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01:10:00 <HellFury> mp3 [a: backstreet boys 2005 - never gone / s: safest place to hide] [4m41s/205kbps]
11:58:00 <HellFury> away [r: afk]
14:50:00 <HellFury> this needs to stay in here
14:51:00 <HellFury> this means all of you
14:51:00 <HellFury> not just one person
14:51:00 <HellFury> chook had a schitzophrenic episode
14:51:00 <HellFury> my friend had to call the cops and ambos
14:52:00 <HellFury> hes been taken to hospital for assessment
14:54:00 <Devil45> chook had a panic attack?
14:54:00 <HellFury> no
14:54:00 <HellFury> he had a full on skitzo melt down
14:54:00 <HellFury> like tisk does
14:55:00 <Devil45> but tisk has one every minute of every day
14:55:00 <Devil45> due to alcohol
14:55:00 <HellFury> from what james just told me
14:55:00 <HellFury> he hasn't been taking any of his meds
14:55:00 <HellFury> theres no scripts or boxes or bottles
14:55:00 <HellFury> its been a year
14:56:00 <Devil45> no wonder chook had a meltdown
14:57:00 <HellFury> i just need it to stay here
14:57:00 <HellFury> this means you Jules please
14:57:00 <Devil45> as above
14:57:00 <HellFury> coz its a sensitive issue
14:57:00 <Devil45> hey i like chook
14:57:00 <Devil45> it saddens me to hear it
14:57:00 <HellFury> so James knowing i know chook really well rang me at 10 am
14:58:00 <Devil45> quietly thank your friend for the info - and mums the word for now
14:58:00 <HellFury> by 12 he rang back to tell me chooks now gone off to be assessed
15:03:00 <Devil45> im not sure who sangochan is
15:03:00 <Devil45> but hes in nerdhacks so i booted him out of the melb and aus rooms
15:04:00 <Devil45> SangoChan on #melbourne #nerdhacks #sydney #chatzone #Australia #perth
15:04:00 <Devil45> ^ that was before i kicked him out of aus ;p
15:04:00 <HellFury> 2:02p (SangoChan) LOL
15:04:00 <HellFury> 2:02p (SangoChan) couleurs likes shit games
15:04:00 <HellFury> 2:02p (SangoChan) minecraft faggot and fifa faggot
15:05:00 <HellFury> guess you did right in banning
15:05:00 <Devil45> minecraft?
15:05:00 <Devil45> no one plays that now
15:06:00 <Devil45> and what does sango play? farmville probably
15:09:00 <Devil45> i like the fpart i did - no nerdhacks :)
15:09:00 <HellFury> not sure
15:10:00 <Devil45> that new 4 gb graphics card i got a month or so ago is in the win 8.1 rig. the original card is now in this pc.
15:11:00 <Devil45> makes youtube videos smoother
16:25:00 <HellFury> back [r: afk] [4h26m31s]
16:30:00 <Devil45> [15:59] * Lumeah1 ([email protected]) has joined #chatzone <- same host as sangochan
16:33:00 <Devil45> if he thinks changing nicks is going to get him past a ban hes got another think coming
16:33:00 <HellFury> yeh
16:35:00 <Devil45> im glad i reported that imgur post
16:53:00 <HellFury> away [r: afk]
17:29:00 <Devil45> silvical is [email protected] * ... <- bot?
17:32:00 <Lwaxana> ummm
17:52:00 <Jules> Of Course it stays here ... here is our santurary!!!! HellFury!!!!!!
17:53:00 <Jules> Please give my love too Tim!!
17:55:00 <Devil45> its like community forums - the rule is 'never discuss mod business with regular users'
17:55:00 <Devil45> well with this room - what happens in vegas stays in vegas
18:00:00 <Lwaxana> presenting to room full of people - no worrries, have my kids, mother and grandchild around for BBQ lunch - full of stress
18:05:00 <Devil45> ill leave the public speaking part to jim
19:36:00 <Jules> whilst carrying my puppy dog which she is actually 4 years old but still has a mind of her own ... i tumbled over some of dads timber steel things and have now banged up both of my knees
19:37:00 <Lwaxana> :(
19:41:00 <^bozojim> oh no
19:46:00 <HellFury> back [r: afk] [2h53m20s]
19:57:00 <ynnoB> that's no good Jules..
19:57:00 <ynnoB> hi everyone.. :)
20:35:00 <^bozojim> hello ynnoB
20:37:00 <ynnoB> hey ^bozojim... how are you>
20:37:00 <ynnoB> ?
