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00:51:00 <eddie> phew what an afternoon / evening...
00:52:00 <eddie> drove over 120km with 2 visits to a hospital...
01:29:00 <eddie> just had a nice coffee :)
01:37:00 <electrohead> :)
01:37:00 <electrohead> how's you, today?
01:37:00 <eddie> been busy and now doing some rough coding.. might explain why I have not upgraded the OS on this main PC
01:38:00 <electrohead> lol
01:38:00 <electrohead> what OS?
01:38:00 <eddie> moo: os: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional - Service Pack 1 (6.1.7601)
01:38:00 <electrohead> ew.
01:39:00 <eddie> I have about 6 spare win 10 pro coa and have some enterprise coa stuff
01:40:00 <eddie> trouble is I have far too many things that only work under vindoze
01:40:00 <eddie> I would swap fully to linux if everything worked on that
02:40:00 <electrohead> what's "everything"?
02:40:00 <electrohead> lol
12:57:00 <Devil45> ah
13:03:00 <electrohead> ha
13:32:00 <***> Buffer Playback...
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13:32:00 <*buffextras> [12:53:20] [email protected] set mode: +o Devil45
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:04:18] hi Devil45
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:05:22] howdy.
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:05:29] how's it going?
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:05:37] as well as can be expected.
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:05:44] cool
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:05:50] thats what yesterday was
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:05:57] very cool - chilly in fact
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:06:08] weather?
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:06:13] yup it was like july
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:06:22] yeah well it's nearly winter
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:06:34] yet the long term forecast shows 23 next week
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:06:39] thats not too bad
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:06:42] true
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:06:50] the overnight temps may be around 10 - 15
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:06:57] so not freezing
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:07:02] we have a mild winter in australia comparing to europe and america
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:07:05] i call that "comfy"
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:07:08] yup
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:07:21] now if it was 32 with 20 overnight - different story
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:07:27] especially with humidity
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:07:28] true
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:07:51] we had our planned power cut yesterday but instead of being 4 hours or more it was only 1 and some
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:08:04] oh that's good
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:08:13] i guess they fixed the damage last week that blacked us out for over 3 hours
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:08:19] yeah
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:08:35] imagine waking up to go to the bathroom and seeing all the streetlights out
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:08:41] yeah
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:08:49] SAPN said it was equipment damage
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:08:59] it'd be weirder for me as I'm on a main road
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:09:10] and they werent dicking around either - they got right on it and fixed it inside that time frame
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:09:27] so nothing but + for them :)
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:09:31] yup
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:09:45] they got my number from agl probably
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:10:03] so they notified in advance and if there is an outage when power is expected to be restored
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:10:14] cool
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:10:25] that's good service
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:10:27] as i say + for them
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:10:40] if my lights flicker ill call em
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:10:59] and they will look at the outside line
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:11:09] ok
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:11:10] usually trees cause trouble
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:11:18] yup
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:11:23] such as branches
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:11:32] or in windy weather where they cause 2 wires to touch
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:11:55] yup
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:12:08] ever see birds perched on lines? they dont get a shock because one wire has no current by itself. they have to connect to a 2nd wire to complete the circuit.
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:12:18] its like a neutral
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:12:21] yeah I know
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:12:26] but fruit bats
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:12:32] have a larger wing span
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:12:39] so they risk electrocution
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:12:45] yeah
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:13:11] only time birds get a problem is in hot weather.
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:13:58] or should i say "b1rd gets a problem in hot weather"
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:14:00] hello electrohead
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:14:10] heya :p
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:14:13] hey Devil45
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:14:14] couldnt resist.
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:14:21] sup electrolytic er electrohead
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:14:30] i got capacitors on the brain today
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:15:03] did you just get home from work, electrohead?
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:15:43] I got off at 8 pm, but a friend of mine wanted the last four 4-packs of a product, so I took them over to her after work
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:16:02] that was nice of you.. :)
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:16:29] she was going to drive all the way down to where I work, but I simply told her not to waste the gas :p
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:16:39] it helps that she is female too lol
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:16:40] we live in the same town, and where I work, is a good 15-20 minute drive
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:16:45] lol :p
13:32:00 <Bonny> [13:16:49] :P
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:16:59] Devil45: what kind of board did you re-cap?
