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00:00:02 <DHess_US> Sometimes Massachusetts cops follow them across and record license plates so they can try to get the Massachusetts shoppers with use taxes. They are suppose to pay taxes on stuff bought out of state.
00:00:42 <Ampera> that's the first time I've heard anybody trying to actively enforce use taxes ever
00:00:50 <Ampera> also lol what, they're supposed to pay double sales tax?
00:00:56 <DHess_US> If you do that, I recommend getting a ez-pass account and transponder for the toll roads and bridges.
00:01:08 <Ampera> I already have ezpass
00:01:14 <DHess_US> Costs like $45 or so. Oh, then you all set.
00:01:28 <DHess_US> Ampera, NH doesn't have a sales tax.
00:01:30 <Ampera> all of I-90 and I-87 south in NY is tolls
00:01:49 <Ampera> DHess_US, yeah but if you are a masshole, and buy something out of state with sales tax, does MA just expect you to pay double?
00:02:01 <DHess_US> Yea, I generally have my Garmin set to avoid toll roads, but NY had a bridge which is not properly marked.
00:02:25 <DHess_US> Ampera, no, then MA expects you to pay the difference if the tax was lower than the MA tax.
00:02:31 <Ampera> ah, gotcha
00:02:48 <Ampera> NY is probably similar, it mostly applies to online stuff, I don't know a single person who actually bothers to record that or deal with it
00:02:49 <DHess_US> So if it was 3% at the store, and MA was at 6%, MA expect you to pay a 3% use tax.
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00:02:55 <DHess_US> California does the same thing.
00:03:12 <DHess_US> Oh, there is mass noncompliance
00:03:33 <DHess_US> But sometimes they send someone across the state line to record license plates and try to enforce it.
00:03:39 <Ampera> I use toll roads a lot. NY actually doesn't have a lot of them upstate, but I happen to live right on a stretch of I-90 really useful for getting to Albany/Rensselaer
00:04:05 <DHess_US> NY has strategically placed toll roads and bridges such that you can't actually get to NH without hitting one.
00:04:27 <Ampera> depends on where you're coming from
00:04:35 <DHess_US> My pickup plates are still Missouri so I could sort of ignore them.
00:04:51 <Ampera> I don't think I know of a single upstate bridge that is tolld
00:04:53 <Ampera> tolled
00:04:57 <DHess_US> Hopefully getting my NH ID next week finally.
00:05:25 <DHess_US> If you avoid all of the toll roads coming north, then there is a bridge with a toll you have to use instead hidden away.
00:05:33 <Ampera> but from where
00:05:50 <DHess_US> From the south up through Fishkill NY to NH.
00:06:02 <Ampera> if you take 9W all the way up, you can just cross freely through I-90 in Albany
00:06:07 <DHess_US> I hit it twice before I figured it out.
00:06:18 <Ampera> or you can take NY-7 up to VT and go through there
00:06:32 <DHess_US> If you drive from the west through the forest and length of NY, then you can avoid them.
00:06:47 <Ampera> you can almost always avoid them
00:07:04 <Ampera> you'll get there slower, and likely burn more gas than the toll would've been worse
00:07:08 <Ampera> *worth
00:07:34 <Ampera> but that's a lot of places
00:08:18 <DHess_US> I think this is the bridge. If you go around it, then there is a different highway toll area. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Mountain_Bridge
00:08:18 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Bear Mountain Bridge | "The Bear Mountain Bridge, ceremonially named the Purple Heart Veterans Memorial Bridge, is a toll suspension bridge in New York State. It carries US 6 and US 202 across the Hudson River between Bear Mountain State Park in Orange County and Cortlandt in Westchester County. At completion in 1924 it was the longest suspension bridge in the world until this record was surpassed 19 months later by the Benjamin Franklin […]"
00:08:32 <Ampera> yeah go north
00:08:36 <Ampera> your mistake was going downstate
00:08:47 <Ampera> that is a catastrophic error under any cirucmstances
00:09:39 <DHess_US> If you take the northern route then you can avoid it, but you have to drive through the entire length of NY and the Allegheny forest.
00:09:42 <Ampera> You could've taken 9W up to a crossing more north that's toll free (eventually you get them)
00:09:53 <Ampera> you can also take I-88 and then cross through up north via NY-7
00:10:14 <DHess_US> I wanted to spend as little time in NY and NJ as possible because I was transporting guns and ammunition.
00:10:28 <Ampera> I-88 is abandoned, nobody would've touched you
00:10:28 <DHess_US> Not often that I commit thousands of felonies in a day, but I did.
00:10:43 <Ampera> and downstate is /way/ more dangerous for that
00:10:54 <DHess_US> But the path is so much shorter in NY.
00:11:08 <DHess_US> Don't even have to stop for gas.
00:11:11 <Ampera> I believe NY also grants certain exceptions for interstate transport of firearms
00:11:25 <Ampera> but I'm not sure how good they are, likely not very
00:11:36 <DHess_US> They don't. They ignore the federal law.
00:11:45 <DHess_US> They are suppose to, but they don't.
00:12:14 <DHess_US> I still have one or two more loads of stuff to get from Missouri.
