// #marryatvillehs — 2006-06-25
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03:33:45 <aSH^> damn
03:33:50 <aSH^> 4:30 for mexico/argentina
03:33:57 <aSH^> that'll fuck my sleeping up nicely
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05:37:02 <Talesin> watching this game ash?
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17:07:09 <JarZ> eya dylan, what's up?
17:07:35 <Dylan2> ey
17:08:06 <Dylan2> not much, just woke up then
17:08:48 <JarZ> haha nice work
17:08:53 <JarZ> how was your birthday drinks?
17:09:02 <Dylan2> yeah pretty good
17:09:36 <JarZ> get up to any crazy shenanigans?
17:12:11 <Dylan2> nothing crazy
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17:12:41 <Dylan2> ey ash
17:13:29 <aSH^> hey
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18:04:23 <Carson> aye all
18:04:50 <JarZ> ey sup?
18:05:21 <Carson> sfa
18:05:25 <Carson> i can eat again!
18:05:33 <JarZ> haha owned
18:05:42 <JarZ> how'd you manage with that yiros on friday?
18:05:45 <Carson> still more difficult than it was a week ago, but i can do it now :)
18:05:51 <Carson> haha, i had like 3 peices of meat in it
18:05:57 <Carson> its still in the fridge... might give it to the dog
18:06:15 <JarZ> haha
18:06:25 <JarZ> yeah probably isn't fit for human consumption anymore ;P
18:06:30 <Carson> yeah :(
18:06:36 <Carson> doing anything tonight?
18:06:42 <JarZ> no plans yet
18:06:45 <JarZ> i'm bored as fuck though
18:06:49 <Carson> we should goto matchroom, figure out when the next season starts
18:09:25 <JarZ> meh i cbf going to the matchroom
18:09:42 <Carson> well, i'm open to suggestions
18:09:56 <Carson> working tomorrow morning?
18:09:57 <JarZ> arcade game playing down at marion! :P
18:10:01 <JarZ> yes, of course
18:10:26 <Carson> don't really feel like paying lots of money for games that i suck at
18:10:39 <JarZ> sif lots of money
18:11:02 <Carson> tis for me, as they're gonna be short games
18:11:11 <JarZ> also... what's like $10 for an hour or two of games anyway? you put over a hundy into a pokie the other night :P
18:11:32 <Carson> yeah, thats gambling though, its different :)
18:11:37 <Carson> i could have won alot
18:11:54 <damian> lol
18:12:02 <damian> $10 you *know* you've lost
18:12:03 <damian> vs
18:12:09 <damian> $100 you will probably lose
18:12:12 <Carson> i've also never really been a fan of just going to an arcade and playing
18:12:14 <damian> i'd go the $10 for a bit of fun :P
18:12:26 <JarZ> yeah probably 'cos you've never really done it :P
18:12:27 <damian> but there's so much fun to be had!
18:12:28 <JarZ> it's fun :(
18:12:42 <Carson> i only like table/air hockey :)
18:12:43 <damian> there's a classic bomberman arcade machine in the arcade place down the road
18:12:48 <damian> fjear my second highscore on it!
18:12:51 <Carson> i'm gonna buy a real one when i move out
18:12:52 <JarZ> come down to marion
18:12:55 <Carson> (at somestage)
18:12:57 <JarZ> and
18:13:00 <JarZ> play air hockey
18:13:04 <Carson> too far
18:13:05 <Carson> :D
18:13:09 <JarZ> sif
18:14:02 <Carson> wish movies weren't such a ripoff :(
18:15:08 <JarZ> arcade games! :|
18:15:15 <JarZ> you'd so enjoy it once down there :P
18:16:50 <Carson> *counts the money in my change tin*
18:17:21 <JarZ> i'll shout you a game of air hockey
18:17:25 <JarZ> lol
18:17:56 <Carson> but i'll have to watch you play games for ages and being bored
18:18:00 <JarZ> lies
18:18:31 <Carson> no lies, and you know it
18:18:39 <JarZ> :(
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18:32:45 <Carson> $138.25 in change :D
18:33:08 <Taliesin> hey
18:33:11 <Taliesin> just got up lol
18:33:21 <JarZ> LOL
18:33:23 <JarZ> nice work carson
18:33:30 <JarZ> i probably have close to that amount too :D
18:33:31 <damian> any of you happen to know someone with a dead ps2/slimline that wants to sell their power cable? :/
18:34:05 <JarZ> as if you can't find a powercable on ebay
18:34:52 <damian> i thought there'd be loads of cheap ones on there, but there aren't
18:35:07 <damian> cheapest is ~$25 for a non-sony one, which is what you pay for a new one anywho
18:35:11 <Carson> head to your local 2nd hand game store
18:35:16 <JarZ> keep looking?
