// #australia — 2022-03-21
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00:00:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> well right next to the military base is a home for the mentally fucked up people and its got RNs and Doctors there but the paitents are in a room by themselves
00:00:00 <electrohead> that's perfect for a few members of this channel!
00:00:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hahahaha
00:01:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i can name a few right now but i would get in trouble lol
00:01:00 <gee_man> i'll probably be institutionalised if i go back on drugs
00:01:00 <doggyrat> do i know the person you are talking about electrohead
00:01:00 <gee_man> i'd probably enjoy it, too
00:01:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> lol gee_man
00:01:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> doggyrat persons not person
00:02:00 <electrohead> lmfao
00:02:00 <electrohead> yeah possibly
00:02:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i would dare say it would be a good chance everyone knows one of these people
00:02:00 <doggyrat> Snoopys_Gunship: did you have a look at my YT channel
00:02:00 <electrohead> that chance is greater than 99 percent
00:03:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> lol electrohead\
00:03:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> doggyrat havent we just established that i am finishing a 72 hours work week, now i ask you this question, do 8YOU0think ive had time to look at it
00:03:00 <gee_man> what i type and what i actually think are two completely different trains of thought
00:04:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> its a simple question i shall wait
00:05:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh jesus fuck
00:06:00 <gee_man> you gotta laugh Snoopys_Gunship
00:06:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> im laughing on the outside but on the inside im cutting my organs out
00:07:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hang on i got a quote
00:09:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQBBl0HsmH8 my fave quote so far
00:09:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> [YouTube] � Title: \ � Views: 4,151 � Length: 00:00:06 � Up: 23 � Down: NA
00:10:00 <electrohead> sounds like someone needs a beer
00:10:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i need more then taht lol
00:10:00 <electrohead> doggyrat: so, you have a youtube channel, eh?
00:11:00 <doggyrat> it is call doggyrat
00:11:00 <gee_man> almost 100ppm co2 according to my air quality monitor
00:11:00 <doggyrat> if you do visit it you will know why i do need a 3D printer
00:11:00 <gee_man> gonna open a window
00:11:00 <gee_man> 1000ppm*
00:12:00 <doggyrat> i do not need a air quality monitor i do open the windows from time to time to let fresh air in
00:13:00 <gee_man> 300ppm is outdoors, lowest i've seen it in here with the window open is 450ppm, it averages about 600ppm
00:13:00 <doggyrat> i know that is very old school not having sensors
00:14:00 <gee_man> old school is not having a dedicated server rack and servers in your home
00:14:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> so im old school then
00:14:00 <Bonny> same here
00:15:00 <gee_man> i guess we're not in 2032, yet
00:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> no you're just old
00:15:00 <Bonny> lol
00:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> actually whos the youngest here right now
00:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> im guessing gee_man is
00:16:00 <gee_man> i'm 39 dude
00:16:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> fuck then your not electrohead takes that honor
00:16:00 <gee_man> i act stupidly young tho
00:17:00 <gee_man> or maybe just stupid
00:17:00 <Bonny> if only electrohead lived in the same country as me.. I'd be a cougar anytime
00:18:00 <Bonny> hmmmm did I just kill the convo?
00:18:00 <gee_man> i'm not actually all that stupid, just got a low amount of ram
00:18:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> if electrohead lived here i would nail him from behind l;)
00:19:00 <Bonny> lol
00:19:00 <gee_man> Snoopys_Gunship and electrohead can be the bread for the bbq
00:19:00 <gee_man> i'm sure you could fit in there somewhere too, Bonny
00:19:00 <Bonny> spit roast?
00:20:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> :O
00:20:00 <electrohead> lmfao
00:20:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> human centipede
00:20:00 <Bonny> hahahahaha
00:20:00 <gee_man> eww
00:20:00 <gee_man> no that's going too far
00:20:00 <gee_man> that movie scarred me
00:20:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hahahahaha
00:20:00 <Bonny> lol
00:20:00 <electrohead> which one did you see?
00:21:00 <gee_man> the first one i think
00:21:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i just finished watching Angel Has Fallen
00:21:00 <electrohead> as in the original?
00:21:00 <electrohead> lol
00:21:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> you know what scared the fuck out of me and still does with the recent ones
00:21:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> Child Play
00:21:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> Childs Play
00:22:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> actually my son asked me about Pennywise the other day
00:22:00 <Bonny> Pennywise?