00:12:30 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_York#Non-resident_travel_throughout_the_state
00:12:31 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Gun laws in New York - Non-resident travel throughout the state | "State law provides restricted exceptions for interstate transportation of firearms by non-residents. Non-residents may transport any lawful firearm through the state to any place outside of it where an individual may lawfully possess and carry such firearm. The firearm must be unloaded while in transit within the state. The firearm and any ammunition for it must not be […]"
00:12:33 <DHess_US> Upgrading my pickup to better handle eastern weather like fog and snow.
00:12:55 <DHess_US> Yea, that says one thing, but they will still prosecute you.
00:13:14 <Ampera> reality can for all purposes be different, but I recall reading this, and it's a state law
00:13:35 <Ampera> I wouldn't take it to the bank, but upstate troopers are probably a lot less concerned about something like that
00:13:53 <Ampera> they probably would start talking to you about their gun collection :P
00:15:15 <Ampera> that also being said, I've driven to almost every extent in NY, and have been stopped by the police once, on a local interstate bypass, for speeding
00:15:25 <Ampera> they didn't search me and just let me go on my way
00:16:20 <DHess_US> Still not something I chose to risk. Even if the court dismissed it, it would mean losing my guns and huge legal expenses.
00:16:28 <Ampera> for sure
00:16:44 <Ampera> fwiw I doubt you're doing anything wrong on paper
00:16:50 <DHess_US> And then I would have to go to war with NY.
00:17:09 <Ampera> even state courts are just completely different downstate
00:17:15 <Ampera> the attitudes are different
00:17:39 <Ampera> there is a massive massive upstate/downstate cultural divide, and we don't deal with a lot of the rossmann tier problems up here
00:17:54 <Ampera> if anything I've always found the NY government and local courts to be fairly painless to deal with
00:18:11 <Ampera> but that's because I'm always dealing with upstate judges, courts, representatives, and clerks
00:18:12 <DHess_US> Sure, but NYC is who makes the laws, like Chicago does for Illinois.
00:18:27 <Ampera> they might make the laws, but when you're upstate, we enforce our own laws
00:18:54 <DHess_US> Anyway, NY and NJ are places I avoid as much as possible, and MA also.
00:19:11 <Ampera> plenty of people are also not happy about downstate, and splitting the state is definitely a not-meme people genuinely consider
00:19:43 <DHess_US> Sure, but it will never happen just like it will not happen for Illinois or California.
00:19:58 <DHess_US> Rural voters who get no say provide more political power for the cities who get all of the say.
00:19:59 <Ampera> For my own personal life situation, growing up in NY has been a stroke of extreme luck.
00:20:24 <Ampera> I'm well aware
00:20:27 <DHess_US> Why would NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, and Los Angeles allow it?
00:20:36 <Ampera> I'm just telling you, things aren't as bad up here, despite NYC
00:20:47 <DHess_US> I already left California 20 years ago over it. Fuck them.
00:21:13 <Ampera> I also am not a gun owner, and have no plans to become one. I'm sure that I'd sing a different tune if I could say otherwise
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00:21:29 <DHess_US> I left a couple years after I worked election security and discovered how corrupt the voting system was in California.
00:21:31 <Ampera> NY offers me things that are important to my life that aren't important to yours, and vice versa
00:22:13 <DHess_US> After I get working again, I am going to buy so much guns. :)
00:22:36 <Ampera> yeet
00:22:56 <DHess_US> Thinking about an suppressed SBR AR15 in 300 blackout or 458 socom.
00:23:42 <Ampera> I have, different plans to where I plan to sink my money...
00:24:04 <DHess_US> It would be one of those guns that people ask, "WTF do you have that?"
00:24:29 <DHess_US> Eh, not a lot of money. I should get a newer vehicle with 4WD.
00:24:38 <Ampera> get a subuwu
00:24:40 <Ampera> become one of us
00:24:40 <DHess_US> Unfortunately my options are either Jeep or Toyota.
00:24:53 <DHess_US> Subaru doesn't make a manual transmission.
00:24:57 <Ampera> Jeeps are more compelling to me than I'd like to admit
00:25:07 <Ampera> DHess_US, they used to, because I have one, and I am sad they don't anymore q.q
00:25:14 <DHess_US> Yep, no more.
00:25:24 <Ampera> '22 Impreza, second to last year they had one
00:25:30 <Ampera> and I love mine <3
00:25:48 <LordGeir> Happy Sunday peeps <3
00:25:49 <coppice> Who is the patron saint of voting? Why, Jerry Mander, of course.
00:25:52 <Ampera> I hate to admit, because it looks and is fucking stupid, that tiny little jeep pickup is kinda interesting
00:26:12 <Ampera> you can get it with a V6, a stick, and space in the back to put camping stuff
00:26:13 <DHess_US> My on my last trip to Missouri parked in the Big Truck parking, with my tiny pickup, https://i.imgur.com/bQwJT8t.jpeg
00:26:23 <Ampera> hehehehe
00:26:40 <Ampera> that's just so cute :D
00:26:45 <steve30> !coffee
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00:26:58 <DHess_US> Literally tiny by todays standards. My pickup is 22 years old. They haven't made them that small since 2003.
00:27:09 <Ampera> yep
00:27:26 <Ampera> everyone wants a land yacht
00:27:33 <DHess_US> I'm replacing the front bumper with a steel one, that has tow hooks and spot and flog fog lights.