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:17:12] a power supply
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:17:16] made in japan too
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:17:30] its part of an AV receiver
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:17:41] the most I've seen was on my old thinkcentre, 80% of the caps on the motherboard were ruptured, yet it still powered on and ran, heh
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:17:44] some people like keeping vintage audio gear
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:18:17] this was a TECHNICS receiver from the late 80s.
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:18:18] I have a friend that will be sending me an older audio receiver soon to repair :)
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:18:28] the amp stages work fine
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:18:33] inputs ok
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:18:43] spkr prot as its labelled - ok
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:18:50] lol
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:18:55] just crapped out power supply section
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:19:04] was it only the caps?
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:19:04] it didnt blow anything else up
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:19:06] yea
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:19:09] got lucky, then
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:19:12] lol
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:19:12] bunch of dead electros
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:19:15] 4 burst
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:19:24] 4 leaking. and 2 bulged
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:19:31] 3 open
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:20:26] always low value that fails. the 1 �F up to 100 �F
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:22:37] so i just went ahead and did a bulk recap
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:23:28] yeah I normally replace all of them as well
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:23:29] i checked the FETs as well in case a bad cap had shorted one of them. nope. all good.
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:23:36] surprisingly it was just caps
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:23:41] nothing else damaged
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:23:51] sometimes coupling caps can take things out
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:23:59] the power supply in my dell 24 port switch was bad, so I replaced all the caps first, and *poof* powered on
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:24:02] :D
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:24:03] blowing drivers FETs or choppers
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:24:05] I love simple fixes <3
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:24:06] even ICs
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:24:27] i read somewhere that Rubycon caps are junk
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:24:43] its like the Elna ones from the 70s
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:24:59] half of the capacitors made anymore are junk, as most electronic components are out-sourced to chinesium companies >.<
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:25:06] Nichicon is best or low leakage 105�C Hitanos
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:25:26] never use 85�C caps in a switching supply
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:25:34] lol
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:25:37] thats what the originals were
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:25:45] nope. must replace with 105
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:26:19] the good thing is the new ones are the same physical size as the originals - obviously i stuck to the same values and voltages as well as polarity.
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:26:30] so it resulted in a "neat and tidy fix"
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:26:46] nothing went bang at switch-on either so i knew id got it right
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:27:34] ever replace a radial cap with an axial?
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:27:43] never
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:27:59] I had to a few times, because my local electronics store didn't have the correct value as a radial, but they had axials
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:28:02] heh
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:28:08] only ever replaced axials with radials if there were no replacements of a value available
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:28:21] in axials
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:28:53] e.g. a 63 v 100 axial - cant replace with exact type? fit a radial of same value and voltage
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:29:25] on a side note - you may like my web site, and some of the projects/my setup?
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:29:27] the way i do it is to "splay the leads" (spread them apart evenly with the cap body in the middle) it works just as well as an axial
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:29:40] heh, yeah I've done that as well
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:29:48] but if i can get axials of a certain value for a circuit i will
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:29:59] ive seen resistors bent over
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:30:04] instead of laying down
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:30:27] and in one case - 2 connected in series to make up a weird value
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:30:47] when in doubt, improvise :p
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:30:48] was reading a service article about those components
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:31:02] someone claimed connecting 2 caps in series doubles the value - no it doesnt.
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:31:08] connecting them in parallel does
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:31:08] do you have a web site or any documentation about the repairs you do?
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:31:26] nah i just do it as a sideline for some folks
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:31:30] ahh
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:31:33] its not an official 9 to 5 business
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:31:38] https://hellnet.xyz
13:32:00 <electrohead> [13:31:41] you can look if you want
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:31:51] connecting 2 resistors in series increases value
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:31:57] why do so many get that backwards?
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:32:15] and one guy couldnt read bumblebee cap values
13:32:00 <Devil45> [13:32:30] remember those awful black caps that looked like big resistors?
13:32:00 <***> Playback Complete.
