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39:41 <K> ah they let you keep your old plates?
39:46 <Ampera> no
39:51 <Ampera> uh
39:55 <Ampera> sorry misunderstood
40:02 <K> like the pieces of metal
40:02 <Ampera> we get issued a front/rear, you only need to surrender one of them
40:11 <K> i see.
40:14 <Ampera> I do not get to keep my old plates on my car
40:23 <K> can you transfer ?
40:24 <Ampera> the remaining one is just something I can keep if I want to
40:26 <Ampera> no
40:34 <Ampera> registration can be transferred between cars, not people
40:34 <K> i think i can be done here
40:49 <Ampera> so if my dad transferred it to a different car that'd work, but he can't transfer his registration to me
40:58 <K> i see.
54:50 <watcher> Here you plate will all ways keep to the car and you can change the name of the car onwer. the only way you can get new licenses plate if is yourre plates are stolen but you get a small number added to the plates.
55:11 <watcher> or you export the car and then import it back again.
55:47 <watcher> Maybe if you sell your car to the royal family it will yet a new license plate.
57:53 <Ampera> Here plates have absolutely nothing to do with who owns the car.
58:09 <Ampera> The person who owns the car does not have to be the person who registers it, and vice-versa.
58:37 <Ampera> I own the car, my dad registered it. He is surrendering his registration, and I am registering it in my name, and therefore will get my own plates.
58:43 <Ampera> the car never changed ownership/hands
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09:08 <DHess_US> Cannot stop laughing, https://imgur.com/gallery/FVuB0AH
09:08 <EEVBot> [url] Bounce - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
10:01 <Ampera> I love it
10:02 <K> haha
10:11 <K> i wonder what happens when that breaks
12:49 <DHess_US> Throw it away, and buy a new one.
15:14 <coppice> we've all seen cars in quiet lanes doing that
27:16 <MrMobodies> Hello
27:31 <watcher> Hello MrMobodies
28:28 <MrMobodies> someone got this cleaner to look at, they said it intermittently works. Took one look at the cord and worn. Plugged an sockt tester and the lights go on and off on cable movement
28:38 <MrMobodies> It has a socket on the left
28:43 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/E0teTzw.png
28:51 <MrMobodies> I opened it
28:52 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/FEnXWOf.png
29:08 <MrMobodies> Could I get away with using Wago strips when I put the new cord in?
29:18 <MrMobodies> instead of crimping it with those blade terminals
29:46 <Ampera> imo one crimp > wago+existing crimp
29:47 <MrMobodies> if I cut the cable before the crimp
30:00 <Ampera> especially with mains you want the fewest connections (especially mechanical) connections reasonable.
30:18 <Ampera> Even with existing strain relief, it's just better to have real spade connectors
30:26 <Ampera> at least that's the doctrine that's been told to me, ymmv
30:32 <MrMobodies> Looks like I an going to have to order a decent set
30:42 <MrMobodies> of blade terminals
30:53 <MrMobodies> I don't trust the ones I have
31:02 <Ampera> if it's you just need to bodge it and have it done now, then sure wago
31:08 <MrMobodies> I think it is rated at 1200w
31:16 <Ampera> the vacuum cleaner?
31:30 <MrMobodies> if she wants it back quick then I could do that temporarily
31:31 <MrMobodies> yes
31:36 <MrMobodies> an industrial one for like
31:39 <MrMobodies> sucking up plaster
31:47 <MrMobodies> for decrators
31:52 <MrMobodies> *decorators
32:08 <Ampera> imo I'd do it right still. 5A-ish isn't loads, and it'd probably be fine
32:26 <Ampera> What's wrong with the cable though?
32:34 <MrMobodies> Festool Cleantec ct15e
32:39 <Ampera> is it simply that the cable is worn beyond any use?
32:51 <MrMobodies> yes
32:55 <Ampera> right
33:08 <MrMobodies> so I plugged a live neutral and eart plug (led lit) on the plug on the unit
33:22 <Ampera> Those spade connectors are common enough that having the stuff to do it on hand is useful for repair, imo
33:22 <MrMobodies> and when you move the cable the lights go on and off
33:39 <MrMobodies> and cable just looks really twisted
34:08 <MrMobodies> I do have some spade connectors and terminals I might give it a go, test it and get my temperature gun out
34:16 <MrMobodies> so if it is loose then itd heat up and I'd know
34:39 <Ampera> Do not follow my subsequent advice, because I do not know what I am doing, BUT
35:16 <Ampera> what I've done in cases like this, at least with molex-type connectors (which are DC and lower voltage), is I just crimped it with a pair of pliers, and then dumped a bunch of solder over the connection for good measure.
