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00:00:00 <Dizz-Llama> two in the front................... need more
00:01:00 <Dizz-Llama> me shups
00:01:00 <Julie> can u do that??
00:01:00 <Julie> lmao
00:02:00 <ghostly> I hate it when you date a virgin and all they want to do is play with your genitals as if they're a new plush toy.
00:02:00 <Dizz-Llama> wish I hadent
00:02:00 <Julie> lmao ghostly
00:03:00 <ghostly> You have no idea what its like.... its like..... "come on... start playing with it.... dont poke it.... come on... use the damn thing.... i dont care if it does flop from left to right .... just play with the bastard before I do"
00:04:00 <Dizz-Llama> shot seven times
00:04:00 <Dizz-Llama> and extera
00:04:00 <Julie> lmao
00:04:00 <Dizz-Llama> bastards
00:05:00 <Dizz-Llama> me shups
00:05:00 <Dizz-Llama> and floppies
00:06:00 <Dizz-Llama> , you know better
00:06:00 <Dizz-Llama> fully suped
00:06:00 <ghostly> And girls.... giving your penis... a nickname like "Felicity" cause it reminds them of an old school friend that they havn't seen for 10 years...
00:06:00 <ghostly> Like atleast pick a guys name.
00:07:00 <ghostly> Something masculin....
00:08:00 <ghostly> Like Captain America.....
00:08:00 <ghostly> Not Minimouse
00:08:00 <ghostly> Ya know....
00:08:00 <ghostly> Something to boost the ego.... not give you a reason to go into theropy
00:08:00 <ghostly> :)
00:09:00 <ghostly> omg..... ya know what virgins who havn't seen a dick before like to do?
00:09:00 <ghostly> watch you pee
00:09:00 <ghostly> just the once
00:10:00 <ghostly> it's like.... I don't have one of those tools can i see how I use yours
00:10:00 <Julie> lmao
00:10:00 <ghostly> I guess it's like being on a work site putting up a fence and ya mates hammer is bigger than yours and you watch intensly as he hits it infront of you.... no wait... that sounds really gay as an example....
00:13:00 <Dizz-Llama> deleted
00:14:00 <Julie> ???
00:14:00 <ghostly> And you know what else they do? they'll touch the outside of your clothes.... and then point it out to you that you got hard... even though you're perfectly aware of it and at first for the first 20 times it was amusing... you're right... but it's been 3 weeks and it's almost like your jox gets more action than you do.....
00:14:00 <ghostly> Ya know what a girl asked me once? Can I feel i when I have an errection...
00:14:00 <ghostly> I told her..... Nope... just feels like anything else I guess....
00:15:00 <Julie> lmao ghostly
00:15:00 <ghostly> And why would I want to feel it... the things been poked n prodded so much i'm sure the poor bugger would throw up from seasickness.
00:17:00 <Julie> lol
00:17:00 <ghostly> I swear... I remember things as if it was yesterday
00:17:00 <ghostly> "Did you know your hair is red down here?"
00:18:00 <ghostly> nah.... I been looking at it for 20 years since I grew it out... not once did I think to check what colour it is.
00:18:00 <ghostly> ya know?
00:18:00 <Julie> lmao
00:18:00 <ghostly> It's not like a zit... it doesn't disapear one week then reappear the next.... it's not seasonal
00:18:00 <Julie> stop it
00:18:00 <ghostly> Did you wet yourself?
00:19:00 <ghostly> lol
00:20:00 <Julie> :P
00:20:00 <ghostly> I hated it the most when a new DVD from the Puppetry of the Penis dvd game out.....
00:20:00 <ghostly> I felt like.... "Oh no... I know what i'm gunna be stuck doing this weekend"
00:20:00 <ghostly> There's some things that it wasn't meant to do
00:20:00 <ghostly> I don't care if you seen it in a dvd
00:21:00 <Julie> i wanted to go see that
00:21:00 <ghostly> It's not made of rubber it really really hurts if you pull it like the rip cord of a lawn mower
00:21:00 <ghostly> "Chris can you make the eifle tower?"
00:21:00 <ghostly> "Yeah thats right pick the tallest structure in the world for me to build first to see how far we can go"
00:22:00 <Julie> lol
00:22:00 <ghostly> I woulda been happy if she wanted me to make a VW
00:23:00 <ghostly> Or even a hamburger I can do those
00:23:00 <ghostly> lol
00:23:00 <Julie> lmao
00:23:00 <ghostly> and the animated ones.... omg.... .i'm glad it wasn't made of hard plastic or it woulda snapped off by now
00:23:00 <ghostly> "yes i know it looks funny when you swing it back and forth.... .are you done now?"
00:24:00 <ghostly> Oh.... and trying to do Walk the doggy....
00:25:00 <ghostly> Now I like the sound of doggy.... but do you know what steps are involved in making a walking the dog out of that/
00:25:00 <ghostly> OMG.......
00:25:00 <ghostly> it's an upside down eifle tower that includes a bit of parachuting of the sack skin
00:25:00 <ghostly> OUCH!
00:25:00 <Julie> lol
00:25:00 <ghostly> I'm suprised she didnt try to make the bastard bark like a dog.
00:25:00 <ghostly> I'm no YOYO
00:25:00 <ghostly> It doesn't roll back up when you're finning spinning
00:26:00 <Julie> stop it
00:26:00 <Julie> lol
00:27:00 <ghostly> A guitarist busks by playing music.....
00:28:00 <ghostly> A fluter plays the flue to busk.....
00:28:00 <ghostly> What's a member of the puppetry of the penis do to busk?
00:28:00 <ghostly> lol
00:28:00 <ghostly> "Hey beautiful... for $1 i'll show you the eifle tower, oh and i'll give you a free newspaper"
00:29:00 <ghostly> Everyone includes a free newspaper now
00:29:00 <ghostly> It's like the adults version of a happymeal toy
00:29:00 <ghostly> Least you can't wipe your arse with a real happymeal toy lol
00:30:00 <Julie> lol
00:32:00 <ghostly> Do you know who Gumby is?
00:32:00 <Julie> no
00:32:00 <Julie> should i?
00:33:00 <ghostly> http://www.funcrunch.com/gumby-10167/
00:33:00 <ghostly> he's a famous clay based character from kids tv
00:34:00 <Julie> yep
00:36:00 <ghostly> http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/creepy-gumbies
00:36:00 <ghostly> lol
00:42:00 <ghostly> http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/4/12/12/enhanced-buzz-6763-1334248855-23.jpg
00:43:00 <Julie> :P
00:44:00 <Sunbeam> hi again :)
00:45:00 <Julie> hiya
00:46:00 <ghostly> http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/4/25/15/enhanced-buzz-9073-1335382748-3.jpg
00:46:00 <ghostly> hi Sunbeam
00:46:00 <ghostly> you missed funny hour
00:46:00 <ghostly> hehe
00:48:00 <ghostly> Was so funny that Llama d/c
00:48:00 <Julie> lol
00:48:00 <ghostly> He has no sense of the Aussie sense of humor
00:49:00 <Sunbeam> hiya ghostly :)
00:49:00 <ghostly> :)
00:49:00 <ghostly> the topic was penises
00:49:00 <Sunbeam> sorry just filled wesher again
00:49:00 <Sunbeam> oh do spill
00:50:00 <ghostly> lol - if i spill then that makes me allot older than I am
00:50:00 <ghostly> lol
00:50:00 <Sunbeam> how come i always miss the interesting convo's lol
00:50:00 <Sunbeam> Julie ...fill me in lol
00:50:00 <ghostly> I'm pasting it to you
00:51:00 <Julie> lol
00:51:00 <Sunbeam> :)
00:51:00 <Sunbeam> is there more to come?
00:52:00 <Sunbeam> lmao
01:15:00 <ghostly> there we go
01:15:00 <ghostly> zips up....
01:15:00 <ghostly> you got it all
01:15:00 <ghostly> :)
01:16:00 <Sunbeam> hahahaha
01:16:00 <Sunbeam> that hamburger was well good
01:16:00 <Sunbeam> :P
01:16:00 <Julie> night all
01:16:00 <ghostly> sorry the camera slipped at the end
01:16:00 <ghostly> nite julie
01:16:00 <ghostly> :)
01:16:00 <Sunbeam> night Julie take care
01:17:00 <ghostly> Sorry but I can talk any comment to infer another meaning very quickly
01:17:00 <ghostly> :)
01:17:00 <ghostly> It's a combination of being witty and a bit of smartass thrown in]
01:18:00 <Sunbeam> i'm good at innuendo's too lol
01:18:00 <ghostly> lol
01:19:00 <ghostly> it's pretty easy if you do it allot
01:19:00 <Sunbeam> yep ;)
01:25:00 <ghostly> I look forward to one day snuggling up to a special someone again
01:25:00 <ghostly> have sure missed it
01:25:00 <Sunbeam> you will ghostly :)
01:26:00 <SkyFire> aww
01:26:00 <SkyFire> :)
01:26:00 <SkyFire> 1.26 am here
01:26:00 <SkyFire> yawns - sleep time
01:26:00 <Sunbeam> 04:26 pm here
01:26:00 <SkyFire> wow
01:26:00 <SkyFire> where are you Sunbeam ?
01:27:00 <Sunbeam> England
01:27:00 <SkyFire> ok
01:27:00 <SkyFire> hops into bed with Sunbeam
01:27:00 <SkyFire> hehehe
01:27:00 <Sunbeam> lol
01:27:00 <Sunbeam> no room in our bed :P
01:27:00 <SkyFire> lol ok
01:30:00 <ghostly> who's bed?
01:30:00 <Sunbeam> mine n hubby's bed lol
01:31:00 <ghostly> hehe
01:40:00 <ghostly> im so tired
01:40:00 <ghostly> hehe
01:40:00 <Sunbeam> go snuggle up in bed
01:40:00 <ghostly> yeah
01:40:00 <ghostly> sounds good
04:52:00 <Dizz-Llama> hi again
04:54:00 <Dizz-Llama> as ever rotten timing
04:56:00 <Dizz-Llama> I never get it right
04:56:00 <Dizz-Llama> :)
05:03:00 <Dizz-Llama> back anon, sweet dreams to all
07:09:00 <Dizz-Llama> I keep my coutenace
08:43:00 <ghostly> morning Kezzie
08:43:00 <ghostly> :)
08:44:00 <Kezzie> morning ghostly
08:44:00 <ghostly> how are you?
08:45:00 <Kezzie> good
08:45:00 <Kezzie> u?
08:57:00 <ghostly> yeah i'm good
08:57:00 <ghostly> tired but good
09:00:00 <Kezzie> brb making a coffee
09:00:00 <lx> 1,0 ciao for now1,0 Kezzie...
09:01:00 <ghostly> I got my coffee here
09:01:00 <ghostly> hehe
09:38:00 <Kezzie> hi Dizz-Llama bbs doing stuff here
09:51:00 <ghostly> ok
09:54:00 <tanzi> heyas Rose_Petals
09:55:00 <Rose_Petals> hey tanzi
10:05:00 <Kezzie> hi tanzi and Rose_Petals
10:06:00 <tanzi> hi Kezzie
10:08:00 <Rose_Petals> hi Kezzie
10:26:00 <tanzi> hi allen
10:26:00 <Allen> hi tanzi
10:27:00 <Allen> how ARE you tonight tanzi
10:28:00 <tanzi> im good thanz and you its morning here in oz
10:28:00 <Allen> ok yeah that's right to .... i am good also thanks
10:29:00 <tanzi> where are you from
10:29:00 <Allen> winnipeg manitoba canada
10:30:00 <tanzi> are you having summer there
10:30:00 <Allen> just started
10:31:00 <tanzi> winter has started here but still quite warm days
10:31:00 <Allen> we had a very wam winter .....