00:27:44 <Ampera> and not even the cool kind, with a bow and stern enough to strike an iceberg
00:27:46 <DHess_US> err, spot and flood
00:28:16 <Ampera> I need to do bodywork on my subuwu, because of some mistakes I made while learning
00:28:25 <DHess_US> I've driven through so much fog on the east coast and snow in general that I decided that I must have fog lights.
00:29:03 <Ampera> I have a rear dent in a really dumb spot, and I need to replace the entire front bumper cover and front skidflap
00:29:28 <Ampera> parts and work isn't too bad, I just don't want to know how much a paint shop will want to do the front bumper :/
00:30:14 <DHess_US> One reason I am replacing the front bumper is that the existing bumper cover is cracked from hitting snow.
00:31:06 <Ampera> mine is cracked from hitting a pole in my carport
00:31:15 <Ampera> which is the toll every prior resident in this house has had to pay for living here
00:31:20 <Ampera> that carport has eaten entire cars
00:31:32 <DHess_US> https://www.movebumpers.com/products/classic-front-bumper-kit
00:31:32 <EEVBot> [url] Classic Aftermarket Truck/SUV Front Bumper Kit – MOVE Bumpers | www.movebumpers.com
00:32:10 <Ampera> I think the parts are around 500-600 bucks, and the labor is free if I do it myself.
00:32:53 <Ampera> idk maybe I should just wrap the car, lol
00:33:08 <Ampera> admit that I am a dipshit who bought a subaru and go all out
00:49:29 <DHess_US> The bumper is a kit so I have to weld it together. I dusted off my 20 year old MIG welder and have been practicing.
00:49:45 <Ampera> mine is just clips, plastic pegs, and a bunch of bolts
00:50:04 <Ampera> It looks mostly fine, the main issue is that it's been cracked in half, and it's plastic
00:50:12 <Ampera> and there isn't a whole lot that can be easily done about that...
00:50:24 <DHess_US> Ordered a welding table which is on casters because the bumper is too heavy to move around easily.
00:50:46 <DHess_US> bumper is 1/4" steel, so I doubt it will crack.
00:50:49 <DHess_US> Or bend.
00:50:54 <DHess_US> And I could reinforce it.
00:51:08 <DHess_US> I have a pile of scrap 1/4" steel if I want to modify it.
00:51:40 <DHess_US> Almost bought a TIG welder to do it, but got my MIG welder working well enough.
00:52:23 <DHess_US> I am sad that the only two manual transmission pickups I can buy are toyota and Jeep.
00:55:01 <electrohead> Nothing wrong with toyota, my old toyota truck was a beast
00:55:25 <Ampera> tyoder
01:08:16 <electrohead> !caffeine
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01:08:22 <electrohead> lol
01:08:25 <Ampera> anal
01:08:27 * electrohead hugs Ampera
01:08:34 <Ampera> hey electrohead, how are you doing
01:08:49 <electrohead> yeah decent, hanging out, working on stuff
01:09:08 <electrohead> probably going to finish up some PBX stuff soon, then onto a project I have been wanting to start for a long time, now
01:10:50 <electrohead> how you doing and things?
01:14:13 <Ampera> date yesterday wasn't the best
01:14:18 <Ampera> was more of a learning experience...
01:18:03 <Ysjoelfir> why that? what hjappened?
01:18:21 <Ampera> long story, lol
01:18:37 <Ampera> they were very clingy, went very fast, and kinda were, uh
01:18:40 <Ampera> a bit juvenile
01:18:59 <steve30> is this the same person as the other week, or someone different?
01:18:59 <Ampera> a really nice and honest person, just not for me
01:19:03 <Ampera> steve30, different
01:19:11 <Ampera> last saturday kinda hasn't been messaging me back
01:21:46 <steve30> :(
01:22:20 <steve30> if it is any consolation, i still haven't found a boyfriend
01:22:26 <Ampera> I'm not worried
01:22:46 <Ampera> in the two days that I've been dealing with this person just now, another 100 people want to match with me on bumble
01:22:56 <Ampera> I've only been trying for like a week and a half
01:23:02 <Ampera> and I've already got another guy who seems nice
01:26:29 <electrohead> !coffee Ysjoelfir and steve30
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01:26:51 <Ysjoelfir> !caffeine
01:26:52 * EEVBot shoves an energy drink up Ysjoelfir's ass
01:26:55 <Ysjoelfir> !caffeine
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01:26:56 <Ysjoelfir> !caffeine
01:26:57 * EEVBot forces caffeine into Ysjoelfir
01:26:59 <Ysjoelfir> !caffeine
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01:27:01 <Ysjoelfir> better
01:27:43 <electrohead> much, lol
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04:13:16 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead when he spins really fast
04:27:46 <electrohead> Lol
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04:32:03 <Ysjoelfir> like a record?
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04:38:53 <electrohead> baby, right round
04:38:55 <electrohead> lol
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04:42:57 <DHess_US> <electrohead> Nothing wrong with toyota, my old toyota truck was a beast
04:43:04 <DHess_US> Maybe
04:43:52 <DHess_US> I would have preferred a Toyota back in 2002 when I bought my pickup, but things did not work out that way. My GMC worked out well enough though and is still going strong.
04:44:22 <DHess_US> adaptive cruise control and lane steering would be nice for long drives.
04:45:40 <DHess_US> It is actually kind of amazing that everything still works on my 2002 pickup. The evaporator for the air conditioning has a leak though.