13:33:00 <electrohead> I'd have to visually take a look, to remember
13:33:00 <Devil45> the way its done is to read the colour bands as if it was a resistor then decimalize the value
13:33:00 <electrohead> I deal with a lot of repairs, anymore. it all becomes a blur
13:34:00 <Devil45> e.g. yellow purple orange = 470 which as a cap, would probably be around .1 �F (depending on how you read it)
13:34:00 <electrohead> https://www.rustyrailbrewing.com/brews/year-round/page.aspx?id=4422
13:34:00 <Devil45> i made that mistake with a HMV set once
13:34:00 <electrohead> we've been getting a lot of rusty rail products in, down at the store
13:34:00 <Devil45> misread the value and blew the horizontal up
13:35:00 <Devil45> not cool red-plating the output tube
13:35:00 <Devil45> its complex and thank god i dont do many tvs these days. all the headaches
13:36:00 <Devil45> the hardest part of any old tube tv is IF alignment.
13:36:00 <Devil45> been there done that bought the t-shirt
13:37:00 <Devil45> beats me why some people need to tweak IF cans
13:37:00 <Devil45> without the proper equipment such as signal/frequency generators and scopes
13:38:00 <Devil45> "oh ill just stick a screwdriver in here and turn it a bit to make it better" = the amateur.
13:38:00 <electrohead> are you calling me an amateur?
13:38:00 <Devil45> no
13:38:00 <electrohead> :P
13:38:00 <Devil45> that was a general statement
13:38:00 <Devil45> based on articles ive read
13:39:00 <Devil45> and what ive seen first hand
13:39:00 <Devil45> the IF should never need adjusting
13:39:00 <Devil45> its the least likely to "drift" in operation compared to deflection and sync
13:40:00 <Devil45> the tech i once worked with used to call those people who fiddled in the backs of sets "tweakers"
13:40:00 <Devil45> 'always tweaking pots and controls"
13:41:00 <Devil45> but no - wasnt saying YOU are an amateur. some people are though
13:42:00 <Devil45> the electrowizard - no way - not amateur.
13:43:00 <electrohead> it.. was only a joke
13:43:00 <Devil45> i got it but not into it today
13:43:00 <Devil45> i guess frustration hit me
13:43:00 <electrohead> I can tell
13:43:00 <Devil45> i blame the cold spell
13:43:00 <electrohead> and I never said I'm a wizard
13:43:00 <Devil45> and old age
13:43:00 <electrohead> well, wait
13:44:00 <electrohead> can you make me a wizard?
13:44:00 <electrohead> :P
13:44:00 <Devil45> there was a song once - pinball wizard
13:45:00 <Devil45> i wonder if sir elton john could come up with electro wizard as a song for the modern age..
13:47:00 <electrohead> I have a better mustache than Weird Al.
13:47:00 <Devil45> if i take a pic of weird al from the 80s and pair him up with doug ashdown from the 70s id swear theyd be twins
13:48:00 <Devil45> doug ashdown - did that winter in america song in 1974/76
13:48:00 <Devil45> weird al doesnt have a moustache these days
13:48:00 <Devil45> back then he did.
13:49:00 <electrohead> exactly why I said that
13:49:00 <electrohead> :P
13:49:00 <Devil45> weird al poked fun at iggy azalea
13:50:00 <Devil45> but nothing beats his original works - such as eat it
13:52:00 <Bonny> Devil45.. you should do a website about all the things you know.. :)
13:53:00 <electrohead> totally
13:53:00 <electrohead> I'd check it out
13:59:00 <electrohead> seems like Devil45 died on us
13:59:00 <Bonny> didn't like the beer?
14:00:00 <electrohead> that sounds wrong
14:00:00 <electrohead> lol
14:00:00 <Bonny> very
14:00:00 <Bonny> lol
14:00:00 <electrohead> ooo, reminds me of a song
14:00:00 <Bonny> which song>
14:00:00 <Bonny> ?
14:00:00 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWmTTab8pdI
14:00:00 <electrohead> I'm sorry.
14:01:00 <electrohead> lol
14:01:00 <Bonny> lol
14:01:00 <Devil45> speaking of songs... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR0UFpvPTRY
14:01:00 <Devil45> if you owned a bunch of various artists lps back then youd remember this
14:03:00 <Devil45> no its not nutbush
14:03:00 <Devil45> i remember lwaxana hating that song
14:03:00 <Bonny> she didn't like much
14:04:00 <Devil45> thats doug ashdown
14:04:00 <electrohead> I don't know that song
14:04:00 <Devil45> i delberately loaded up ike and tina to piss her off once
14:04:00 <electrohead> lwaxana?