22:14:00 <^bozojim> I am good thanks
22:14:00 <^bozojim> sorry I got distracted
22:14:00 <^bozojim> I got a call from the shed treasurer to look at something
22:15:00 <^bozojim> and it is done now
22:16:00 <ynnoB> oh cool.. :)
22:16:00 <ynnoB> busy man
22:16:00 <^bozojim> sort of
22:16:00 <^bozojim> president and treasurer dont want to do a lot so it falls on me
22:16:00 <ynnoB> lazy shits aren't they lol
22:17:00 <^bozojim> yes
22:17:00 <ynnoB> that's not fair on you tho
22:17:00 <^bozojim> but if I do it it is done before time right
22:17:00 <ynnoB> cool
22:17:00 <^bozojim> all my stuff is done early
22:17:00 <^bozojim> and teh reports I have to send in are always in at least a week early
22:17:00 <ynnoB> you love doing that stuff.. :)
22:18:00 <^bozojim> I have got use to doing it
22:18:00 <ynnoB> you're good.. :)
22:18:00 <^bozojim> I use to hate it
22:18:00 <ynnoB> yeah it would have been hard in the beginning
22:18:00 <^bozojim> when I go to Hobart tuesday for the day for an eye appointment
22:18:00 <^bozojim> I am taking the laptop and doing up a funding proposal
22:18:00 <ynnoB> do you live in tasmania?
22:19:00 <ynnoB> cool
22:19:00 <^bozojim> yes I do
22:19:00 <^bozojim> on the wild west coast
22:19:00 <ynnoB> oh cool.. I didn't know that.. :)
22:19:00 <ynnoB> nice
22:19:00 <^bozojim> I have been in Tassie almost 4 years now
22:19:00 <ynnoB> they should make you secretary
22:19:00 <^bozojim> I am secretary
22:19:00 <ynnoB> cool.. where were you b4 then?
22:19:00 <ynnoB> ahhh there ya go.. hehe
22:19:00 <ynnoB> yeah secretaries usually do everything
22:20:00 <^bozojim> before that i spent 8 and a half years in victoria
22:20:00 <ynnoB> yeah I'm in victoria
22:20:00 <ynnoB> atm I'm in horsham
22:20:00 <ynnoB> for work
22:20:00 <^bozojim> I spent most of the time in Wangaratta
22:20:00 <^bozojim> nice
22:20:00 <^bozojim> then moved to Pakenham
22:20:00 <ynnoB> I've been there a couple of times
22:20:00 <^bozojim> now here
22:20:00 <ynnoB> you have moved alot..hehe
22:20:00 <^bozojim> I have
22:21:00 <^bozojim> I got kicked out of my unit in Wang by VCAT to have the owner sell it vacant possession
22:22:00 <^bozojim> and ended up in pakenham with my uncle and aunt
22:22:00 <^bozojim> then got work ehre in mental health working witha client
22:23:00 <^bozojim> and lost it as the client went into fulltime care with early onset alzheimers and dementia
22:23:00 <ynnoB> yeah my dad has dementia.. it's not easy living with him
22:24:00 <^bozojim> it is not
22:24:00 <ynnoB> like you try to talk to him and he abuses you back
22:24:00 <ynnoB> so I have given up talking to him
22:24:00 <^bozojim> and now I am here in Queenstown working with the mens shed the quilting group, pottery studio and a disability support group
22:24:00 <ynnoB> nice.. :)
22:25:00 <^bozojim> yes I know a lot like that
22:25:00 <ynnoB> that would keep you busy
22:25:00 <^bozojim> it does
22:25:00 <ynnoB> that's a good thing
22:25:00 <^bozojim> and I am out 6 days a week at tehm
22:25:00 <ynnoB> cool
22:25:00 <^bozojim> and have to take tuesday off mens shed to go for an eye appointment
22:25:00 <ynnoB> of course..
22:25:00 <^bozojim> they dont like it but understand
22:25:00 <ynnoB> doctor appts are important
22:26:00 <^bozojim> as I try to avoid conflicting as much as I can
22:26:00 <ynnoB> too bad if they don't like it.. your health is more important
22:26:00 <^bozojim> and was told if I need to take a shed day off take it
22:26:00 <ynnoB> ok cool
22:26:00 <^bozojim> they have given up trying to get my sight back as it is gone
22:26:00 <ynnoB> :(
22:26:00 <^bozojim> but are trying to save me from getting my eye removed
22:26:00 <ynnoB> is it totally gone>
22:26:00 <ynnoB> ?
22:26:00 <^bozojim> it is ok
22:27:00 <^bozojim> I see just light and dark
22:27:00 <^bozojim> light is like sunset
22:27:00 <^bozojim> nothing usable at all
22:27:00 <ynnoB> what exactly is wrong with your eye that are trying to save you from removing it?
22:27:00 <ynnoB> k
22:27:00 <^bozojim> it is primary open angle glaucoma
22:27:00 <^bozojim> which is rearing its ugly head
22:27:00 <ynnoB> both eyes eh?
