// #eevblog — 2022-11-02
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04:48:28 <DHess_US> hehe, I keep reading this as The Washington Free Bacon, https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/fuel-company-warns-of-historic-diesel-shortage/
04:48:28 <EEVBot> [url] Fuel Company Warns of 'Historic' Diesel Shortage - Washington Free Beacon | freebeacon.com
05:04:42 <Erhard> Wishful thinking... I mean who doesn't want free bacon?
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06:29:50 <DHess_US> https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiP19C_iuulOub5NXEddkk45IzbmYle7eccuSCiMiwDL-mF5VNOzYRUjy9ypdainZaqB50LTFY9Exao64qpYDy9SjWVhmTIzRvLYFQa963Qhp0_OI3_drVk7gvsq1kX5Sn_At-pD7D_T3FZ9bVJdmMR2tZLXOWGioxCe-tSLblGD3DbXspA072DQFKp/w399-h400/daily_gifdump_4193_03.gif
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08:47:53 <electrohead> o/
08:50:55 * Ampera blasts music about joy and happiness at electrohead
08:51:53 <rust_collector> and people wonder why there are wars and stuff
08:52:36 <Ampera> hello rust_collector how are you
08:53:40 <rust_collector> with all this joy and crap, I am getting pretty upset and angry, so thanks for that
08:57:32 <steve30> o/
08:58:56 * arch exposes rust_collector to yiff drawings
09:03:44 * electrohead cranks up the powerfull death metal with balls of steel
09:03:46 <electrohead> lol
09:03:48 <electrohead> hey :p
09:05:07 * steve30 feels cold
09:14:20 * Halcyon hugs everyone
09:15:13 * Halcyon spanks electrohead
09:17:18 * arch films
09:19:53 * steve30 curls up around Halcyon
09:20:58 * arch punches a hobo to add some extra randomness
09:22:01 * steve30 is tired
09:22:47 * arch stuffs steve30 in a tire and rolls him down a hill
09:23:15 * steve30 is now also tyred
09:25:12 * electrohead says stuff in the third person, to keep this going
09:25:26 * steve30 waves to electrohead
09:25:36 * electrohead hugs steve30, arch, and Halcyon
09:26:25 * electrohead had to get his bank account unlocked, due to a "fraudulent" purchase that was only me trying to purchase a phone
09:31:19 <arch> are you sure it wasn't because of a $7500 life sized doll of T3sl4 you tried to buy, for research purposes?
09:32:45 <steve30> Maybe Halcyon tried to buy the T3sl4-doll using electrohead's account
09:32:56 <rust_collector> inflatable trans hitler dolls are really popular...
09:33:01 <rust_collector> well, good night
09:33:28 <coppice> rust_collector: so, how many have you sold?
09:33:36 <electrohead> lmfao
09:33:39 <electrohead> hahahahaha
09:33:48 <rust_collector> for tax reasons, I can not say
09:33:51 <steve30> You can be transhitler now?
09:33:53 * electrohead offers beer to the weirdos of eevblog irc channel
09:34:33 <arch> ahahah
09:35:45 <arch> damn, it's hard carving pcbs. does anyone have tips for easing fatigue when carving?
09:36:03 <arch> or maybe it's because im using 2oz copperclad atm
09:36:30 <rust_collector> with a "knife" or a dremel or?
09:36:46 <rust_collector> knife, I guess
09:37:22 <arch> i am using a scalpel
09:38:48 <rust_collector> I wonder if it would be an idea to try something like a v shaped chisel, or a gouge, I guess is the name. then just tap it along?
09:39:14 <arch> chisel will lose its sharpness when it hits fiberglass
09:39:24 <rust_collector> so will a scalpel
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09:39:49 <arch> ya, but we don't care as much for a scalpel, because the blunt end will still carve just fine
09:40:07 <electrohead> arch: carving? pfft, dude you have a dremel, yeah?