04:45:57 <DHess_US> So the next major repair will be the air conditioning.
04:55:48 <coppice> DHess_US: adaptive cruise and lane keeping varies a lot between makes, but the implementation I have really lets you relax a lot more on long drives
04:56:31 <DHess_US> I know the Toyota has adaptive cruise, but I'm not sure about lane following.
04:56:47 <DHess_US> And I don't know about the jeep at all because their online selector is bad.
04:56:59 <coppice> everyone offers it to some extent now. Its becoming a requirement around the world
05:04:30 <electrohead> Well, my old truck was a 1990 extended cab, loved that thing
05:05:52 <coppice> the US love of trucks feels like a longing to be snails
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05:25:43 <rust_collector_> just dont buy a jeep, unless you want an old xj, to go off road in
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05:48:11 <remote> never owned a jeep myself yet I have pulled one out of a mud hole before with my old suburban
05:50:06 <rust_collector> they are just getting worse and less jeepy.
05:50:57 <rust_collector> still a chrysler, even if it is a lot of fiat now, so they are more complicated and fragile. But just being a chrysler should be enough reason to stay away
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07:34:43 <Kuschelpony> und nochmal
07:35:29 <rust_collector> yes, come on, 3-4 more times, lol
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11:06:23 <MrMobodies> When I see an article from Which? I normally see part of it featured by a signin/paywall
11:06:26 <MrMobodies> https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/smart-meters/article/smart-meters-explained/smart-meter-roll-out-aQJZI0B2Jose
11:06:27 <EEVBot> [url] Smart Meter Roll Out Explained - Which? | www.which.co.uk
11:06:33 <MrMobodies> Updated: 30 Jan 2024
11:06:56 <MrMobodies> They way the writer speaks of it
11:07:11 <MrMobodies> "Smart meters are being rolled out because, if used correctly, they can make money and carbon savings for you, your energy company, and the wider energy system."
11:07:34 <MrMobodies> When people come home work, tired out and have to do housework, cook and so on
11:08:05 <MrMobodies> do you think they'll have time or energy to look into detail
11:08:29 <MrMobodies> "For you, a smart meter is the means to get in-depth information about your energy use – for example, how much you’re spending on running your vacuum cleaner or an old freezer. You can use this to be more efficient at home."
11:08:49 <MrMobodies> Utter bullshit: I can do that already, they are called clamp meters/home monitors
11:09:15 <MrMobodies> it does not need a phone, stupid app and 2 readings an hour to some server half way around the world
11:09:45 <MrMobodies> When I turned on my vacuum cleaner, for like a minute, do they obviously think that is going to matter?
11:11:03 <MrMobodies> "They are part of creating a *smarter* energy system and send information on how much gas and electricity you're using to your supplier." So Smarter is more important than the privacy element.
11:11:30 <MrMobodies> I was at this warehouse in 2010, it had this large meter that had this wire going into a telephone socket
11:14:38 <MrMobodies> Was that called smart?
11:14:39 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/U7Of1Pd.jpeg
11:14:40 <MrMobodies> No
11:15:56 <MrMobodies> "However, in recent years energy companies have been fitting second-generation smart meters (SMETS2), which do not have these issues."
11:17:23 <MrMobodies> The violin man across the road had 3x SMETS2 meters fail this year in commuication where they had to replace them. As a business and they decided this time not to give him a monitor. Which he means has to use a step ladder to check it. No app or anything.
11:17:36 <MrMobodies> oops late last year I mean
11:19:00 <MrMobodies> I prefer a flat rate with security
11:19:53 <MrMobodies> for these "smart" tarrifs where the prices could suddently go down or up, I wonder, are they really in control?
11:22:58 <MrMobodies> my dad wanted to go for one of these tarrifs last year, Agile I think, year the solar panels were fitted and Octopus told him it could go between 50p to 70p depending on which times of the day and the prices could suddenly change
11:23:38 <MrMobodies> but there was a period for 4 hours 1 - 5am in the morning where it was 4p per kwh for the purposes of charging the batteries.
11:24:18 <MrMobodies> in the winter on a series of dark days I could see that costing so much more
11:25:29 <MrMobodies> https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/octopus-energy-issues-warning-customers-28539774
11:25:29 <EEVBot> [url] Octopus Energy issues warning to customers and says situation's 'so bad' - Birmingham Live | www.birminghammail.co.uk
11:27:22 <MrMobodies> Any company who resorts to bullying and harassment to try and sell a product as a result of being whiplashed (fined) by the government I do not trust and think they may be up to no good.
11:27:28 <MrMobodies> What do you think?
11:55:26 <broccoli> MrMobodies, its 12v and 24v batteries with an appropriate charger (120vac feed)
11:55:26 <broccoli> customers like it because everything is battery backup instead of just the one radio required by the coast guard
11:55:26 <MrMobodies> redundancy, that's nic
11:55:26 <MrMobodies> *nice
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11:55:26 <Blackdog> Mmm, my IRC client has a life of its own....
11:55:26 <Blackdog> Tomorrow let's figure out how to get things stable.
11:55:26 <electrohead> ZNC.