22:28:00 <ynnoB> *hugz*
22:28:00 <^bozojim> and that destroyed my left eye when i lost the sight in it
22:28:00 <ynnoB> yeah
22:28:00 <^bozojim> left eye has been artificial for the last 32 and a half years
22:28:00 <ynnoB> wow long time
22:28:00 <^bozojim> yes
22:28:00 <ynnoB> how old are you?
22:28:00 <^bozojim> when I had a bit I was a one eyed supporter with tunnel vision
22:28:00 <^bozojim> I am 53
22:29:00 <ynnoB> you're my age
22:29:00 <ynnoB> I'm turning 53 in december
22:29:00 <^bozojim> I turned 53 in July
22:29:00 <ynnoB> so you're older than me by 4 months.. :)
22:29:00 <^bozojim> yes
22:29:00 <ynnoB> cool
22:30:00 <^bozojim> monday it is seniors week and I am demonstrating quilting at the library
22:30:00 <ynnoB> nice
22:30:00 <^bozojim> blind man competent quilter demonstrating how with what I have I cna do it
22:30:00 <ynnoB> that's right.. that's really good
22:30:00 <ynnoB> I admire you for that
22:31:00 <^bozojim> and my quilt will be on show
22:31:00 <^bozojim> ty
22:31:00 <ynnoB> nice
22:31:00 <ynnoB> yw
22:31:00 <^bozojim> blush
22:31:00 <ynnoB> lol
22:31:00 <ynnoB> no need to blush
22:31:00 <^bozojim> and I am doing a soft bodied clown for an exibition in a week
22:32:00 <ynnoB> hehehe that's why cool
22:32:00 <^bozojim> it comes out teh kiln from bisque firing tomorrow
22:32:00 <ynnoB> but clowns are scarey
22:32:00 <^bozojim> and I have to get it glazed tomorrow to get fired
22:32:00 <^bozojim> this one will not be
22:32:00 <^bozojim> my own design
22:32:00 <^bozojim> and I get it refired
22:32:00 <ynnoB> cool
22:32:00 <^bozojim> get it here
22:33:00 <^bozojim> put the soft body on it
22:33:00 <^bozojim> do a set of clothes for it
22:33:00 <^bozojim> and get it on display in a week
22:33:00 <^bozojim> with its own lap quilt I am making
22:33:00 <ynnoB> that's a lot of work
22:33:00 <ynnoB> nice
22:33:00 <^bozojim> yes it is
22:33:00 <^bozojim> and I hope on its own chair
22:34:00 <ynnoB> wow
22:34:00 <^bozojim> I have a lot of work ahead of me in a week
22:34:00 <ynnoB> sounds like it
22:34:00 <^bozojim> it will be a few all nighters
22:34:00 <ynnoB> hehehe
22:35:00 <^bozojim> i have got teh quilt out and the clown lap quilt ready to fo monday morning
22:35:00 <ynnoB> oh good
22:35:00 <^bozojim> the sandwiching will be part of teh demonstration monday and I will pin it
22:35:00 <ynnoB> :)
22:35:00 <^bozojim> top wadding and backing
22:36:00 <ynnoB> I'm hopeless when it comes to stuff like that
22:36:00 <^bozojim> and I hope I get time next weekend to hand quilt it together
22:36:00 <^bozojim> being blind it is fun
22:36:00 <ynnoB> fingers crossed
22:36:00 <ynnoB> glad you enjoy it.. :)
22:36:00 <^bozojim> my fingers hate it as I look like my fingers have track marks in them
22:37:00 <ynnoB> it's important to like what you are doing.. helps pass the time too
22:37:00 <ynnoB> hehehe
22:37:00 <^bozojim> yes it does
22:37:00 <^bozojim> and if I get frustrated I take it out on the clay I use
22:37:00 <ynnoB> do you punch the clay?