14:04:00 <Devil45> winter in america is an underrated song electrohead
14:04:00 <Devil45> it was on scorcher
14:05:00 <Devil45> back when they designed cheeky cover art for records
14:05:00 <Devil45> like RIPPER
14:05:00 <Devil45> nowadays you cant get away with RIPPER '76 cover art - as it might offend someone.
14:06:00 <electrohead> who cares about offending people?
14:06:00 <Devil45> lwaxana was an oper here a while back
14:06:00 <Devil45> doesnt offend me i have the record :D
14:06:00 <electrohead> people get offended over anything, anymore
14:06:00 <electrohead> woot
14:06:00 <Devil45> only because its got convoy on it
14:06:00 <Devil45> a trucking song
14:07:00 <Devil45> back when CB radio was popular
14:07:00 <electrohead> oh shit
14:07:00 <electrohead> I actually know that song
14:07:00 <electrohead> it's in GTA V - a game
14:08:00 <Devil45> there you go - convoy - original - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYTX7parRw
14:09:00 <Devil45> and the RIPPER '76 record its on - https://img.discogs.com/mFH4gGN_A95IisahWo2KsAR2i1A=/fit-in/600x597/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4672607-1371801593-4890.jpeg.jpg
14:10:00 <Devil45> and yes thin lizzy - the boys are back in town is also on it
14:12:00 <Devil45> a must for mums k-tel record selector
14:12:00 <electrohead> I have a feeling that even though I opened the links you sent, you didn't open a single one that I posted :P
14:13:00 <Devil45> im not really into beers
14:14:00 <Devil45> oh the other one
14:14:00 <Devil45> ah - i didnt scroll far enough down
14:15:00 <Devil45> [ A more proper title should go here, but I can't really think of one, other than: this is a collection of my work, projects, etc. Enjoy. ] <- i wouldnt know that if i didnt open the page.
14:15:00 <Devil45> This site proudly made, using only vim, under linux, and maintained by giraffes on alcohol.
14:15:00 <Devil45> very fitting
14:17:00 <electrohead> I think it is as well
14:17:00 <electrohead> :p
14:17:00 <electrohead> yeah I made that purely from scratch
14:18:00 <Devil45> nice touch mentioning MOSFETs in a project
14:18:00 <electrohead> I did look online for ideas for the projects page and the javascript to show/hide the content, other than that, yeah from scratch, and just messing around
14:18:00 <electrohead> do have a lot more projects I should probably put on there, but, shall get to it another time
14:19:00 <Devil45> a lot of switching supplies use them.
14:19:00 <Devil45> ive not seen many without at least a FET or MOSFET or 2.
14:19:00 <electrohead> oh, and the duct tape within my ham rig will be gone soon, just got more proper wire management sh'tuff
14:19:00 <Devil45> i call them VIPs (very important parts)
14:20:00 <electrohead> within the next week or two, I will properly mount all the wires
14:20:00 <Devil45> use cable ties or a harness
14:20:00 <Devil45> tape is crude
14:20:00 <Devil45> and eventually sweats
14:20:00 <Devil45> and peels off
14:21:00 <Devil45> ties work wonders for loose wiring
14:22:00 <Devil45> speaking of duct tape ...
14:22:00 <Devil45> ... had a boombox come my way a while back with its handle all taped up
14:22:00 <electrohead> lol
14:22:00 <Devil45> when i removed the tape i could see a bodgie glue job.
14:23:00 <Devil45> i guess the handle broke at some point so it was glued and taped
14:23:00 <electrohead> yeah I just had a shit ton of cable ties and sticky pads, with wire hangers integrated, order and shipped recently
14:23:00 <Devil45> i replaced the handle with one from a junked rig i had
14:23:00 <Devil45> yup
14:23:00 <electrohead> man, I changed up my ham rig so many times
14:24:00 <Devil45> not only did the junker handle look better it was stronger
14:24:00 <electrohead> the duct tape was actually a decent idea, because I moved everything .. at least 10 times, now?