11:55:26 <broccoli> Thelounge rules tbh but a third party host is best
11:55:26 <broccoli> The dev gave me a free login so thats nice
11:55:26 <broccoli> I can’t imagine using znc or irssi on a phone
11:55:26 <broccoli> sounds hellish
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11:55:26 <Ampera> I use weechat on a ZNC on a phone
11:55:26 <Ampera> it works very well
11:55:26 <MrMobodies> I have an IRC client too but could never get to use to tapping out the letters a small screen correct
11:55:26 <MrMobodies> I might want to copy url's and that
11:55:26 <rust_collector> plobomp bop
11:56:46 <Halcyon> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/395157248442
11:56:54 <Halcyon> What the hell is that? Some kind of home brew kit?
11:58:56 <rust_collector> I get a feeling it is a...at-work-brew, for some special thing, like running some machine, or something. But I have no idea, and I am busy eating noodles and peanut butter
11:59:11 <Halcyon> Satay noodles?
12:00:41 <rust_collector> it is generic noodles, type "chicken" with about a in between teaspoon, and tablespoon, of peanut butter, and chilli powder, then I just let it cook until it is more like a..uh. paste coating?
12:00:58 <Halcyon> Interesting
12:01:17 <rust_collector> I think it is pretty good.
12:01:43 <Halcyon> I'd definitely give it a go
12:01:43 <rust_collector> I also like peanuts on pizza, so, maybe it is just me
12:02:23 <rust_collector> I prefer peanut butter that is a little bit chunky
12:02:32 <rust_collector> for the noodles
12:02:38 <Halcyon> Yes, I prefer crunchy too
12:02:56 <Halcyon> They even sell "extra crunchy" peanut butter, which is nice.
12:03:28 <rust_collector> it makes the noodles look a lot like they have been digested already, but... dont think too much about that
12:06:12 <Halcyon> HAHAHA.
12:06:27 <Halcyon> Not something I've previously considered, but now that image is in my head.
12:06:56 <rust_collector> that is ok. no copyright and stuff
12:07:13 <Halcyon> Heh
12:07:28 <Halcyon> Speaking of edible things, I probably should go to the shops and get stuff for dinner.
12:07:48 <rust_collector> hmm, dinner. yes, do that
12:08:41 <rust_collector> today is the UN day of eating fish and things, as they want to remove the heavy metals from the sea. something to consider
12:08:46 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
12:08:53 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :-)
12:08:58 <Ampera> <3
12:09:04 <Halcyon> Mmmm fish tacos actually sounds nice
12:09:11 <rust_collector> Hey Ampera !#^$*@#!!
12:09:27 <Ampera> RUSTY
12:09:30 <Ampera> @*(@&%*(&!@$ YOU TOO!
12:09:31 <rust_collector> yes
12:09:38 * Ampera tackles rust_collector
12:09:42 <rust_collector> oops
12:09:52 <rust_collector> well, good luck, lol
12:10:09 <Ampera> I was actually standing in front of UN headquarters on monday
12:10:24 <Ampera> such a strange thing to have just been plopped right in the middle of manhattan
12:10:29 <rust_collector> I do not think I have had fish tacos, except salmon, and that is just... salmon
12:10:47 <rust_collector> did you show them what your opinion of them is?
12:11:24 <Halcyon> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/166485301331
12:11:36 <Halcyon> I've always wanted a massive full tower case like that for my 386
12:11:41 <Halcyon> But shipping would be a killer
12:12:00 <Ampera> 120 bucks is kinda intense for an ancient AT class case
12:12:13 <remote> no doubt
12:12:18 <Ampera> also that PSU tho
12:12:20 <remote> I should sell mine lol
12:12:37 <Halcyon> Newer ATX style cases are still going for around $120 because they are "retro"
12:13:05 <Halcyon> Dammit, you're too far away too remote
12:13:11 <remote> mine are on wheels, I'm using two of them to make a computer desk
12:13:12 <Halcyon> (No pun intended)
12:13:18 <remote> yeah I know
12:13:56 <Ampera> where are you, remote?
12:13:58 <Ampera> if I may ask
12:14:03 <remote> Ohio
12:14:11 <Ampera> Ohioh no
12:14:25 <remote> yeah and I've been to NY a few times lol
12:14:31 <Ampera> I am so sorry
12:14:37 <Ampera> what part of NY
12:14:51 <remote> town down in the zoo part
12:15:11 <Ampera> that's not NY, that's NYC
12:15:15 <Ampera> biiiiig difference
12:15:15 <remote> ah
12:15:26 <remote> well the shitty city ;)
12:15:33 <Ampera> that's like saying I've been to Ohio because I went to Cleveland
12:15:52 <Ampera> (never been to cleveland, Columbus is kinda nice though)
12:16:05 <remote> they both have their slums
12:16:21 <Ampera> NYC is the world's largest urinal
12:17:33 <Halcyon> Charming
12:18:44 <remote> ah if this link works for you https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pentium-pro-build-need-case-recommendations.68883/#post-835940 the four on the left are what mine look like
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12:19:58 <rust_collector> zoo part, is that where the zoo line trains used to be?
12:20:14 <remote> beats me
12:20:42 <remote> I call that city a zoo, the main street is far worse than other places I've been
12:21:35 <Ampera> remote, I want
12:21:37 <Ampera> >:(
12:21:42 <Ampera> I have too much shit sadly
12:21:49 <Ampera> otherwise I'd just staright up drive and come pick it up, lol
12:21:55 <remote> lol
12:22:00 <rust_collector> you can almost live in those things
12:22:02 <remote> well two I'm using
12:22:21 <remote> while only one will have newer guts
12:22:32 <remote> but it will become my PC desk and all
12:22:38 <Halcyon> I used to have a massive Compaq server on wheels. It was about the size of a bar fridge.
