> and by 17 i was smoking every day
40:00 <ishmael> then i quit for a while
40:00 <ishmael> but as soon as school was over was back into it
40:00 <ishmael> goes with clubbing etc
40:00 <ishmael> i remember clubbing in highschool
40:00 <ishmael> felt like the coolest cunt
40:00 <ishmael> going in underage
40:00 <ishmael> lol
40:00 <ishmael> such a lame asss
41:00 <Tigger_> there was a nightclub in that town?
41:00 <ishmael> no
41:00 <ishmael> I would go to shepparton
41:00 <ishmael> we had 3 pubs in the town though
41:00 <ishmael> lol
41:00 <ishmael> top pub
41:00 <ishmael> middle pub
41:00 <ishmael> and bottom pub
42:00 <ishmael> pretty standard in small towns apparently
42:00 <Tigger_> I don't know, I've never really been into a pub I think
42:00 <ishmael> there  are all sorts of pubs
43:00 <ishmael> with different types of people
43:00 <ishmael> some with topless bar girls
43:00 <ishmael> lol
43:00 <Tigger_> yeah I've heard about them
44:00 <ishmael> not interested?
44:00 <Tigger_> the riffraff go to the topless pubs?
44:00 <ishmael> ahhh yeah
44:00 <ishmael> it's really a mix
45:00 <ishmael> TheDarkTruth, how are you trekking?
45:00 <Tigger_> it'd be a bad place to be if the Rapture suddenly happened at that time
45:00 <ishmael> LOL
45:00 <ishmael> luckily for you and I that ain't going to happen
46:00 <ishmael> besides? can't you repent on the spot and accept god in?
46:00 <ishmael> and the ascend
46:00 <ishmael> lol
46:00 <Tigger_> I don't know, it might happen too fast
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