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00:00:00 <ld0g> and attend whatever counselling ? they see fit...
00:00:00 <ld0g> i really just want to goto rehab
00:01:00 <ld0g> know i can self refer but was hoping the government.courts might have available spots quicker ..
00:02:00 <ld0g> find out tomorrow
00:05:00 <ld0g> when they do pre-sentence report in august hopefully they can see all this engageeeement, i'll get some reputable character references, provide medical docs , counselling notees etccccc and surely i wouldnt get jail time
00:06:00 <ld0g> but who knows..
00:06:00 <ld0g> someone said to me its only a bit of gear at the end of the day not like im a pedo or violent offender
00:13:00 <electrohead> well, the government will flat out refuse to help you, if you refuse to help yourself. and you being honest and said you had meth yesterday, well.. seems as you're not helping yourself in anyway possible
00:13:00 <electrohead> just got to be honest
00:14:00 <electrohead> maybe a prison sentence of that long will knock some sense into you?
00:14:00 <electrohead> regardless though, I do hope everything works out, and you learn from your past mistakes
00:14:00 <electrohead> *hope*
00:14:00 <electrohead> hope is always a big word
01:00:00 <electrohead> I went to the store for a bit
01:05:00 <ld0g> :)
08:06:00 <electrohead> lol, hey man :p
08:14:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hey man whats doing
08:14:00 <electrohead> nothing too much, enjoying a day oof
08:14:00 <electrohead> off*
08:14:00 <electrohead> you?
08:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> enjoying my first time off before work this afternoon for the last 5 days
08:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> ive done 12 hours for the last 4 days and im on day 16 straight
08:17:00 <electrohead> damn
08:17:00 <electrohead> well, enjoy lol
08:18:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yeah i got 2 more days then i get a full day off
08:18:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> on friday im taking my son to Movieworld
08:34:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> fuck yes
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17:02:00 <ld0g> [16:44:47] 12.5yrs jail
17:02:00 <ld0g> [16:44:54] judge read out
17:02:00 <ld0g> [16:45:08] is what im looking at
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19:45:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hey ^bozojim
19:45:00 <^bozojim> hello Snoopys_Gunship
20:12:00 <gremlinz> evenings
20:12:00 <gremlinz> gentlebeans
21:00:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> no it is
21:03:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> god i wonder where Bonny is
21:10:00 <^bozojim> no idea
21:22:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hmmmm i might have to call her soon
21:27:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> wait
21:27:00 <Bonny> hey there..
21:27:00 <Bonny> HEY Snoopys_Gunship!!: {{{{{{{ Bite Me }}}}}}}.
21:27:00 <^bozojim> hello Bonny
21:27:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yup its her LOL
21:28:00 <Bonny> hey ^bozojim
21:28:00 <Bonny> lol
21:28:00 <Bonny> I
21:28:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> I?
21:28:00 <ld0g> heya Bonny
21:28:00 <Bonny> Im at my mums..
21:28:00 <Bonny> hey ld0g
21:28:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh right
21:28:00 <Bonny> yeah she was in hospital today getting biopsy done so I thoughht I willl stay with her tonight
21:28:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> awwww arent you sweet hun :)
21:29:00 <Bonny> too sweet.. *puke*
21:29:00 <^bozojim> at least it is not bite snoops as what eh has is even known little alone treatable
21:29:00 <^bozojim> lol
21:29:00 <Bonny> lol
21:29:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hey me and eh had a relationship noone will have ;)
21:31:00 <Bonny> so what's new?
21:31:00 <^bozojim> not a lot
21:33:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> well some dude was on our roof today
21:33:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> fuck knows what he is doing but nothing more has been done
21:33:00 <Bonny> oh they're doing the tiling?
21:34:00 <Bonny> oh
21:34:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> wait what tiles
21:34:00 <Bonny> roof tiles
21:35:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> we arent using roof tiles
21:35:00 <Bonny> what are you using?
21:35:00 <Bonny> tin roof?
21:37:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yeah tin with alot of insulation
21:37:00 <Bonny> cool
21:37:00 <Bonny> colorbond?
21:37:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> sort of yeah
21:38:00 <Bonny> how is it sort of?
21:38:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> its not colorbond so to speak
21:38:00 <Bonny> ok
21:38:00 <Bonny> what is it?