18:35:29 <damian> keep looking? lol
18:35:55 <JarZ> as in
18:35:59 <JarZ> in a couple of days time and stuff
18:36:04 <JarZ> when more people have listed more things
18:36:42 <damian> yeah, but i want one nowowww :P
18:36:45 <damian> well, soon
18:36:48 <Carson> head to your local 2nd hand game store
18:36:51 <damian> i have a ps2 downstairs with no power cable
18:36:58 <JarZ> sif $25 is that bad anyway
18:37:14 <damian> i've never seen a second hand game store that isn't a big business like EB or anything around here :P
18:37:23 <Carson> :(
18:37:25 <damian> yuh, but i'd rather an authentic sony one
18:37:40 <damian> and be quietw ith your 'why's and 'your stupid's :P
18:37:51 <Carson> did you break your power cable?
18:37:54 <Carson> or lose it somehow?
18:38:21 <JarZ> so
18:38:24 <JarZ> anyone want to do something?
18:38:57 <damian> my mate bought it from someone and the power was dead, he's oto much of a pansy to ask for a refund .. so he sold it to me cheap :P
18:39:01 <damian> just have to buy a lead for it
18:39:36 <Carson> ...just buy one :D
18:39:37 <Carson> or make one
18:39:44 <Carson> (i'm not sure how complex they are)
18:40:17 <damian> naw, it's the actual box thing that's knackered
18:40:32 <damian> if i knew anyhting about electronics i'd pull it apart and see if anything's wrong :P
18:41:05 <Carson> open and tinker anyway
18:41:14 <damian> true, true!
18:41:16 <Carson> you can usually see if something is fucked
18:41:17 <damian> got nothing to lose!
18:41:20 <Carson> eg, it'll be black = burnt
18:41:29 <Carson> and then you get a replacement for that part
18:41:31 <Taliesin> i had one of the old ps2's power things die on me, was going to cost more than a new ps2 to replce
18:41:37 <Taliesin> now ive got a slimline
18:41:50 <Carson> or it could be a shoddy connection, and you'll just have to re-solder it
18:41:58 <Carson> thats what happened with my snes powerpack
18:42:31 <Taliesin> at least with slimlines the power is external now, so hopefully it means it would be cheaper to replace if it failed
18:43:19 <damian> wow, they're done up pretty good. i can't even find a way in :P
18:43:26 <Carson> its under the sticker
18:43:32 <Carson> (the screw that is)
18:43:37 <damian> that's what i thought .. but i can't even feel it
18:43:42 <damian> unless the sticker is plastic
18:43:43 <Carson> usually only one, and then clips hold the rest :D
18:43:56 <Carson> could be a thick plastic thingo that you need to peel off
18:44:39 <damian> lol, nope
18:44:46 <damian> it's just thin .. and nothing under it
18:44:58 <Carson> i'm gonna call bigpond tomorrow, see if they'll up my allowed usage for no cost
18:45:15 <JarZ> LOL
18:45:19 <Carson> "hi, i'm going to leave bigpond, unless you can offer me something to stay"
18:45:33 <Carson> i've heard its worked before :D
18:45:56 <damian> lol
18:46:07 <Carson> *checks out their current plans anyway*
18:47:42 <JarZ> hahaha
18:47:51 <stefan> hmm, what country is +65 ?
18:47:58 <stefan> somewhere in asia?
