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01:02:28 <The_Apostle> anyone know who won the soccer?
01:36:21 <Simulacrum> The team with the most goals won, I believe
01:38:02 <damian> yeah, i heard that on the news
01:38:28 <Simulacrum> I was quite surprised
01:40:12 <damian> yuh, there'll definately be talk about it tomorrow
01:42:04 <Simulacrum> Or today
01:42:05 <Simulacrum> as we
01:42:09 <Simulacrum> ve been talking about them
01:45:47 <damian> indeed
01:45:48 <damian> bored
01:45:52 <damian> need to finish this assignment
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05:08:04 <ash^> http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1204
05:08:05 <ash^> haha
05:44:45 <Taliesin> hey
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10:07:59 <Taliesin> hry
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14:19:43 Topic Is: 'Large cats can be dangerous, but a little pussy never hurt anyone.'
14:19:43 Set By: (stefan) on: Sun May 07 02:18:19 2006
14:19:53 <damian__> that one was rather odd..
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14:22:54 <Carson> you heard any 'testeagles' songs?
14:23:04 <damian__> what's that comedians name that ed used to be obsessed with
14:23:06 <Carson> nfi
14:23:32 <damian__> he's now on that show where someone walks behind a door and dont know what they're presented with
14:23:41 <damian__> of course i have *thaps*
14:23:41 <Carson> "thank god your here"
14:23:51 <damian__> that's the one
14:24:11 <Carson> i'd have to say i reckon testeagles are probably my favourite band
14:24:20 <C[02:24:14pm] (+Carson> too bad they don't actually have that[02:24:35pm] (+C[02:24:29pm] (+Carson) they also put on a wicked li[02:24:43pm] (+C[02:24:37pm] (+Carson) (going back [02:24:48pm] (+C[02:24:41pm] (+Carson) i don't think they've done a[02:25:29pm] (@J[02:25:23pm] (@JarZ) Carson; eh! if i was there, i so would'v[02:25:33pm] (@J[02:25:27pm] (@JarZ) who'd you go to the[02:25:34pm] ***[02:25:28pm] *** Quit: damian_ ([email protected]) Read error to damian_: Opera[02:25:37pm] (+C[02:25:31pm] (+Carso[02:25:45pm] (+Carson) i have a new gambling partner though
14:25:53 <C[02:25:47pm] (+Carson> me and clinton were w[02:26:03pm] (+C[02:25:57pm] (+Carson) roulette[02:26:04pm] (damian__) hrm
14:26:09 <damian__> i thought the testeagles were older than they are
14:26:14 <J[02:26:08pm] (@JarZ> but you[02:26:19pm] (+C[02:26:13pm] (+Carso[02:26:23pm] (damian__) where's stable
14:26:26 <J[02:26:20pm] (@JarZ> all of your big wins have been when i[02:26:27pm] (+Carson) went a bit stupid at the end
14:26:30 <C[02:26:23pm] (+Ca[02:26:34pm] (@J[02:26:28pm] (@JarZ> like those two $1k wins, and the $[02:26:35pm] (@J[02:26:2[02:26:35pm] (+C[02:26:34pm] (+Carson) we le[02:26:46pm] (@JarZ) stupid? examples?