21:38:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> its hard to explain
21:38:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> but its not tile lol
21:38:00 <Bonny> lol
21:40:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> ill go tomorrow to see if they have done anything
21:40:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh ill be on all night mon tues night
21:40:00 <Bonny> cool
21:40:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> im at builmba all next week
21:41:00 <Bonny> ahh ok
21:43:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> fuck this song is good
21:43:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> Relize by AC/DC
21:43:00 <Bonny> yeah AC/DC were gods
21:44:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> were come on they are gods
21:44:00 <Bonny> lol
21:44:00 <Bonny> in the music industry years ago
21:44:00 <Bonny> oh you're saying they're still gods?
21:44:00 <Bonny> yes they are
21:45:00 <Bonny> sorry got confused there lol
21:45:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yeah they are still pumping music out
21:45:00 <Bonny> sure are
21:45:00 <^bozojim> give me our first fab 4 anyday
21:46:00 <^bozojim> Athol Guy, Bruce Woodley, Keith Potger and Judith Durham
21:46:00 <Bonny> the seekers?
21:46:00 <^bozojim> yes
21:46:00 <Bonny> each to their own.. :P
21:47:00 <^bozojim> lol
21:48:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> still tho
21:48:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> the best band EVER is The Cranberries
21:48:00 <Bonny> hmmm
21:48:00 <Bonny> what about the beatles?
21:49:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> nope the beatles came close but no cigar
21:50:00 <Bonny> my cat is giving me the greasies
22:01:00 <ld0g> tnx
22:01:00 <Bonny> no worries
22:01:00 <Bonny> how are you?
22:01:00 <ld0g> i went in for urine testing today and i couldnt pee
22:01:00 <Bonny> I've had that happen to me b4.. hehe
22:01:00 <^bozojim> oh
22:02:00 <ld0g> its like hard when u dont have to go lol
22:02:00 <Bonny> yup
22:02:00 <ld0g> if i cant do it they breach you so im unsure next time if i cant either .. have to do this mon, wed, fri...
22:03:00 <ld0g> they said dont worry its your first time
22:03:00 <Bonny> ok
22:03:00 <Bonny> at least they were a bit lenient
22:03:00 <ld0g> yeah
22:03:00 <Bonny> so how did court go
22:03:00 <Bonny> ?
22:03:00 <ld0g> but what do i have to do wait there all day i suppose ?
22:04:00 <Bonny> don't go to the toilet b4 you need to give a urine test
22:04:00 <ld0g> yeah they accepted me for assessment so now im on curfew and have to start urine test 3x a week
22:04:00 <Bonny> good
22:04:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> ok its time for me to go ill speak to yas tomrorow sometime
22:04:00 <ld0g> and they will call in a few weeks or something to sort out more stuff before my next court date in a month?
22:04:00 <Bonny> night snoops.. *hugz*
22:05:00 <Bonny> did you get the same legal aid solicitor?
22:05:00 <ld0g> yeah hes going to represent me as they split the charges into two courts
22:05:00 <Bonny> cool
22:05:00 <ld0g> one in magisterate court for the charges of possession cannbis and possession drug paraph
22:06:00 <ld0g> and the more serious charges are being heard in district court
22:06:00 <Bonny> what's the more serious charge?
22:08:00 <ld0g> Possession of a Prohibited Drug With Intent to Sell or Supply (Methylamphetamine)
22:08:00 <Bonny> were you selling meth?
22:08:00 <ld0g> 2x Attempt to Possess Prohibited Drugs with Intent to Sell or Supply
22:08:00 <Bonny> I thought you were just using?
22:08:00 <ld0g> i sold to a few ppl
22:08:00 <Bonny> ahhh
22:09:00 <ld0g> i will be sentenced in august
22:09:00 <Bonny> they found you guilty?
22:10:00 <ld0g> i pleaded guilty already
22:10:00 <Bonny> ahh ok
22:10:00 <Bonny> so it saves going thru trial
22:10:00 <ld0g> yeah u get a 50% discount for early guilty plea
22:10:00 <Bonny> yup
22:11:00 <ld0g> i dont need to do drug court my lawyer didnt even advise it
22:11:00 <ld0g> u know so..