14:24:00 <electrohead> lol
14:24:00 <Devil45> the mountings it slid into were fine - the handle itself was broken
14:24:00 <Devil45> i wouldnt use duct tape in electronics - not for wiring harness
14:25:00 <Devil45> id use electrical tape
14:25:00 <Devil45> not the cheap crap that comes in pretty colours either. the proper black high grade stuff
14:25:00 <Devil45> but i suppose duct tape can work in small areas
14:25:00 <Devil45> where there is no stress
14:26:00 <Devil45> you should see a rig i once came across - someone had taped the loose wires up inside - but with masking tape
14:26:00 <Devil45> masking tape is basically paper
14:26:00 <electrohead> ouch
14:26:00 <Devil45> ugh no way
14:26:00 <Devil45> i used ties for that one
14:26:00 <Devil45> :o)
14:27:00 <Devil45> masking tape is ideal for painting or re-coating.. not wiring
14:30:00 <electrohead> I just recently finished painting all PVC pipe on my porch railings, matte black
14:30:00 <electrohead> :)
14:31:00 <electrohead> all my antenna match, lol
14:31:00 <Devil45> https://hellnet.xyz/media/jpg/projects/imme01.jpg - imagine modifying that for bluetooth.
14:31:00 <Devil45> better not give him ideas ;p
14:37:00 <electrohead> I already have ideas
14:37:00 <electrohead> :P
14:38:00 <Devil45> you could probably make it to open a neighbours garage
14:40:00 <electrohead> I have other gear for that :P
14:40:00 <electrohead> lol
14:40:00 <Devil45> yea hacking is common
14:40:00 <Devil45> some of it useful
14:40:00 <Devil45> some criminal
14:41:00 <Devil45> such as jamming police radios
14:41:00 <electrohead> you'd be beyond an asshole if you did that ;)
14:41:00 <Devil45> yea
14:42:00 <Devil45> more fun to "locally hack" meaning inside the home - as a fun project
14:42:00 <electrohead> I did just under 9 years active duty military, and currently in the process of a digital forensics career
14:42:00 <Devil45> say, making something that turns your lights on with a voice
14:42:00 <Devil45> as opposed to clapping
14:42:00 <electrohead> lol
14:43:00 <Devil45> thats a hack of sorts
14:43:00 <electrohead> I just run commands from my laptop :P
14:43:00 <Devil45> or you can plug something in, and command it by voice to turn on or off
14:43:00 <Devil45> such as a fan
14:44:00 <Devil45> i know there were scanners that "listened" to police frequencies
14:44:00 <electrohead> stock scanners? yeah, a long time ago
14:44:00 <Devil45> some fool taped it
14:44:00 <electrohead> nowadays, you don't need hardware scanners
14:44:00 <electrohead> SDR all the way.
14:45:00 <Devil45> i dont need to hack anything - if i want to access i ask (via a prompt or valid code/pass)
14:45:00 <Devil45> hacking (the illegal kind) is for noobs
14:46:00 <Devil45> id rather do it simple - a code or key and im in.
14:46:00 <Devil45> none of this sneaky shit
14:47:00 <Devil45> but i stopped doing projects years ago.
14:47:00 <Devil45> which included mods
14:48:00 <Devil45> so i admire some of yourson that site.
14:59:00 <Devil45> if my calendar is correct, this year should be the same as 1982 - meaning my birthday falls on a thursday - just as it did back then. coolness.
15:00:00 <electrohead> \o/
15:00:00 <electrohead> sorry, got busy a tiny bit
15:00:00 <electrohead> I'm off tomorrow, so I'm taking my good ol' time fucking off xD
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18:57:00 <doggyrat> hello
18:58:00 <doggyrat> doggyrat's favorite bakery shop https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jms94jqbe5qzap0/AABSzQznTd31Rn3W3DQXIOx1a?dl=0
19:21:00 <Bonny> that is the reason you don't lose weight.. :P
19:21:00 <doggyrat> yes , i am afraid it is , but everything there look so tasteful
19:22:00 <Bonny> you have to learn not to go near there.. :)
19:22:00 <Bonny> like my weakness is ice cream.. I try hard to not buy any
19:23:00 <doggyrat> talking about ice cream does your brother's business still exist
19:23:00 <Bonny> yes
19:24:00 <doggyrat> he is producing ice cream in a kind of factory
19:24:00 <Bonny> no
19:24:00 <Bonny> he doesn't do that
19:25:00 <doggyrat> just producing smaller quantities and selling that by ice cream trucks
19:26:00 <Bonny> the soft serve machine is in the truck and puts some mix in the machine and it creates soft serve ice cream
19:28:00 <doggyrat> those need to be clean everyday to avoid causing diarrhea
19:28:00 <Bonny> what diarrhoea?