14:26:59 <C[02:26:53pm] (+Carson> a hund[02:27:08pm] (@J[02:27:02p[02:27:12pm] (@J[02:27:06pm] (@JarZ) i ta[02:27:17pm] (+C[02:27:10pm] (+Carson) y[02:27:21pm] (@J[02:27:15pm] (@JarZ[02:27:22pm] (+C[02:27:16pm] (+Carson) which is why [02:28:03pm] (@J[02:27:57p[02:28:08pm] (@J[02:28:02pm] (@JarZ) so, anyone up to a[02:28:24pm] (+C[02:28:18pm] (+Carson) so annoyed though... i wanted to go play craps... by the time i got to the craps table... it closed 5 m[02:28:45pm] (+C[02:28:38pm] (+Carson) and the guys were packing up, and said if we were 5 or so mins earlier they would have k[02:29:22pm] (+C[02:29:16pm] (+Carson) i'm up for something, if i[02:29:51pm] (@J[02:29:45pm] (@Ja[02:29:58pm] (damian__) [02:29:34pm] (damian__) !search testeagles
14:29:58 <damian__> [02:29:37pm] (+Stable) Testeagles - Just Another Bonus Disc [33]
14:29:58 <damian__> [02:29:39pm] (+Stable) Testeagles - Non-Comprehendus [33]
14:29:58 <damian__> [02:29:41pm] (+Stable) Testeagles - Non-Comprehendus (2cd) [41]
14:29:58 <damian__> [02:29:43pm] (+Stable) Testeagles - Friends [43]
14:30:04 <damian__> didn't think i had more than one of their albums :P
14:30:06 <J[02:30:00pm] (@JarZ> i have a massive craving fo[02:30:10pm] (@J[02:30:04pm] (@JarZ) but other than that i have no [02:30:18pm] (+C[02:30:12pm] (+Carson) i gotta goto boris' though... stupid fucker can't setup adsl himself... so i[02:30:38pm] (@J[02:30:32pm] [02:30:50pm] (+C[02:30:44pm] (+Carson) the little iga supermarket i us[02:33:03pm] (+C[02:32:56pm] (+Carson) damo, whats the number at[02:33:09pm] (+Carson) id code or something?
14:37:34 <damian__> yuh, mp3 cd it's on
14:37:37 <Carson> hmm
14:37:39 <Carson> thought so
14:37:43 <Carson> http://www.testeagles.net/InvForums/index.php?showtopic=100&st=30
14:37:54 <damian__> have to modify it so [02:38:01pm] (damian__)[02:38:04pm] (damian__) just made that the ot[02:38:11pm] (damian__) just made that the other day t[02:38:31pm] (+Carson) righto
14:38:39 <Carson> mines easy.
14:38:49 <Carson> All artists - All trac[02:38:5[02:39:17pm] (damian__) yuh
14:39:35 <Carson> also Testeagles are cool, even if they havnt released anything for over 6 years
14:39:39 <Carson> And they're about to unleash... they should have their own section on here.
14:39:42 <Carson> .... !
14:39:46 <damian__> lol
14:43:56 <Carson> lol
14:44:02 <Carson> brisbane people are weird
14:44:20 <Carson> ages ago brisbane people called it 'brisvegas' now i see 'Brisneyland'
14:47:34 <JarZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion
14:47:37 <JarZ> holy fuck that's awesome
14:47:58 <JarZ> it's like quake style rocket jumping.... with nukes and space ships
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15:24:51 <JarZ> eya
15:24:52 <Taliesin> hey
15:25:26 <JarZ> what's up?
15:25:32 <Taliesin> nm
15:25:35 <Taliesin> u?
15:25:43 <JarZ> fuck all
15:25:47 <JarZ> looking into car loans
15:26:52 <damian> St George 'Get Set Loan'
15:27:23 <damian> well, that's the best for me anywho :P
15:27:42 <damian> if you dont know how long the laon will take to pay off
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16:26:45 <JarZ> `topic Andy's birthday bash, Saturday June 17th. Msg me for details!
16:37:27 <Talesin> hey
16:38:45 <JarZ> eya what's up?
16:41:53 <Talesin> nm
16:41:59 <Talesin> just reading that article you posted
16:42:03 <Talesin> pretty interesting
16:42:19 <JarZ> yeah
16:42:26 <JarZ> i've been reading wikipedia all day
16:42:28 <JarZ> lol
16:42:45 <JarZ> mostly about space stuff and fighter planes
16:43:19 <JarZ> cold war military projects were all so fucking insane!
16:46:22 <Talesin> we should just use those huge 8,000,000 ton ones to colonize the universe
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16:50:01 <The_Apostle> hey
16:50:13 <JarZ> Talesin; yeah, and kill half of the planet with radiation in the process
16:50:14 <JarZ> lol
16:50:15 <JarZ> eya jack
16:55:09 <Talesin> maybe we make one big enough that we take everyone in one big ship therefor the fallout doesnt really matter
16:58:06 <JarZ> lol
16:59:20 <Talesin> that was intresting
16:59:30 <Talesin> and now ive got heaps of new tabs i have to go through eventually
16:59:39 <JarZ> lol yeah
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17:06:55 <JarZ> taliesin, have you ever read anything about the sr-71?