35:32 <Ampera> this primarily works if your new cable is stranded, which is how they usually are
36:02 <Ampera> I'd almost be dempted to take a pair of pliers and gently pry up the original wires out of those spades, and just reuse them
36:04 <steve30> !coffee
36:04 * EEVBot pours coffee down steve30's throat
36:29 <Ampera> but as I said, there could be reasons I am unaware of why this would be a bad idea.
36:52 * Ampera pets steve30
36:54 <Ampera> <3
42:07 * watcher watch it and streams
42:54 <MrMobodies> parents are back from holiday just now
43:17 <MrMobodies> Ampera, that's a good idea.
43:48 <MrMobodies> back 2 decades ago, I use to find the molex connectors coming loose and the hard drives use to power down intermittently
44:09 <MrMobodies> but only seem to do it on the after market extenders
44:37 <MrMobodies> So I bent the connectors to make the really tight and they'd still come loose a year or so later
45:20 <MrMobodies> I suppose I could solder them in for safe measure and put an adhesive base/tie around the cable
45:29 <MrMobodies> with the blade terminal I mean
46:12 <Ampera> If you have good strain relief on the cord (which you must anyways) it's not a huge deal
46:55 <Ampera> soldering makes a better connection than mechanical and offers some mechanical stability of its own (though minor)
50:01 <MrMobodies> yes, especially with motor vibrations
50:23 <MrMobodies> I have some of that rubber cord somewhere on an extension at the local pub
50:50 <MrMobodies> One of them is on a wooden stand and the other loose
51:08 <MrMobodies> we use them for the disco lighting but they use to be under my desk in 2018
51:20 <MrMobodies> before I moved in late 2019
51:28 <MrMobodies> they are the 10 pdu sockets
51:54 <MrMobodies> I think they were 5m rubber cord cable pre fitted with a Permaplug
52:52 <MrMobodies> I do have some 16a cable here but it is just ordinary domestic cable and no flex and it will cause hinderance so not suitable
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09:06 <arch> why's this old fool not in a retirement home? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68248059
09:06 <EEVBot> [url] Joe Biden: Political grenade thrusts age into spotlight | www.bbc.com
09:29 <Ampera> arch, https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F6m8y03u4gehc1.png
09:29 <EEVBot> [url] Blocked | www.reddit.com
10:33 <arch> Ampera, facts... except that first one on the upper left corner. shitty anime. degenerates just want to see panty shots and incestual themes
10:44 <Ampera> isn't that all anime?
10:47 <arch> touche
15:42 <K> https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1755564575347380593
21:33 <coppice> even horses are now powered by fossil fuel
24:14 <K> not sure, but i might've watched the fullemtal alchemist one
24:23 <K> did not find it bad
24:44 <K> but maybe i fail at degeneracy, idk
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33:02 <arch> K, there was 2 versions of FMA. the 2003 version was not canon (ie not the same as the manga, the source of truth)
33:15 <K> ah
33:23 <K> not sure which one i watched then
35:59 <K> meanwhile also - https://www.instagram.com/p/CyAZDANLiK9/
36:30 <arch> that ethot site is blocked on my network
37:25 <K> uh not sure i can copy it anywhere else :/
25:58 <rust_collector> UNPOSSIBLES!
30:20 <K> PERKELE!
30:28 <rust_collector> hey!
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34:17 <Nothing\> hey, what sort of scale would i get that would record the peak weight automatically.
34:55 <Nothing\> i want to be able to press down on an object and measure the maximum force/weight applied before it gives, or to measure the weight necessary to compress a material.
35:37 <Nothing\> so I figure, just push on it with a scale that will record the peak. But most scales are meant for static loads, so they don't need that functionality. So, I'm not sure what I should be looking for.
35:43 <rust_collector> make it a project, and use a load cell and one of your arduinos, then just look up the highest value and have it print that?
35:54 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i totally could
36:03 <Nothing\> i have a load cell i'm doing nothing with, and some arduinos
36:06 <Nothing\> and a brain
36:07 <Nothing\> lol
36:24 <Nothing\> at least, that's what they tell me. I've never seen the dang thing.
36:46 <Nothing\> just once i'd like to see my own brain with my own eyes
37:18 <Nothing\> but yeah, that's a good idea. There's probably already code for it and everything.
