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07:56:00 <Glenn> Good morning Tru!
07:56:00 <Glenn> You're up early... or were you kicked out of the nest...?
07:56:00 <TruLady> morning :))))
07:57:00 <TruLady> couldn't sleep hon...been away since 1.30
07:57:00 <Glenn> ....errk.... :((
07:57:00 <TruLady> awake
07:57:00 <TruLady> but then thats normal lately... *sighs*
07:57:00 <Glenn> You have that thunderstorm/s late yesterday and last nnight?
07:58:00 <Glenn> Sounds as though you're worried about something...
07:58:00 <TruLady> nope don't think so...I head everything else..lol
08:00:00 <TruLady> nup
08:00:00 <TruLady> impossible to sleep
08:00:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmm.... :((
08:00:00 <TruLady> mmm alright
08:01:00 <TruLady> so whats it like in the valley
08:01:00 <Glenn> Clear blue sky, no wind and no more storms. Should be a really nice day so long as it doesn't get too hot.
08:02:00 <TruLady> overcast here today..well this morning
08:03:00 <Glenn> Can see cloud well over to the west... might get here later perhaps, though I hope not. My back lawn was white with all the hail late yesterday...
08:03:00 <TruLady> have to mow mine today
08:04:00 <Glenn> Just about ready for mine to be mowed again too... though only mowed it lasty weel. There's those little white daisies everywhere.
08:04:00 <TruLady> lol
08:05:00 <Glenn> Must be about Chris's turn to cut the grass isn't it...?
08:05:00 <TruLady> mine is about 3 fet high from last weel
08:05:00 <TruLady> Chris never cuts the lawns anymore
08:05:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmmm... :(
08:05:00 <TruLady> there are times when I'd just love to pack and go
08:06:00 <Glenn> There are auctions on today...
08:06:00 <TruLady> darn..lol.. I miss them
08:07:00 <Glenn> A lot of furniture there this time... not a lot in the "boys toys" department though...
08:07:00 <TruLady> LOL
08:08:00 <Glenn> ...a passing topic... --> *** Topic is 'confuscious say, "lady who walk through rose garden of life with short skirt on is sure to get alot of pricks"'
08:08:00 <TruLady> LOLOL
08:08:00 <TruLady> hey your lot in here were a bit miffed at me the other night
08:08:00 <Glenn> Sheesh... makes you wonder just who thinks of such things!!!!
08:09:00 <Glenn> They were?
08:09:00 <TruLady> they wanted to know "how" I got such high ops..and why..loll.
08:09:00 <TruLady> I didn't realise you had put me that high
08:09:00 <Glenn> They find out that you.... er.... were and Aussie?
08:09:00 <TruLady> they were ok about that..lol
08:09:00 <TruLady> but I dumped 2 guys who came in and were cride...
08:09:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmmm.... family friend?
08:09:00 <TruLady> crude...
08:09:00 <Glenn> Good!
08:09:00 <TruLady> lolol
08:10:00 <TruLady> yeah well I said I'd been a friend of yours for years..lol
08:10:00 <Glenn> I like to dump the tossers too....
08:10:00 <TruLady> I could feel them raise their eyes..LOL
08:10:00 <Glenn> Well, that ccertainly has some truth to it! I've never met any of the others in this channel.
08:11:00 <TruLady> hehehe
08:11:00 <TruLady> Korborg is a lovely person tho
08:11:00 <Glenn> Actually, they are all a good bunch, though this lot is a "new generation". I still keep in contact with about 10 previous members.
08:12:00 <TruLady> ok...well one of them kept saying.....all these new nicks...its not right..lolol
08:12:00 <Glenn> Yeah... can be a worry!
08:13:00 <TruLady> lol
08:13:00 <TruLady> I just said to him...it was so nice to meet him..lol...and he smiled
08:13:00 <Glenn> Just watching the morning news... the interviews with the protesters at Pine Gap
08:14:00 <TruLady> I dunno about those protesters......
08:15:00 <TruLady> what do they think life would be like with ppl like osama
08:15:00 <Glenn> I still feel that any protester whose primary source of income is derived from socail welfare related souces should have their employment status immediately re-assessed, and their income eligibility re-tested.
08:16:00 <TruLady> yep agreed there
08:16:00 <Glenn> People have the right to protest... the right to voice their opinnion, but NOT at the expense of the taxpayer!
08:17:00 <TruLady> well I'm not pleased about it I can tell ya
08:17:00 <Glenn> Yeah... I'm a taxpayer too....