00:23:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i said he isnt real so to test the theory he walks over to the nearest drain and takes a piss in it lol
00:23:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> IT
00:23:00 <Bonny> lol
00:23:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> gotta love my son lol
00:23:00 <gee_man> i got 100% on my quiz
00:23:00 <Bonny> well he is your son.. the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
00:23:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yeah Bonny you know the fucked up clown that lives in drains
00:24:00 <Bonny> yes
00:24:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> good work gee_man
00:24:00 <Bonny> well done
00:24:00 <gee_man> it's only worth 10% of the final grade tho
00:24:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> could be the difference in the end
00:24:00 <gee_man> may well be
00:25:00 <electrohead> what's the quiz for?
00:25:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh i watched Red Dawn last night too lol
00:25:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> not the ending i was expecting
00:25:00 <gee_man> electrohead a philosophy unit
00:26:00 <electrohead> ahh
00:26:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hey electrohead
00:26:00 <electrohead> yo
00:26:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> when you severed did your bases have a alert system
00:26:00 <electrohead> wait, what?
00:27:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> like as in if someone got onto base here we push a button and a audible alert sounds
00:27:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> or if there is a lockdown on base that sounds and lets everyone know about it and to hide like a bitch
00:27:00 <electrohead> oh, yeah of course
00:27:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh cool
00:28:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> cause funny enough i got the buttons right here in front of me lol
00:28:00 <electrohead> ahh
00:28:00 <electrohead> so .. you could cause complete panic, *right now* ?
00:28:00 <electrohead> xD
00:28:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> bingo
00:28:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> and wake cunts up :D
00:28:00 <gee_man> you *could* but don't you sorta wanna keep your job?
00:29:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yes yes i do lol
00:29:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> so i wont dont worry
00:29:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> im may be a smart arse cunt here but in real life im actually quite sane
00:30:00 <electrohead> Do you talk as bad as your spelling, in real life?
00:30:00 <gee_man> same
00:30:00 <electrohead> lmao
00:30:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> but when the hippie leaves there is one thing i wil lbe doing, holding him dwon and cutting the pricks hair off
00:30:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> fuck yeah electrohead lol
00:30:00 <electrohead> :p
00:30:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i misspell words just to annoy you lol
00:31:00 <gee_man> is it daylight savings or something? my epg on my tv tuner is 20mins out of sync
00:31:00 <electrohead> Snoopys_Gunship: well stop that, then
00:31:00 <electrohead> :p
00:31:00 <electrohead> and brb, going to make coffee
00:31:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> its being daylight savings since october or there abouts
00:31:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> roger that electrohead
00:32:00 <gee_man> i forgot how good the original mad max was
00:32:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> that is one movie i havent watched
00:32:00 <gee_man> it's on tv right now
00:33:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> now if only i had a tv in front of me lol
00:33:00 <gee_man> should just get a usb tv tuner
00:34:00 <gee_man> i got an hauppauge (made in indoensia) but for some reason the signal is crap on recordings, but not for live tv, dunno why
00:34:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i got one just cant be fucked pulling it out and putting it on
00:36:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> alright im, pulling out speak later
00:36:00 <gee_man> catch ya
00:39:00 <gee_man> hm maybe because it's a dual tv tuner i have to prime the second tuner because it's recognised as separate devices
00:40:00 <electrohead> later Snoopys_Gunship
00:49:00 <gee_man> apparently coaxial over wireless is possible, but just not worth it
00:49:00 <gee_man> prices will come down tho, everything's going wireless eventually, cables a thing of the past
00:50:00 <gee_man> door knobs and cupboard handles will be gone, too
00:51:00 <electrohead> "coaxial over wireless"
00:51:00 <electrohead> huh?
00:52:00 <electrohead> that .. defeats the definition of coaxial ..
00:53:00 <gee_man> well, if you could plug in a dongle into the coaxial tv aerial coaxial wall socket, then you could watch tv anywhere in wifi range on portable device
00:54:00 <electrohead> wait what?
00:54:00 <gee_man> most people say to set up a box with a tv tuner that plugs into the wall socket, then broadcast the video
00:55:00 <gee_man> which part did i misexpalin? coaxial tv wall socket?