18:48:02 <JarZ> google
18:48:18 <stefan> yeah, just closed opera :\
18:48:26 <JarZ> sif close opera, ever
18:48:29 <Carson> if you asked me that question at work, i could have the answer in no time
18:48:32 <stefan> yeah, about to reboot :P
18:48:34 <Carson> but its not in my bookmarks
18:48:50 <Carson> also, if i was uncapped, i'd be able to find out quick++
18:48:56 <JarZ> /google list of country telephone codes
18:49:14 <JarZ> first result. loading for me :P
18:49:39 <stefan> .sg
18:49:46 <stefan> forgot I had firefox too :)
18:49:48 <JarZ> hahaha
18:50:56 <Carson> http://my.bigpond.com/internetplans/broadband/cable/plans/
18:50:57 <Carson> so bad...
18:51:16 <JarZ> needs more adsl2
18:51:17 <stefan> you know node has a 'premium' nntp server now? :)
18:51:44 <stefan> must suck even more with your own nntp fees in there too
18:52:16 <Carson> $10USD a month isn't too bad
18:52:28 <Carson> and for the record, i will change :)
18:52:31 <stefan> ah, ok, pretty good
18:52:35 <stefan> unlimited though?
18:52:45 <stefan> thought most were limited to a megabit or so for that speed
18:52:53 <Carson> that gets me 20gig... which is enough, when i get capped after 10 :D
18:53:02 <stefan> ah
18:53:14 <Carson> it also rolls over
18:53:19 <Carson> so i've got about 160gig saved up
18:53:28 <stefan> haha, nice
18:53:32 <Carson> when i do end up moving out, i'll move to adsl2 for sure
18:53:35 <Carson> probably with node
18:53:57 <Carson> i just don't wanna change here, then move it to my new place
18:54:14 <JarZ> sif you'll move out any time soon though
18:54:32 <Carson> as soon as i pay off my debt, i'm basically ready to move out
18:54:33 <stefan> yeah, and you won't get fantastic speeds there either, although with that quota it'd still be much better
18:54:44 <Carson> i think there's only 5 grand left on it
18:54:50 <Carson> fantastic speeds?
18:54:55 <Carson> i max my connection here all the time
18:55:00 <stefan> I mean on dsl2
18:55:02 <stefan> too far from the exchange
18:55:10 <Carson> yeah, good point
18:55:28 <stefan> but still, quota is more important than speed
18:55:33 <Carson> thats true
18:55:44 <stefan> especially when you're talking 5+ megabits
18:55:48 <damian> depends what the speed is :P
18:55:59 <Carson> 1.5mbit is better than being capped for 25+ days of each month
18:56:02 <Taliesin> stefan; where did you find out that information regarding the 3 year product warranty for linksys?
18:56:17 <Carson> and thats like absolute worse case
18:56:18 <stefan> one of our distributors
18:56:30 <stefan> should be on their au site, www.linksys.com.au
18:56:52 <Taliesin> cool, need to do something about my modem soon
18:57:09 <stefan> yeah, really have to go through node I think though
18:57:12 <stefan> brb, reboot
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18:57:40 <Carson> wow, i'm surprized he doesn't use a proxy for irc
18:57:45 <Carson> (so it never disconnects)
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19:03:00 <JarZ> sif reboot
19:03:02 <JarZ> Uptime on Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 4 (5.0 - 2195) - 6wks 5hrs 51mins 54secs
19:03:02 <JarZ> lol
19:04:39 <damian> uptime[1wk 2days 20hrs 30mins 53secs] great[1wk 5days 10hrs 9secs]
19:04:41 <damian> :(
19:04:53 * Active timers:
19:04:53 * Timer chan 3600s delay update-chan (AustNet)
19:04:53 * Timer server 3600s delay update-server (AustNet)
19:04:53 * Timer uptime 3600s delay update-uptime (AustNet)
19:04:53 * Timer mp3 1s delay mp3-check (HostCore)
19:05:12 <Carson> aye stef, why don't you use an irc proxy/bounce?
19:05:13 <JarZ> Penistime: (_(_)==================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================D~ (6wks 5hrs 54mins)
19:05:15 <JarZ> :D
19:05:16 <stefan> installing an ip/traffic accounting software, it needed it :\
19:05:21 <Carson> lol, penis time
19:05:23 <stefan> why would I Carson?