08:18:00 <TruLady> ditto..lol
08:19:00 <Glenn> I think the police or government tried that once... cutting dole payments to these professional ferals, but had to re-instate 'cos of the fuss...
08:19:00 <TruLady> we should be in government hon..lol
08:21:00 <Glenn> There would be less people employed in governbment... and unemployment benefits would be very very temporary.
08:21:00 <TruLady> LOLOL
08:21:00 <TruLady> we have a lady who comes into school on the work for the dole scheme
08:22:00 <Glenn> ...ah huh... she interested in work or just going through the motins in order to keep her dole?
08:23:00 <TruLady> nahhh she's great
08:23:00 <TruLady> we've been working together
08:23:00 <Glenn> That's a relief! I've met a few with the OTHER attitude...
08:24:00 <TruLady> she would make a fabulouse burser
08:24:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmm... still got your last one?
08:24:00 <TruLady> yeah.......we have
08:24:00 <Glenn> :)
08:25:00 <TruLady> was gonna talk to some ppl in the place where ya talk about ppl who harrass you liek this
08:25:00 <TruLady> lol
08:25:00 <TruLady> I'm not sure what to do about it
08:25:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmm... that's a difficult one....
08:25:00 <TruLady> I know
08:26:00 <TruLady> have some phone numbers...but I'm not sure about ringing
08:26:00 <Glenn> I've signed all the documents required by my solicitor... have decided to let him do what ever he likes with the University.
08:27:00 <Glenn> Still trying to figure out how to get retrenched....
08:27:00 <TruLady> so where does that leave you
08:27:00 <TruLady> what did you have to sign
08:27:00 <Glenn> The reason for taking action against the University... basically that they have failed to provide a safe work place.
08:28:00 <Glenn> I've been hesitant about it 'cos I believe that the University will remove ME from the work place... rather than deal with the problem/s...
08:28:00 <TruLady> so you aren't taking any more action?? I'm not understanding this
08:29:00 <Glenn> Oh sure... there's a string of things on the go at the moment... but I only have to work for a little over two years now.. then can take early retirement.
08:29:00 <TruLady> so can you last that long??
08:30:00 <Glenn> No idea... :(
08:30:00 <TruLady> are they making any provisions for you there??
08:30:00 <Glenn> Nope... just refusing to release me from highly discriminatory workplace movement restrictions...
08:30:00 <TruLady> hmmm not good is it
08:30:00 <Glenn> ...ah huh...
08:32:00 <Glenn> I've also not made myself too popular in "certain circles" by having my fiorst research paper forammly accepted for inclusion in the coming International Conference in Thailad.
08:32:00 <Glenn> Gotta ge a new keyboard...
08:32:00 <Glenn> TTTTTTTTTT
08:33:00 <TruLady> how come???
08:34:00 <Glenn> Seems that "certain" academic staff are feeling a little humiliated by what they see as a mere technician showing them up by conducting own funded research in fields they claim expertise in, then writing about it... and getting recognition from outside of the University for the effort!
08:34:00 <TruLady> tough hey....
08:35:00 <Glenn> Yeah... <*smirk*>
08:36:00 <TruLady> lol you are wicked Glenn..lol
08:37:00 <Glenn> Yeah... but I learned from "experts"... :)))
08:37:00 <TruLady> hehe..you tend to do that hey
08:39:00 <Glenn> Was supposed have completed the second paper in the series about a week ago, but was unabxle to complete the research first. I prefer to be able to demonstrate the results of theories... rather than simply talk about them.
08:40:00 <TruLady> hmmm
08:40:00 <Glenn> ...ah huh...
08:41:00 <TruLady> bummer
08:41:00 <Glenn> Some better news....
08:42:00 <Glenn> A few weeks ago, when a called to Ying's flat to return a plate Lulu have given me with some of her Birthday cake, I thought I heard Ying invite me in.
08:43:00 <Glenn> Unfortunately, I couldn't follow up on that 'cos I'd left the engine running, and hadn't been home yet. It was after all about 7.30pm.
08:43:00 <TruLady> :(((
08:43:00 <TruLady> I was just thinking abot Ying then
08:44:00 <Glenn> Last week end, keeping this even in mind, I took the dog for a walk, and this time called to see Ying... something I'd nnot done for quite a while now.
08:45:00 <Glenn> She actually innvited me into her flat... and wanted to talk about our future... divorce, not divorce, get back together and so on.
08:45:00 <TruLady> so she was ok when you did that??
08:45:00 <TruLady> gee really??