12:23:34 <Ampera> I have a 2x Slot 1 compaq tower server in the cellar
12:23:34 <Halcyon> Similar to this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/hades2k/2317667530
12:23:36 <Ampera> waiting for a rainy day
12:24:20 <remote> silly part is I'm using 5" to 3.5" to 2.5
12:24:24 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon and Ampera, waves nonchalantly at rust_collector
12:24:31 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4 :-)
12:24:38 <remote> looks like a beast
12:25:01 <T3sl4> apparently some unfriendly things are happening with jordies, what's that all about?
12:25:19 <Halcyon> Yeah, he has been getting threats etc...
12:25:22 <Ampera> did they burn down his house again?
12:25:38 <Halcyon> It's obviously being investigated. The cops pretty much know who is behind it.
12:25:53 <rust_collector> hmm, who?
12:26:19 <Halcyon> People linked with outlaw motor cycle gangs
12:26:27 <T3sl4> i didn't watch the archived vid, but comments sounded like the cops aren't likely to do much about it
12:26:34 <Halcyon> Who are obviously associated with that corrupt ex-politician
12:26:50 <Halcyon> T3sl4: They charged the guy who burned his house before.
12:27:03 <Halcyon> They are also investigating the on-going threats.
12:27:03 <steve30> hi
12:27:06 <remote> oh and all the those old SCSI bays and drives came out and only little SSD sits insidelol
12:27:10 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :-)
12:27:40 <Halcyon> Anyway, going to go brush my teefs and go to the shops. Back later people.
12:27:54 <T3sl4> mmm. hope it clears out in any case
12:28:07 * T3sl4 pets Halcyon's teeth
12:32:17 * steve30 needs coffee
12:33:00 <Ampera> people are already reuploading coronation, lol
12:33:30 <T3sl4> i'll have to watch it later
12:33:42 * T3sl4 shakes an empty coffee mug at steve30
12:34:00 * Ampera shakes dat thang at T3sl4
12:34:14 * T3sl4 draws a circle in the air around Ampera
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12:37:59 <T3sl4> a ring, you might even say
12:40:36 <rust_collector> can I call it a portal to a reality?
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12:41:28 <T3sl4> maybe? not sure, apparently dat ass is unreal
12:41:47 <rust_collector> ok, good to know
12:42:24 <rust_collector> well, "know" maybe
13:01:55 <Halcyon> Ams back
13:02:13 * Ampera runs Halcyon down with a grand am
13:02:36 <Halcyon> That's not very nice
13:02:47 <steve30> I'm just watching a video called "Crazy Gay Sex Lives of Older Gay Men"
13:04:12 <Halcyon> Oh dear
13:04:21 <Halcyon> I'm sure it won't end well
13:07:29 <steve30> Well, we do tend to get funeral directors attending pride parades nowadays if that helps :p
13:07:39 <Halcyon> Sexy
13:09:20 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAQQMiQYq3Q
13:09:22 <Halcyon> Mmmm beefs
13:23:35 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--P6IGVLVZo
13:29:48 <Halcyon> That looks delicious
13:31:42 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
13:33:43 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :-)
13:38:30 <steve30> meow
13:42:11 <Halcyon> A cat nearly got strangled by a snake here
13:42:18 <Halcyon> Unfortunately the owner saved it
13:42:48 <steve30> bad snake
13:43:01 <Halcyon> It was just trying to rid the world of vermin
13:43:12 <Halcyon> https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/pets/eastern-brown-snake-found-wrapped-around-cats-neck-in-brisbane-home/news-story/3c66d3084611c0ceeef6b8753b983126
13:45:05 * steve30 meows innocently
13:45:28 <rust_collector> cats should be in africa somewhere
13:45:46 <Halcyon> Yes
13:45:58 <rust_collector> or in space. that would be cool
13:46:13 <Halcyon> Either way. Just not near other wildlife
13:47:26 <Halcyon> So here's a question... Remember those old PCMCIA SRAM cards? Like the 2MB ones that needed a coin cell to retain its data.
13:47:28 <steve30> cats should be somewhere warm and cosy, like australia, where they can torment Halcyon
13:47:36 <steve30> yup, i have one of those
13:48:02 <Halcyon> What happens when the battery is near the end of its life? Are you supposed to copy the data off it somewhere else, replace the battery and copy it back? Or did you have a certain timeframe you could swap out the battery and not lose data?
13:48:27 <steve30> hmm, don't know
13:48:38 <rust_collector> can you replace the battery, with it plugged in to the machine?
13:48:50 <Halcyon> I suppose you could? But it would be a pain in the ass
13:49:50 <Halcyon> Actually. I should have just read the manual that came with it. It says: "When changing the battery, first insert the IC card in the system, supplying voltage to the IC card and then change the battery. If this method is not used, data loss will occur."
13:51:43 <steve30> hehe
13:52:05 <Halcyon> There you go. I just learnt something.
13:53:22 <steve30> my hp 100lx came with a SRAM card, but I just use CF cards instead
13:53:43 <Halcyon> It makes sense. I've never used this one either. It's just for the collection.