19:05:47 <Carson> because you've got access to a box thats on 24/7 and rarely reboots...
19:06:20 <Carson> and then you can attach from anywhere... (that wouldn't help you that much though)
19:06:24 <stefan> [18:36:23] <chromestorm> Tcl: 7:06PM up 207 days, 17:25, 0 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.28, 0.32
19:06:27 <stefan> yup :)
19:06:39 <Carson> 18:36:45 up 41 days, 1:33, 4 users, load average: 1.29, 1.26, 1.28
19:06:41 <Carson> :(
19:06:48 <damian> you can do better than that carson!
19:06:51 <stefan> heh
19:06:55 <Carson> i also figured out why it crashed that time
19:07:00 <damian> 19:07:10 up 5 days, 17:37, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
19:07:01 <damian> bahah
19:07:07 <damian> i put ram in mine
19:07:14 <Carson> i had a script that connected to a website every minute...
19:07:27 <Carson> that script stopped working... and kept running a new one every minute :(
19:07:35 <stefan> I would set up a proper proxy thing like you've got if it had support for the clients properly, but other than that, I'd just load another client or rdp if I got desperate
19:07:40 <stefan> hah
19:07:46 <Carson> i got sms notification for if it happens again though
19:07:51 <Carson> i also fixed the bug
19:08:19 <Carson> http://unrelated.net.au/monitoring.php
19:08:43 <Carson> if any of those go over TH or fuck up, it prints ERROR, and my script checks for that and sms' me if there are any
19:09:26 <stefan> wtf
19:09:28 <stefan> The packet must be
19:09:31 <stefan> - counted by previous filters
19:09:35 <stefan> - not counted by previous filters
19:09:39 <stefan> - none of the above
19:09:39 <damian> hmm, is there a way to see how much memory an application is using exactly?
19:10:05 <Carson> linux?
19:10:29 <Carson> top is helpful :)
19:10:45 <damian> yeah, only gives % tho
19:10:52 <Carson> *checks*
19:11:06 <damian> or is VIRT
19:11:08 <Carson> *installs memstat*
19:11:33 <Carson> yeah, get memstat
19:11:36 <Carson> prints it exactly :)
19:11:57 <damian> ta
19:12:07 <damian> stupid Ubuntu, it odesn't list all packages available at all
19:12:16 <damian> apt-cache search doesnt' list
19:12:32 <damian> i put 'xx ubuntu package' into google and it comes up with the package on the site that i've listed in my sources
19:12:38 <Carson> thats from universe... make sure its in your sources
19:12:51 <damian> yeah, i have five different sources
19:13:03 <Carson> then 'apt-get install memstat'
19:13:16 <damian> cdrom, packages.ubuntulinux.org and then three of the others
19:13:21 <damian> us.* au.* and another
19:13:31 <damian> yuh, doesn't do anything :P
19:13:34 <damian> have to manually odwnlad
19:13:40 <Carson> ... weirdness
19:13:45 <damian> yuh, very
19:14:26 <damian> i mean, it only means i have to google + copy/paste + wget + dpkg
19:14:31 <damian> which is still an easy installation, but still :P
19:14:39 <damian> ooer, ta
19:14:55 <damian> meh
19:14:55 <Carson> np
19:15:07 <damian> -
19:15:08 <damian> Mem: 175708k total, 168772k used, 6936k free, 90728k buffers
19:15:08 <damian> -
19:15:14 <damian> 160mb/170mb used
19:15:26 <damian> and memstat comes up with
19:15:26 <damian> --------
19:15:26 <damian> 68836k
19:16:41 <aSH^> can't you just use ps?
19:17:04 <Carson> % only
19:17:15 <aSH^> check the man page
19:17:35 <Carson> smartass
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19:18:27 <aSH^> i dunno cos i don't have a linux box, but it would be surprising if ps didn't show process size
19:18:38 <Carson> true
19:18:49 <damian> too much reading on manpages :P
19:18:57 <aSH^> man ps
19:19:01 <aSH^> /mem
19:19:04 <aSH^> <enter>
19:19:11 <aSH^> then keep hitting n
19:21:34 <damian> rss
19:21:54 <damian> ps -eo rss,cmd
19:22:02 <damian> shows exactly what memstat does
19:22:06 <damian> but faster :P
19:22:20 <damian> tho memstat shows heaps more processes
19:22:31 <aSH^> yah and ps is just reading /proc
19:45:02 <stefan> gah, fucking useless windows
19:45:18 <stefan> "Operation can not be executed because an error occured during connection to the driver."