09:40:21 <arch> i use the sharp end just for tracing, and the opposite side (blunt) for deeper cuts
09:40:32 <arch> i do have a dremel, yes
09:40:37 <electrohead> well there you go
09:40:46 <coppice> I've chiseled slots in PCBs, to isolate areas thoroughly, and kill surface leakage
09:40:47 <rust_collector> snort and have fun
09:40:51 <arch> b-but..fiberglass dust...and lung cancer =(
09:40:57 <rust_collector> meh
09:41:05 <electrohead> my first ever home made PCB was made with copper clad, and a dremel
09:41:12 <electrohead> was the prettiest, but that shit worked
09:41:15 <electrohead> and still works, too!
09:41:54 <arch> i do use my dremel to cut pcbs, but i do it outside, while wearing an n95 mask super snugly
09:42:00 <electrohead> https://hellnet.xyz/media/jpg/projects/lot_debugging.jpg
09:42:03 <electrohead> https://hellnet.xyz/media/jpg/projects/lot01_bare02.jpg
09:42:06 <rust_collector> maybe you just need to try a different handle?
09:42:06 <electrohead> https://hellnet.xyz/media/jpg/projects/lot01_bare01.jpg
09:42:09 <arch> i can still kinda smell the copperclad/fiberglass particles, but hopefully it's below the osha limit
09:42:13 <electrohead> that's the project in question
09:42:25 <rust_collector> oh, you do this at work?
09:42:35 <arch> no lol
09:42:49 <rust_collector> well, who cares about osha at home?
09:42:58 <electrohead> heh
09:43:05 <arch> good point. i'll start snorting fiberglass dust from now on to get high
09:43:07 * electrohead slaps Halcyon with a piece of sausage
09:43:14 <rust_collector> good good
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09:45:32 <arch> i finally ordered some stuff from goldmine elec. 40-70 pieces of vacuum tubes for $35. hope i get somewhere around 70 instead of 40 :D
09:46:29 <rust_collector> 40 useful ones can be better than 100 weird unusable ones... but, you can hope they are 70 good ones
09:47:01 <arch> they do mention in the disclaimer that a few can come broken, but most work
09:47:06 <rust_collector> $35 seems like an ok price, I guess
09:47:23 <Erhard> LOL. What sort of tubes.
09:47:31 <Erhard> You usually need specific ones.
09:47:35 <arch> https://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G26190
09:47:35 <EEVBot> [url] G26190 - Antique Vacuum Tube Blowout | www.goldmine-elec-products.com
09:47:39 <rust_collector> well, re good night
09:47:40 <Erhard> You building a circuit from scratch I guess?
09:48:05 <arch> no, i just want to build some tube circuits to get an experience of ye olde days before transistors were around
09:48:28 <arch> i do not have any experience with tube circuitry, except VFDs and nixies
09:48:28 <Erhard> Cool. Decent for that I suppose
09:48:46 <Erhard> But you won't getting any 12AX7 tubes or anything really standard
09:49:26 <Erhard> (Hint 12AT7 is usually just as good and much cheaper)
09:49:32 <Erhard> I love tube stuff
09:49:58 <arch> Erhard, i usually reserve this for T3sl4 when he says something negative, but here you go: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHbJ5ZQWQAYU8TS.jpg
09:50:23 <Erhard> You are too kind
09:50:36 <Erhard> As I said: 17:48 < Erhard> Cool. Decent for that I suppose
09:50:49 <arch> :D
09:51:41 <Erhard> They are definitely fun to play with, and datasheets are out there. So you could do something fun with them
09:51:59 <Erhard> Got an HV supply?
09:52:23 <arch> yes, although low power. 170V ~3W
09:52:52 <Erhard> Should work for some of them
09:53:17 <Erhard> 180V is a common tube supply.
09:53:19 <arch> i have a few of them, and i have some extra pcbs around that i can solder. this is the transformer i used for them: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/pulse-electronics-power/PA0367ANLT/3025619
09:53:26 <Erhard> And all of that is like +/- 20% or more
09:55:43 <Erhard> Tubes are good for winter projects
09:57:15 <steve30> i think i'll try and go to sleep
09:57:30 * steve30 snuggles up under Halcyon's duvet
10:03:23 <electrohead> goldmine? they are still around?