22:37:00 <^bozojim> I wedge it
22:37:00 <ynnoB> lol
22:37:00 <ynnoB> good stuff
22:38:00 <^bozojim> where I slam it down on teh wedging table to mix it and get the air out
22:38:00 <ynnoB> cool
22:38:00 <ynnoB> so you slam it down hard
22:38:00 <^bozojim> there are 4 of us who do a lot there and we all do it
22:38:00 <^bozojim> yes
22:38:00 <ynnoB> good
22:38:00 <HellFury> me too eddie
22:38:00 <^bozojim> as it has air in it and it gets to 1000 degrees it explodes
22:38:00 <ynnoB> ahh there she is.. :)
22:38:00 <HellFury> he went off at the ambos and police
22:38:00 <^bozojim> oh no
22:38:00 <HellFury> they had to restrain and tie him down
22:39:00 <HellFury> hand cuffs
22:39:00 <^bozojim> yikes
22:39:00 <HellFury> then strap him
22:39:00 <HellFury> chook had a um psychotic episode today
22:39:00 <ynnoB> he is in good hands now
22:39:00 <HellFury> which resulted in ambos and cops being called
22:39:00 <^bozojim> like that is a major psych one
22:39:00 <HellFury> yeh i should know by monday
22:39:00 <ynnoB> it's terrifying having an episode and you're alone
22:40:00 <^bozojim> it is
22:40:00 <HellFury> ISDP said he was screaming abuse and going off big time
22:40:00 <ynnoB> poor guy
22:40:00 <eddie> I have to strap someone down before, so I well know what they go thru.. esp when they stop taking medications
22:40:00 <ynnoB> yeah
22:40:00 <HellFury> then when then got worse when he saw the straps and hand cuffs
22:40:00 <HellFury> ISDP said he hasn't been taking his meds
22:41:00 <^bozojim> oh no
22:41:00 <HellFury> so he stopped taken them when he got here
22:41:00 <ynnoB> that's why he had an episode
22:41:00 <^bozojim> yes
22:41:00 <HellFury> and hasn't been taking them since oct last year
22:41:00 <ynnoB> that long? wow
22:41:00 <ynnoB> that's like a year
22:41:00 <HellFury> yeh
22:41:00 <ynnoB> that's bad
22:41:00 <^bozojim> pressure build up
22:41:00 <HellFury> i had james go in his room check what meds he is on
22:41:00 <ynnoB> yup
22:41:00 <ynnoB> did he find them?
22:42:00 <HellFury> what meds
22:42:00 <HellFury> no scripts
22:42:00 <HellFury> no pill boxes
22:42:00 <HellFury> no bottles
22:42:00 <HellFury> nothing
22:42:00 <ynnoB> well yeah it's been a year
22:42:00 <HellFury> he checked the whole room
22:42:00 <^bozojim> and services did not pick it
22:42:00 <HellFury> he said no sign of any prescription being picked up
22:43:00 <ynnoB> what if the hospital got in contact with his psychiatrist? would that help>
22:43:00 <ynnoB> ?
22:43:00 <ynnoB> so he stopped taking his meds when he moved
22:43:00 <HellFury> he wasn't seeing one while in syd that i am aware of
22:43:00 <^bozojim> thats not good
22:44:00 <ynnoB> where was he getting his scripts from?
22:44:00 <HellFury> his dr
22:44:00 <ynnoB> do you know the name of the doctor?
22:44:00 <HellFury> but he never transferred all his details
22:44:00 <HellFury> nope
22:44:00 <ynnoB> bugger
22:44:00 <HellFury> and its gonna be hard now to get that when he is in hospital
22:44:00 <^bozojim> it will
22:44:00 <HellFury> unless i get ISDP to snoop through his stuff again
22:45:00 <ynnoB> the hospital could get in contact with his doctor to find out what meds he has been prescribed
22:45:00 <^bozojim> they should
22:45:00 <HellFury> and get his dr's files
22:45:00 <HellFury> he won't talk
22:45:00 <HellFury> not if he has been sedated
22:45:00 <ynnoB> yeah
22:45:00 <HellFury> which i think they had to do in the end
22:45:00 <HellFury> coz he was hysterical and screaming
22:45:00 <ynnoB> they usually do that with new patients
22:45:00 <HellFury> when the cops and ambos restrained him
22:46:00 <HellFury> ISDP said they had to handcuff him to the trolley before they could strap him down
22:46:00 <HellFury> he was getting off
22:47:00 <^bozojim> that in tiself is a can of worms
22:47:00 <HellFury> hes been going off though Jim
22:47:00 <^bozojim> yes true
22:47:00 <HellFury> he took his mood out on the sex chan and ops
22:47:00 <ynnoB> 1 year without meds is a long time.. I'm surprised he didn't have an episode sooner
22:47:00 <^bozojim> I am too
22:47:00 <HellFury> and then he ranted and raved under 3 of mu posts on fb
22:47:00 <HellFury> its been building up
22:48:00 <HellFury> he woluld do weird stuff
22:48:00 <HellFury> and then apologize
22:48:00 <ynnoB> ok
22:48:00 <^bozojim> I know down teh shed I have to be on teh lookout for that sort of thing
22:48:00 <HellFury> then the muttering outside
22:48:00 <ynnoB> yeah
22:48:00 <HellFury> laying on grass staring up at the sky talking just utter shit
22:48:00 <HellFury> then it was in the garage in his underwear
22:48:00 <^bozojim> I have done the mental health first aid course and my mental health training
22:48:00 <ynnoB> yeah his ranting made no sense
22:48:00 <HellFury> on wed when ISDP got home from work
22:49:00 <^bozojim> it is still not easy to pick
22:49:00 <ynnoB> no it's not
22:49:00 <^bozojim> some hide it well
22:49:00 <ynnoB> yup
22:49:00 <HellFury> then this morning it was laying in the middle of the road forcing cars go around him while throwing junk mail
22:49:00 <ynnoB> wow
22:49:00 <HellFury> and that was enough for ISDP to call the ambos and cops
22:49:00 <ynnoB> well forsure for chook's safety
22:50:00 <^bozojim> yes
22:50:00 <HellFury> yeh and well ISDPS
22:50:00 <^bozojim> should not have got to that stage
22:50:00 <ynnoB> no it shouldn't have
22:50:00 <HellFury> he felt bad
22:50:00 <HellFury> but he knew he needed the help
22:50:00 <HellFury> then he msged me on fb
22:50:00 <HellFury> he rarely fbs anymore
22:50:00 <ynnoB> of course he did.. it's not an easy thing to do to a friend
22:50:00 <^bozojim> it is not
22:50:00 <HellFury> but he couldn't remember my no so he msged me on fb
22:51:00 <ynnoB> k
22:51:00 <HellFury> i was in woolies when he rang me
22:51:00 <HellFury> i went outside and just sat head in hands thinking fuck i shoulda warned him about the schitzophrenia
22:51:00 <ynnoB> warn who? isdp?