19:28:00 <Bonny> it doesn't cause diarrhoea
19:29:00 <doggyrat> hello
19:29:00 <doggyrat> hello ^bozojim
19:29:00 <doggyrat> hello Bonny
19:29:00 <doggyrat> hello jj
19:30:00 <doggyrat> hello gremlinz
19:33:00 <doggyrat> if it does not get clean regularly it can :P
19:33:00 <Bonny> nope..
19:34:00 <doggyrat> how many trucks does your brother have
19:34:00 <Bonny> I don't know
19:34:00 <doggyrat> do you have any plans for the weekend
19:36:00 <doggyrat> how was your test working day, how long have you been working
19:36:00 <doggyrat> how many hours
19:36:00 <Bonny> I haven't started workihng
19:37:00 <Bonny> I don't know if I got the job
19:37:00 <^bozojim> hello doggyrat
19:40:00 <JedStar> evening
19:42:00 <doggyrat> you told me that he as sick and that you would do trail work on monday or tuesday
19:42:00 <doggyrat> hello JedStar
19:43:00 <Bonny> yes I did trial.. doesn't mean I got the job
19:43:00 <Bonny> I don't know if I got the job. I'm still waiting to hear
19:43:00 <doggyrat> i have learned a lesion yesterday not making any promises without checking the costs
19:44:00 <doggyrat> how was the trial work and how many hours did you work
19:45:00 <Bonny> 2 hours.. it went ok
19:45:00 <doggyrat> the parcel to switzerland did cost me 18 euro Aus$ 28 considering that he got the headset holder for free including leds and arduino that doubled my costs
19:46:00 <doggyrat> that sound not to bad , so why should not get the job then, or are there more people applying for the job
19:46:00 <Bonny> there are others applying
19:47:00 <doggyrat> apart of that it caused trouble with my wife , telling me you paid for the material , invested time and gave a donation to the makerspace and now giving it away for free plus paying the dispatch
19:48:00 <doggyrat> yesterday i did eat two cream sticks after donating plasma , it was my reward
19:48:00 <Bonny> uhuh
19:48:00 <Bonny> so 1 wasn't enuff? lol
19:49:00 <doggyrat> normally i do eat the Krapfen with chocolate or vanilla cream and sugar coverage
19:49:00 <Bonny> ok
19:49:00 <doggyrat> task: find the items in the pictures :P
19:50:00 <doggyrat> but being out for a run yesterday early evening meeting some of my dog buddies made me feel much better and ended this episode as made some negative decision but it can not be changed
19:51:00 <doggyrat> doggyrat's favorite bakery shop https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jms94jqbe5qzap0/AABSzQznTd31Rn3W3DQXIOx1a?dl=0
19:53:00 <doggyrat> they told me that they killed all the calories with singing :P so no worries eating all that yummy food
19:54:00 <Bonny> what pictures?
19:54:00 <doggyrat> i guess i must have gained weight from drinking to much water :)
19:55:00 <doggyrat> in the pictures of the shop desk on my dropbox
19:55:00 <doggyrat> did you not look at the yummy items there
19:55:00 <Bonny> erm ok
19:55:00 <Bonny> no
19:56:00 <Bonny> I don't look at sweets
19:58:00 <doggyrat> temptation temptation calories
19:59:00 <doggyrat> i will lose the gained weight as soon as i do run everyday again
20:02:00 <Bonny> you can't lose weight just by running.. you also have to watch what you eat too
20:06:00 <Bonny> bs
20:06:00 <Bonny> bbs*
20:16:00 <doggyrat> doggyrat does need a nap
20:19:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> fuck there goes the neighbourhood
20:19:00 <doggyrat> i do drink water with fruit juice or not being at home (wife does not see) coca cola
20:22:00 <Bonny> lol
20:22:00 <Bonny> I'm download coming2america
20:22:00 <Bonny> downloading
20:22:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh nice
20:22:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> :D
20:22:00 <Bonny> how are you?