10:32:00 <tanzi> winter here is nice getting some really cold nights
10:32:00 <Allen> yeah but you don't get snow there do you?
10:33:00 <tanzi> not where i am no
10:33:00 <Allen> we usualy get tons of snow here but this year we had little to none
10:34:00 <tanzi> brb
10:34:00 <lx> 1,0 That was a quick visit1,0 tanzi...
10:34:00 <Allen> the coldest it got was about -15 with wind chill of only -28
11:10:00 <Dizz-Llama> back]
11:11:00 <Dizz-Llama> Llama was grazing
11:11:00 <Dizz-Llama> post nap
12:47:00 <bozotheclown> hugs Kezzie
12:48:00 <Kezzie> hugs bozotheclown
12:48:00 <Kezzie> hugs SkyFire
12:48:00 <bozotheclown> how are you Kezzie
12:48:00 <Kezzie> good got the men here putting solar panels on foor now
12:48:00 <Kezzie> roof
12:48:00 <bozotheclown> nice
12:49:00 <bozotheclown> I have been gout getting ads for rental properties
12:49:00 <bozotheclown> as the system failed me in supporting ema nd after 14 weeks of being told they ahd it in hand
12:49:00 <bozotheclown> I find out last night, nothing has been done and they cannot afford the time to help me
12:49:00 <Kezzie> ouchhhhhhh
12:49:00 <bozotheclown> so I have 25 days to find a unit and get out of here
12:49:00 <Kezzie> brb men calling me
12:49:00 <bozotheclown> k
13:19:00 <bozotheclown> hugs sweet Julie
13:28:00 <Julie> thanks huggs :P
13:28:00 <Julie> grrr giving me the shits :(
13:28:00 <Julie> he has??
13:29:00 <bozotheclown> hugs sweet Julie
13:29:00 <bozotheclown> hi Glenn
13:29:00 <Julie> hugs sweet bozotheclown :)
13:29:00 <bozotheclown> or it will be an it when Glenn is finished
13:29:00 <bozotheclown> lol
13:30:00 <Julie> what r u doing to him??
13:32:00 <Julie> i hear ya lol
13:33:00 <Julie> lmao
13:34:00 <bozotheclown> hehehe
13:35:00 <bozotheclown> give me unix anyday
13:35:00 <Julie> awwwww me hugs lx
13:35:00 <lx> 10,0 - A penny saved is ridiculous.
13:36:00 <bozotheclown> a bot a bot shivering in the cold, let us bring it wool and underwear
13:36:00 <bozotheclown> hahaha
13:36:00 <Dizz-Llama> hi gang
13:37:00 <Dizz-Llama> thanks glenn
13:37:00 <bozotheclown> hi Dizz-Llama
13:37:00 <Dizz-Llama> hiya bozo
13:37:00 <Julie> hi Dizz-Llama :)
13:37:00 <Dizz-Llama> hi Julie
13:38:00 <Dizz-Llama> and a wee smile
13:38:00 <Julie> :)
13:39:00 <Dizz-Llama> what have I missed?
13:39:00 <Julie> nothing
13:40:00 <bozotheclown> not a lot
13:40:00 <Dizz-Llama> easily fixed
13:40:00 <Dizz-Llama> start with how the day went
13:42:00 <Julie> my day started with getting dressed :P
13:42:00 <ghostly> hi
13:42:00 <Dizz-Llama> good start,
13:42:00 <Julie> hey ghostly
13:42:00 <ghostly> oh getting dressed?
13:43:00 <ghostly> thats different
13:43:00 <Dizz-Llama> brb
13:43:00 <lx> 1,0 cya1,0 Dizz-Llama...
13:43:00 <ghostly> lol
13:43:00 <Julie> then i had 2 coffees
13:43:00 <Dizz-Llama> call, I have to take
13:43:00 <ghostly> n farted
13:43:00 <Julie> then went and handed my home work in at work :))))]
13:43:00 <Dizz-Llama> won't be long
13:43:00 <Julie> did that b4 i got out of bed ghostly
13:43:00 <Julie> lol
13:44:00 <ghostly> ahhhhh a kinda suprise
13:44:00 <Julie> lol
13:44:00 <Julie> brb
13:44:00 <lx> 1,0 ...so quiet now1,0 Julie...
13:46:00 <Dizz-Llama> fast call, back
13:47:00 <Dizz-Llama> crap, incoming
13:47:00 <Dizz-Llama> brb again
13:47:00 <lx> 1,0 seeya1,0 Dizz-Llama...
13:48:00 <Dizz-Llama> ta lx
13:48:00 <lx> 10,0 - Do not show your wounded finger, for everything will knock up against it.
13:48:00 <Dizz-Llama> as well I know that
13:48:00 <Dizz-Llama> brb
13:48:00 <lx> 1,0 ...so quiet now1,0 Dizz-Llama...
13:48:00 <Dizz-Llama> yes master ;)
13:49:00 <Julie> back
13:51:00 <Dizz-Llama> send me saline
13:51:00 <Julie> why
13:51:00 <Julie> and wb
13:51:00 <Dizz-Llama> tears
13:51:00 <Dizz-Llama> and gone again wee one
13:51:00 <Julie> u crying??
13:52:00 <Dizz-Llama> long and personal
13:52:00 <Dizz-Llama> brb
13:53:00 <Julie> ok
13:53:00 <Julie> cya another day as im going to work shortly
13:55:00 <Julie> ok cya all tonight maybe :PPP
14:39:00 <ghostly> hi glen
14:44:00 <ghostly> hiiiiii
14:44:00 <ghostly> :)
14:58:00 <Kezzie> hiiiiiii
15:04:00 <ghostly> just had a funny email
15:05:00 <Kezzie> ok
15:05:00 <ghostly> "you know my password I'm with you, you have it"
15:05:00 <ghostly> lol
15:05:00 <lx> Ha! Tell me about it... :P
15:05:00 <ghostly> thats like saying to an ATM... YOU KNOW MY PIN NUMBER THIS IS ME GIVE ME MY MONEY
15:13:00 <SkyFire> 5Thanks for the +
15:13:00 <Kezzie> hugs SkyFire
15:13:00 <SkyFire> hugs Kezzie
15:48:00 <Sunbeam> morning folks :)
16:04:00 <Sunbeam> hugggggggggggggggggggs SkyFire :)
16:04:00 <SkyFire> :)
16:04:00 <Sunbeam> :)
16:04:00 <SkyFire> hows England
16:05:00 <Sunbeam> no sunshine atm....but it ain't raining lol
16:05:00 <SkyFire> lol ok
16:05:00 <Sunbeam> so a good morning for my 5 mile walk
16:05:00 <SkyFire> hehehe
16:06:00 <SkyFire> *hides*
16:06:00 <Sunbeam> lol
16:06:00 <Sunbeam> hey...this is england...we can have 4 seasons in one day
16:06:00 <SkyFire> oooooo
16:06:00 <SkyFire> can have that here in Melbourne
16:07:00 <Sunbeam> and we have been told that we are going back to winter this month
16:07:00 <SkyFire> aww
16:07:00 <Sunbeam> i don't mind
16:07:00 <SkyFire> :)
16:07:00 <Sunbeam> much rather have it cold than hot
16:08:00 <SkyFire> wonder what December will be like
16:08:00 <SkyFire> ok
16:08:00 <Sunbeam> you shudda been a pom then lol
16:08:00 <SkyFire> hehehe
16:08:00 <SkyFire> didn't have a choice
16:09:00 <SkyFire> mum and dad had emigrated to Aus 3 years before I was born
16:10:00 <Sunbeam> were they poms?
16:10:00 <SkyFire> yes
16:11:00 <SkyFire> though if they had had women in research ships back then, they would very probaly have gone to the US
16:11:00 <SkyFire> back then women were not allowed :(
16:11:00 <SkyFire> this is 1966
16:12:00 <Sunbeam> ok
16:12:00 <SkyFire> mum is from Looe and dad is from Rippon area
16:13:00 <SkyFire> mum and I love being near water
16:15:00 <Sunbeam> ripon not far from me
16:16:00 <SkyFire> ok
16:18:00 <Kezzie> hugs Sunbeam
16:18:00 <Sunbeam> huggggggggggs n a poke back Kezzie
16:18:00 <Kezzie> lol
16:19:00 <Kezzie> hugss SkyFire
16:19:00 <Kezzie> bit busy here got men on the roof we got solar panels going on woohoo our power bill will go down
16:19:00 <Kezzie> brb
16:19:00 <lx> 1,0 No probs1,0 Kezzie...
16:22:00 <SkyFire> was going to have solar power here until we found out we would have 600 volts floating around on the roof
16:34:00 <SkyFire> still too much
16:34:00 <SkyFire> one day we change over
16:35:00 <SkyFire> nice
16:35:00 <SkyFire> been wondering if they guy we were talking too might have meant watts not volts
16:36:00 <SkyFire> yeah
16:36:00 <SkyFire> it would be good with having the aircon here
16:37:00 <SkyFire> hehehe
16:37:00 <SkyFire> wb Kezzie hugs and gropes
16:38:00 <Kezzie> ta dam net spilt
16:38:00 <Kezzie> was here lol
16:38:00 <Sunbeam> wb Kezzie :)
16:39:00 <Sunbeam> hiya Glenn :)
16:39:00 <SkyFire> wb Sunbeam hugs and gropes
16:39:00 <Kezzie> ta Sunbeam
16:39:00 <Sunbeam> hugggggs n botty pinches SkyFire
16:39:00 <Sunbeam> i dint go nowhere
16:39:00 <Sunbeam> i was sat here quietly noseying on FB lol
16:40:00 <Kezzie> you all left me ahahhaha
16:40:00 <Sunbeam> u buggared off Kezzie an yer took mrsmith with yer lol
16:40:00 <Kezzie> hahahhahaha
16:40:00 <Kezzie> well he must be on mars still lol
16:40:00 <Sunbeam> an fissility from here
16:41:00 <Kezzie> brb
16:41:00 <lx> 1,0 See ya1,0 Kezzie...
16:41:00 <Sunbeam> hb
16:44:00 <Sunbeam> wb nighttide
16:44:00 <Sunbeam> have a good shift Glenn ...take care
16:49:00 <Sunbeam> hi Alexandria :)
16:50:00 <Alexandria> :>
16:51:00 <Alexandria> evening all :>
16:51:00 <SingleOne> Hay yo
16:52:00 <Sunbeam> hi SingleOne :)
16:54:00 <SingleOne> hi Suin
16:54:00 <SingleOne> Sunbeam :)
16:54:00 <SingleOne> the hand is quicker that the mind in my case Sunbeam
16:55:00 <SingleOne> you all alone here?
