// #eevblog — 2025-08-14
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00:02:11 <electrohead> !coffee
00:02:11 * EEVBot slides a cup of joe to electrohead
00:02:45 * steve30 curls up around electrohead's coffee cup
00:03:07 * steve30 laps up the coffee :p
00:07:37 <electrohead> lol
00:07:40 <electrohead> hey :P
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03:08:20 <MrMobodies> https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/08/13/how-to-breathe-easier-with-hidden-carbon-cost-of-asthma-inhalers/
03:08:21 <EEVBot> [url] How to breathe easier with hidden carbon cost of asthma inhalers - Newsroom | newsroom.co.nz
03:08:42 <MrMobodies> " could reduce an individual’s carbon footprint by as much as switching to a plant-based diet"
03:09:20 <MrMobodies> Removing the propellant when needed by someone to reach their lungs can result in asthma attack and death
03:09:46 <MrMobodies> "switching to a plant based diet"... coming from a pharmacist.
03:11:01 <MrMobodies> when people switch to a plant based diet they are not at major risk
03:11:19 <MrMobodies> Is that called downplaying?
03:11:50 <MrMobodies> and I wonder how much commission did they make writing that article
03:13:19 <MrMobodies> "using cold washes"... rubbish: what about people with skin allergies? and mould build up in their machines.
03:14:52 <MrMobodies> in a different article she was award a "fellowship" for it
03:19:29 <MrMobodies> https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/1jbukqc/i_opened_up_my_daily_inhaler_to_see_what_was/
03:19:48 <MrMobodies> I didn't know they made them like that. Spring propelled inhaler.
03:23:56 <MrMobodies> oh it's not a spring, its the strip with the powder
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07:24:42 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/9IzM29V.jpeg
07:25:00 <MrMobodies> It only just dropped from 26.5c
07:25:18 <MrMobodies> but at 10p in the night
07:26:03 <MrMobodies> it is like hot daytime temperature that I'd use to find in the capital.
07:27:51 <MrMobodies> looks like they got it worse
07:27:52 <MrMobodies> https://famagusta-gazette.com/cyprus-nears-record-temperatures-as-heatwave-reaches-46c/
07:27:54 <EEVBot> [url] Cyprus nears record temperatures as heatwave reaches 46C – Famagusta Gazette | famagusta-gazette.com
07:28:13 <MrMobodies> I wonder how America is.
07:30:05 <MrMobodies> a simple DuckDuckgo shows it is 5pm now at 25c in New Yor and forecasted to be 27c at 11am so about the same
07:30:12 <MrMobodies> oops pm
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12:54:35 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/dNyd2O7.png
12:55:15 <MrMobodies> Internal antenna 5 bars: I was getting about 20mbps about a month ago with like 50ms latency
12:55:59 <MrMobodies> now it is like 70ms and speedtest.net dont' seem to do anything with that message on Google's speedtest
12:56:18 <MrMobodies> External antenna which runs to a big aerial in the roof gets 4 out of 5 bars
12:56:45 <MrMobodies> managed 15mbs down with 17mbps up (unusual) at 85ms
12:57:02 <MrMobodies> Paying more more more for a service that is becoming sh*ttier
12:57:29 <MrMobodies> every year the bill goes up by 4% linked to inflation a practice I heard they were going to put a stop to
13:00:47 <MrMobodies> Back in 2017 I was getting speeds of 40mbps on a 4g sim on an EE Odysey pocket modem thing
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13:01:54 <MrMobodies> in 2018 I'd get between 20mbps (2 bars) to 40mbps (3+ bars) on the E5172 in a chicken coop in the middle of nowhere and that was a Payg sim.
13:01:55 <Nothing\> allo mes amis, comme?