20:22:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> you will like it
20:23:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> im good a little tired but good
20:23:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> how are yo
20:23:00 <Bonny> I've always liked eddie murphy
20:23:00 <Bonny> I'm good thanks
20:23:00 <Bonny> anymore developments?
20:23:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> im sitting around waiting for a air force unit to finish firing
20:24:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> npe none yet
20:24:00 <Bonny> maybe tomorrow
20:24:00 <Bonny> plumbing and power is done which is a good sign
20:24:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yeah ill head out on sat to look at it
20:24:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yep yep :D
20:24:00 <Bonny> :D
20:25:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> im still excited :D
20:25:00 <JedStar> Howdy doggyrat
20:25:00 <JedStar> How are you fine sir?
20:26:00 <doggyrat> JedStar: if someone does call me sir that makes me feel much older than i am already :)
20:28:00 <doggyrat> someone told me that i am that old as i do feel , well picking up droped down items from the floor show me i am must be much older than the age in my ID-Card
20:29:00 <JedStar> LMFAO
20:29:00 <JedStar> I am doing alright for a Friday night
20:29:00 <JedStar> Have had a big week
21:18:00 <Bonny> I'm so excited and I just can't hide it
21:19:00 <Bonny> do you remember big kev?
21:30:00 <Fi> hello everyone
21:33:00 <Bonny> hey hey it's Fi
21:33:00 <Bonny> what happened to you, woman? :)
21:33:00 <Fi> hey Bonny
21:33:00 <Fi> work dear
21:33:00 <Bonny> AHHHHHHHH
21:33:00 <Fi> work
21:33:00 <Bonny> that's a dirty 4 letter word
21:34:00 <Fi> hows your job going?
21:34:00 <Bonny> haven't started yet
21:34:00 <Bonny> did a trial run on tuesday and that's about it
21:34:00 <Bonny> if I got the job I'll start tuesday
21:34:00 <Fi> ok well i have my fingers crossed
21:34:00 <Bonny> thanks
21:45:00 <Fi> hello snoopy
21:45:00 <Fi> long time no see
21:48:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> heya Fi :D
21:48:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> sorry was away locking up buildings at work
21:48:00 <Bonny> ahhh is that what you have been doing
21:48:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yeah
21:48:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> and i still got one more thing to do but i can do it here at the office
21:49:00 <Bonny> cool
21:49:00 <Fi> who trusts you with the keys!
21:49:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> work does lol
21:49:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> 1 key is worth 11K
21:50:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> and i have 4 of them ll
21:50:00 <Fi> sell them
21:50:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i cant its not worth anything to anyone else but work
21:51:00 <Fi> wasnt being serious
21:51:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> plus i dont need that kind of money
21:51:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> ill be coming into alot more money soon
21:51:00 <Fi> oh how so
21:51:00 <Fi> been dealing?
21:51:00 <Fi> lol
21:51:00 <Fi> jk
21:51:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> lol nah
21:52:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> work fuck up
21:52:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> so far ive estimated about 70K but i still have 1 more year to do lol
21:52:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> and thats without the allowances
21:53:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> actually good point
21:53:00 <Fi> they underpaid you
21:53:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> ill check to see what im up to this finacal year
21:53:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> nah they werent paying overtime
21:54:00 <Fi> well same as being underpaid
21:54:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yeah
21:54:00 <Fi> youre doing the hours and not being paid for it
21:54:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> 66K so far this year :)
21:55:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> so Fi how are you :)
21:55:00 <Fi> what are you going to do with it all?