17:07:05 <JarZ> the blackbird.. it's the most awesome plane ever :P
17:07:06 <JarZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sr-71
17:07:06 <JarZ> :D
17:07:11 <damian> mm, SR71
17:07:19 <JarZ> and it's 1960's tech!
17:07:32 <damian> http://www.sr-71.net/
17:07:34 <damian> :P
17:07:36 <damian> better SR-71
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17:09:44 <damian> 3,500km/h
17:09:46 <damian> not bad :P
17:18:51 <damian> rofl, wtf.
17:18:56 <damian> carson, you awake?
17:19:29 <damian> did you actually make your linux machine say ' Wuff ---- Wuff!! ' when it was loading / error or whatever?
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19:07:16 <The_Apostle> hey
19:07:25 <JarZ> eya
19:07:49 <Taliesin> hey
19:07:57 <Taliesin> whats happening
19:08:06 <Taliesin> getting that assignment done jack?
19:08:10 <The_Apostle> nup
19:08:24 <The_Apostle> i have about 20 journal articles, now i got to read them and take notes
19:09:11 <Taliesin> how much are you loosing per day?
19:09:24 <The_Apostle> a grade band per week
19:09:29 <The_Apostle> i have until thursday
19:09:40 <Taliesin> ah thats right i remember now
19:09:58 <The_Apostle> when does pool start again?
19:10:00 <Taliesin> do you loose any marks if you get it in within the week?
19:10:02 <Taliesin> not sure
19:10:19 <The_Apostle> yeah i've already lost a grade band no matter what
19:15:59 <Taliesin> how long do you think its going to take you?
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19:55:40 <ash^> ey
19:55:57 <JarZ> ey sup?
19:56:05 <ash^> doing an assignment
20:04:21 <The_Apostle> its like that
20:05:04 <ash^> that was an awesome game last night
20:05:42 <JarZ> yup
20:13:09 <The_Apostle> i missed it
20:14:48 <ash^> the game against japan is next monday
20:17:45 <ash^> brazil beat NZ 4-0 :>
20:19:15 <The_Apostle> nice, when was that game?
20:22:28 <ash^> at the same time as last night's one i think
20:23:49 <The_Apostle> ah
20:24:09 <The_Apostle> so NZ qualified for the world cup eh
20:25:07 <ash^> i don't think so, it was just a friendly matchup or something
20:25:14 <ash^> like when we played greece
20:26:32 <ash^> on wed we are playing liechenstien or some weird team like that
20:27:57 <The_Apostle> is that a local german team?
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20:31:48 <ash^> it's some tiny country that i never even realised existed. its so small i don't think it's on most maps
20:33:02 <ash^> population 34,000
20:33:05 <ash^> haha
20:33:21 <The_Apostle> heh
20:33:28 <The_Apostle> i never heard of that place either
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20:40:06 <ash^> when are you moving out jack?
20:40:19 <ash^> and is nick gonna move in with you?
20:41:03 <The_Apostle> in the holidays after this semester finishes
20:41:03 <The_Apostle> me nick and adam
20:41:44 <ash^> how are you gonna get to uni?
20:42:18 <JarZ> The Liechtenstein national football team has traditionally been regarded as an easy target for any team drawn against them, a fact that served as the basis for a book about Liechtenstein's disastrous qualifying campaign for the 2002 World Cup by British author Charlie Connelly. In autumn 2004, however, in an astonishing week the team managed a 2:2 draw with Portugal, who only a few months earlier had been the losing finalists in the European Champi
20:42:20 <JarZ> LOL
20:42:25 <JarZ> gg wikipedia
20:44:05 <The_Apostle> ash^: bus i guess. hopefully next semester me and adam have similar timetables and i can get a lift to uni with him a few days a week
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20:45:15 <ash^> ah yeah
20:46:07 <The_Apostle> you still keen on moving out ash?