16:57:00 <Sunbeam> looks that way
16:57:00 <Sunbeam> but am off out shortly for my 5 mile walk
16:58:00 <SingleOne> hhay thats good
16:58:00 <Kezzie> have a walk for me Sunbeam
16:59:00 <SingleOne> I live on a steep hill but once down the walk up is pure hell
16:59:00 <Sunbeam> will do Kezzie
16:59:00 <SingleOne> google my place and see
17:00:00 <Sunbeam> gonna feed mi squirrel friends whilst am at it
17:00:00 <SingleOne> google earth I meant
17:00:00 <Sunbeam> i live up a steep hill SingleOne
17:00:00 <SingleOne> thats great Sunbeam I did that too
17:00:00 <Sunbeam> i don't have google earth
17:00:00 <SingleOne> its free
17:00:00 <Sunbeam> i know
17:00:00 <SingleOne> ok
17:01:00 <Sunbeam> just never bothered with it
17:01:00 <SingleOne> k
17:01:00 <SingleOne> cant even locate my bros house on the Nth Coast
17:02:00 <SingleOne> got his addy but....
17:07:00 <Sunbeam> BBL
17:07:00 <lx> 1,0 ciao for now1,0 Sunbeam...
17:08:00 <SingleOne> haya lx
17:08:00 <lx> 10,0 - A penny saved is ridiculous.
17:35:00 <MrMark> evenin spunkies
17:37:00 <Dizz-Llama> morning all
17:37:00 <SingleOne> hay dizzy
17:37:00 <Dizz-Llama> hi single
17:38:00 <Dizz-Llama> still single, how are you
17:38:00 <SingleOne> just so so
17:39:00 <Dizz-Llama> oh
17:39:00 <SingleOne> well pretty good
17:39:00 <Dizz-Llama> I can cook
17:39:00 <SingleOne> as usual
17:39:00 <Dizz-Llama> smiles
17:41:00 <Kezzie> morning Dizz-Llama
17:41:00 <Dizz-Llama> hiya kezzie, car murderer
17:41:00 <Kezzie> what i do now ?
17:42:00 <Dizz-Llama> yougot the car bumped
17:42:00 <Kezzie> and i wasnt even near my car when it happened
17:42:00 <Dizz-Llama> my panel beater is in Ireland
17:43:00 <Kezzie> so what makes u think i a car murderer Dizz-Llama ??
17:43:00 <Kezzie> hugs bozotheclown
17:43:00 <Dizz-Llama> I know Kezzie
17:43:00 <bozotheclown> hugs Kezzie
17:43:00 <Dizz-Llama> teasing
17:43:00 <Kezzie> well dont like your teasing
17:43:00 <Dizz-Llama> hi! bozo
17:43:00 <Alexandria> hiya bozo
17:43:00 <Dizz-Llama> stopped Kezzie
17:44:00 <bozotheclown> hi Dizz-Llama
17:44:00 <bozotheclown> hello Alexandria hugs
17:45:00 <bozotheclown> ok I am on the old laptop up and running with the spare screen and my USB keyboard as 2 letters have decided to stop working
17:45:00 <Dizz-Llama> apols Kezzie
17:46:00 <Dizz-Llama> lolbozo,soundslike my solution too
17:47:00 <Dizz-Llama> ( what ever it takes )
17:47:00 <Dizz-Llama> current lap top works
17:48:00 <Dizz-Llama> but new monitors etc, familiar
17:49:00 <bozotheclown> this is on my old desktop screen a really big one
17:49:00 <Dizz-Llama> brain damage and cables
17:50:00 <Dizz-Llama> lol, one of mine need two strong men
17:51:00 <Dizz-Llama> and possibly a fork lift
17:52:00 <bozotheclown> i am cleaning out of the hard drive all the stuff I had for uni I no longer need
17:52:00 <Kezzie> i been doing that with big comp bozotheclown
17:53:00 <bozotheclown> this thing is still a wonderful laptop now it is going
17:53:00 <bozotheclown> and it is back online as my main one
17:53:00 <bozotheclown> the netbook gets a rest
17:53:00 <Dizz-Llama> are they any good?
17:53:00 <bozotheclown> this is a 19 inch monitor
17:54:00 <Dizz-Llama> asking
17:54:00 <bozotheclown> my netbook is not too bad
17:54:00 <Dizz-Llama> okay
17:54:00 <bozotheclown> get 8 hours out the battery but you have to realsie
17:54:00 <bozotheclown> they have no CD/DVD drive, floopy and do not have enough power to run a burner
17:55:00 <Dizz-Llama> bums I get minutes on lappy
17:55:00 <bozotheclown> yes
17:55:00 <bozotheclown> I have en external DVD and floopy I plug into it
17:55:00 <Dizz-Llama> cos I abused it
17:55:00 <bozotheclown> and now this is back I cna burn on this one
17:55:00 <bozotheclown> get a new battery
17:56:00 <Dizz-Llama> what do you burn?
17:56:00 <Dizz-Llama> movies or music
17:56:00 <bozotheclown> I do a lot of alternate format stuff for my access and inclusion group
17:56:00 <bozotheclown> so I burn audio as well as multi media stuff
17:57:00 <Dizz-Llama> inclusion group?
17:57:00 <bozotheclown> I have a brochure I put on a business card CD in DAISY, doc, PDF and HTML files
17:58:00 <bozotheclown> yes I work with disabled people and I coordinate an access and inclusion group which is not done by the servicesor council here
17:58:00 <Dizz-Llama> okay, Daisy is my dogs name :
17:58:00 <bozotheclown> my job is to support people, advocate for them, chase up stuff for people, putout information fully accessible
17:58:00 <Dizz-Llama> good work
17:59:00 <bozotheclown> it may be print, large print, braille, computer files, audio, DAISY
17:59:00 <bozotheclown> via email, floppy, CD, DVD, hard copy or other means
17:59:00 <bozotheclown> and this laptop is set up to do it all
18:00:00 <Dizz-Llama> mineis aids related, but very similar
18:00:00 <bozotheclown> k
18:01:00 <Dizz-Llama> need our care
18:01:00 <bozotheclown> I do a lot in that area, as well as community radio, rotary and other stuff
18:02:00 <Dizz-Llama> I keep hearing about rotary, buses and doing good
18:02:00 <Dizz-Llama> helped us a lot
18:03:00 <bozotheclown> yes
18:03:00 <Dizz-Llama> quiet help :)
18:03:00 <Dizz-Llama> bums, helped us plenty
18:04:00 <Dizz-Llama> and we sneaked them som cash
18:04:00 <bozotheclown> ic
18:04:00 <Dizz-Llama> for other causes
18:05:00 <bozotheclown> true
18:05:00 <Dizz-Llama> they dont need my approval
18:06:00 <Dizz-Llama> but they have it
18:06:00 <bozotheclown> yes we do great work often un noticed
18:06:00 <Dizz-Llama> I'm pagan but Saul
18:07:00 <Dizz-Llama> what we do is quietly
18:08:00 <Dizz-Llama> moment
18:08:00 <Dizz-Llama> back
18:09:00 <bozotheclown> wb
18:09:00 <Dizz-Llama> ta bozo
18:10:00 <Dizz-Llama> small place, left a tap trickinglggllglllggllg
18:10:00 <bozotheclown> lol
18:10:00 <Dizz-Llama> pagans don like waste
18:11:00 <Dizz-Llama> ever tried to stop spelling bananannnananns
18:11:00 <Dizz-Llama> failed every time
18:12:00 <bozotheclown> lol
18:12:00 <Dizz-Llama> yellow things, easier
18:12:00 <Dizz-Llama> point and smile
18:16:00 <bozotheclown> not at all
18:16:00 <Dizz-Llama> bugger, back like ebola
18:16:00 <bozotheclown> eeek
18:17:00 <Dizz-Llama> yeach
18:17:00 <bozotheclown> I was looking at a sour dough recipe book I broowed from the library
18:17:00 <bozotheclown> borrowed
18:17:00 <Dizz-Llama> was going to be measles
18:17:00 <Dizz-Llama> get a good one?
18:18:00 <bozotheclown> it is not bad at all a recent one with all sorts of things in it
18:18:00 <Dizz-Llama> drool
18:19:00 <Dizz-Llama> decent cook but HELp on baking
18:20:00 <bozotheclown> I make a lot of sour dough
18:20:00 <Dizz-Llama> mums date and walnut bread................ devine
18:20:00 <Kezzie> bozotheclown i want to make a cheese bread in mine soon
18:20:00 <bozotheclown> I make a sour dough pastry
18:21:00 <bozotheclown> yes with usual or sour dough?
18:21:00 <Dizz-Llama> I lived in the US, sour dough is lovely
18:21:00 <bozotheclown> all mine are hand made no machine
18:22:00 <Dizz-Llama> a blender for xmas for you
18:22:00 <Dizz-Llama> with a pastry hook!
18:22:00 <bozotheclown> no thanks prefer to do it all by hand much easier to know when it si done by feel
18:22:00 <bozotheclown> get better results by hand
18:22:00 <Dizz-Llama> agreed
18:23:00 <Dizz-Llama> briefly trying to be nice
18:23:00 <bozotheclown> I do a lot of cooking and it is all fresh and by hand if I wanted a machine i would ahve got one
18:24:00 <bozotheclown> and I make all my own pasta and grind my own flour
18:24:00 <Dizz-Llama> putting ME to shame
18:25:00 <Dizz-Llama> never made pasta
18:25:00 <bozotheclown> pasta is easy
18:25:00 <Dizz-Llama> ( from start )
18:25:00 <bozotheclown> it is easier than bread
18:26:00 <bozotheclown> I have a pasta maker that rolls and cuts it to tagetelli, sphagetti or lasanga
18:26:00 <Dizz-Llama> but all those bits drying on chairs,
18:26:00 <bozotheclown> nope
18:26:00 <Dizz-Llama> smarty pants
18:26:00 <bozotheclown> on tea towels outside covered with meash on a fine day
18:27:00 <Dizz-Llama> I live in Ireland, fine day at the theater
18:27:00 <Dizz-Llama> out side....................... bon chance
18:28:00 <Dizz-Llama> very soggy pasta
18:33:00 <Kezzie> getting cooler here now bozotheclown went down to 19deg last night but was a nice 30deg today
18:33:00 <bozotheclown> show off it was coldish here with a min of 1.6
18:33:00 <Dizz-Llama> 19 C, ya softie
18:34:00 <Dizz-Llama> I lived in Wisconsin, -15 balmy
18:34:00 <Kezzie> wasnt cold only slept with sheet over me and had a/c on
18:35:00 <Dizz-Llama> let me take you for a walk
18:35:00 <Dizz-Llama> :)
18:36:00 <Dizz-Llama> letting the dogs out was marvelous
18:36:00 <Dizz-Llama> me with a cig ang a shovel and salt
18:37:00 <Dizz-Llama> elder one dark, easier to find
18:38:00 <bozotheclown> k
18:38:00 <Dizz-Llama> mine, vilage idiot
18:38:00 <Dizz-Llama> but friendly
18:39:00 <Dizz-Llama> ( a requirment )
18:41:00 <Dizz-Llama> top op
18:41:00 <Dizz-Llama> well done you
18:47:00 <bozotheclown> this sour dough book was printed only last year
18:51:00 <Dizz-Llama> smiles
18:51:00 <Dizz-Llama> was busy
18:52:00 <Dizz-Llama> but food more important
18:52:00 <bozotheclown> it is
18:52:00 <Dizz-Llama> ren related, important too
18:53:00 <Dizz-Llama> but food and company, joy
18:59:00 <SingleOne> speaking of food Om off for some
19:40:00 <nemss> hi all. I apologise for my hasty exit last night...