21:55:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> pay some of the mortgage off
21:56:00 <Fi> good plan
21:56:00 <Fi> lol
21:56:00 <Fi> i’m ok
21:56:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> the wife has her head screwed on lol
21:57:00 <Fi> ive been very busy with work
21:57:00 <Fi> been feeling drained
21:57:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> if it was up to me i would buy us both new cars and put the rest into the loan lol
21:57:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> yup i know the feeling
21:58:00 <Fi> no smart move
21:58:00 <Fi> pay off debt
21:58:00 <Bonny> cars depreciate in value
21:58:00 <Fi> lol @ bonny
21:58:00 <Fi> he’ll enjoy that dear
21:58:00 <Bonny> whereas paying of a loan increases your assets
21:58:00 <Bonny> ta for the rose
21:59:00 <Fi> awwww
21:59:00 <Fi> bless
21:59:00 <Fi> xx
21:59:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh that reminds me of a song
22:00:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSUSFow70no
22:01:00 <Fi> what doesnt remind you of songs
22:01:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> but still this HAS to be the funniest out there
22:01:00 <Fi> lol
22:01:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0m4rcx0of4
22:07:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> not alot actually lol
22:07:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> im a music man
22:07:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> and a movie mant oo :D
22:07:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> fuck me
22:08:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> well seems like im doing all the taliing tonight
22:09:00 <Fi> sorry just a bit emotional
22:09:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh sorry ill hush now
22:10:00 <Fi> its ok snoops
22:10:00 <Fi> ive composed myself
22:10:00 <JedStar> Howdy all
22:10:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hi JedStar
22:10:00 <Fi> helllo
22:12:00 <Fi> umm trying to visualise that
22:12:00 <Fi> lol
22:13:00 <Bonny> do you really want to visualise that? lol
22:13:00 <Fi> um no
22:13:00 <Fi> lol
22:13:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> hahahaha no dont lol
22:13:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> its a scary image
22:14:00 <JedStar> Howdy Snoopys_Gunship & Fi
22:14:00 <Fi> i dont know what it entails
22:14:00 <Fi> hello JedStar
22:14:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> imagine harry potter little scary thing and a monkey having a baby THATS IT lol
22:14:00 <Bonny> hey JedStar
22:14:00 <JedStar> Howdy Bonny
22:14:00 <JedStar> How are we all this evening?
22:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> tired and cant wait to go home
22:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh i did a boo boo before
22:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> i dropped a fart in the patrol car and stepped out of it for the night
22:15:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> now dopey darryl will deal with it when he gets in :D
22:15:00 <Fi> LMAO
22:15:00 <eddie> electrohead ->> mostly amateur radio stuff as well as zoom etc
22:16:00 <Fi> thats mean
22:16:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> teach the cunt to punch me
22:16:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh Fi
22:16:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> you know Shaggy yeah
22:16:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> the singer
22:16:00 <Fi> yes
22:16:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> he has a new song :)
22:17:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9l7y7npGs
22:17:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> my son loves the song lol
22:19:00 <Fi> im really not up wth todays music
22:20:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> niether am i till i saw this one nick music lol
22:20:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> except for my Girlfriend
22:24:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> alright everyone i gotta fly
22:24:00 <Fi> cant see it
22:24:00 <Fi> lol
22:24:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> oh my bad extra legs can be annoying sometimes lol
22:25:00 <Fi> watch you dont trip
22:25:00 <Snoopys_Gunship> ill try not too :D
22:25:00 <Fi> good boy
22:31:00 <^bozojim> hi electrohead
22:32:00 <electrohead> hey ^bozojim
22:41:00 <Bonny> hey ^bozojim you made it..:)
22:41:00 <^bozojim> hello Bonny
22:41:00 <^bozojim> yes i did
23:09:00 <^bozojim> gives a new term to putting the boot in
23:09:00 <Bonny> yup
23:30:00 <electrohead> lol
23:30:00 <electrohead> heya :p
23:30:00 <Bonny> I'm amazed you can speak.. :P
23:30:00 <electrohead> :P
23:30:00 <electrohead> I'm drinking coffee and watching law and order
23:31:00 <Bonny> what time is it there?
23:31:00 <electrohead> 0931
23:31:00 <Bonny> that's early
23:31:00 <Bonny> is law and order on tv right now?
23:58:00 <electrohead> nah, I download the episodes from the NBC website
23:59:00 <electrohead> then just add them to my collection :)
23:59:00 <Bonny> cool