20:47:07 <ash^> yeah but some time in the first half of next year i think
21:03:55 <Carson> i've been thinking about it more
21:04:15 <Carson> as soon as my loan is payed off (probably around 6 months)
21:04:29 <Carson> then i'll do heaps of loan investigations aswell as house-hunting
21:04:36 <Carson> quite looking forward to it
21:04:45 <Carson> gotta ask work about a few things aswell
21:05:09 <Carson> eg, what kind of job security i have, and also if i need more money, are they 'ok' with me doing more shifts to get more money
21:06:38 <The_Apostle> what i dont understand is why you want to buy a house!
21:06:58 <Carson> why wouldn't i?
21:07:10 <Carson> i'll be able to renovate and do whatever i want with it
21:07:18 <Carson> if i rent, i'm living by someone elses rules still
21:07:30 <Carson> you can't even hang a bloody picture on the wall
21:07:40 <The_Apostle> you're only 21, dont you want to spend some time free before you start locking yourself into home loans etc?
21:07:54 <Carson> and when i move out, i plan on having the whole house hooked into the same musical interface
21:07:55 <ash^> have you lived in a rented house before carson?
21:08:08 <Carson> no ash, i haven't... which is another thing which i need to consider
21:08:21 <ash^> cos you can hang pictures
21:08:56 <ash^> you can do a lot of things depending on your landlord, but generally you run it by them first and they say it's ok
21:09:07 <Carson> but you can't punch holes in walls and put speakers in every room, or change the cornices, or paint rooms, or build a pergola
21:09:30 <ash^> painting/pergola is fine
21:09:40 <ash^> thats one of the benefits of renting out a house
21:09:45 <ash^> the tenants maintain it
21:09:50 <Carson> and if you have a wicked land lord that lets you do that... you increase their property value not yours
21:10:48 <The_Apostle> will you be able to travel if you buy a house?
21:11:15 <Carson> and renting does have it advantages i know, but i think a house is better
21:11:23 <Carson> i don't have an urge to travel
21:12:04 <The_Apostle> fair enough
21:12:15 <Carson> renting is also a bottomless pit... you can rent forever, and have nothing at the end
21:12:43 <Carson> another thing is, if i live there for a year, i can re-sell without having to pay any tax and start renting
21:13:04 <Carson> its not like as soon as i buy the house i'm locked in for the next 30 years (although, i could be, depending on the loan)
21:13:39 <Carson> property value basically always goes up
21:13:55 <Carson> unless you're unlucky... but there are signs if that is going to happen
21:14:48 <ash^> yah
21:14:51 <ash^> buying a house will make you rich
21:15:03 <ash^> which is why i'm thinking about it, but i'd be more likely to buy a little unit or something
21:15:10 <ash^> and then a big house after that
21:16:04 <The_Apostle> so you buy a house, live in it for a year then sell it? can you make a profit out of that?
21:20:07 <ash^> maybe
21:20:41 <ash^> in 1 year it would depend on what is happening short term with the property market, but you would always have the 1 year of equity built up
21:20:48 <ash^> 3 years would probably be better..
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21:20:52 <ash^> to guarantee a profit
21:21:27 <ash^> although, in the first year of paying a mortgage, most of the payments go towards interest right?
21:22:04 <Carson> yeah :(
21:29:16 <Carson> but yeah, the main reason i'd rather buy than rent is because there isn't really that much of a difference... except for the startup costs
21:30:09 <ash^> yah
21:30:14 <ash^> i don't think buying a house is ever a bad thing
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21:31:31 <Carson> wb
21:31:36 <The_Apostle> thanks
21:32:29 <Carson> what was the last thing you saw?
21:33:03 <The_Apostle> the last thing i said
21:33:21 <Carson> 20:50 < ash^> maybe
21:33:21 <Carson> 20:50 < ash^> in 1 year it would depend on what is happening short
21:33:24 <Carson> term with the property market, but you would always
21:33:28 <Carson> have the 1 year of equity built up
21:33:31 <Carson> 20:50 < ash^> 3 years would probably be better..
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21:33:38 <Carson> 20:50 < ash^> to guarantee a profit
21:33:41 <Carson> 20:51 < ash^> although, in the first year of paying a mortgage, most
21:33:44 <Carson> of the payments go towards interest right?