37:24 <rust_collector> I dont believe you have a brain
37:30 <Nothing\> I just feel like a commercial product would be more accurate
37:49 <Nothing\> having a brain is probably the strangest experience in the world
38:03 <rust_collector> video, or it does not exist
38:14 <Nothing\> i'd prefer to have a series of ganglia spread throughout my body.
38:24 <Nothing\> lol i forgot about pics or it didn't happen
38:56 <Nothing\> lately i've been trying to bring back the old troll on youtube comments by posting on every video, regardless of content "fake, you can tell by the pixels"
38:57 <rust_collector> I think you would get it pretty accurate. you can also start with cheap little kitchen scale, maybe, to get the mechanical bits
39:43 <electrohead> Nothing\: just build up a wheatstone bridge circuit?
40:12 <Nothing\> electrohead, lol i never did figure out the math of those
40:26 <electrohead> it's not hard, whatsoever
40:29 <electrohead> !twss
40:30 <EEVBot> That's what she said!
40:43 <Nothing\> back when i started learning about electronics that was one of the things i meant to learn how to do, but they've got calculators to do that for you so i'd just forget it within a week anyways
41:07 <Nothing\> electrohead, lol yeah i imagine it's not. It's just one of those things i've always meant to look up, but for some reason haven't.
41:36 <remote> they most likely have calculators on line for https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/tunwheat.html too
41:36 <EEVBot> [url] Wheatstone Bridge Circuit | www.grc.nasa.gov
41:53 <Nothing\> remote, nasa's site pisses me off
41:58 <Nothing\> lol
41:59 <remote> lol
42:04 <remote> it was just first on search
42:09 <Nothing\> i can't find any good picture galleries on there
42:45 <remote> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/wheatstone-bridge-calculator/
42:46 <EEVBot> [url] Wheatstone Bridge Calculator - Engineering Calculators & Tools | www.allaboutcircuits.com
42:50 <Nothing\> i was trying to find galleries of high res space images from telescopes, hubble, or any of those probes they have around the outer planets, so I figure nasa's gallery would be perfect
42:56 <remote> um like second or third?
43:03 <electrohead> https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423f9433-ac7c-4966-b57b-3aa7dc25fd2f_930x718.png
43:39 <Nothing\> their gallery is pictures of everything BUT space, people working at a desk, people building something, people speaking at a lecturn. Not exactly what you expect from a NASA photo gallery.
44:19 <Nothing\> but yeah actually nasa has really good academic resources, being more serious
46:06 <Nothing\> i'm contemplating working towards buying every final fantasy game in the main series, aside from X and X-2.
46:32 <Nothing\> not too keen on the newer ones though
47:21 <Nothing\> ah the fruitless pursuit of happiness through material goods
48:39 <Nothing\> heh i was gonna get a heavy bag to let out my frustrations on, but after finding it was $400 with the stand, I gave up on the idea.
48:56 <Nothing\> then i found yesterday, just beating the crap out of a cushion with a big stick works just as well
49:17 <Nothing\> incredible workout, too. I was actually euphoric afterwards.
50:06 <Nothing\> you know, they probably have libraries for load cells for arduino already made
50:30 <rust_collector> try digging rectangular holes in the front lawn, that is also a good workout, and lets you get out some...stuff
50:33 <rust_collector> yeah, they do
50:34 <Nothing\> i think logistically, the hardest part will just be how to physically build it
50:44 <rust_collector> probably not at all
51:05 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol i've actually always wanted to do that. But, never owned my own land to do it with.
51:31 <rust_collector> should be fine, just put the dirt back, and plant your pentagram
51:33 <Nothing\> collectively moving several tons of dirt would be an amazing workout
51:43 <rust_collector> it is
51:44 <Nothing\> lol
51:54 <Nothing\> maybe i could get a job as a grave-digger
52:07 <rust_collector> that was one of my best jobs
52:19 <Nothing\> oh you actually did it?
52:32 <rust_collector> for about a year
52:53 <Nothing\> do they actually still just use a shovel? I'd imagine an excavator would desecrate every other grave nearby, so gotta do it by hand.
53:08 <Nothing\> But at the same time, you would expect they'd use some technology to speed it up
53:35 <Nothing\> and any time you see grave-diggers in popular culture, they're always just using a shovel
53:40 <rust_collector> nah, they had a mini-mini excavator, but most of the time, it was faster to just shovel it out. it was mostly sand there
53:50 <Nothing\> ah, like a cat
53:57 <Nothing\> that makes sense
54:18 <Nothing\> property management here uses similar machines for snow removal and general upkeep
54:43 <rust_collector> this one was stupid small. I think it was 900kg.