08:46:00 <Glenn> Well, she kept trying to bring back the past and dwell on that... and I wasn't interested. Can't do anything about the past 'cept perhaps learn from it.
08:46:00 <TruLady> that past?? but you didn't do anything
08:46:00 <Glenn> She wanted to know if I wanted to divorce her... and I said I wasn't.
08:47:00 <Glenn> Yeah... I know... but in her mind I did. She still has a problem regarding my "girlfriends"...
08:47:00 <TruLady> that pisses me off
08:47:00 <TruLady> what other g/f's
08:48:00 <Glenn> Oh well... she sees ANY female aquaintance of mine being a potential threat...
08:48:00 <TruLady> crap......but I know that....:(((
08:48:00 <Glenn> Prefers to catagorise them as "girlfriends"...
08:49:00 <TruLady> well tht is not right
08:49:00 <TruLady> so that mean...I wouldn't be able to come visit..when I came down there........
08:49:00 <TruLady> :((
08:49:00 <Glenn> I did however point out that she has far more "boyfirends" call to see her, than I have ANY person visit me!
08:49:00 <TruLady> one sided hey
08:49:00 <Glenn> ...and that some still call by 'phone from China!
08:49:00 <Glenn> ...er, yeah...
08:50:00 <TruLady> any comment re that??
08:50:00 <Glenn> Most indignant...!
08:51:00 <TruLady> can't have it both ways hey
08:51:00 <TruLady> I'm still prepared to go meet her with Striker
08:51:00 <Glenn> Anyway... I still wasn't interested in discussing that... and certainly wasn't interested in getting into a pointless argument about something that just didn't have any substance ayway.
08:51:00 <TruLady> I'd do anything I could for you if it would help
08:52:00 <Glenn> Thanks Tru... I know... ;)))
08:52:00 <TruLady> if that's what you wanted
08:52:00 <Glenn> I'll see what she plans to do next....
08:53:00 <Glenn> Anyway, one sticking point she always had was the house and everything else was all in my name.
08:53:00 <TruLady> well.......I know tho...if I do...she will realise how wrong she was.....and she may not be able to face that
08:53:00 <TruLady> so what do you do
08:55:00 <TruLady> I just signed a paper the other day....that signed away my 150,000.00....cos I would have had to fight ashley for the rest of my money..and I don't think I could have done that....
08:55:00 <TruLady> my health couldn't have taken it
08:56:00 <Glenn> I spent a very frustrating 4 days last week on the 'phone, then two trips during working hours to the bank, to start the process of having the house transfered into joint names.
08:56:00 <Glenn> If anything does happen later, she still has negligible claim on the house 'cos she hasn't put anything into it.
08:57:00 <TruLady> so you are prepared to do that to get her back Glenn
08:57:00 <Glenn> Well, let's just say that I'm prepared to take the chance. Seems that I have very little to lose trying... 'cept a bit of time.
08:57:00 <TruLady> this is true
08:58:00 <TruLady> again if I can do anything I will...,....
08:58:00 <TruLady> I feel very awful about it all
08:58:00 <TruLady> and I can't help it
08:58:00 <Glenn> I think she genuinly wants to come back... but her ego and pride keep gettinng in her way.
08:58:00 <TruLady> especially seeing we are just pretty close good friends....
08:59:00 <Glenn> No... it had nothing to do with you at all.... Ying just tried to justify her hactions by a little bit of "creative thinking"....
08:59:00 <TruLady> and I don't believe I didn anything I shouldn't have......and seeing I was coming to see Ying as well...to make her my friend too...:((....
08:59:00 <TruLady> I just dont understand it
09:00:00 <Glenn> Yeah... well, neither do I much...
09:00:00 <TruLady> well even if it didn't have anything to do with me I dont understand it
09:00:00 <TruLady> she needs to understand Australian culture....
09:00:00 <TruLady> I think that's the bottom line
09:00:00 <TruLady> a real shame Glenn.....
09:01:00 <Glenn> Yeah... she doesn't seem to want to let go of her past....
09:01:00 <TruLady> and I admire you so much for the way in which you have handled all of this
09:01:00 <TruLady> well she has to understand this isn't China....and everyone would make her so welcome........
09:01:00 <Glenn> Not much else I could have done...
09:02:00 <TruLady> hehe nope I guess not...you've just been so patient......
09:02:00 <TruLady> and she wasn't secure in herself......and I don't know why.....cos you brought her out here..and married her
09:02:00 <Glenn> ...and you're right, she would indeed be welcomed back. I feel quite sure that my family would simply welcome her as they have always done with no hint or reference to the past in any way. That's just how my family is.