21:33:46 <Carson> 20:52 <+ Carson> yeah :(
21:33:49 <Carson> 20:59 <+ Carson> but yeah, the main reason i'd rather buy than rent is because there isn't really that much of a
21:33:52 <Carson> difference... except for the startup costs
21:33:55 <Carson> 21:00 < ash^> yah
21:33:57 <Carson> 21:00 < ash^> i don't think buying a house is ever a bad thing
21:34:49 <ash^> if you pay a house off by the time you're 35 you're going to be fucking loaded because that's when you start to be earning nice $$ from a career and also you'll have very low living expenses due to free house :>
21:34:59 <The_Apostle> true
21:35:12 <The_Apostle> i just dont like the idea of having some huge debt hanging over you for ages
21:35:34 <The_Apostle> even if you're going to profit from it in the future (not that anythings guaranteed)
21:35:56 <Carson> house at 35? thats definately ambitious
21:36:41 <ash^> the debt is just like rent though, but instead of paying the owner of the house you're paying the bank
21:36:58 <ash^> which is really paying yourself in the end
21:37:17 <The_Apostle> isnt it more than renting a house though? amount per week that is
21:37:35 <ash^> a mortgage can be like $1500 a month or something on a $300k house ?
21:37:41 <ash^> i dunno
21:37:56 <Carson> the amount you pay back monthly/weekly is more
21:39:08 <Carson> yeah, 1500 is somewhat accurate too
21:39:35 <The_Apostle> and it would take something like 15 years to pay off?
21:40:41 <Carson> hmmm *checks an email* lemme find out :)
21:41:20 <ash^> its probably longer than that unless you make extra payments
21:41:45 <ash^> i guess it would be hard to do on a single income
21:42:19 <Carson> yeah, i'm reasonably sure its around to 20-30 year mark
21:42:23 <Carson> this pc doesn't have excel :(
21:43:26 <The_Apostle> wow, 20-30 years is a loooong time
21:44:48 <Carson> 30 years, is what my estimate was
21:45:09 <Carson> 240,000, 30 years, at 7.32%pa
21:45:18 <Carson> payments are 1382 per month
21:47:29 <The_Apostle> so you're willing to live in the house you move out of home into for 30 years until you pay it off?
21:48:23 <Carson> no
21:48:25 <Carson> that'll never happen
21:48:41 <Carson> but i'll probably live in it for 5 years... and then upgrade
21:50:38 <Carson> most likely with whoever i'm going out with at the time
21:50:47 <Carson> and then i'll probably upgrade again if/when i have kids
21:53:33 <The_Apostle> how does upgrading work? where does the debt go
21:53:53 <Carson> lets go with roundish numbers
21:54:03 <Carson> 250,000 dollar house
21:54:07 <ash^> you sell the house, which pays off the debt
21:54:18 <Carson> yeah
21:54:30 <Carson> and whatever you have in savings goes towards another house
21:55:07 <The_Apostle> ah ok
22:19:11 <ash^> how are you assignments going jack?
22:19:22 <ash^> i've got one due in 71 mins
22:27:25 <JarZ> aww i missed the house conversation
22:27:25 <JarZ> lol
22:27:41 <JarZ> buying is definately the way to go, if you can afford to do it
22:28:00 <JarZ> the only way you're going to lose out on property is if you're incredibly unlucky, or a complete idiot
22:31:33 <Taliesin> jees way to put the pressure on carson :p
22:32:08 <JarZ> it's so hard to lose money on property
22:32:15 <JarZ> at least residential property
22:34:57 <Carson> lol
22:35:29 <The_Apostle> ash^: i've barely started it. i've read through like 2 journal articles and noted them
22:39:06 <The_Apostle> hows your assignment coming along?
22:44:13 <Carson> i'll just claim i'm unlucky, if it turns out bad
22:46:57 <ash^> just submitting it now
22:47:00 <ash^> i hate doing cover sheets
22:47:16 <The_Apostle> yeah they're lame
22:47:31 <The_Apostle> i always lie about the word count if its less than a hundred over the limit
22:48:51 <ash^> whoa, i'm speaking with maz, she's been in croatia
22:48:52 <ash^> crazy
22:50:25 <Taliesin> not a place i would have expected her to go
22:50:37 <ash^> yeah
22:50:40 <ash^> she was in budapest too
22:50:57 <ash^> aparently with soem swedish girl who has been living in croatia
23:10:43 <ash^> woohoo, submitted
23:11:10 <Carson> what was the assignment about?