22:51:00 <HellFury> yeh
22:52:00 <HellFury> and i forgot
22:52:00 <ynnoB> didn't he know?
22:52:00 <^bozojim> they should have seen it
22:52:00 <HellFury> no
22:52:00 <HellFury> not until i told him today
22:52:00 <ynnoB> oh I thought isdp knew chooks has schizophrenia?
22:52:00 <ynnoB> oh
22:52:00 <HellFury> he was literally omg what the hell
22:52:00 <ynnoB> well he knows now
22:52:00 <HellFury> then said i got a friend who has it
22:52:00 <HellFury> and has someone come out to help him
22:53:00 <ynnoB> good
22:53:00 <HellFury> so hes gonna do some ringing around monday and get someone to come out and help chook
22:53:00 <^bozojim> good
22:53:00 <ynnoB> yeah that's a good idea
22:53:00 <HellFury> he needs it
22:53:00 <ynnoB> yup
22:53:00 <^bozojim> he does
22:54:00 <ynnoB> if you didn't live too far you could have been there for him
22:54:00 <HellFury> and from what ISDP says theres no sign of any meds apart from what he takes for his bowel problems
22:54:00 <ynnoB> but you can still be there for him thru isdp
22:54:00 <ynnoB> does chooks have his phone with him?
22:54:00 <ynnoB> prolly not
22:55:00 <HellFury> no
22:55:00 <ynnoB> maybe when isdp visits him he can call you so you can talk to chooks?
22:55:00 <HellFury> all he has is the clothes on his back
22:55:00 <HellFury> no wallet no phone
22:55:00 <HellFury> nothing
22:55:00 <^bozojim> not sure if it would work as he would be sectioned as an involuntary patient
22:55:00 <ynnoB> yeah I remember you telling me that
22:56:00 <ynnoB> definitely, ^bozojim which is what I said.. that he would have been admitted as an involuntary patient
22:56:00 <^bozojim> yes
22:56:00 <HellFury> i reckon they would have him in isolation while trying to work out what meds he should be taking
22:56:00 <^bozojim> sorry I missed it
22:56:00 <HellFury> for his safety and others
22:56:00 <ynnoB> yes true, HellFury
22:56:00 <ynnoB> yup
22:56:00 <ynnoB> especially that they had to handcuff and strap him
22:56:00 <HellFury> coz once the sedative wears off and he remembers the fact he was strapped and hand cuffed
22:57:00 <ynnoB> during an episode a person can be very strong
22:57:00 <HellFury> it will trigger another episode
22:57:00 <HellFury> ISDP said he almost broke a cops arm that was restraining him in the bed
22:57:00 <ynnoB> wow
22:57:00 <HellFury> he grabbed and twisted hard
22:57:00 <HellFury> til the baton connected and he let go
22:57:00 <ynnoB> yes he wouldn't know his own strength
22:58:00 <HellFury> but it hit the stretcher side enough to make him let go
22:58:00 <^bozojim> plus if he was having a delusion or hallucination
22:59:00 <HellFury> he was having i think isdp said he was laying down in the middle of the road waiting for a car to hit him while throwing junk mail
22:59:00 <HellFury> yesterday it was laying in the garage naked
22:59:00 <HellFury> muttering to himself
22:59:00 <ynnoB> he would have been suicidal
22:59:00 <^bozojim> yes
22:59:00 <HellFury> day before he was outside muttering laying on grass with a knife
23:00:00 <HellFury> the neighbor came out to tell ISDP about it
23:00:00 <ynnoB> that is really extreme
23:00:00 <^bozojim> tis
23:00:00 <HellFury> i told him give him an ultimatium when he gets out
23:00:00 <HellFury> if and when he does
23:00:00 <HellFury> i think he will be in for a month
23:00:00 <ynnoB> yup
23:00:00 <ynnoB> minimum
23:00:00 <^bozojim> at least
23:01:00 <HellFury> get help
23:01:00 <HellFury> or you need to go
23:01:00 <^bozojim> stabilised aand sorted