13:54:07 <Halcyon> They aren't cheap though
13:55:12 <Halcyon> Cheapest one I can find on ebay is 64KB for $215
14:03:52 * steve30 is sleepy
14:35:24 <Halcyon> Steve can you hang my pants and underwear out on the line
14:35:27 <Halcyon> Please and thank you
14:40:14 <Halcyon> YouTube's algorithm is seriously broken. For some reason it thinks that I'd like to watch Football, or videos about Minecraft and other such garbage
14:40:26 <Halcyon> Even when I flag it, it just gives me more useless suggestions
14:45:17 * steve30 hisses at Halcyon's laundry and falls asleep
14:57:06 * Ampera hisses at Halcyon's laundry and falls asleep next to steve30
14:58:58 <Halcyon> Get off my laundry you two
15:00:30 * Ampera hisses at Halcyon, and then goes back to sleep
15:20:33 <arch> Ampera, i was without power, along with half the city, since yesterday 10pm thru today 3PM
15:20:43 <arch> in the freezing cold
15:20:56 <arch> had to drive to oneonta to get fucking propane cans and mr heater
15:21:34 <Ampera> arch, don't you have a gas stove?
15:21:53 <arch> nope. gas water heater and gas furnace, but electric stove :|
15:22:06 <arch> but gas furnace needs electricity for the blower fan
15:23:32 <Ampera> arch, just be careful, Heating is important, and you need to be prepared for this stuff
15:23:44 <Ampera> this ain't da bronx
15:23:48 <arch> found that out the hard way yesterday, yea
15:23:58 <Ampera> cold kills quick
15:23:59 <arch> i was so worried my water pipes would burst
15:24:53 <arch> speaking of which, i drove the truck for the first time today
15:25:00 <arch> damn that thing is a monster
15:25:10 <arch> accelerates fast
15:26:10 <Ampera> arch you are wild, lol
15:26:53 <arch> i had to smash the garage side door glass to turn the knob to open the door. since no power = no garage door open
15:26:59 <arch> i patched it up though
15:27:15 <arch> that side door needs replacing anywho
15:27:29 <arch> but uh, yea. i broke into my own house for the first time today \o/
15:27:31 <Ampera> >.>
15:27:45 <arch> or garage rather
15:29:36 <arch> i was real professional about it too. used tape over the glass to make sure it wouldn't shatter everywhere, then a few firm whacks with the elbow a couple times.
15:30:15 <arch> wanted to do that in the morning lest my neighbors thought i was a burglar
15:35:41 <flyback> https://www.youtube.com/@ScottMoulton/videos
15:35:50 <flyback> for anyone who wants to learn some data recovery fu
15:40:36 <grem> bounce
15:40:43 * Halcyon bounces
15:41:17 <grem> g'days
15:41:25 <Halcyon> How's it going?
15:41:56 <grem> not bad, all things considered
15:41:59 <grem> you?
15:42:02 <Halcyon> The plastic bags Digikey uses feel odd
15:42:08 <Halcyon> Eh, can't complain
15:44:00 <grem> no one listens right
15:44:30 <Halcyon> Hey does a good course flyback
15:44:40 <Halcyon> I did some of his face-to-face training in my old job
15:44:44 <Halcyon> *He
15:45:30 <Halcyon> Or cares
15:48:09 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
15:50:53 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :-)
15:51:52 <Ampera> hey
15:51:54 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon?
15:52:03 <Halcyon> Not too bad. How's you?
15:52:37 <Ampera> tired, had a good day though
15:52:45 <Halcyon> Oh good
15:52:55 <Ampera> I bought some jeans, and found ones that fit :D
15:52:58 <Ampera> wasn't too hard either
15:53:14 <Halcyon> Hooray!
15:54:07 <Ampera> I also have another date with a different guy this sunday :DDDD
15:54:17 <Halcyon> Woooo. Pics?
15:54:23 <Ampera> uhhh
15:55:43 <Halcyon> Oh yeah
15:56:14 <Ampera> lol
15:56:28 <Halcyon> I'm tired. Come rub my head
15:56:51 <Ampera> which head
16:00:13 <Halcyon> The usual one
16:00:19 <Halcyon> Wait that doesn't clarify anything
16:00:25 <Halcyon> The scalp
16:02:23 <Ampera> lol
16:06:22 <steve30> hi
16:06:29 * Ampera pets steve30
16:07:21 * Halcyon changes steve30's litter box
16:09:31 <Halcyon> I made a reservation for a restaurant, in August
16:13:35 <steve30> thats a long time
16:14:29 <Halcyon> Well it's in Hobart (a 2 hour flight away) and last time I was in Hobart, we missed out as it was completely booked.
16:15:45 <Halcyon> https://ballandchain.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/A-la-carte-2023.pdf
16:19:18 <steve30> mmm
16:21:57 <grem> you're flying to Hobart just to eat dinner
16:22:33 <Halcyon> Not JUST
16:22:46 <Halcyon> Flights were cheap so I thought, fuck it, why not go down for a few days
16:31:29 <Halcyon> My shitty old digital camera I put on ebay is up to $43
16:34:00 <steve30> what model is it?