54:53 <Nothing\> not for actual digging, but similar things with different attachments
55:03 <Nothing\> oh wow
55:27 <Nothing\> i was going to say with the size, they would work on making electric cats like that
55:39 <rust_collector> electric cats....
55:40 <Nothing\> but i don't think an electric motor could produce that much torque to do the heavy lifting
55:48 <Nothing\> i imagine they have a pretty skookum engine
55:57 <rust_collector> they do make electric excavators
56:10 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i like to troll people by saying we need to develop electric rockets lol
56:21 <rust_collector> you are not wrong about that
56:39 <Nothing\> not electric spacecraft, we already have those, but actual electric rockets, or launch vehicles
56:44 <Nothing\> but preferably rockets
56:54 <rust_collector> electric motors are much much better at making torque than most other motors
57:05 <Nothing\> i mean, technically with enough power and power density, it would be possible
57:47 <rust_collector> waif is playing vanilla ice in the living room. it will either be a very short or a very long friday
57:54 <Nothing\> use an extreme version of one of those ionic lifters that creates airflow and lift by ionizing air. But they're so flimsy they can barely lift themselves, nevermind a power source and passengers.
58:08 <Nothing\> ouch
58:17 <Nothing\> that would drive me insane
58:26 <rust_collector> I like vanilla ice, lol
58:41 <Nothing\> lol my house is so quiet. I could hear my cat breathing from the next room over this morning in the bathroom
58:54 <rust_collector> it is fine, until she starts with that stupid country shit
58:58 <Nothing\> the loudest thing is my computer fan most of the time
59:10 <Nothing\> oh, you hate country, too?
59:25 <rust_collector> yep, country and reggae.
59:50 <Nothing\> i enjoy reggae if the mood strikes me, and if it's an actual reggae band speaking the jamaican creole
59:58 <Nothing\> real reggae is amazing
00:01 <rust_collector> nah, it is all horrible
01:30 <Nothing\> lol to each their own
01:43 <rust_collector> as long as it is not reggae and country, sure
01:50 <Nothing\> i'm open to most music, aside from country, and what I call the black arts
02:06 <rust_collector> reggae is black art
02:23 <Nothing\> which is basically any black music, r&b, hip hop, rap, that sorta thing. Which makes it ironic that I like Reggae but it's in a class of its own compared to those other genres.
02:38 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector i love that you knew exactly what i meant
02:58 <Nothing\> i dunno, it just all sounds the same to me
03:01 <Nothing\> and it's not music
03:06 <Nothing\> it's rhythmic talking
03:43 <rust_collector> mom used to be with a jamaican guitarist. I have heard enough. But I can enjoy some of the other rap and such stuff
03:44 <Nothing\> and most of it's about stupid shit anyways, gangs, bitches, drugs, money, bling
03:50 <Nothing\> which actually, country is the same
03:56 <Nothing\> always about the same things
04:14 <Nothing\> beer, women, trucks
04:23 <Nothing\> *women breaking their hearts
04:26 <rust_collector> yes, pickups drunk driving, and falling off bridges in your pickup
04:57 <rust_collector> I do not mind pickups, but the rest is not my thing
05:05 <Nothing\> I like traditional Indian music
05:19 <Nothing\> it's nice because it doesn't get stuck in my head
05:22 <rust_collector> there is so many kinds of that
05:28 <Nothing\> lol yeah there are
05:35 <Nothing\> something like Ravi Shankar
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06:04 <Nothing\> stuff with like
06:18 <Nothing\> a tabla and sitar, and i can't remember the other 2 he uses prominently
06:31 <rust_collector> text about satan, and winter and cold. good times
06:43 <Nothing\> lol couldn't even tell it's winter here
06:52 <Nothing\> we had snow on the ground for about 2 weeks
06:56 <Nothing\> heya Kuschelpony how's it going?
07:18 <Nothing\> ah gotta help with lunch sorry to dash
07:18 <rust_collector> not here either. it is like -6, and ice everywhere
07:21 <Nothing\> take care guys!
07:33 <Nothing\> thanks for the suggestion re: wheatstone bridge and load cell
07:54 <rust_collector> have fun, but only one
08:51 <Ampera> hey rust_collector
08:54 <Ampera> how are you doing
09:06 <Kuschelpony> hello Nothing
09:06 <Kuschelpony> currently sick, so not much brain capacity
09:54 <rust_collector> hola. today is pretty good. now waif has replaced vanilla ice with gunther
10:10 <Ampera> lol
10:32 <Ampera> rust_collector, what's your opinion on the ratcheting box wrench thingies that are so popular with the youngins these days?