19:45:30 <stefan> can't find what driver, let alone what error
19:57:59 <Carson> true
20:01:09 <Carson> stef, i can't remember your computer setup at your place... but have you heard of a program called synergy?
20:01:45 <stefan> hmm, no
20:01:55 <stefan> but I do have a kvm
20:01:57 <Carson> http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
20:02:23 <Carson> yeah, but if you're actively using them at the same time, its a bit of a pain in the ass to switch constantly
20:02:35 <stefan> ah, only the two lcds
20:03:06 <stefan> I don't use the kvm that much, it's pretty much always set as the secondary for this machine
20:03:33 <Carson> i rarely used my other machines, but since getting this program, i've been using them more
20:03:50 <Carson> its nice having a box dedicated to each kind thing you're doing
20:03:52 <stefan> yeah, well the dell gpu can hardly handle the res, and I just use securecrt for all my ssh
20:03:55 <Carson> dev/chat/games/music/browsing
20:04:14 <stefan> I usually have at least a dozen different ssh windows open to different machines, handy having them in securecrt's tabs
20:05:06 <stefan> don't know if it was running when I did the uptime, but I had about 8 logged in to webau1 before
20:05:23 <stefan> bit too many to get too easily with individual terminals
20:06:32 <Carson> yeah :)
20:07:09 <stefan> this is shitting me, found a nice ip/traffic accounting package for windows, but I really need it to calculate by PID too
20:07:11 <damian> hah, that's neat
20:07:12 <stefan> can't find anything yet
20:08:06 <stefan> hmm, I guess I could assign myself another local ip and bind it to that, but that's a pain
20:11:48 Quit: stefan ([email protected]) Read error to stefan: Connection reset by peer
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20:15:58 <stefan> hmm, mIRC likes crashing when network does funky stuff now
20:39:25 <damian> how do you actually view other screens with synergy, carson? :|
20:39:36 <Carson> its not a KVM
20:39:42 <Carson> its a KM
20:39:54 <Carson> eg, i have 5 computers, all controlled by one keyboard and mouse
20:39:58 <Carson> i still have 5 monitors
20:40:06 <damian> ahh, so your monitor still views on the other one
20:40:13 <Carson> i just move my mouse to the edge of the screen and it flips over to the next monitor
20:40:46 <Carson> every vnc'd into a machine next to you when it has a monitor on it aswell?
20:41:05 <Carson> and you're using the normal kb/mouse, and watching it move on the other monitor... its like that, but only that
20:41:18 <damian> yeah
20:41:26 <Carson> if you have the monitor, its perfect, if you don't though, might aswell use a kvm, or remotedesktop, or whatever
20:41:38 <damian> yeah
20:42:27 <damian> what does it do when you try and drag/drop on different machines? :P
20:42:29 <damian> just cuts off
20:43:23 <Carson> if the mouse button is down, it wont switch to the next monitor
20:43:27 <Carson> but clipboard sharing works
20:43:42 <Carson> not sure if it has file support yet...
20:43:43 <Carson> *tests*
20:44:36 <Carson> files don't work...
20:46:09 <Carson> nor do images
20:46:15 <Carson> looks to be just files for the time being
20:46:22 <Carson> tis a bit hard to get that working though
20:46:34 <Carson> copying from windows -> linux|mac
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20:49:19 <Carson> if only i was allowed to use it at work :(
20:49:47 <damian> naw
20:50:04 <damian> files wouldn't be too hard to do, provided the program itself had a 'desktop' you could drop to
20:50:12 <damian> then it would be a generic drop, and the dragging is the os
20:50:41 <Carson> i guess files wouldn't be... almost the same way as clipboard
20:50:47 <damian> yuh
20:50:52 <Carson> just dump the ascii/hex/binary/whatever
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22:00:18 <Carson> aye
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