23:01:00 <HellFury> but it was enough to scare the shit out of ISDP and he has mild aspies
23:01:00 <HellFury> so he was like first person to ring Jackie find out what he did when he was with me
23:01:00 <^bozojim> schizophrenia and autism are linked
23:01:00 <HellFury> its got me running scared
23:02:00 <^bozojim> one of the more common mental illnesses with it
23:02:00 <HellFury> i lived with John who was not this bad but he had his moments
23:02:00 <^bozojim> us aspies can
23:02:00 <^bozojim> teh small part of us without mental illness can have our moments with meltdown and shutdown
23:03:00 <HellFury> whats worrying for both ISDP and i is that if he happens to go into a psychotic episode while ISDP is at work and destroys something
23:03:00 <^bozojim> yes teh melties and shutdowns scare us too
23:03:00 <HellFury> then its not tim who is liable its ISDP
23:03:00 <^bozojim> yes
23:03:00 <HellFury> coz it's his house
23:04:00 <^bozojim> I am sort of lucky I have the SCARED plans to try to protect em from situations of stress leading to the point of no return to meltdowna nd shutdown
23:05:00 <^bozojim> and no it is not a psych episode it is me becoming non compliant and meltdowns I go into the fetal position crying
23:05:00 <^bozojim> and it rebalances my self
23:06:00 <^bozojim> takes 10 to 15 mins for me to get myself back together and going again when i do
23:11:00 <HellFury> :S
23:12:00 <ynnoB> it's good to see you have a plan when you go into a meltdown, ^bozojim.. :)
23:12:00 <^bozojim> it is
23:13:00 <^bozojim> and I have about 7 SCARED plans to avoid it
23:13:00 <ynnoB> good
23:13:00 <^bozojim> I have a folder and on a stick the plans
23:13:00 <^bozojim> and my GP has them
23:13:00 <ynnoB> cool
23:13:00 <^bozojim> and I follow them
23:13:00 <^bozojim> but as with all things I can ahve a sudden sensory or nervous system overload that can trigger a meltdown
23:13:00 <ynnoB> unfortunately when it comes to mental illness the only plan you can follow is calling your doctor
23:14:00 <^bozojim> the slow build ones i can jump on
23:14:00 <^bozojim> yes it is
23:14:00 <ynnoB> and they try and treat you without going into hospital
23:14:00 <^bozojim> thats it
23:14:00 <^bozojim> I am lucky there as I do not have a mental illness
23:14:00 <ynnoB> I know.. I have a mental illness
23:14:00 <^bozojim> or one they cna find
23:15:00 <^bozojim> I do have serapax tablets if i know I may get into a situation that could lead to meltdown to take the edge off the sensory and overload
23:16:00 <^bozojim> 15mg is enough to take the edge off it
23:16:00 <ynnoB> that is a very old medication
23:16:00 <^bozojim> 30mg makes me dopey
23:16:00 <^bozojim> yes and it works for me
23:16:00 <ynnoB> that's good
23:16:00 <^bozojim> in 2 years of having a bottle I have used less than half of them
23:16:00 <ynnoB> I used to be on epilim.. was weaned off it over 2 months ago.. now I'm being weaned off risperidone
23:17:00 <^bozojim> nice
23:17:00 <ynnoB> you better watch out the expiry date
23:17:00 <^bozojim> teh serapx i use so rarely I do not need to worry about weaning
23:17:00 <^bozojim> these are about to expire so I got a new bottle
23:18:00 <^bozojim> I also ahve a sensory tool kit to support me calming down
23:18:00 <ynnoB> well I used to be on tablets but now I get depot done once a fortnight so I don't need to be on tablets anymore.. just the depot once a fortnight
23:18:00 <ynnoB> cool
23:18:00 <^bozojim> depotprovera?