19:41:00 <nemss> I got a new pair of headphones today :-D
19:41:00 <nemss> everything sounds damn awesome
19:41:00 <nemss> should have bought a good pair YEARS ago
19:42:00 <MrMark> which ones
19:42:00 <MrMark> i got me Sennheisers on
19:42:00 <nemss> hmm... lemme look at the box... one sec
19:42:00 <lx> ...ah huh...
19:42:00 <nemss> soundblaster tactic
19:42:00 <nemss> they're not top end
19:42:00 <MrMark> oh ok
19:43:00 <nemss> but way better than what I had
19:43:00 <MrMark> do they look sexy tho!!
19:43:00 <nemss> oh yeah!
19:43:00 <nemss> lol
19:43:00 <nemss> plus I can hear bass now!
19:44:00 <ghostly> yeah
19:44:00 <ghostly> hey guys is there a website for this chan
19:44:00 <ghostly> or a fb page?
19:44:00 <nemss> http://www.sennheiserusa.com/headphones <--- bookmarked
19:44:00 <nemss> they're good, MrMark ?
19:45:00 <ghostly> lol
19:45:00 <ghostly> most of my headphones are senheiser
19:45:00 <nemss> hmm
19:45:00 <ghostly> I have studio headphones
19:45:00 <lx> ...ah huh...
19:45:00 <nemss> ok, I will buy a pair tomorrow :D
19:45:00 <ghostly> and the bass earphones
19:45:00 <ghostly> cool
19:45:00 <ghostly> mine were $220
19:46:00 <nemss> *shrug* I have pocket money
19:46:00 <ghostly> 1:1 true sound quality
19:46:00 <ghostly> I got a pair that cost me $1250
19:46:00 <ghostly> lol
19:46:00 <nemss> I'll keeo this pair for gaming
19:46:00 <ghostly> not sunheizer
19:46:00 <ghostly> yeah
19:46:00 <nemss> but, no, I don't think I'll pay $1250
19:46:00 <ghostly> my mates get turtle beach
19:46:00 <nemss> lol
19:46:00 <ghostly> most have the x11's or higher
19:47:00 <nemss> way to kill my joy at the new sound :(
19:47:00 <nemss> lol
19:48:00 <ghostly> why?
19:48:00 <ghostly> man
19:49:00 <ghostly> people don't realise how much good quality sunheizer is
19:49:00 <ghostly> i swear to god
19:49:00 <ghostly> they say... sony's the best
19:49:00 <ghostly> sunheizer shits over sony
19:49:00 <nemss> nah, it's just that I was so happy with this pair
19:49:00 <nemss> I still am
19:49:00 <nemss> because they're so much better than what I had before
19:49:00 <ghostly> yeah
19:49:00 <nemss> :D
19:49:00 <ghostly> I have some phillips headphones that were $220
19:49:00 <ghostly> they even have noise canceling for using on planes
19:50:00 <nemss> my last headphones were phillips
19:50:00 <ghostly> have 2 audio inputs
19:50:00 <ghostly> so i can listen to stereo in 2 volumes
19:50:00 <ghostly> to know what i'm mixing
19:50:00 <ghostly> rather than use left or right as the cue then cross fade
19:50:00 <nemss> I don't mix, I just listen!
19:50:00 <ghostly> awww ok
19:50:00 <nemss> but I suppose if you do mixing, $1250 is reasonable
19:50:00 <ghostly> oh you havn't seen
19:52:00 <nemss> I am confused though; I have Dolby software installed, plus the creative software. Fuck knows how they interact
19:53:00 <nemss> I will have to put my extension cord on later because I like to listen in bed
19:54:00 <nemss> the way it is atm I can barely lift my beer (which is of course bad as well)
19:55:00 <ghostly> http://i.imgur.com/rJytG.jpg
19:55:00 <ghostly> thats my console
19:56:00 <ghostly> supports dolby
19:56:00 <nemss> looks awesome. I have many less sliders etc
19:56:00 <ghostly> for true dolby 5.1 you need usb output though the heaphones down samples
19:56:00 <nemss> actually I have none, LOL
19:56:00 <ghostly> i have a bigger one
19:56:00 <ghostly> but its on loan to a theatre
19:57:00 <ghostly> http://i.imgur.com/mZb8c.jpg
19:57:00 <ghostly> thats some of my keyboards
19:57:00 <ghostly> http://i.imgur.com/EOYNZ.jpg
19:57:00 <ghostly> my studio speakers
19:57:00 <ghostly> you need these for doing true mastering so you know how it will sound when played back
19:58:00 <ghostly> http://i.imgur.com/BIKBR.jpg
19:58:00 <nemss> I am not sure I need all that stuff to listen to youtube
19:58:00 <ghostly> thats one of my guitars and the roland d110
19:58:00 <ghostly> you dont
19:58:00 <ghostly> lol
19:58:00 <ghostly> i just like showing it off
19:58:00 <ghostly> hehehe
19:58:00 <nemss> lol, I love gadgets
19:58:00 <ghostly> http://i.imgur.com/d1KbZ.jpg
19:58:00 <nemss> and you have MANY!
19:58:00 <ghostly> I own 3 of these mics
19:58:00 <ghostly> they're $180 beringer mics
19:58:00 <ghostly> used in recording studios
19:59:00 <nemss> are you michael jackson?
19:59:00 <ghostly> i have 2 pop filters
19:59:00 <ghostly> lol
19:59:00 <ghostly> I have 12 mics in total
19:59:00 <MrMark> no hes Michael Bolton
19:59:00 <ghostly> 4 are phillips stage mics
19:59:00 <ghostly> 3 are beringer backing vocal mics
19:59:00 <ghostly> one is a guitar pickup mic
19:59:00 <ghostly> http://i.imgur.com/lXuwe.jpg
19:59:00 <nemss> yeah, I might buy all of that, but it might be a bit of overkill for karaoke
20:00:00 <lx> 10,0 - Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say.
20:00:00 <ghostly> one of my programmable foot pedals
20:00:00 <ghostly> has full midi
20:00:00 <ghostly> I have allot more cool gadgets
20:00:00 <ghostly> :P
20:01:00 <ghostly> my most favourite gadget at the moment is my lazer show
20:01:00 <nemss> I have 3 microscopes with CCD cameras. Bet you don't have them!
20:01:00 <ghostly> just aim it at the ceiling
20:01:00 <ghostly> :)
20:01:00 <ghostly> cool
20:01:00 <ghostly> no i was thinking of buying once once but didnt
20:01:00 <ghostly> it had a 1.3mp camera in it
20:01:00 <ghostly> and usb
20:01:00 <ghostly> hi Sunbeam
20:01:00 <nemss> I used them for my work
20:01:00 <Sunbeam> morning again :)
20:01:00 <ghostly> I was thinking of buying a new gadget last night
20:01:00 <ghostly> but couldn't choose
20:01:00 <Sunbeam> hiya ghostly & nemss :))
20:02:00 <ghostly> i want to spend $35 max
20:02:00 <nemss> heya Sunbeam
20:02:00 <ghostly> on something I don't already have
20:02:00 <ghostly> hi Alexandria
20:02:00 <ghostly> w/b
20:02:00 <nemss> ghostly, the CCD cameras on top of the zoom tubes and micros are more expensive than other options (and they have lower resolutions)
20:02:00 <Sunbeam> hi Alexandria
20:02:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:02:00 <nemss> brb
20:02:00 <lx> 1,0 That was a quick visit1,0 nemss...
20:03:00 <MrMark> bourbon
20:03:00 <ghostly> I found it when I was getting a ccd camera for my telescope
20:03:00 <ghostly> but then some dickhead knocked my telescope over and it broke a mirror inside
20:03:00 <ghostly> was sad to see
20:03:00 <Alexandria> :>
20:03:00 <ghostly> was a star tracker telescope
20:03:00 <ghostly> tasco brand
20:04:00 <ghostly> remote was chunky
20:04:00 <ghostly> came with a big book of stars and co-ords you put in
20:04:00 <ghostly> after it broke it was worth nada
20:04:00 <ghostly> i boought it from national geographic
20:04:00 <ghostly> they were closing down at miranda
20:04:00 <ghostly> they reduced it from $660 down to $150
20:04:00 <ghostly> to clear the demo
20:04:00 <nemss> for my main scope I am using a 5dMII, seconday scope a 50D (more magnification because of the crop factor)
20:05:00 <nemss> 5dmkII gives much better images though
20:05:00 <ghostly> cool
20:05:00 <ghostly> I have the 550D and 400D
20:05:00 <ghostly> the 550 is labeled rebel but it's just the international version
20:05:00 <nemss> the 550D would probably work well (seriosuly, the 400D would as well)
20:05:00 <ghostly> still an eos
20:05:00 <ghostly> yep
20:05:00 <ghostly> I have the funels
20:06:00 <ghostly> for doing macro extension
20:06:00 <ghostly> i have 10x, 20x and 5x lense rings
20:06:00 <ghostly> but... you can't use with ultrasonic lenses
20:06:00 <ghostly> only the old school lenses
20:06:00 <ghostly> it pushes through focus control but thats all
20:07:00 <ghostly> i have some 55mm fixed
20:07:00 <ghostly> a 22
20:07:00 <ghostly> a 60 macro
20:07:00 <ghostly> 55-80 mixed
20:07:00 <ghostly> sorry
20:07:00 <ghostly> lenses
20:07:00 <ghostly> :)
20:07:00 <ghostly> omg nems
20:07:00 <MrMark> Sunbeam!Mork!
20:07:00 <ghostly> i sold a 600mm
20:07:00 <ghostly> fs 2.8 :(
20:07:00 <nemss> I don't use the extension tubes (obviously) because they are attached to real microscopes. I do, however, have the 100mm and the 60mm (which is better than the 100mm)
20:08:00 <Sunbeam> waves to MrMark
20:08:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:08:00 <MrMark> ehehehe
20:08:00 <ghostly> guess how much i sold my 600mm canon high speed lense for
20:08:00 <ghostly> $1600
20:08:00 <ghostly> :(
20:08:00 <ghostly> needed the cash
20:08:00 <nemss> cheaper than a 400mm :D
20:08:00 <nemss> lol
20:08:00 <ghostly> when i delivered it to the guy he was over the moon
20:08:00 <ghostly> lol
20:08:00 <ghostly> i didnt trust a courier
20:08:00 <nemss> is the 600mm an L lens though?