09:03:00 <TruLady> well I know if she gave me half a chance Glenn......I'd like very much to be her friend...
09:03:00 <TruLady> and that's the way I always wanted it.....
09:04:00 <Glenn> I think she had been badly hurt in a previous marriage, as I was... and wasn't about to allow herself be too dependant on any-one. Whereas, I wasn't prepared to allow any-one to get into the position of being able to kick me out of my own home again either!
09:05:00 <TruLady> yeah ...well....there is a story behind it all I'm sure...and ppl do things for strange reasons.........some we will never understand
09:05:00 <TruLady> but...when someone is brought into a country as Ying was.....everyone goes to extra lengths to make them welcome.....
09:06:00 <TruLady> gosh....you do your level best.......to try to fill the gap for the things she left behind
09:06:00 <Glenn> I guess not... perhaps I should have asked her more of her past, but simply felt that it wasn't any of my business, and better to work towards a future. If Ying had wanted me to know, then I felt that she would tell me in her own good time.
09:07:00 <TruLady> I would have thought so to.......some things are private aren't they....and they are best left......and its up to the individual to tell you when they are comfortable
09:07:00 <TruLady> or if at least they wish to
09:08:00 <Glenn> Yeah... that's the way we are brought up here.
09:08:00 <TruLady> hmmm.....well I really hope things turn around hon........
09:08:00 <Glenn> ...ah huh...
09:09:00 <Glenn> Anyway, I'll take the dog for a walk around to her flat againn this afternoon, and just see what the situation is now... after she's had time to think about what we talked about last Sunday.
09:09:00 <TruLady> lol thats always the dangerous time hey..lol
09:09:00 <Glenn> Yeah... but I've had 18 months to think about it... seems that she's had very little time at all.
09:10:00 <TruLady> but maybe she wouldn't think about it like you have
09:10:00 <Glenn> I think she's been far too pre-occupied about the past...
09:10:00 <TruLady> she would have done what she did.......then when it didn't go her way.....then would have thought about it
09:10:00 <Glenn> Perhaps...
09:11:00 <TruLady> I dont know her that well......
09:11:00 <TruLady> I shouldn't presume to wonder how she would think....
09:11:00 <Glenn> Anyway, I'll take things slowly and not place any pressure on her.
09:11:00 <TruLady> still she is very welcome in my house hon....
09:11:00 <TruLady> no pressure isn't good..lol
09:12:00 <Glenn> Thanks Tru... I hope that I can take up that invitation sometime! :))
09:12:00 <TruLady> no, ....
09:12:00 <TruLady> gee Glenn I hope so too....would mean an awful lot to me
09:12:00 <Glenn> :))))
09:12:00 <TruLady> I just want her to see......not all of us females have ulterior motives of steeling men away from their wives...
09:13:00 <TruLady> and that here is Australia..you can have female friends and male friends....but thats a way down the track
09:13:00 <Glenn> Yeah... perhaps things are different in Chinna. Surely... Ying must realise by now that there are NOT any "girlfriends"... I'm still here and still living on my own!
09:14:00 <TruLady> yep......its not China
09:14:00 <Glenn> Time to wash the dog...
09:14:00 <TruLady> hahahahaha
09:14:00 <TruLady> can see Muffy running
09:15:00 <Glenn> Take care Tru... and many thanks for the chat! :))))
09:15:00 <Glenn> She's disappeared...
09:15:00 <TruLady> np's Glenn have fun :)))
09:15:00 <Glenn> ....lying low somewhere...
09:15:00 <TruLady> haha I bet
09:15:00 <TruLady> Striker is laughing
09:15:00 <Glenn> Yeah... I'll bet!
09:15:00 <TruLady> lololol
09:15:00 <TruLady> huggsss
09:15:00 <Glenn> See ya's!
09:15:00 <TruLady> he said you will have to vary the bath routine to saturday..lol
09:15:00 <TruLady> bye :))
16:37:00 <Glenn> hey ppl's!
16:39:00 ChanOP sets mode: +v Angel`laH
16:39:00 ChanOP sets mode: +v Glenn
16:39:00 ChanOP sets mode: +v Loopy`
16:39:00 ChanOP sets mode: +v Rachel
16:40:00 ChanOP sets mode: +v TruLady
17:20:00 <Angel`laH> sigh
17:20:00 <Angel`laH> i dunno
17:20:00 <Nins> haahha soft ****
17:20:00 <Nins> as i said b4
17:20:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> well
17:20:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> change him
17:20:00 <Nins> therefore Mr Softy
17:20:00 <Angel`laH> i dun really want to
17:20:00 <Angel`laH> chang him
17:20:00 <Nins> hope he isnt a 'dud' in bed lol
17:20:00 <Angel`laH> besides its him
17:21:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> what do u eman by that
17:21:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> he bugs u alot
17:21:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> ?