23:12:51 <ash^> distributed databases
23:16:04 <Carson> COOL
23:17:17 <Carson> nfi what that is specifically
23:17:55 <Carson> 1252 upgraded, 230 newly installed, 63 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
23:17:55 <Carson> Need to get 907MB of archives.
23:17:55 <Carson> After unpacking 241MB of additional disk space will be used.
23:17:56 <Carson> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
23:18:27 <Carson> gotta love linux sometimes... lol
23:18:51 <ash^> yah, although are you sure that all 1252 of those upgrades are secure? :P
23:19:09 <Carson> its going through all ubuntu sources.... i trust them enough :)
23:19:22 <Carson> how do you know that ANY windows updates are?
23:20:14 <ash^> history has shown that windows updates introduce a lot of bugs
23:22:41 Nick: Im-a-bax is now known as im-a-bax
23:22:48 <Carson> well that makes sense
23:22:58 <Carson> alot of updates introduce bugs
23:23:36 <Carson> its just what happens when you apply a fix, rather than doing it properly first
23:23:48 <Carson> and of course, when its a huge package, it becomes more difficult
23:25:15 <Carson> fark... only getting 70k
23:25:37 <im-a-bax> hah, that'll be fun
23:25:43 <im-a-bax> love the node mirror, saturated every time :)
23:26:09 <Carson> i'm actually thinking this is related to me being on wireless
23:26:24 <Carson> cbf running a test to confirm though
23:26:57 Join: Ash2 ([email protected]) to #marryatvillehs
23:27:00 <Carson> wb
23:27:15 <Ash2> ta
23:27:38 <Carson> so what are you bax from stef
23:27:46 <im-a-bax> ask sid
23:27:56 <Carson> sid... what is stef back from?
23:28:01 <Ash2> haha
23:28:02 <im-a-bax> /whois im-a-box is a start
23:28:10 <Simulacrum> haha
23:28:18 <Simulacrum> im-a-box == dan
23:28:21 <Simulacrum> im-a-bex == me
23:28:24 <Carson> i see
23:28:28 <Simulacrum> im-a-bax == stefan
23:28:31 <Simulacrum> he's not bax
23:28:33 <Simulacrum> he's just a baxtard
23:28:40 <im-a-bax> it was actually just left from when you last used this
23:28:45 <Simulacrum> haha
23:28:45 <Simulacrum> oh yeah
23:28:47 <Simulacrum> I was thinking
23:28:53 <Simulacrum> "...but wasn't I bax? I must've been bex or something"
23:28:54 <Simulacrum> OPKAY
23:28:54 <Simulacrum> FINE
23:28:57 <Simulacrum> I last used his laptop on irc
23:29:02 <Simulacrum> and I used im-a-bax
23:29:07 <Simulacrum> because dan was im-a-box
23:29:08 <Ash2> what about bix/bux
23:29:38 <Carson> then 'im-e-box'
23:29:40 <Carson> etc
23:29:43 <Ash2> lol
23:29:56 <im-a-bax> nah, in-a-box
23:30:13 <Ash2> ur-a-box
23:30:16 Quit: ash^ ([email protected]) Ping timeout for ash^
23:30:21 Nick: Ash2 is now known as aSH^
23:30:51 <Carson> 'pump-a-box'
23:31:18 <aSH^> thats dirty
23:31:24 <Carson> tis :D
23:31:25 <aSH^> i think you should go pump a box to get that off your mind
23:36:06 <Carson> i can't really think of a response for that
23:36:29 <Carson> not a good one anyway :)
23:36:38 <aSH^> lol
23:39:51 <aSH^> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060602/wl_nm/arms_russia_dc
23:39:52 <aSH^> fark
23:44:59 <JarZ> holy crap
23:45:12 <JarZ> cold war v 2.0
23:52:54 <Taliesin> thats a bit sensationalised seeing how long the article is talking about
23:53:10 <Simulacrum> cold wars are arms races
23:53:14 Quit: aSH^ ([email protected]) Ping timeout for aSH^
23:53:15 <Simulacrum> not arms jogs or wanders
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