20:09:00 <ghostly> i dont remember man it was 2 yrs ago i sold it
20:09:00 <ghostly> was the first sports 600mm
20:09:00 <ghostly> you mounted the lense not the camera lol
20:09:00 <nemss> yeah, I'm not gonna google it but I am not sure it is, which is why the 400mm would be more expensive (better optics)
20:10:00 <ghostly> i took a photo of a drop of water off a wave and you could see the upside down reflection of the seagul flyin aove it
20:10:00 <nemss> I think my 100-400mm was about $2000; can't remember
20:10:00 <ghostly> I have a series of manfrodo tripods
20:10:00 <ghostly> and a monopon
20:10:00 <ghostly> monopod
20:10:00 <ghostly> most cost between $200-600
20:10:00 <ghostly> one comes with weights
20:10:00 <nemss> I only have two tripods
20:10:00 <ghostly> I have 3 remote head flashes
20:11:00 <ghostly> about 4 remotes but i prefer the genuine canon corded remote to be honest
20:11:00 <nemss> the corded remotes are the best
20:11:00 <ghostly> i have the goose neck for the above flash to extend it
20:11:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:11:00 <nemss> I have 3 (one is broken)
20:11:00 <ghostly> i found the remote ones stuffed up too much
20:11:00 <ghostly> sometimes caused focus to change
20:12:00 <ghostly> sometimes it had the red in the image
20:12:00 <ghostly> some were infrared
20:12:00 <ghostly> one was wireless
20:12:00 <ghostly> the 550 supports wireless
20:12:00 <nemss> I think with all that shit you should buy a new body. At LEAST the 60D and maybe the 5D3 :p
20:12:00 <ghostly> my most favor feature of the 400's and up is the lense cleaning when you turn it off
20:13:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:13:00 <ghostly> i have some mercial lenses still
20:13:00 <ghostly> have some wide angle
20:13:00 <ghostly> have a fish eye but i hate using fish eye
20:13:00 <ghostly> you always have edges you loose
20:14:00 <nemss> I am not going to upgrade my 5D2 btw (to the 5D3)... thinking about buying a second 5D2
20:14:00 <nemss> whe advantages of the 5D3 are not worth it for the type of photography I do
20:14:00 <ghostly> I mostly take photos of nature
20:14:00 <ghostly> but some high speed
20:15:00 <ghostly> due to animals moving
20:15:00 <nemss> they don't move if you shoot them first
20:15:00 <nemss> LOL (just kidding)
20:15:00 <ghostly> i used to do accident photography for the papers
20:15:00 <ghostly> lol
20:15:00 <ghostly> hahahah
20:15:00 <ghostly> I have a series of meere cats kissing
20:15:00 <ghostly> omg they're so cute
20:15:00 <ghostly> it looks like watching an episode of meer cat manner
20:16:00 <ghostly> you ever take photos in the national parks?
20:16:00 <nemss> brb, need to put some beer in the fridhe
20:16:00 <lx> 1,0 See ya1,0 nemss...
20:16:00 <ghostly> I got in trouble for doing it
20:16:00 <ghostly> ok
20:16:00 <nemss> I take photos in NPs all the time
20:16:00 <ghostly> didn't realise you needed a permit to take photos on national park land
20:16:00 <nemss> and it IS LEGAL
20:16:00 <ghostly> lol
20:16:00 <nemss> and you don't need a permit
20:17:00 <nemss> despite what idiot rangers think
20:17:00 <nemss> brb
20:17:00 <lx> 1,0 We'll still be here1,0 nemss...
20:17:00 <ghostly> fark
20:17:00 <ghostly> I got hit with a fine
20:17:00 <ghostly> and they waved it
20:17:00 <ghostly> waived
20:17:00 <ghostly> this is 3 years ago
20:17:00 <nemss> you only need a permit if it's for /commercial/ (pre-paid/contract) photography
20:17:00 <ghostly> i stand out in a crowd thanks to the battery grips
20:17:00 <ghostly> awwww ok
20:17:00 <ghostly> yeah mines for commercial
20:18:00 <ghostly> my photos get turned into wallpaper n prints for canvas production
20:18:00 <nemss> commercial does not include selling photos byw
20:18:00 <ghostly> oh?
20:18:00 <ghostly> just wedding photography type thing?
20:18:00 <nemss> commercial is if you are paid to go there and take the photo
20:18:00 <nemss> yeah, like wedding photos
20:18:00 <ghostly> ok
20:18:00 <ghostly> I fond a good source for good quality batteries
20:18:00 <ghostly> in china
20:18:00 <ghostly> I have a rapid charger
20:19:00 <ghostly> does 10mins per high cap battery
20:19:00 <ghostly> and each holster takes 2 batteries
20:19:00 <nemss> I had a huge argument with the NP people about it and eventually got put through to one of the top guys who clarified it for me
20:19:00 <ghostly> so you just swap them out if you ever need to
20:19:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:19:00 <nemss> the guys on the ground know shit
20:19:00 <ghostly> I still have my press pass
20:19:00 <ghostly> I used to use it for accy scenes
20:19:00 <ghostly> sometimes to get in sealed roads etc
20:20:00 <ghostly> depended on what the subject matter was
20:20:00 <nemss> You know what was stupid about my argument with NPs?
20:20:00 <ghostly> my 10mm is nice :)
20:20:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:20:00 <ghostly> they wanted me to pay $280 i think it as
20:20:00 <ghostly> i forgot now
20:20:00 <ghostly> they picked up my camera gear
20:20:00 <nemss> I am a botanist and have a permit to COLLECT plants; i.e. rip them out of the ground if I want
20:20:00 <ghostly> awww ok
20:20:00 <ghostly> cool
20:21:00 <nemss> but, no, taking a photo was apparently not on
20:21:00 <nemss> ROFLOL
20:21:00 <ghostly> they took my camera bags n i had a fight on my hands to get them back
20:21:00 <ghostly> and this stuck up homo woman i mean had a voice more like a guy was telling me off
20:21:00 <ghostly> lol
20:21:00 <ghostly> my 60MM is sweet though :)
20:21:00 <nemss> how could they take your camera bags?
20:22:00 <nemss> I'd have charged them with theft :/
20:22:00 <ghostly> I have a back pack and camera bag and tripod rack
20:22:00 <ghostly> i carry around
20:22:00 <ghostly> i put it down to take photos
20:22:00 <ghostly> I have filters galore
20:22:00 <nemss> even police can't take your camera bag
20:22:00 <ghostly> lense hoods
20:22:00 <ghostly> polorization filters
20:22:00 <ghostly> u.v. filters
20:22:00 <ghostly> glare filters
20:23:00 <nemss> anywya, brb, I still haven't put the beer in the fridge! LOL
20:23:00 <ghostly> ok lol
20:23:00 <ghostly> sorry everyone
20:23:00 <ghostly> as you can prolly tell i have quite a few passions
20:23:00 <ghostly> photography is one
20:23:00 <ghostly> :)
20:24:00 <ghostly> my macro flash is broken
20:24:00 <ghostly> only one ring goes off
20:24:00 <ghostly> so you get shadows
20:25:00 <MrMark> my passion is bourbon
20:26:00 <ghostly> lol
20:26:00 <MrMark> ehehehe
20:26:00 <ghostly> I've done modeling shoots for individuals wanting photos for a portfolio
20:27:00 <ghostly> but not for commercial just for friends or friends of friends
20:27:00 <nemss> I have many passions as well
20:27:00 <nemss> the more the better
20:27:00 <ghostly> hell yeah
20:27:00 <nemss> ok, gimme a song to play!
20:27:00 <ghostly> I have nice bush gear :)
20:27:00 <ghostly> sat trackers designed for dog tracking but you can use it for tracking people on a bushwalk tour
20:27:00 <ghostly> :)
20:28:00 <nemss> my passions are probably why I'll never get married
20:28:00 <ghostly> lol
20:28:00 <nemss> I don't have time, ROFLOL
20:28:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:28:00 <ghostly> I notice i have allot of toys
20:28:00 <ghostly> when i've needed cash in a hurry i flog some off on ebay
20:29:00 <nemss> fortunately I am never short of cash... I get paid too much ROFLOL
20:29:00 <ghostly> lol
20:29:00 <ghostly> thats good though
20:29:00 <ghostly> i'm self employed
20:29:00 <nemss> got nuffin' else to spend it on, so I just buy stuff
20:29:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:29:00 <ghostly> cool
20:30:00 <nemss> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDe60CbIagg
20:30:00 <nemss> I have 6 desk chairs!
20:30:00 <ghostly> I love this song
20:30:00 <nemss> and one desk
20:30:00 <ghostly> cool
20:30:00 <ghostly> hehe
20:30:00 <nemss> lol
20:30:00 <ghostly> lol
20:30:00 <ghostly> yeah i go through them
20:30:00 <ghostly> sit on one for a while get bored or swing back too far lol
20:30:00 <nemss> yeah, always on my mind is awesome
20:30:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:30:00 <ghostly> you met them?
20:31:00 <nemss> I have two chairs at my desk. Sometimes I stand on one.
20:31:00 <nemss> nah. I've never met the PSB
20:31:00 <ghostly> I run sites and online stuff for a fair few aussie bands n stuff so they're signed with labels so i get allot of free tix
20:31:00 <nemss> I've met elton john 3 times though
20:31:00 <ghostly> but i also love seeing most the 80's bands live when they revisit oz
20:31:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:31:00 <ghostly> cool
20:31:00 <ghostly> :)
20:31:00 <ghostly> i havn't
20:31:00 <nemss> lived across the road from his cousin
20:31:00 <ghostly> I've met duran duran
20:31:00 <ghostly> psudo echo
20:32:00 <ghostly> farnham
20:32:00 <ghostly> delta
20:32:00 <nemss> dleta?!
20:32:00 <ghostly> nearly met gaga
20:32:00 <nemss> *drool*
20:32:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:32:00 <nemss> lol
20:32:00 <ghostly> I sat front row on the right of stage
20:32:00 <ghostly> was so close to her
20:32:00 <nemss> I would like to be close to her...
20:32:00 <ghostly> met her at the vip function after
20:32:00 <ghostly> hehe
20:33:00 <nemss> only for a night though
20:33:00 <ghostly> hey mat if you like music vids n stuff checkout my music channel on fb some time
20:33:00 <nemss> not enough time for more than that :p
20:33:00 <ghostly> www.facebook.com/watchmusicvideos
20:33:00 <nemss> I am not on FB. Refuse to :(
20:33:00 <ghostly> I used to put them on my music website but youtube blocks it
20:33:00 <ghostly> awwww ok
20:33:00 <nemss> just a personal choice...
20:34:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:34:00 <ghostly> fair enough
20:34:00 <ghostly> i'm adding that music vid to it now
20:34:00 <nemss> lol, cool
20:34:00 <nemss> do you have any of their other songs on there?
20:35:00 <nemss> go west comes to mind as a classic
20:35:00 <ghostly> its now rated as a popular song on my site
20:35:00 <ghostly> I've met paul young
20:35:00 <ghostly> kate bush
20:35:00 <ghostly> most the here and now people
20:35:00 <ghostly> as they visited oz
20:35:00 <nemss> show off
20:36:00 <nemss> ;) :p
20:36:00 <ghostly> as part of the vip tix you got the pre drink meet n greet
20:36:00 <ghostly> and the after vip party
20:36:00 <ghostly> lol
20:36:00 <nemss> I bet you've never met kim carnes!
20:36:00 <ghostly> i havn't
20:36:00 <nemss> lol
20:36:00 <ghostly> i met angry anderson
20:36:00 <ghostly> jimmy barns
20:37:00 <nemss> angry anderson -- just him or tattoo rose (or whatever the band was called)
20:37:00 <ghostly> i was part of a theatre production with brian brown
20:37:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:37:00 <ghostly> i met the guy out of the oils
20:37:00 <ghostly> peter garret
20:37:00 <nemss> I met a girl from McDonalds once
20:37:00 <ghostly> hahahaha
20:37:00 <nemss> lol
20:38:00 <ghostly> i had a girl from maccas write her number down on a surviette
20:38:00 <nemss> I met her because I bought a filet'o'fish
20:38:00 <ghostly> and when i showed it off to a mate he pointed out there was 1 number short
20:38:00 <ghostly> lol
20:38:00 <nemss> never seen her again though
20:38:00 <ghostly> hahahahaha
20:38:00 <ghostly> nah this girl gave me a fake number
20:38:00 <ghostly> was 1 num short
20:39:00 <nemss> it's times like those you need to set up a war dialer
20:39:00 <ghostly> hahahaha
20:39:00 <ghostly> oh remember the days
20:39:00 <ghostly> lol
20:39:00 <ghostly> ya know with my sms server i can send 10,000 sms's out a minute?