00:59:00 <gee_man> i suppose it'd be easier to just plug in a booster into the wall socket, then use a cheaper aerial
01:04:00 <electrohead> so ok, you want your coaxial cable channels to be broadcasted wirelessly?
01:04:00 <electrohead> I .. think that's what I read?
01:04:00 <gee_man> yeah
01:04:00 <electrohead> ok ok
01:05:00 <electrohead> first of all - your coaxial signal is already RF
01:05:00 <electrohead> the cable itself is essentially a waveguide
01:05:00 <gee_man> ok
01:05:00 <gee_man> makes sense
01:05:00 <electrohead> so, saying wireless in this setting - you are talking about 'wireless internet', ie on the 2.4 and 5.0 GHz bands
01:05:00 <electrohead> that said
01:05:00 <gee_man> yes
01:06:00 <electrohead> coaxial cable into a tuner card, on a computer that has well enough processing power, to then send over your network
01:06:00 <electrohead> and since it would be live channels, you'll need a fuck ton of RAM on that machine
01:06:00 <electrohead> along with of course quite some processing power
01:07:00 <gee_man> hm. i don't have enough ram
01:07:00 <electrohead> because you would have to encode everything, to send over your network
01:07:00 <electrohead> and then you have to worry about receiving that
01:07:00 <electrohead> are you starting to see the issues with this?
01:07:00 <gee_man> yes, now i am
01:08:00 <gee_man> google suggested otherwise
01:08:00 <gee_man> what about a booster tho
01:08:00 <electrohead> you can't just capture television channels, send over wifi, and view on another television
01:08:00 <electrohead> now, encoding and then watching on another computer, now that's way more feasible
01:11:00 <gee_man> can i retransmit the same signal by plugging in some sort of coaxial dongle?
01:11:00 <gee_man> like a booster?
01:12:00 <electrohead> what kind of booster are you referring to, exactly?
01:13:00 <gee_man> like it just retransmits the rf signal, but locally, so that a cheap aerial will pick it up with no problem
01:15:00 <electrohead> why can't you run coax cable to wherever you need it?
01:15:00 <gee_man> tripping hazard
01:16:00 <gee_man> i could run it along the wall, but i don't have enough coax to do that
01:16:00 <gee_man> plus i want it for 3 tvs
01:20:00 <electrohead> so then get a splitter and enough coax?
01:21:00 <gee_man> wouldn't an rf booster be cheaper?
01:21:00 <gee_man> or does it not exist
01:22:00 <electrohead> booster == amplifier
01:22:00 <gee_man> amplifier! that's the search term i needed
01:22:00 <electrohead> and, what would an amplifier do, for you? it just amplifies the signal
01:22:00 <electrohead> that's it
01:23:00 <gee_man> the signal is bad unless it's plugged into the wall socket
01:23:00 <electrohead> unless what is plugged into the socket?
01:24:00 <gee_man> even bought a german $100 aerial bunny ears but the signal still drops out
01:24:00 <electrohead> bunny ears?
01:24:00 <gee_man> the tv signal is bad unless the tv plugged directly into the wall socket
01:24:00 <electrohead> now I'm even *more* confused
01:25:00 <electrohead> ok ok
01:25:00 <gee_man> rabbit ear aerials don't do the job, but they will if i get an amplifier
01:25:00 <electrohead> how are you watching television, right now?
01:25:00 <gee_man> wall socket at the moment, but it's a tripping hazard at the moment
01:25:00 <electrohead> via the hard wired coaxial cable, or OTA via bunny ears?
01:25:00 <electrohead> ok
01:26:00 <electrohead> do you get the same amount of channels via OTA?
01:26:00 <gee_man> sometimes, not all the time
01:26:00 <gee_man> some groups of channels won't show up sometimes, or they'll be bad quality
01:26:00 <gee_man> with bunny ears
01:27:00 <gee_man> sometimes just walking around is enough to make the signal bad
01:27:00 <gee_man> anyway, i'm looking for an amplifier now
01:28:00 <Bonny> what about moving the wall socket closer to the tv?
01:28:00 <gee_man> asbestos problems forbid it
01:28:00 <Bonny> no tripping hazzards this way
01:28:00 <Bonny> you should remove the asbestos
01:28:00 <gee_man> tell me about it
01:29:00 <gee_man> can't afford it, housing would rather demolish the place and put up flats
01:30:00 <electrohead> just get a big enough splitter, get enough coaxial cable, and done deal.