13:02:13 <MrMobodies> but this is an absolute joke
13:02:14 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/dNyd2O7.png
13:02:23 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, what's a joke is chatgpt 5
13:02:26 <MrMobodies> 4 to 5 bars signal and crap service
13:02:27 <Nothing\> they neutered the damn thing
13:02:44 <MrMobodies> they "IMPROVED" the signal and masks around here recently
13:02:51 <MrMobodies> doing so they "improved" the signal
13:02:56 <Nothing\> lol that just means they fixed what's not broken
13:03:13 <Nothing\> which, ironically usually ends up with the opposite results
13:03:21 <MrMobodies> but the service whilst it improved a little the throughput and latency has no gone down hill retaining the 4 to 5 bars signal
13:03:32 <MrMobodies> oops not no *now I mean
13:03:54 <MrMobodies> I was getting CRAP signal in 2022 but getting more than this in performance
13:04:21 <Nothing\> the only signal issue i have with ANYTHING is my bluetooth headset cuts out when i have my head in the fridge lol
13:04:27 <Nothing\> or when i'm tossing a piss
13:04:41 <MrMobodies> all this government seems to care about is, "smart meters", "smart motorways", and now "digital ID"
13:04:57 <Nothing\> i guess 10 meters and 3 concrete walls plus a steel bath tub is too much to ask of bluetooth. PFFT
13:05:00 <MrMobodies> My bill for that 4g sim goes up by 4% every year
13:05:15 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, next year they'll have AI facial recognition on every CCTV
13:05:16 <MrMobodies> so it isn't being invested
13:05:28 <MrMobodies> I might have to think about wearing a mask
13:05:42 <Nothing\> i wonder how much that hampers them
13:05:56 <MrMobodies> I don't mind being tracked, if they put effort in identifying people FOR GOOD REASON
13:06:22 <MrMobodies> but for them to stick their head in everything I do, so it becomes easier to find fault on a trivial level just no
13:07:17 <MrMobodies> that face recognition was out about the late 2000's to 2010's an addon for the Dedicated Micro's CCTV recorder
13:07:38 <MrMobodies> to identify faces and upload matches, I was told that's all it does
13:07:47 <Nothing\> because it can still sort of see some of your facial dimensions, especially eye color, size, shape, distance apart, placement on face, and the general shape or placement at least of the nose. Especially if you have a picture of somebody's hand, you could actually use that to infer the dimensions of their face since your face is exactly 3 thumblengths long, 1 for your hairline to the top of your nose, 1 from the top of your no
13:07:47 <Nothing\> tip, and one from the very top of your upper lip to your chin
13:07:58 <Nothing\> it's pretyt crazy how universal these proportions are
13:07:59 <MrMobodies> and it was a simple python script addon that they charged a lot for
13:08:23 <Nothing\> your mouth is also 1 thumblength wide
13:08:38 <MrMobodies> I don't tend to think about my mouth unless I am in pain
13:08:43 <MrMobodies> and that is very rare
13:08:49 <Nothing\> my teeth are destroyed
13:08:52 <MrMobodies> and when I brush my teeth looking after it
13:08:57 <MrMobodies> oh
13:09:07 <Nothing\> i've been putting off the dentist for years because i'm gonna need dentures when i'm done
13:09:16 <MrMobodies> how did yo destroy yours
13:09:31 <MrMobodies> or didn't you get the treatment when needed
13:09:48 <MrMobodies> I thought healthcare was better in Canada than America
13:09:53 <Nothing\> shit genetics, a penchant for sweets, literal PTSD from multiple traumas at the dentist causing me poor habits, along with other contributing factors to said poor habits
13:09:59 <Nothing\> habits, hygiene, w/e
13:10:08 <Nothing\> i brush religiously now but it's too little too late
13:10:37 <MrMobodies> I heard of a study being down years ago
13:10:44 <Nothing\> i have at least 5 teeth broken off right to the gumline, it's literally just a hole lined with rotted out tooth
13:10:48 <MrMobodies> on growing real but artifical teeth
13:11:02 <MrMobodies> but for if you loose A tooth
13:11:15 <Nothing\> at least 3 abscesses on my gums that i can feel like food stuck between my teeth and lip
13:11:22 <MrMobodies> oh
13:11:26 <Nothing\> i have 5 other teeth that are abscessed
13:11:28 <MrMobodies> I remember you took the drugs
13:11:32 <Nothing\> that too
13:11:33 <MrMobodies> the opoid thing?