20:39:00 <nemss> yeah, I remember the days... 2400 baud modems... they sucked
20:39:00 <nemss> LOL
20:39:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:39:00 <ghostly> oh
20:39:00 <ghostly> wait
20:39:00 <ghostly> acoustic couplers
20:40:00 <ghostly> I had one of those
20:40:00 <ghostly> my first bbs i ran i wrote in basic on a microbe
20:40:00 <nemss> fortunately I never had to endure an acoustic coupler
20:40:00 <ghostly> used an acoustic coupler
20:40:00 <ghostly> 75/300 baud
20:40:00 <ghostly> :)
20:40:00 <ghostly> you flicked a little metal toggle switch
20:40:00 <ghostly> it looked like a space station handset
20:40:00 <nemss> I did see one on a TV show called "whiz kids" though
20:40:00 <ghostly> it was that chunky and had this flexi ribbed rubber from the ear piece to the microphone
20:40:00 <ghostly> lol
20:40:00 <nemss> he broke someone out of prison using one
20:40:00 <nemss> lol
20:41:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:41:00 <ghostly> lol
20:41:00 <ghostly> hahaha
20:41:00 <ghostly> my dad was high up in the postmaster general / telecom australia
20:41:00 <ghostly> so most of my gadgets were on loan from his work
20:41:00 <nemss> "loan"... sure they were :p
20:41:00 <ghostly> remember phreaking
20:41:00 <ghostly> :)
20:42:00 <ghostly> I had this cool v22 I had access to
20:42:00 <ghostly> could redial
20:42:00 <ghostly> so you connted to a local phone number
20:42:00 <nemss> bloody jobs and waz made their first fortune phreaking
20:42:00 <ghostly> then had a command prompt
20:42:00 <ghostly> typed v22
20:42:00 <nemss> s/waz/woz
20:42:00 <ghostly> and a telix screen appeared
20:42:00 <ghostly> lol
20:42:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:43:00 <ghostly> remember the days of Fifo buffering
20:43:00 <ghostly> lol
20:43:00 <nemss> wow
20:43:00 <nemss> wonder what happened then
20:43:00 <ghostly> 8250 chipset was non buffered
20:44:00 <nemss> yeah, LIFO is much fairer (LOL)
20:44:00 <ghostly> 16450 chipset was non fifo
20:44:00 <ghostly> then 16550
20:44:00 <ghostly> was first buffer chip
20:44:00 <ghostly> :)
20:44:00 <ghostly> I had the first digicom 2 port and 4 port cards
20:44:00 <ghostly> I ran a 14 line bbs
20:44:00 <nemss> I think these days that the buffers are causing problems
20:44:00 <ghostly> with split screen chat using ansi
20:44:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:44:00 <nemss> things get stuck in the cache for too long
20:44:00 <ghostly> remember seeing the data get lost
20:45:00 <ghostly> the buffer would build up and the fosil driver software would stop sending to the port would just dump the data
20:45:00 <ghostly> so you'de loose characters
20:45:00 <ghostly> lol
20:45:00 <ghostly> fark man we old school
20:45:00 <nemss> yeah, because one end has a lower buffer or whatever
20:45:00 <ghostly> pitty ya not local
20:45:00 <ghostly> remember serial port lan
20:45:00 <ghostly> brought out by Lantastic
20:45:00 <ghostly> the owners of Laplink
20:45:00 <ghostly> I have photos of my server farm
20:46:00 <nemss> so heaps of restransmits are sent
20:46:00 <ghostly> yep
20:46:00 <ghostly> remember IPX
20:46:00 <ghostly> before tcp
20:46:00 <ghostly> lol
20:46:00 <nemss> z-modem
20:46:00 <ghostly> no
20:46:00 <nemss> x-modem
20:46:00 <nemss> y-modem
20:46:00 <ghostly> xmodem
20:46:00 <nemss> lol
20:46:00 <ghostly> with no retry
20:46:00 <ghostly> you lost data tough shit
20:46:00 <ghostly> zmodem was based around Zip compressions crc checking methods
20:46:00 <ghostly> thats what it was called zmodem they later renamed z from zip to another name due to copyright
20:47:00 <nemss> you could exploit z-modem with bbs' that had leach limits
20:47:00 <ghostly> oh
20:47:00 <ghostly> ya know my bbs is still here
20:47:00 <ghostly> i have telnet access only
20:47:00 <ghostly> lol
20:47:00 <ghostly> its not running at the oment
20:47:00 <ghostly> moment
20:47:00 <ghostly> remember fidonet days
20:47:00 <ghostly> you emailed someone
20:47:00 <ghostly> you could send them a letter in the post hat got there quicker
20:47:00 <ghostly> hahaha
20:47:00 <nemss> you'd disconnect the download just before the DL was registered as finished on the BBS (but actually finished on ya computer) and the whole download would not count
20:48:00 <ghostly> do you remember ummmm
20:48:00 <ghostly> QModem
20:48:00 <nemss> yep
20:48:00 <ghostly> and Pmodem
20:48:00 <ghostly> had multi tasking
20:48:00 <ghostly> you could chat
20:48:00 <ghostly> or play a simple game with a mate
20:48:00 <ghostly> or multi line chat
20:48:00 <nemss> I remember them all... I cut my teeth on all those old protocols
20:48:00 <ghostly> whilst downloading
20:48:00 <ghostly> there was a stack of ones i tried
20:48:00 <ghostly> i wrote australias first online shopping software
20:49:00 <ghostly> sold it to a music company in adelaide for $20k when i was 14
20:49:00 <ghostly> lol
20:49:00 <ghostly> back then $20k was hardcore
20:49:00 <nemss> I wrote the WORLD first online game with most of the processing on the local computer and not the "server"/bbs
20:49:00 <nemss> I should have patented that
20:49:00 <MrMark> saucy
20:49:00 <nemss> serious
20:49:00 <ghostly> i'm not takling shit btw
20:49:00 <ghostly> :)
20:50:00 <nemss> all that was sent over the modem was position stuff, etc and the local computer would do the rest
20:50:00 <ghostly> I still have the source code
20:50:00 <nemss> this was before doom
20:50:00 <ghostly> still have the self encrypting exe's
20:50:00 <ghostly> i had a game i wrote called Worlds
20:50:00 <ghostly> and you had rooms
20:50:00 <ghostly> you picked up items
20:50:00 <ghostly> I based it around this adult game I found
20:51:00 <ghostly> where you picked up dildos n stuff
20:51:00 <ghostly> was a multi player adult sex game
20:51:00 <ghostly> remember porn OMG
20:51:00 <ghostly> you'de add 10 images and come back hrs later when they downloaded
20:51:00 <ghostly> lol
20:51:00 <ghostly> ya know my RosDoor (Remote Online Shopping Door)
20:51:00 <ghostly> was all text based
20:52:00 <ghostly> no accomodation for images
20:52:00 <ghostly> just wasn't possible
20:52:00 <ghostly> lol
20:52:00 <nemss> here you go, ghostly: http://www.asciipr0n.com/
20:52:00 <ghostly> oherrrrr
20:52:00 <nemss> lol
20:52:00 <ghostly> I kept all my source code
20:52:00 <ghostly> and i have all emails from 1992 onwards
20:52:00 <nemss> I lost all my src code about 6 years ago :(
20:52:00 <ghostly> I migrated the emails over each time i changed software
20:52:00 <ghostly> yeah?
20:53:00 <ghostly> i lost most my photos about 2 years ago
20:53:00 <ghostly> :(
20:53:00 <ghostly> I setup a striped drive of 2x 500gb drives
20:53:00 <ghostly> thinking i was cool
20:53:00 <ghostly> 1 drive died
20:53:00 <nemss> yeah, dumb mistake... the CD had not burned properly
20:53:00 <ghostly> all lost
20:53:00 <ghostly> yeah i know
20:53:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:53:00 <ghostly> omg..... how stupid is this
20:53:00 <ghostly> I lost one of my programs when I backed up the shortcuts
20:53:00 <ghostly> lol
20:53:00 <ghostly> I forgot to right click drag
20:53:00 <ghostly> accidently left dragged
20:53:00 <ghostly> how n00bie is that
20:54:00 <nemss> *shrug* it happens :)
20:54:00 <ghostly> formatted restored the data and was just shortcuts
20:54:00 <ghostly> lol
20:54:00 <ghostly> was not happy
20:54:00 <nemss> lol, similar to what I did
20:54:00 <ghostly> hey you know FrontDoor
20:54:00 <nemss> yep
20:54:00 <ghostly> I ran it using my backup
20:54:00 <ghostly> :(
20:54:00 <ghostly> to play with it
20:55:00 <ghostly> deleted 140,000 or so messages
20:55:00 <ghostly> in seconds
20:55:00 <ghostly> lol
20:55:00 <ghostly> forgot about auto expirey
20:55:00 <nemss> lol (sorry I should not laugh)
20:55:00 <ghostly> i wanted to read my old emails just for fun
20:55:00 <ghostly> and it took ages to load
20:55:00 <ghostly> then said "140,000" something deleted
20:55:00 <ghostly> i went in
20:55:00 <ghostly> only about 140 private messages left
20:55:00 <ghostly> ya know RA BBS?
20:56:00 <ghostly> Remote Access BBS?
20:56:00 <nemss> so, why didn't you fire up Norton or something and relink the nodes on the disk :p
20:56:00 <ghostly> I was part of their dev team
20:56:00 <nemss> (by hand)
20:56:00 <ghostly> lol
20:56:00 <nemss> would have taken a while but you probably could have done it
20:56:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:56:00 <ghostly> i know
20:56:00 <nemss> you'd probably still be doing it now though I guess
20:56:00 <nemss> LOL
20:56:00 <ghostly> but the mail format i would have to look up
20:57:00 <ghostly> lol
20:57:00 <ghostly> remember back then everything com related was written in pascal
20:57:00 <nemss> pfft. ASM all the way baby
20:57:00 <ghostly> sif asim
20:57:00 <ghostly> asam
20:57:00 <ghostly> I had to look it up for the reg codes
20:57:00 <ghostly> i couldn't program without consulting the guide
20:58:00 <ghostly> i only used asm to hack someone elses program
20:58:00 <ghostly> lol
20:58:00 <ghostly> remember going into a debugger make a change n recompile
20:58:00 <ghostly> those were the days
20:58:00 <nemss> I only used asm *shrug* perhaps I was weird.
20:58:00 <ghostly> even my printer drivers I wrote for Casio
20:58:00 <ghostly> they were all in basic7
20:58:00 <ghostly> using PDQ compiler written in c
20:59:00 <ghostly> PDQ libraries Pretty Damn Quick
20:59:00 <nemss> modula-2 is nice though (supercharged pascal)
20:59:00 <ghostly> added c functionality to basic
20:59:00 <ghostly> yeah
20:59:00 <ghostly> I learnt pascal, fortran (ugh), some main frame language, basic, c and i only used asm for editing tsr stuff or changing exe calls
21:00:00 <ghostly> I made a packet out of my bbs's
21:00:00 <ghostly> back then people paid $15/w for access
21:00:00 <nemss> turbo-c... oh, those were the days
21:00:00 <ghostly> oh yeah
21:00:00 <ghostly> turbo had a nice editor
21:00:00 <nemss> shit yeah
21:00:00 <ghostly> had syntax highlighting
21:00:00 <nemss> I'd use that editor today
21:00:00 <ghostly> *drools*
21:01:00 <ghostly> ya know between all my servers in australia and now in the US
21:01:00 <ghostly> I still use "joe" because it uses DOS Wordstar commands
21:01:00 <ghostly> lol
21:01:00 <ghostly> hahaa
21:01:00 <nemss> oh dear :)
21:01:00 <nemss> vim!