16:34:33 <Halcyon> Canon Ixus 90 IS / Powershot SD790
16:34:40 <Halcyon> It's just a standard compact camera, nothing special
16:35:30 <steve30> that's about the same age as my Lumix
16:38:14 <Halcyon> Hey guys. I recapped my Supermicro board, still no signs of life (other than it powers on and stays on)
16:38:20 <Halcyon> It has two of these: https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/149/FDB6030L-103177.pdf
16:38:37 <steve30> o/
16:38:46 <Halcyon> How do I measure whether they are still good? I assume measure volts between ground and one of those pins?
16:39:05 <Halcyon> It's the TO-263 package
16:39:29 <steve30> put some voltage on the gate and see if it turns on?
16:39:45 <Halcyon> Well the board turns on, so I'm guessing power is being applied to it?
16:40:37 <Halcyon> Is the gate for lack of a better term, the "input" pin?
16:42:18 <steve30> yes, its the fet equivalent of the base
16:44:26 <Halcyon> You're a FET
16:44:56 <steve30> i should probably go and stock up on coffee this morning
16:45:08 * steve30 amplifies Halcyon
17:04:42 <steve30> I've been looking at RODELink wireless microphones
17:04:49 <steve30> they seem to sell quite cheap on ebay
17:07:27 <Halcyon> Oh yes
17:08:01 <Halcyon> They look quite neat
17:25:49 <steve30> https://twitter.com/JamesEsses/status/1747968062723076252
17:45:42 <K> hello bendy teaspoons
17:47:05 <Ysjoelfir> did I already shout a mornings into the room? if not: mornigns!
17:47:40 <Halcyon> Morning Ysjoelfir !
17:53:50 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
17:53:50 Set By: (Halcyon) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:27 2020
17:54:03 <Ysjoelfir> hi halcyon
17:54:12 <K> hello happysauruses and sadorangutans
17:54:49 <Ysjoelfir> you misspelled, K
17:55:25 <K> im am a maverick
17:55:41 <Ysjoelfir> its Heavysaurus
17:55:50 <Ysjoelfir> or, if you are a fin like Halcyon, Hevisaurus
17:55:56 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcxq3RVf1gQ
17:57:23 <K> haha
18:02:35 <Ysjoelfir> thats the finish original of that one. and yes, the keyboard dino is the guy from Sonata arctica and the singer is... I think from Thunderstone.
18:02:46 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXhhlYdySqQ
18:08:05 * Ysjoelfir uri gellers K
18:09:54 <K> (squeals)
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18:22:28 <watcher> Hi K
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19:24:07 * steve30 has more coffee
19:27:53 <Ysjoelfir> what a day
19:27:59 <Ysjoelfir> I feel like... nothing at all is happening
19:28:11 <Ysjoelfir> though I am fighting with this excel sheet for what feels like 3 days
19:28:15 <Ysjoelfir> probably because it IS 3 days
19:28:30 * Ysjoelfir just got himself a coke
19:28:38 <Ysjoelfir> thats c o k e. not c o c k
19:29:21 <K> c o c k e
19:29:49 <Ysjoelfir> yes
19:29:51 <Ysjoelfir> that one
19:29:52 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJd_d8I-iE
19:29:52 <EEVBot> [YouTube] English Lesson: Coke | 2m 2s | Channel: Wilson Tran | 1,234,348 views | 2014-09-24 - 11:34:29 UTC
19:32:10 <steve30> According to Saturday's protesters, you should have coke as it funds israeli apartheid. But I can see why that wouldn't cross most people's minds when they just fancy a chilled beverage.
19:34:18 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMWkCJVkHQ
19:34:18 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Aldi Sheffield Protest. Don't buy Coca Cola 030224 | 15m 38s | Channel: Graham Wroe | 176 views | 2024-02-03 - 18:23:57 UTC
19:48:48 <K> are u winning?
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20:03:13 <Ysjoelfir> I don't care particularely much about politics in other countries. as long as they leave me alone I don't care. I also don't feel particularely obliged to protect other countries as I kinda doubt that they would take much effort to help me in case of... things. So... I keep on enjoying my coke. and my russian tools and stuff.
20:03:52 <steve30> i'm inclined to agree
20:08:27 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, we pay hundreds of millions for bicycle lanes in peru each year. yet noone of the peru...ian? govt. even cared to say anythign when we had big floods in recent times, let alone offering help. or ukrain and stuff. and don't get me started with israel, for them I get the feeling that we are still controlled by hitler and all I hear from the central councel of the jewish society is like "you should be ashamed for x, y and z!!!!". That
20:08:27 <Ysjoelfir> makes me sad. I never did any harm to them, in fact, I know many very nice people. but still I am being discredited, just because I have been born in the wrong country. makes me sad.
20:15:49 <Halcyon> Evening kim chi
20:18:28 <K> who u callin' a cabbage in a state of disrepair??!?!/1111
20:18:44 <Halcyon> Hello K :-)
20:59:56 <Ysjoelfir> I think so
21:00:07 <Ysjoelfir> having to redo pick and place data by hand is annoying
21:00:30 <Ysjoelfir> comparing it with a bom and fixing the components that aren't in the bom is even more annoying
21:19:04 <steve30> i've stocked up on coffee
21:21:22 <DogWombleTheSecond> !coffee steve30
21:21:29 Nick: DogWombleTheSecond is now known as DogWomble
21:40:06 * Ysjoelfir starts a search and rescue mission for the second wombling dog
21:40:23 * Ysjoelfir picks up steve, hooks up the coffee IV and makes him help search
21:41:10 <steve30> mmm, coffee
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