17:21:00 <Angel`laH> no
17:21:00 <Angel`laH> the things he does
17:21:00 <Angel`laH> fustrates me
17:21:00 <TruLady> ello linying :))
17:21:00 <linying> Hey TruLady!
17:21:00 <Nins> Trulady advise her with ur wisdom
17:22:00 <TruLady> hmmm
17:22:00 <linying> ...ah huh...
17:22:00 * linying awaits for the pearls of wisdom....
17:22:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> i see
17:22:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> well havw u told him ho wu feel
17:22:00 <TruLady> think you either take him as he is cos he mightn't change.....
17:22:00 <Angel`laH> yes
17:22:00 <Angel`laH> and he jus keeps doing it
17:22:00 <TruLady> or you find someone else
17:22:00 <Angel`laH> he says he try to change
17:22:00 <Angel`laH> but i dun think he can
17:22:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> yeh u cant
17:22:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> change guys
17:22:00 <Nins> LESS talk MORE action!
17:22:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> its the way we r
17:22:00 <TruLady> well you can't change someone just like that
17:23:00 <TruLady> and maybe its not right to try
17:23:00 <Angel`laH> i said to him
17:23:00 <Angel`laH> 'maybe ull one day find a gal who likes your lateness, then ull be lucky'
17:23:00 <Nins> hahahaha
17:23:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> lateness
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17:23:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> he doesnt turn up on time
17:23:00 <Angel`laH> he wasn't impressed when i said that
17:23:00 <Nins> is he a lazy boy?
17:23:00 <Angel`laH> yeah
17:23:00 <Nins> same as my sis' ex
17:24:00 <Nins> they never change lol
17:24:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> well any guy wouldnt
17:24:00 <KiLLeR^bOi> liek that
17:24:00 <Angel`laH> hmmmm
17:24:00 <linying> ...ah huh...
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17:46:00 <TiTuS> `ban adiii
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17:46:00 <linying> ?
17:47:00 <clay> `ban adiii
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17:47:00 <clay> hey glen
17:47:00 <linying> Hey clay!
17:47:00 <clay> gooday mate
17:47:00 <linying> you kno/knew adiii?
17:47:00 <clay> yeah a spammer
17:48:00 <linying> Good... :))
17:51:00 <Nins> hahahha
17:51:00 <Nins> 1st time seen clay in action
17:52:00 <Nins> AMAZING
17:52:00 <Nins> O_O
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17:52:00 <clay> action in where?
17:53:00 <Nins> when u banned someone
17:53:00 <Nins> lol
17:54:00 <linying> Nins: The lad has his moments...
17:55:00 <Nins> hahah lad
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18:00:00 <clay> im laways banning
18:00:00 <linying> ...mmmmmm....
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18:01:00 <Nins> as if ur always banning clay
18:01:00 <KorgBoy> yo! is that glen ?
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18:01:00 <Nins> ur another soft ****
18:01:00 <Nins> lool
18:01:00 * linying blinks...
18:01:00 <Nins> hey KOrg
18:01:00 <linying> hi KorgBoy
18:01:00 <KorgBoy> yo! nins!
18:01:00 <KorgBoy> hi there linying!
18:01:00 <Nins> hows work and U S A <------ 666 nation
18:02:00 <KorgBoy> nins .. works been pretty good thanks! :) just got back from australia a few days ago hehehe
18:02:00 <KorgBoy> nins ..how things over there too ? :)
18:02:00 <Nins> u were here?~??
18:02:00 <Nins> hahaha getting HOT
18:02:00 <KorgBoy> well, work is great..but some weird things going on in washington and columbia state..some weirdo sniper is going around shooting folks
18:02:00 <Nins> LOL!
18:02:00 <KorgBoy> nins .. wow..i see! .. wow.. keep cool there. yah..i was in townsville hehehe
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18:03:00 <Nins|cs> cs time :D
18:03:00 <clay> lol
18:03:00 <clay> yeah
18:03:00 <KorgBoy> you heard about that sniper ?
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18:04:00 <linying> back so soon usablackguy?
18:04:00 <Nins|cs> optus #5
18:04:00 <linying> ...in the channel usablackguy...
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