21:01:00 <ghostly> ^K B = start copy
21:01:00 <nemss> get with the times :p
21:01:00 <ghostly> ^K K = end copy
21:01:00 <ghostly> ^K C = copy block
21:01:00 <ghostly> ^K M = move block
21:02:00 <ghostly> lol
21:02:00 <ghostly> nah man
21:02:00 <ghostly> I admin 45 servers now
21:02:00 <nemss> well, at least they don't look more stupid than emacs commands
21:02:00 <nemss> roflol
21:02:00 <ghostly> you dont want to change what you use as a tool
21:02:00 <ghostly> unless you have to
21:02:00 <nemss> nah, I understand that
21:02:00 <ghostly> joe even has code highlighting
21:02:00 <nemss> you use what you know best
21:02:00 <ghostly> yep
21:02:00 <ghostly> and joe i can call up any encoded file
21:03:00 <nemss> I use vim, but many, many people hat it
21:03:00 <nemss> s/hat/hate
21:03:00 <ghostly> omg the number of people that have mixed latin n utf-8
21:03:00 <ghostly> omg
21:03:00 <ghostly> have you noticed that?
21:03:00 <ghostly> in 1 website
21:03:00 <nemss> text encoding is a problem...
21:03:00 <ghostly> you can spot it a mile off
21:03:00 <ghostly> yep
21:03:00 <ghostly> A's with tilders above them
21:03:00 <ghostly> lol
21:03:00 <ghostly> = SPACE bar or even a " in the wrong encoding
21:03:00 <nemss> I am not even sure there is a proper solution to the problem to be honest
21:04:00 <ghostly> they never will
21:04:00 <ghostly> UTF-8 is the best solution
21:04:00 <ghostly> but doesn't cover symbolic languages
21:04:00 <nemss> given a random text file it is very difficult to work out what encoding should be used
21:04:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:04:00 <nemss> yeah utf-8 is optimal
21:04:00 <ghostly> I get paid $220 to repair someones wordpress that's moved and got corrupted
21:04:00 <nemss> you do?
21:04:00 <ghostly> I wrote a script based on some copied code
21:05:00 <nemss> shit, I am going to change jobs
21:05:00 <nemss> lol
21:05:00 <ghostly> :)
21:05:00 <ghostly> it took almost half a year to solve it
21:05:00 <ghostly> so be fucked if i dont charge full price
21:05:00 <ghostly> i wasn't working on it all the time
21:05:00 <ghostly> ofcourse
21:05:00 <nemss> I got out of programming about 14 years ago... maybe it's time I went back
21:05:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:06:00 <ghostly> my last hosted solution reached end of life in april
21:06:00 <ghostly> thats why i'm on here so much
21:06:00 <ghostly> :)
21:06:00 <ghostly> when i'm doing software dev i dont have time for irc
21:06:00 <ghostly> that contract lasted 5 years
21:06:00 <ghostly> didnt have much spare time
21:06:00 <ghostly> was good money
21:06:00 <ghostly> mixed mining and commercial industrial
21:07:00 <ghostly> they rejected the $80k quote for changes they wanted and instead went with Microsoft CRM thinking it did all the funky formulas my product did
21:07:00 <ghostly> lol
21:07:00 <nemss> I think my problem was I disdained "web" languages and especially HTML. For no rational reason. In my arrogance I passed them off as not real programming
21:07:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:07:00 <ghostly> I still get software contacts man
21:07:00 <nemss> If it wasn't C, C++ or ASM I wasn't interested. *sigh*
21:08:00 <ghostly> I designed a simulation interface for brevil for doing market research for new lcd panel designs
21:08:00 <ghostly> designed a java based client and server app for a m2m dam co-ordination system
21:08:00 <ghostly> that still works till today controlling damn flow for sydney
21:08:00 <nemss> brb.. need to pee (this beer is flowing nicely now)
21:08:00 <lx> 1,0 hb1,0 nemss...
21:08:00 <ghostly> ok
21:09:00 <ghostly> Yeah
21:09:00 <ghostly> same
21:09:00 <ghostly> I failed at asm
21:09:00 <ghostly> I know how to push n shit
21:09:00 <ghostly> just the references
21:10:00 <ghostly> my first software package i wrote was a bbs that i needed to manaully connect the acoustic coupler to the phone when someone rung
21:10:00 <nemss> wtf? Are we all programmers here?
21:10:00 <ghostly> was a microbee
21:10:00 <ghostly> written in basic
21:10:00 <ghostly> support short messages
21:10:00 <ghostly> all caps lock
21:10:00 <ghostly> i dont even think it was lower case back then
21:10:00 <ghostly> I forget
21:10:00 <nemss> K&R is still a bible
21:10:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:10:00 <ghostly> but everythings object orientated now
21:11:00 <ghostly> sow hilst k&r is good for referencing in principle it doesn't offer a real life solution in application
21:11:00 <ghostly> cool man
21:11:00 <ghostly> :)
21:11:00 <nemss> ghostly, and the new programmers these days don't even know what an 'object' is!
21:11:00 <nemss> (e.g. C DOES have objects)
21:11:00 <ghostly> I used to part of a company called BridgeNet
21:11:00 <nemss> so do most languages
21:11:00 <ghostly> it was 3 software companies
21:11:00 <nemss> they confuse classes with objects
21:11:00 <nemss> *sigh*
21:11:00 <ghostly> who pooled staff to produce differed hardware and software soltuions
21:12:00 <ghostly> omg
21:12:00 <ghostly> ya know whats fucked
21:12:00 <ghostly> they made language so loos
21:12:00 <ghostly> loose
21:12:00 <ghostly> not having to define if something was an int or str
21:12:00 <ghostly> so you'de get someones code and hit your head against the desk because they didn't know what to expect
21:12:00 <ghostly> lol
21:12:00 <ghostly> some of the guys i hired were funny as
21:13:00 <ghostly> hey guys
21:13:00 <ghostly> us talking about this
21:13:00 <ghostly> is it ok in this chan
21:13:00 <nemss> yes, and they get confused with pointers because they DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEREFERENCE!
21:13:00 <ghostly> like we're talking and no one else is understanding us
21:13:00 <ghostly> hehe
21:13:00 <ghostly> omg
21:13:00 <ghostly> how about dev guys who dont know what a class is
21:13:00 <ghostly> hahahahahaha
21:13:00 <ghostly> or a library is
21:13:00 <Sunbeam> or we ain't paying attention :P
21:13:00 <ghostly> hahahaaha
21:13:00 <ghostly> ok
21:13:00 <ghostly> just recently i needed a guy to do some changes for me
21:13:00 <ghostly> ummm
21:13:00 <ghostly> bout 8months now ago
21:14:00 <nemss> what's a library?
21:14:00 <ghostly> I said I wanted a function that did this
21:14:00 <nemss> lol, kk
21:14:00 <ghostly> lol bastard
21:14:00 <ghostly> lol
21:14:00 <ghostly> libraries work great uncompiled
21:14:00 <ghostly> hahaha
21:14:00 <ghostly> cool
21:14:00 <nemss> 6809? Motorola?
21:14:00 <ghostly> most of my stuff is for phillips chipsets
21:15:00 <ghostly> via jtag
21:15:00 <ghostly> using a java dev
21:15:00 <ghostly> for m2m
21:15:00 <ghostly> I find m2m shitloads more interesting
21:15:00 <nemss> 68k asm is much more sane than 8086 (IMO)
21:15:00 <ghostly> as you're working with engineers
21:15:00 <ghostly> remember polling for a tsr to load
21:15:00 <ghostly> and creating a handler
21:15:00 <ghostly> lol
21:16:00 <ghostly> I was a dickhead and remapped a friends keyboard using a simple piss easy tsr that remapped 10 random keys to 10 random characters
21:16:00 <ghostly> lol
21:16:00 <ghostly> you pressed escape twice to make it close
21:17:00 <ghostly> any tiem you typed i made the caps lock light flash
21:17:00 <ghostly> lol
21:17:00 <nemss> tsr... that's an acronym most will not know the meaning of
21:17:00 <ghostly> Terminate Stay Resident
21:17:00 <ghostly> the first multitasking
21:17:00 <nemss> no, i do silly
21:17:00 <nemss> i meant most other people
21:17:00 <nemss> lol
21:17:00 <ghostly> though primative
21:17:00 <ghostly> hahaha
21:17:00 <ghostly> i knwo you would
21:18:00 <ghostly> hey do you remember when lib's first came about
21:18:00 <ghostly> omg
21:18:00 <ghostly> all of a sudden you could write yoru library in C or asm and use basic or pascal as your main dev language
21:18:00 <ghostly> so you kept procedures seperate to code
21:19:00 <ghostly> you just had to declare them properly
21:19:00 <ghostly> so always helped if the lib came with docs
21:19:00 <ghostly> lol
21:19:00 <ghostly> using a decompiler to backwards architect it was possible but time consuming
21:20:00 <ghostly> Oh nemms
21:20:00 <ghostly> remember SZmodem
21:20:00 <ghostly> omg that one was awesome
21:20:00 <ghostly> :)
21:20:00 <ghostly> you know up until 2 years ago I used zmodem on all my servers to easily admin them
21:20:00 <ghostly> lol
21:20:00 <ghostly> just do rz
21:20:00 <ghostly> then upload box game up in the ssh software
21:21:00 <ghostly> did you guys ever work on deskqview environments?
21:21:00 <nemss> vope
21:21:00 <ghostly> omg
21:22:00 <ghostly> I was one of the first testers
21:22:00 <nemss> geez i cannot type tonight
21:22:00 <nemss> lol
21:22:00 <nemss> must be the beer
21:22:00 <ghostly> QuickBBS
21:22:00 <ghostly> who later become RA BBS
21:22:00 <ghostly> I was on their beta team
21:22:00 <ghostly> and we got the DeskqView to test
21:22:00 <ghostly> back then eval meant you could run it on unlimited machines with a licence
21:22:00 <ghostly> lol
21:22:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:22:00 <ghostly> hehe
21:23:00 <ghostly> decompilers were fantastic
21:23:00 <ghostly> I recompiled some of mine
21:23:00 <ghostly> some worked
21:23:00 <ghostly> some wouldn't
21:23:00 <ghostly> I think it was due to my decompiler
21:23:00 <nemss> Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AuHibzE0aY
21:23:00 <ghostly> with DeskqView it was the first Multi tasking multiple DOS instances on 1 machine
21:23:00 <nemss> glenn, that is not an insignifant achievement
21:24:00 <ghostly> hehe
21:24:00 <nemss> personally my first asm was 6802
21:24:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:25:00 <nemss> which was probably not that much different to 6809
21:25:00 <MrMark> ive done that
21:25:00 <ghostly> you guys ever done dev on risc?