13:11:42 <MrMobodies> I know that can cause a lot of problems with bones too
13:11:43 <Nothing\> yeah that really caused me to be lax with my habits
13:11:48 <MrMobodies> what I was told
13:11:54 <Nothing\> plus they cause dry mouth which compounds the situation
13:12:06 <Nothing\> saliva cleanses the teeth, rinses food particles and carbohydrates away
13:12:14 <Nothing\> that's what causes so-called "meth mouth"
13:12:19 <MrMobodies> I just hope you look after yourself. I thought I was lacking
13:12:42 <Nothing\> i really hope i do, too. I honestly feel like i don't even have control over this.
13:13:30 <Nothing\> last month i thought i'd take a stab at it. I took literally FOURTY (40) sedative tablets (clonazepam) in hopes it would just get me so sedated i wouldn't give a shit just to make the appointment
13:13:36 <MrMobodies> I envy those who have great control over their lives and I don't realistically think I have a choice nor the means
13:13:46 <Nothing\> as soon as she said i could come in that day i locked up, lost my nerve and said i couldn't do it
13:13:59 <Nothing\> so i'm thinking if THAT sort of extreme won't even do it, what the hell will it take?
13:14:09 <MrMobodies> I don't want to end up paying a blood sucking VAMPIRE and then justify my existence to the government every 2 weeks for the housing money
13:14:18 <MrMobodies> oh I mean the landlords
13:14:21 <Nothing\> and i dunno if you've ever had an abscessed tooth, or known someone with one, but people have literally compared the pain to childbirth.
13:14:33 <MrMobodies> I do need a few fillings
13:14:38 <MrMobodies> no pain yet
13:14:45 <MrMobodies> my sister found one
13:15:03 <Nothing\> while i think that is a bit of an exageration, even after having one abscess swell so badly that it literally crushed a nerve (mental nerve) in my lower jaw to death
13:15:11 <MrMobodies> so I'll see, and I WILL pay privately for by negiotating a reasonable price with the dentist
13:15:20 <Nothing\> and dealt with multiple active abscesses at a time
13:15:26 <Nothing\> and it was maybe top 5 at best
13:15:29 <MrMobodies> understanding the NHS rips them off and claws back their funding
13:15:43 <Nothing\> NHS pays dental?
13:15:49 <Nothing\> do they pay pharmaceutical as well?
13:15:58 <Nothing\> or eye/earcare?
13:17:06 <Nothing\> Here, OHIP (ontario health insurance plan) only pays for medical, but there's a separate program called Trillium (Ontario's provincial flower) that will cover basic drug costs. And some dental programs for people under 25. Or pharm programs for seniors.
13:17:23 <Nothing\> but even if you're diabetic, you're fucked if you're a middle aged man
13:17:49 <Nothing\> actually i'm diabetic, have liver disease and had a stroke 10+ years ago. And I'm barely over 40 lol
13:18:08 <Nothing\> although i am doing quite well, considering
13:18:21 <Nothing\> except the beetus, that kinda went tits up
13:18:46 <Nothing\> i take 4x more insulin than my mum and she's been diabetic twice as long as me, and she's got 30 years on me.
13:19:47 <Nothing\> speaking of, choking down this schnitzel on a bun when i'm not hungry is getting hard. But that's one of the joys of insulin. Once you take it, you MUST eat or you WILL die.
13:19:52 <Nothing\> i'm not even kidding
13:20:21 <Nothing\> i mean maybe death isn't inevitable, but coma, seizure, shock, etc are if you don't take care of it
13:21:03 <Nothing\> actually before electroshock, doctors used to just load up a patient with an overdose of insulin to produce seizures that generate the same general effects of electroshock.
13:21:12 <MrMobodies> oh dear
13:21:27 <MrMobodies> my dad has diabetes
13:21:28 <Nothing\> which btw, electroshock is still used. When I was in the mental health ward in 2007 there was a girl there getting electroshock
13:21:41 <MrMobodies> even though he doesn't need to check
13:21:43 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, it runs heavily in my family, so I knew I'd get it.
13:21:47 <MrMobodies> he still checks his blood level
13:22:04 <MrMobodies> he was diagnosed
13:22:06 <Nothing\> I also took a medication (seroquel) suspected to cause or contribute to risk factors of diabetes
13:22:15 <MrMobodies> ooh that's not great if it is genetic
13:22:33 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, being on insulin i have a convenient constant glucose monitor
13:23:21 <Nothing\> it's just this plastic disc about 1in wide with a little "dipstick" that a needle threads about 4mm into your skin that constantly checks your sugar.