23:18:00 <ynnoB> no
23:18:00 <ynnoB> fluenthixol
23:18:00 <^bozojim> ok I am not familiar with that one
23:18:00 <^bozojim> sorry
23:18:00 <ynnoB> something like that.. it's an old one
23:19:00 <ynnoB> no need to be sorry
23:19:00 <^bozojim> ok
23:19:00 <^bozojim> teh sensory tool kit has MP3 player, stress ball, ear phones, s stretch thing, rough fabric, sun glasses
23:20:00 <ynnoB> cool
23:20:00 <^bozojim> and the tool kit goes with em everywhere
23:20:00 <^bozojim> as if I feel the stress signs i go to a quiet place and calm down
23:21:00 <ynnoB> yes stress is what triggers me off normally.. I've had to learn years ago how to avoid stress.. so my life is pretty low stress these days
23:21:00 <^bozojim> yes :)
23:21:00 <ynnoB> medication can only do so much.. I had to change my lifestyle to stay healthy
23:21:00 <^bozojim> true
23:21:00 <^bozojim> which is a lot better than any meds
23:21:00 <ynnoB> yup
23:22:00 <^bozojim> the lot I do stuff with know my SCARED plans and let me go if i need to
23:22:00 <ynnoB> it's been 7 years since I was last in hospital
23:22:00 <^bozojim> wow well done
23:22:00 <ynnoB> this has been the longest I've stayed out of hospital
23:22:00 <ynnoB> thanks.. :)
23:22:00 <^bozojim> and unfortunately meltdowns are a natural part of autistic life
23:23:00 <ynnoB> 7 years ago is when I started the depot and it has helped me a lot
23:23:00 <^bozojim> and i still get tehm despite all i do
23:23:00 <^bozojim> I am glad it has
23:23:00 <ynnoB> I get meltdowns too
23:23:00 <ynnoB> :)
23:23:00 <^bozojim> I try to get home so I can have a meltdown ehre
23:23:00 <^bozojim> and pick myself up
23:24:00 <^bozojim> Bart also can feel them coming on and gets me out if he needs to
23:24:00 <ynnoB> oh that's great
23:24:00 <^bozojim> he si both autism and guide dog in one
23:25:00 <^bozojim> I am not violent in meltdown or shutdown or a risk
23:25:00 <ynnoB> cool
23:25:00 <ynnoB> that's good
23:25:00 <^bozojim> they let me go, keep an eye on me and let me calm down
23:25:00 <^bozojim> as if they try to intervene it can retrigger it
23:25:00 <ynnoB> yes you need your space like that
23:26:00 <^bozojim> and Bart makes sure we are safe
23:26:00 <ynnoB> :)
23:26:00 <^bozojim> he knows my 'safe;' spots
23:27:00 <ynnoB> good dog
23:27:00 <^bozojim> he is
23:28:00 <ynnoB> what colour is he?
23:28:00 <^bozojim> the psychiatrist who reconfirmed my autism 2 and a half years ago said no mental illness
23:28:00 <^bozojim> or any medication he can give me
23:28:00 <ynnoB> good
23:28:00 <^bozojim> he is black
23:28:00 <^bozojim> and the serapax to take the edge off me
23:28:00 <ynnoB> nice.. he is a labrador?
23:29:00 <^bozojim> and admitted if I had to I could have a full tablet to calm me right down
23:29:00 <^bozojim> he is labrodor retriever cross
23:29:00 <ynnoB> nice.. :)
23:29:00 <^bozojim> ty HellFury
23:29:00 <HellFury> all good for you
23:30:00 <ynnoB> he can sure talk eh.. hehehe no wonder he always wins on the word count.. :)
23:30:00 <^bozojim> sorry
23:30:00 <HellFury> haha
23:30:00 <ynnoB> no need to shutup.. I enjoyed our chat
23:30:00 <^bozojim> as i did too
23:30:00 <HellFury> it gives me insight actually
23:30:00 <HellFury> stuff i can tell ISDP
23:30:00 <^bozojim> they are amazed how well i have a handle on my autism
23:31:00 <ynnoB> :)
23:31:00 <HellFury> but i just don't want people in melb or syd knowing
23:31:00 <ynnoB> like i do with my illness
23:31:00 <HellFury> or he will cop shit when he comes back
23:31:00 <^bozojim> yes
23:31:00 <ynnoB> yes true
23:31:00 <HellFury> and im looking at Jules for this
23:32:00 <^bozojim> and I am teaching others with autism how i deal with it
23:33:00 <^bozojim> giving them the keys but not the solutuons as the SCARED plans are very individual
23:33:00 <ynnoB> yes you are a huge inspiration.. :)
23:33:00 <^bozojim> ty
23:33:00 <^bozojim> blush
23:33:00 <ynnoB> you're welcomed
23:34:00 <ynnoB> I'm a huge inspirations to my friends for my weight loss
23:34:00 <^bozojim> :)
23:34:00 <ynnoB> I used to weight 133 kilos.. now I weight 87 kilos
23:34:00 <^bozojim> nice going
23:35:00 <ynnoB> thanks
23:39:00 <^bozojim> and tuesday I have embroidery to do as well
23:39:00 <ynnoB> busy man
23:39:00 <^bozojim> I am
23:40:00 <^bozojim> I am making an old fashioned fabric card
23:40:00 <^bozojim> embroidery, patchwork, some quilting
23:40:00 <ynnoB> what's a fabric card?