01:30:00 <gee_man> an amplifier sounds like so much less work tho
01:32:00 <electrohead> are we talking about HDTV, or SDTV?
01:32:00 <gee_man> hd
01:33:00 <electrohead> ok, and you mentioned rabbit ears before?
01:33:00 <electrohead> https://www.amazon.com/LATEST-Amplified-Digital-Antenna-Miles/dp/B07XQLW1H7/
01:34:00 <gee_man> THAT's what i want
01:35:00 <electrohead> just make sure you mount it as high as possible
01:35:00 <electrohead> and you'll probably want to get more than one, since you have more than one TV
01:35:00 <gee_man> hm. can't i just plug that into the wall socket?
01:36:00 <electrohead> it's not feasible whatsoever to try to get that signal routed through a splitter, as you'll just lose signal strength
01:36:00 <electrohead> No
01:36:00 <electrohead> that's not what that is for
01:36:00 <electrohead> if you plug what I just linked, into the wall coaxial socket, what would that do?
01:37:00 <gee_man> closed loop?
01:37:00 <electrohead> the antenna receives your HDTV OTA signal, it's for getting OTA channels to your television
01:37:00 <electrohead> that antenna is NOT a transmitting antenna
01:38:00 <gee_man> can't i just get a retransmitter?
01:38:00 <electrohead> a retransmitter for what?
01:38:00 <gee_man> something that plugs into the wall socket, and retransmits the same signal
01:38:00 <electrohead> you have two options here, either get a more proper antenna for each television, or get enough coaxial cable and a splitter
01:39:00 <electrohead> you're seeing this from your own perspective
01:39:00 <electrohead> listen - it's just not feasible, let alone not worth trying to "retransmit" the coaxial signal, when it's already RF
01:39:00 <electrohead> that's - what the coaxial cable is for
01:39:00 <gee_man> i don't mean over wifi anymore
01:39:00 <gee_man> i mean the same rf signal
01:40:00 <gee_man> a repeater
01:40:00 <electrohead> the signal is already RF, why would you want to convert this to a different frequency, just to go back to the original frequency?
01:40:00 <gee_man> i don't want to convert it to a different frequency
01:40:00 <electrohead> exactly, that's the point here...
01:40:00 <electrohead> that's what the fucking coaxial cable is for, to get your coax signal to where you need it
01:41:00 <gee_man> i just want the same frequencies boosted
01:41:00 <electrohead> why amplified, though?
01:41:00 <electrohead> the signal(s) are there, yes or no?
01:41:00 <gee_man> not at a high enough quality
01:42:00 <electrohead> besides, an amplifier will only do so much, in your residence; if the signal is weak coming into your house/apartment, how will you amplify something that barely isn't there?
01:43:00 <electrohead> for all you know, your signal quality is being affected by external RF noise sources, a bad line could be somewhere, too many splitters may be used already, etc
01:43:00 <gee_man> the bunny ears don't work well enough, but the wall socket gives perfect quality, if i boost the wall socket, the bunny ears will also have perfect quality
01:43:00 <electrohead> that's not how that works.
01:44:00 <electrohead> the bunny ears are receiving the channels on different frequencies, than what comes over your coaxial line
01:44:00 <gee_man> hm..
01:45:00 <electrohead> if your television is new enough, you can receive both 'sets' of frequencies, per say
01:47:00 <gee_man> i'm still trying to wrap my mind around how they're different frequencies
01:51:00 <electrohead> ok, yeah I did butcher a bit of that, was in a rush before
01:53:00 <gee_man> i think i just screwed up my epg by enabling a 2nd device on the same tv tuner
01:57:00 <electrohead> I almost forgot that you are in australia
01:57:00 <electrohead> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_television_systems#Digital_television_systems
02:04:00 <gee_man> does the modulation have anything to do with the different frequencies?
02:05:00 <gee_man> hm no, that's just for narrower frequencies
02:06:00 <gee_man> i think i'm too tired to understand right now, but i'll leave the tab open for tomorrow to have a proper read through
02:06:00 <gee_man> thanks for putting up with my dumbarse tired brain electrohead
02:24:00 <gee_man> i should probably get some sleep
02:24:00 <gee_man> nite folks
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15:26:00 <ld0g> its the gee_man
15:26:00 <gee_man> ey
15:26:00 <ld0g> aye
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