10:03:26 <electrohead> hell yeah :D
10:03:38 <arch> its my first order with them
10:15:40 <electrohead> ahh, nice
10:15:47 <electrohead> yeah I ordered a few things from them years ago
10:19:34 * Halcyon cuddles steve30
10:19:40 <Halcyon> I just got my new bed delivered \o/
10:19:48 <Halcyon> It has wireless charging on both sides
10:38:07 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:38:35 * Ampera beans Halcyon with a GU10 bulb
10:40:05 * jaymax bakes those beans with molasses and a smoked chunk of skin off the hogs ass.
10:40:33 <Ampera> jaymax, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHbLxQw-sc
10:40:33 <EEVBot> [url] Pictures of beans in places that beans should not be - YouTube | www.youtube.com
10:41:18 <Halcyon> Mmmmm beans
10:41:26 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
10:41:35 <Halcyon> I'm good, how are you?
10:41:45 <Ampera> eternally tired
10:41:51 <Ampera> from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to bed
10:41:52 <Ampera> just tired
10:42:02 <Halcyon> :(
10:42:41 <jaymax> Ampera: is it going to show toast?
10:42:45 <Halcyon> I hate that video already
10:43:00 <Ampera> but it's pictures of beans where beans should not be
10:43:30 <jaymax> Croc'o'beans LOL
10:43:47 <jaymax> Ampera, y'all'rite.
10:44:08 <Ampera> is that a question or an answer
10:44:51 <Ampera> fun fact: beans in tomato sauce are anachronistic
10:45:22 <Halcyon> I feel like beans on toast now
10:45:25 <Halcyon> I'd have to go buy some
10:46:08 <Ampera> for some reason I imagine if you ate a load of beans, your farts would smell like old ladies' perfume
10:46:11 <Halcyon> I see Musk is offering 50% off Starlink hardware
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11:00:24 <Halcyon> electrohead, you still awake?
11:04:16 <arch> the boogieman got electrohead
11:06:01 <jaymax> the beans got electrohead
11:06:10 <arch> that could be it as well
11:06:30 <jaymax> electrobeans
11:06:52 <jaymax> he has been assimilated
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11:07:23 <Halcyon> I hope not, he has my package. Hahah
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11:07:28 <arch> soon he will fall from the sky somewhere in london while angelic music plays
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11:11:05 <Halcyon> Like Mr Bean?
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11:32:39 <steve30> a bed with wireless charging?
11:32:52 * steve30 wonders why Halcyon needs charging
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11:44:18 <Halcyon> Hehe for my phone :)
11:51:56 <steve30> I'll save the electricity for my electric blanket :)
12:03:44 <Halcyon> Then how do you charge your phone?
12:03:44 <Halcyon> :P
12:04:52 <steve30> My Snom 720 is mains powered
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16:25:15 * Halcyon pokes steve30
16:26:32 <Halcyon> https://texelec.com/product/bad-barta/
16:26:33 <EEVBot> [url] The Bad Idea Barta Board - ISA Novelty Card - TexElec | texelec.com
16:26:41 <Halcyon> Seems a bit pricey for something that does.... something?
16:27:23 <Halcyon> Oh it's an April fools gag
16:30:03 <Halcyon> Although it actually exists?
16:30:05 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqvdLEKVbyM
16:30:06 <EEVBot> [url] The Bad Idea Barta Board - How much damage can a single ISA card do? - YouTube | www.youtube.com
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17:51:44 <K> hello bowls
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18:57:33 <Halcyon> Hello spoon holder
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19:10:52 <watcher> Hello Halcyon
19:11:09 <Halcyon> Hello watcher, how are you?
19:11:27 <watcher> Good have a week off this week
19:12:20 <Halcyon> Lucky
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20:31:05 <Ysjoelfir> hi watcher
20:31:10 <Ysjoelfir> hi everyone else
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20:31:24 <Ysjoelfir> hi rust2
20:31:29 <watcher> Hallo Ysjoelfir
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20:36:01 <K> ysys
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21:09:27 <electrohead> o/
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21:15:08 * electrohead slaps Ampera1
21:15:43 <Ysjoelfir> the heck is wrong here? o.o
21:15:54 <Ysjoelfir> seems like amperas server had a hickup
21:15:58 <electrohead> nothing at all.