22:11:00 <Bonny> ok
22:12:00 <ld0g> i dont see myself doing jail time however
22:12:00 <ld0g> they dont like meth
22:12:00 <Bonny> nah I don't think you'll go to jail
22:13:00 <ld0g> its the 16 grams in the mail
22:13:00 <Bonny> not too much
22:13:00 <ld0g> yeah i know coz they got the first one april 21 and the 2nd was exactly one week april 28th
22:14:00 <ld0g> and i was using 7g a week myself
22:14:00 <ld0g> and selling 3g..
22:14:00 <Bonny> ok
22:14:00 <ld0g> so its not much by any means
22:14:00 <Bonny> they might fine you
22:15:00 <ld0g> yeah i understand there must be consequences but wahts a fine going to achieve?
22:15:00 <Bonny> I know right
22:15:00 <ld0g> when im not working
22:15:00 <ld0g> so i might ask my lawyer to push for community service / volunteer work
22:15:00 <ld0g> instead of a fine
22:15:00 <Bonny> you're on jobseeker aren't you?
22:15:00 <Bonny> yeah community service is a good idea
22:15:00 <ld0g> and it gets me out the house
22:16:00 <Bonny> yup
22:16:00 <Bonny> meet people
22:16:00 <ld0g> better than a fine that is only going to make it harder for me
22:16:00 <ld0g> and prob end back into dealing to survive
22:16:00 <ld0g> coz its just what it is'
22:16:00 <ld0g> vicious cycle
22:17:00 <ld0g> but then i got to realize that they prob dont give a fuck end of day
22:17:00 <ld0g> hopefully get a decent judge
22:17:00 <Bonny> yeah
22:17:00 <ld0g> who doesn't label you
22:17:00 <Bonny> but you know you can get drugs in jail
22:18:00 <ld0g> yeah if people wanna use drugs they will
22:18:00 <Bonny> yup
22:18:00 <ld0g> im a believer that where all consenting adults
22:19:00 <ld0g> end of the day my low level dealing was with other consenting adults
22:19:00 <ld0g> and its not like anyone could come get shit from me
22:19:00 <Bonny> true
22:19:00 <ld0g> but alas war on drugs
22:20:00 <ld0g> stupid
22:20:00 <ld0g> they should dump more into health
22:20:00 <ld0g> then people wouldnt turn to drugs in the first place
22:21:00 <ld0g> australia is a bad place anyway for the shit
22:21:00 <ld0g> coz of the prices
22:21:00 <Bonny> europe is worse
22:21:00 <ld0g> cant tell me the higher up people here arent involved authorities
22:22:00 <Bonny> there's corruption everywhere
22:23:00 <ld0g> we're only one person the system aint goin change and unfortunately my choice is obey or..
22:24:00 <ld0g> just wanna get healthy and lead a better life to be honest
22:24:00 <Bonny> yeah.. health is important
22:24:00 <ld0g> fuck the drugs, fuck the police
22:24:00 <ld0g> aint important
22:24:00 <Bonny> and poor health also has poor lifestyle
22:24:00 <ld0g> when it comes down to it
22:24:00 <ld0g> health is more important at this stage of my life
22:25:00 <ld0g> :/
22:25:00 <Bonny> yup.. :)
22:25:00 <ld0g> im at the cross roads and even i can see it
22:25:00 <Bonny> did judge say anything about rehab?
22:25:00 <ld0g> that judge wasnt even goin accept me into drug court
22:26:00 <ld0g> she thought i was just a dealer
22:26:00 <ld0g> and was looking hard at something
22:26:00 <ld0g> telling me if police intel shows im dealing again i will be automatically kicked out
22:26:00 <ld0g> even if
22:26:00 <ld0g> im not charged with any further crimes?
22:26:00 <ld0g> i was thinking wtf
22:27:00 <Bonny> wtf
22:27:00 <ld0g> u cant do that cunt
22:27:00 <ld0g> just coz police might show her something
22:27:00 <ld0g> thats the power they have here
22:27:00 <Bonny> yup
22:27:00 <Bonny> unfortunately?
22:27:00 <Bonny> !