23:41:00 <^bozojim> instead of card as most are
23:41:00 <^bozojim> the card is made of fabric
23:41:00 <ynnoB> oh ok
23:41:00 <ynnoB> interesting
23:41:00 <^bozojim> the front is usually with heavy material with embroidery words and a design in the middle
23:41:00 <ynnoB> k
23:41:00 <^bozojim> sanwiched like a quilt
23:41:00 <^bozojim> and the words are on fabric pages
23:42:00 <ynnoB> cool
23:42:00 <^bozojim> and the back is quilted
23:42:00 <^bozojim> usually have 5 or more different stitches depending on the design
23:43:00 <ynnoB> ok and you use them for demo's?
23:43:00 <^bozojim> yes and I also send tehm at times
23:43:00 <ynnoB> cool
23:44:00 <^bozojim> at times I show them off down teh shed
23:44:00 <^bozojim> and do quilting down there
23:44:00 <ynnoB> nice
23:45:00 <^bozojim> i got to do handicrafts rather than tech studies at high school
23:45:00 <^bozojim> at the woodwork room I did embroidery in the corner
23:45:00 <^bozojim> and listened to what to do with wood
23:46:00 <^bozojim> and was able to do turning and woodwork from listening
23:46:00 <ynnoB> well done
23:46:00 <^bozojim> and in home ec
23:46:00 <^bozojim> we had to do a project so I made my first quilt
23:46:00 <ynnoB> you love quilting don't you?
23:47:00 <^bozojim> a nice single bed one
23:47:00 <^bozojim> yes i do
23:47:00 <^bozojim> and have made a lot of my own tools for quilting and pottery
23:47:00 <ynnoB> that would help tremendously
23:47:00 <^bozojim> it does
23:47:00 <^bozojim> plus having big hands I need bigger tools than normal
23:48:00 <ynnoB> oh ok
23:48:00 <^bozojim> so I design and make to suit these grat big hands
23:48:00 <^bozojim> I have an 11 inch hand span
23:48:00 <ynnoB> that's understandable
23:48:00 <HellFury> i thought jim jus said he has a 11 inch dick
23:48:00 <HellFury> *wipes eyes
23:48:00 <^bozojim> strong hands
23:48:00 <^bozojim> trust you
23:49:00 <^bozojim> yet gentle enough to do lace crochet
23:49:00 <HellFury> your dick crochets?
23:49:00 <^bozojim> no
23:49:00 <HellFury> id pay good money to see that
23:49:00 <HellFury> 20 cents
23:49:00 <^bozojim> lol
23:49:00 <HellFury> thats all i got atm
23:49:00 <ynnoB> you do crochet also?
23:50:00 <^bozojim> yes and knit
23:50:00 <ynnoB> you'd love this close friend I have.. she loves her crafts too.. she's teaching herself thru youtube to crochet
23:50:00 <^bozojim> nice
23:51:00 <^bozojim> my grandmother taught me to crochet
23:51:00 <ynnoB> :)
23:51:00 <^bozojim> and I am making myself a reverse cable scarf
23:51:00 <^bozojim> my old one wore out
23:51:00 <ynnoB> for next winter?
23:51:00 <^bozojim> teh 2 cables go in opposite directions
23:51:00 <^bozojim> yes
23:52:00 <ynnoB> yes I know what you mean. :)
23:52:00 <^bozojim> using royal blue acrylic
23:52:00 <^bozojim> as it is easier to wash and dry than wool
23:53:00 <ynnoB> yes true
23:54:00 <^bozojim> it rains here on average 300 days a year
23:55:00 <^bozojim> and it si said when it does not rain they send a steam loco on teh west coas wilderness railway into the rain forest with 3000 litres of water an the steam waters it
23:55:00 <ynnoB> yeah tassie is colder than vic
23:55:00 <^bozojim> it is
23:55:00 <^bozojim> and we have a lot of rain here
23:55:00 <^bozojim> off teh southern ocean and we have a lot of hydro power generation
23:55:00 <ynnoB> didn't realise you get that much rain
23:55:00 <^bozojim> we get 3450m a year rain
23:56:00 <^bozojim> 3.450m
23:56:00 <ynnoB> that's a lot but it's a good thing.. we need water
23:56:00 <^bozojim> we do
23:57:00 <^bozojim> plus we get snow in winter
23:57:00 <ynnoB> we have to travel to find snow lol
23:57:00 <^bozojim> lol
23:57:00 <ynnoB> I've never seen snow
23:57:00 <^bozojim> we get snowed in at times
23:57:00 <ynnoB> in real life that is
23:57:00 <^bozojim> I had my frist snow the day after I turned 50 here in 2014
23:57:00 <^bozojim> and I loved it'
23:58:00 <ynnoB> yeah I would love to see snow
23:58:00 <ynnoB> to see what the fascination is
23:58:00 <^bozojim> walking down Orr st in snow
23:58:00 <^bozojim> it is somethign different
23:58:00 <ynnoB> yeah