10:33 <Kuschelpony> waiting foe the test result in 10 minutes
10:44 <Ampera> I bought a cheap set on sale from the harbor of freight the other day
10:52 <Ampera> (mostly because I happened to be there)
13:07 <rust_collector> well, other than quality issues, they can be very handy. they are usually a bit thicker, around the box end, so getting them into places can be tricky. Then you have some which you flip over, to go the other way, and some have the little lever, like most regular ratchets, which can be very nice, if you end up wedged up against something, and the bolt or whatever locks you into place.
13:22 <rust_collector> but, some times, they are great
20:51 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/1am1eq5/an_attempt_to_pass_on_the_shoulder_leads_to/
20:52 <EEVBot> [url] An attempt to pass on the shoulder leads to massive air [oc] : CrazyFuckingVideos | old.reddit.com
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21:30 <Ampera> I get pinged whenever steve uses that quit message
21:35 <Ampera> on my client I do anyways
21:52 <electrohead> I can see why :p
26:49 <arch> if i want to weld inside my wood frame garage, are there any precautions i should take? maybe add sheet metal as the siding instead of wall paneling?
27:22 <rust_collector> you can, or that... uhm, sheets of gypsum...things
27:35 <arch> drywall?
27:53 <rust_collector> I guess that is the word.
28:10 <arch> i need to empty out parts of the garage. i have a lot of junk from the cleanout of the house i did last year
28:45 <remote> if cash allows https://www.amazon.com/Westward-22RP05-Welding-Booth-0-014/dp/B07YVSR56V type of items
28:45 <EEVBot> [url] Amazon.com | www.amazon.com
28:46 <rust_collector> but, my garage is wood, and I never burnt it down much
30:29 <Kuschelpony> positive news: the test was negative
30:38 <rust_collector> for what?
31:27 <remote> or just buy the rolling panel type arch so you can pull it out only when needed
31:59 <rust_collector> or, just dont worry about it, and just avoid welding your walls
32:40 <arch> ok
33:03 <Kuschelpony> for the C
33:03 <rust_collector> but, avoid welding as the last thing in the evening, before you go inside
33:47 <rust_collector> these days, I am not sure what c they mean.
37:48 <Kuschelpony> Covid
39:17 <rust_collector> ah, ok, that is probably better than the other c, even if I am pretty positive to covid
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08:52 <electrohead> !beer steve30
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23:37 <rust_collector> you need a beer-can-cannon, almost like the potato ones, just... not quite
23:42 <steve30> :)
12:45 <electrohead> lol
27:06 <DogWomble> ok so i've now got a ticket to see the second Dune moivie
30:40 <rust_collector> ok
41:07 <Halcyon> Morning hazelnuts
56:54 * electrohead foods everyone
57:44 <rust_collector> hmm, I thought the cannibals were a bit further up in the mountains?
57:51 <electrohead> lol
37:13 <Halcyon> I'm going to the hardware store to buy shelving
37:28 <Halcyon> I need to tidy my computer room.
38:21 <Halcyon> electrohead I just sent you a photo. This is my task for the weekend. Sort that shit out
14:13 <electrohead> Sort the everythings \o/
17:08 <grem> Ampera
17:20 <Ampera> grem
17:28 <grem> nothing
17:30 <rust_collector> potato
17:42 <Ampera> I'm not nothing you're looking for Nothing\
18:11 <rust_collector> trve, you are...something
44:36 <electrohead> !towel
44:36 <EEVBot> NO YOU'RE A TOWEL
59:37 <Halcyon> I'm back, fuck this shelving unit is a heavy cunt
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53:26 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ-8v9yIBx0
53:27 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨Installing Five Rarely Used Vintage Operating Systems Rapidfire (ft. Cray mainframes)⁩ | 25m 13s | Channel: ⁨NCommander⁩ | 493 views | 2024-02-10 - 04:00:10 UTC
27:59 <steve30> hi
48:19 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
52:36 <steve30> i'm off to manchester this morning
05:09 <Halcyon> What's in Manchester Steve?
06:58 <steve30> A protest group who the far left have deemed 'far right', a far left counter protest mob, and probably lots of police
11:08 <steve30> also I just pooped myself again
11:17 <steve30> hopefully i won't get caught short when i go out
20:39 <steve30> i think my RODElink will come today, but i will be out
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38:59 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/randpaul/status/1755949402370269507
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