13:23:32 <MrMobodies> oh yes he got that
13:23:42 <Nothing\> yeah, it's a real gamechanger
13:24:20 <Nothing\> my fingertips used to be covered in dozens of little black pin prick marks. Although it's really not that bad. The worst part is squeezing the crap out of your finger when it doesn't want to bleed.
13:25:26 <Nothing\> and it's nice because the sedating nature of my meds means i don't feel it when my sugar goes low until it's way too late. The first symptoms are usually stuff like shaking, anxiety, fear, anger, flushing, sweats, so something that calms you down just masks that.
13:27:24 <Nothing\> actually, at least twice this week i was woken up by the alarm. I can just imagine if i kept sleeping until it got really bad
13:29:07 <Nothing\> i'm glad though. It was really hard to figure out just how much insulin to take. You sort of have to just feel it out. And one day you can take 10 units, for example, and it'll bring your sugar down 5 points, the next day you do the same amount, same meal, same everything, and your sugar goes UP 10 points. It's frustrating af.
13:29:32 <Nothing\> but i'm finally starting to sus it out
13:30:39 <Nothing\> as long as i eat exactly 1 schnitzel on a bun for breakfast, a hot crossed bun 2 hours later, a gigantic bowl of cereal for lunch, and 2 hot crossed buns for supper. Plus maybe one more before bed. lol
13:31:24 <Nothing\> ah all this just to shorten my life by 10 years instead of 20
13:34:47 <Nothing\> fucking hell, Nintendo increased the price of their games
13:35:32 <Nothing\> milkmilkmilkmilkmilk
13:36:29 * electrohead peeks in
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14:47:40 * Nothing\ noogies electrohead
14:54:09 <Nothing\> i keep getting ads in french
14:59:24 <Nothing\> I wonder what sort of experiments i can do with a 24g needle that don't involve poking myself
15:01:42 <Nothing\> OkayILoveYouBuhBye!
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15:32:26 <MrMobodies> I was looking at this scam
15:32:28 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/VL3dpes
15:32:37 <MrMobodies> and it seems quite frightening how they can trick the user
15:32:55 <MrMobodies> I mean for me
15:33:17 <MrMobodies> and how Facebook not vetting adverts for this has taken a leap back 20 years ago.
15:33:26 <MrMobodies> in putting their platform users at risk
15:34:03 <MrMobodies> it targets powershell I see
15:34:38 <MrMobodies> I reported it as abuse to their registrars and hosting.
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16:43:01 <K> hello wear patterns
16:46:40 <watcher> Hello K breakfast
16:46:54 <K> im watching you!
16:46:58 <K> (hello)
16:50:46 <krish2487> morning nice people..
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21:10:38 <steve30> i've just been to the library
21:10:49 <steve30> There were some leaflets advertising something in March 2024
21:11:12 <steve30> Fortunately there were some more up to date ones as well, advertising events in March to June 2025.
21:11:31 <steve30> Also they had last thursday's paper but not today's
21:24:01 <K> that library sounds somewhat discombobulated.
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23:30:38 <Nothing\> lol this article is ridiculous
23:31:59 <Nothing\> this article has a citrix engineer complaining or something because an atari 2600 beat ChatGPT at chess. Despite only running on a 1.04MHz CPU that did kiloflops of operations...
23:32:38 <Nothing\> and saying that even IBM's Deep Blue could beat the best chess players
23:32:49 <Nothing\> does he really not understand what's wrong with these comparisons?
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23:33:38 <Nothing\> it's like comparing the digging capability of a shovel vs a spoon. They look similar, but perform very different, and that's all it does
23:34:24 <Nothing\> plus, i was the one who originally discovered ChatGPT sucks at chess. I was on about it like a year ago.
23:34:40 <Nothing\> but now with 5, it can't even draw a proper board lol
23:35:34 <Nothing\> it's like a drunk person, I ask it to make a board and it makes this lopsided mess and I tell it what's wrong with it and it's all like "okay, I can do this now" then completely botches it
23:35:49 <Nothing\> it's not even fun retarded anymore
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