22:27:00 <ld0g> there really is no innocent until proven guilty
22:28:00 <Bonny> it should be innocent until proven until guilty
22:28:00 <Bonny> like if you were a big shot drug dealer.. you wouldn't be using legal aid.. you'd get a top notch solicitor
22:29:00 <ld0g> yeah exactly
22:30:00 <ld0g> they will try and recoup there costs in fines i bet
22:30:00 <Bonny> yup
22:30:00 <ld0g> but im not employed
22:30:00 <ld0g> so its coming from one gov account
22:30:00 <ld0g> to another
22:30:00 <ld0g> lol
22:30:00 <Bonny> you don't pay solicitor but there is the judge and other court costs
22:31:00 <ld0g> yeah ive asked for a referral to rehab lady said she noted it down and someone will be in touch
22:31:00 <ld0g> its all a process
22:31:00 <ld0g> that takes time
22:31:00 <ld0g> by the looks
22:31:00 <Bonny> yeah..
22:32:00 <Bonny> at least you took the initiative tho.. that will look good for you
22:32:00 <ld0g> i might self refer to rehab anyway
22:32:00 <Bonny> yeah do that
22:33:00 <ld0g> i;ll go on friday once i fail the urine test again
22:33:00 <Bonny> so not being able to pee means you fail auto?
22:34:00 <ld0g> yeah u have to be able to provide urine sample miss a few times 3 times i think they kick u out
22:34:00 <Bonny> oh wow
22:35:00 <ld0g> just clear head and try not think u have urine test then go do it hah i dunno
22:35:00 <Bonny> hehehe
22:35:00 <ld0g> sure might be able to something
22:35:00 <ld0g> if not all good
22:35:00 <Bonny> do you think it might be nerves as to why you can't provide a urine sample?
22:36:00 <ld0g> ive just never had to do it at a time
22:36:00 <ld0g> u know
22:36:00 <Bonny> yeah
22:36:00 <ld0g> i go when i need too..
22:36:00 <Bonny> yup
22:36:00 <ld0g> not on command
22:36:00 <ld0g> my body doesnt work like that
22:36:00 <ld0g> my body tells me when i need to go.. not someone
22:37:00 <ld0g> at a certain time
22:37:00 <ld0g> haha
22:37:00 <Bonny> yeah but you need to provide the sample
22:37:00 <ld0g> if u cant u cant shouldnt stress about it
22:38:00 <ld0g> i stress about shit like that
22:38:00 <ld0g> and its prob why alot of times
22:38:00 <ld0g> coz ur thinking about it
22:38:00 <Bonny> and the stressing makes it worse
22:38:00 <ld0g> i think they could see that
22:38:00 <Bonny> yeah
22:38:00 <ld0g> and told me to relax take 20mins
22:38:00 <Bonny> ok
22:38:00 <ld0g> go do what u need to and come back
22:38:00 <ld0g> try again
22:38:00 <ld0g> but couldnt
22:39:00 <ld0g> so least they see that i tried
22:39:00 <ld0g> and wasnt 'avoiding it
22:39:00 <Bonny> what about if you give them a semen sample? lol
22:39:00 <^bozojim> lol
22:39:00 <ld0g> lol
22:39:00 <ld0g> exactly
22:39:00 <Bonny> lol
22:39:00 <ld0g> that would be easier
22:39:00 <ld0g> hahaha
22:39:00 <Bonny> yup lol
22:40:00 <ld0g> ur funny i was goin say just take my blood but imagine they take ur blood 3x a week for a year
22:40:00 <Bonny> yeah that's a lot of blood
22:40:00 <ld0g> then u got fuck all left walking around like a zombie
22:45:00 <Bonny> hehehe
23:04:00 <^bozojim> hi electrohead
23:05:00 <electrohead> lol
23:05:00 <electrohead> hey ^bozojim
23:06:00 <electrohead> good morning/evening/afternoon/night
23:06:00 <Bonny> o/~ electrohead
23:06:00 <electrohead> there, everything is covered
23:33:00 <Bonny> lol
23:46:00 <Bonny> electrohead has their tongue rattle in the back of their mouth!
23:46:00 <Bonny> hey JJ
23:46:00 <JJ> hi Bonny
23:47:00 <JJ> 12.5 yrs jail for ld0g ? :S
23:47:00 <Bonny> yeah that's a long time eh
23:47:00 <JJ> that sounds a bit harsh
23:47:00 <Bonny> yeah I don't think he will be jailed tho
23:48:00 <JJ> murders get more time
23:48:00 <Bonny> yup
23:48:00 <JJ> hmm ok
23:48:00 <JJ> then why would he say it ?
23:54:00 <Bonny> he said that's what the judge said