21:16:15 <electrohead> I didn't do it, wasn't me lol
21:16:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol
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21:17:46 <Ampera1> I ran updates and debian decided to break
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21:18:12 <Ampera> I've booted into a previous kernel for now
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21:19:24 <Ampera> I must say, I am quite looking forward to the stable released of debian 12
21:20:06 <Ampera> I have to use testing because I'm on 12th gen intel. The version of ZFS that ships with Debian in the contrib section appears to break on the new Linux 6 kernel
21:22:29 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/yjszqk/virtual_reality_and_fear_of_heights/
21:22:32 <EEVBot> [reddit] Virtual reality and fear of heights (https://v.redd.it/c9rhb4gb8gx91) to r/Unexpected | 35107 points (81.0%) | 2211 comments | Posted by Virgo_IC1101 | Created at 2022-11-01 - 22:29:06EDT
21:23:34 <Ampera> maybe it's a lifetime of playing realistic 3D video games, but I never got nervous with high speeds or flying or whatever in VR
21:23:40 <Ampera> was fuckin cool tho
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21:56:04 <electrohead> https://i.redd.it/5rz68fniofx91.png
21:56:07 <EEVBot> [reddit] Voting Leads to Change to r/comics | 17929 points (87.0%) | 272 comments | Posted by toonhole | Created at 2022-11-01 - 20:38:15EDT | https://redd.it/yjqji7
22:00:08 <Ampera> whoever made that needs to be put in a very small box
22:01:50 <electrohead> lol
22:04:36 <K> that is rather sick
22:13:09 <Ysjoelfir> so that was a rather long meeting....
22:13:12 * Ysjoelfir is tired now
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22:20:11 <Ampera> I am tired and I just woke up
22:20:18 <Ampera> and also am dealing with xcode for the first time
22:21:41 <K> get dealt with!
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22:22:27 * Ampera deals K ten cards, Ysjoelfir another ten, and two to the side
22:22:52 <K> and now what?
22:23:03 <Ampera> it's Ysjoelfir's bid
22:31:09 * Ysjoelfir looks at his cards
22:31:13 <Ysjoelfir> what are we playing?
22:31:39 <Ampera> well there are 32 cards, two cards to the side, 10 each, and there's bidding
22:31:43 <Ampera> you guess mr. german
22:33:37 <Ampera> https://www.dw.com/en/why-skat-is-the-king-of-german-card-games/a-55719970
22:33:38 <EEVBot> [url] Why skat is the king of German card games – DW – 10/26/2022 | www.dw.com
22:34:25 <Ysjoelfir> oh, right. it's been a while since I played skat
22:34:41 <Ysjoelfir> probably didnt play it since my grandpa died like..... what was that, 15 years ago?
22:34:42 <Ampera> it's one of the few card games I can stand playing
22:35:04 <Ampera> which is lucky for me, as it's the one card game nobody around here knows how to play
22:35:28 <Ampera> it's also highly skill oriented, so if I sought out a game, I'd end up finding players far more capable than I, and get promptly pulverized
22:35:29 <steve30> i really should go to the shops
22:36:08 <Ampera> I do remember though, my dad and I once found this online skat game, and we managed to get each other in a game and cheat against the other person (as if you can see your partner's cards, you can easily stomp the other guy)
22:36:25 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
22:37:28 <Ysjoelfir> hehehe :D I should try to remember the rules
22:40:32 <K> no idea what you are talking about
22:41:02 <Ampera> K, justgermanthings
22:41:03 <Ampera> <3
22:41:29 <Ampera> the entire german half of my family know how to play skat
22:41:29 <K> we have this 3-player card game, might be similar - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zole
22:41:30 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Zole | "Zole (diminutive Zolīte) is a Latvian trick-taking cooperative card game for 3 to 5 players. The game belongs to the Schafkopf group of Ace-Ten games, i.e. Jacks and Queens are permanent trumps in the game. Zole is played using only 26 cards of a 32-card piquet deck or French-style deck, consisting of 36 cards. Six or ten cards are removed from the deck and left out of play. Official rules and terminology were published by the […]"
22:41:47 <K> never seen being played wit more than 3 players though
22:41:58 <Ampera> Sounds similar. There's a lot of trick based games with bidding and trump
22:42:18 <Ampera> skat itself is like an amalgamation of like 2-3 different games put together
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