21:25:00 <ghostly> risc was a pain
21:25:00 <MrMark> i did 8086 asm about 18 years ago lol
21:25:00 <ghostly> you have 2 options.. asm or this risc dev kit
21:25:00 <ghostly> omg
21:25:00 <nemss> i've only done risc with C
21:25:00 <ghostly> 8086 instruction set was so limited
21:25:00 <ghostly> lol'
21:25:00 <ghostly> hahaha
21:26:00 <ghostly> remember the days of IC memory?
21:26:00 <ghostly> no fancy plugin boards
21:26:00 <nemss> biggest problem with 8086 was the stupid paging of memory
21:26:00 <ghostly> 1MB ram was a packet of IC's on static free foam
21:26:00 <ghostly> yes I agree
21:26:00 <ghostly> most of my programs if they hit memory problems would crash
21:26:00 <ghostly> yeah?
21:27:00 <ghostly> did you ever build an APPLE2?
21:27:00 <ghostly> I built my first apple 2e myself
21:27:00 <ghostly> was a clone
21:27:00 <ghostly> i was 13/14
21:27:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:27:00 <ghostly> you remember Amstrads?
21:27:00 <nemss> Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9foZ7KVSng
21:27:00 <ghostly> <--- at age 18 was responsible for doing head alignments on all Amstrads in australia under warranty lol for about 9 months
21:28:00 <ghostly> at the same company my next job was pulling appart modems removing the sticker and erasing the eproms
21:28:00 <ghostly> lol
21:28:00 <ghostly> then using a asm burner for dumping the eprom code back on
21:28:00 <nemss> <--- at age 18 was responsible for trying every alcoholic beverage available
21:28:00 <ghostly> Is till have a serial based eprom programmer somewhere
21:28:00 <ghostly> hahahahaha
21:29:00 <nemss> <--- at current age not much has changed
21:29:00 <ghostly> nah i worked since 12/13/14 around there
21:29:00 <nemss> lol
21:29:00 <ghostly> it took my attention off the abuse at home
21:29:00 <ghostly> yeah lol OMG
21:29:00 <ghostly> mine was high teck
21:29:00 <ghostly> tech
21:29:00 <ghostly> mine was the lamp
21:29:00 <ghostly> and a cardboard box
21:29:00 <ghostly> lol
21:30:00 <ghostly> hahahahaqha
21:30:00 <nemss> you guys looked at the raspberry Pi?
21:30:00 <nemss> I've ordered two
21:30:00 <ghostly> just got a new UV bolb
21:30:00 <ghostly> place it over a carboard box
21:30:00 <ghostly> and do a batch
21:30:00 <ghostly> 1-2hrs and it was erased
21:30:00 <ghostly> mind you I was reassembling up to 120 x 28.8k modems a day with new face plates and eproms
21:30:00 <ghostly> hehe
21:31:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:31:00 <ghostly> mine is a fluro
21:31:00 <nemss> Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFPajU-d-Ek
21:31:00 <ghostly> makes your eyes go funny
21:31:00 <ghostly> hehe
21:31:00 <ghostly> when you stare it it your eye doesnt close up
21:31:00 <ghostly> you look away and you have this grey mark on what you're looking at
21:31:00 <ghostly> lol
21:31:00 <nemss> when the night falls down
21:31:00 <nemss> I wait for you
21:31:00 <ghostly> hahahahaha
21:32:00 <ghostly> do you remember when BNC came out
21:32:00 <ghostly> hahahahaha
21:32:00 <ghostly> the best network card was the 8009
21:32:00 <ghostly> :)
21:32:00 <ghostly> lol
21:33:00 <ghostly> remember when you bought a maths processor seperately
21:33:00 <ghostly> lol
21:33:00 <nemss> hmm, FPUs
21:33:00 <lx> ...ah huh...
21:33:00 <ghostly> I didn't sell shit myself as a kid I would line up sales for computer shops and they paid me comission
21:33:00 <ghostly> but i still have my price lists
21:34:00 <ghostly> AMBER screens
21:34:00 <ghostly> lol
21:34:00 <nemss> glenn, my new headphones probably have a more powerful FPU ROFLOL
21:34:00 <nemss> I quite like amber screens
21:35:00 <nemss> Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydOB-YNJ8Jw
21:35:00 <ghostly> do you remember when a cmos battery was this huge square battery?
21:36:00 <ghostly> and you mounted it with veltro to your case
21:36:00 <ghostly> lol
21:36:00 <nemss> do you remember 8" floppies?
21:36:00 <ghostly> no
21:36:00 <nemss> lucky you
21:36:00 <nemss> lol
21:36:00 <ghostly> I only had 5.25
21:36:00 <ghostly> omg...
21:36:00 <ghostly> one of the ones I played with used magnetic strip
21:36:00 <ghostly> about 18cm long strips
21:37:00 <nemss> I still have an 8" floppy drive here.... dunno if it works though
21:37:00 <ghostly> was the first hand pc from HP
21:37:00 <ghostly> they gave one to my dads work to try and get the govt to buy a stack for field guys
21:37:00 <ghostly> no LCD screens
21:37:00 <ghostly> it was a LED screen
21:37:00 <nemss> lol Glenn
21:37:00 <ghostly> lol
21:37:00 <ghostly> as in LEDS not as in cool led screens now
21:37:00 <ghostly> hahahaha
21:38:00 <ghostly> i still have all the prices lists from selling stuff
21:38:00 <ghostly> its on my other computer
21:38:00 <nemss> I wonder where I can buy blank media for my 8" floppy drive
21:38:00 <ghostly> would you like like to go through them
21:38:00 <ghostly> for nastalga reasons?
21:38:00 <ghostly> lol
21:38:00 <nemss> lol
21:38:00 <nemss> no, to match my peni ... umm don't worry
21:39:00 <ghostly> do you remember tape drives
21:39:00 <ghostly> C63 casette
21:39:00 <ghostly> lol
21:39:00 <ghostly> software stored on an audio casset
21:39:00 <nemss> C-128 had double sided 5'25"!
21:39:00 <ghostly> ya know that was all stored as a MODEM stream?
21:39:00 <ghostly> I forget what baud the audio was
21:40:00 <ghostly> had a carrier tone beep each data block
21:40:00 <ghostly> lol
21:40:00 <ghostly> you said how many blocks in you wanted to run the program
21:40:00 <nemss> better than a carrier pigeon on each block... they put pooh everywhere
21:40:00 <ghostly> oh no glen
21:40:00 <ghostly> 75 :)
21:41:00 <ghostly> sounds like a phones tone
21:41:00 <ghostly> when you press buttons
21:41:00 <ghostly> lol
21:41:00 <ghostly> hahaha
21:41:00 <nemss> Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAfxs0IDeMs&ob=av2n
21:42:00 <ghostly> remember looking up the interupt registers in a cheat sheet to talk to the video buffers
21:42:00 <ghostly> back then you wrote bits direct to the video buffer
21:42:00 <ghostly> lol
21:44:00 <ghostly> do you guys remember opening an interupt and waiting for a timout before you talk to a device?
21:45:00 <ghostly> lol
21:45:00 <ghostly> yeah
21:45:00 <ghostly> and all different now
21:45:00 <ghostly> and redundant but not in principle
21:45:00 <ghostly> structured language is structured language learn 1 and you know all
21:45:00 <ghostly> just syntax and referencing changes
21:45:00 <ghostly> but principle is the same
21:45:00 <nemss> back than you used asm to swap the low nibble to high and add the x offset to get better performance for a 320 wide buffer :p
21:46:00 <ghostly> remember having to keep track of your offset all the time
21:46:00 <ghostly> lol
21:46:00 <Sunbeam> ok who made me flash n beep? lol
21:47:00 <ghostly> yeap
21:47:00 <ghostly> lol
21:47:00 <nemss> glenn, yes; and much quicker than a multiply
21:47:00 <nemss> (much, much, much quciker)
21:48:00 <ghostly> remember having to open an IRQ and wait for a failure in order to test if something was present
21:48:00 <ghostly> and if you wanted to control a device you had to control it not use a driver like now
21:48:00 <ghostly> lol
21:48:00 <ghostly> hahahah
21:48:00 <nemss> I think swapping low nibble to high was one cycle
21:48:00 <ghostly> I wrote a printer driver for postscript printing for casios commercial printers
21:48:00 <nemss> where as even addition was about 10
21:48:00 <ghostly> they made a change to the calls
21:48:00 <ghostly> and i had to re-write heaps of code
21:49:00 <ghostly> lol
21:49:00 <ghostly> remember having to manually unallocate memory?
21:50:00 <ghostly> sorry "release"
21:50:00 <ghostly> lol
21:50:00 <nemss> Glenn, no it didn't but you still did a LSL and then looked at the carry
21:51:00 <MrMark> bourbon
21:51:00 <ghostly> remember converting an integer to bits to find statuses of devices
21:51:00 <ghostly> lol
21:52:00 <ghostly> hey glen
21:52:00 <ghostly> is there a website for this chan
21:53:00 <MrMark> no dont remember that lol
21:54:00 <ghostly> hey glenn
21:54:00 <ghostly> is there a page for this chan?
21:57:00 <ghostly> hello?
21:58:00 <ghostly> you there nemss?
21:59:00 <ghostly> haha
21:59:00 <nemss> yes, still standing on chair
21:59:00 <ghostly> lol'
22:00:00 <ghostly> What do you think was the biggest advance in the 80's that had the greatest impact in computing in general?
22:00:00 <ghostly> Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfIcZtjAch8&feature=related
22:00:00 <ghostly> Remember this golden gem :)
22:00:00 <Sunbeam> i remember it well
22:00:00 <ghostly> :)
22:01:00 <ghostly> I think this music was so cult.....
22:01:00 <Sunbeam> i loved the 80's
22:01:00 <ghostly> Everyone who was "cool" wanted to see it
22:01:00 <ghostly> and everyone who wasn't wanted to see it to be "cool"
22:01:00 <ghostly> lol
22:01:00 <ghostly> hahaha
22:02:00 <ghostly> rain keeps falling.... rain keeps faling... down down.....
22:02:00 <ghostly> hey hey hey hey......
22:02:00 <MrMark> i know it...ummmmm
22:02:00 <ghostly> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh....ohhhhh hhhhhhh
22:03:00 <ghostly> Simple Minds
22:03:00 <ghostly> :)
22:03:00 <MrMark> yes!
22:03:00 <ghostly> I got their album on cd that has this on it
22:03:00 <ghostly> but i never ripped it
22:03:00 <ghostly> lol
22:03:00 <MrMark> shes so fine..theres no tellin where the money went
22:03:00 <Sunbeam> :)
22:03:00 <ghostly> that movie was so awesome Sunbeam
22:04:00 <ghostly> it had the 5 main stereo types of teens
22:04:00 <ghostly> lol
22:04:00 <MrMark> listenin to Simple Minds now
22:04:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:04:00 <ghostly> cool
22:04:00 <ghostly> I have a golden oldie for you after this one sunbeam
22:04:00 <Sunbeam> which movie?
22:04:00 <ghostly> this song is from the Breakfast Club
22:05:00 <ghostly> remember it?
22:05:00 <ghostly> if you're hearing it you're looking at it so you should
22:06:00 <ghostly> you had the rebel guy, rebel girl, nerd, goodie goodie, headmaster who was a try hard lol
22:06:00 <ghostly> related to everyone
22:06:00 <Sunbeam> now am lost
22:06:00 <ghostly> oh?
22:06:00 <MrMark> Molly Ringworm
22:07:00 <ghostly> Sunbeam: where did you get lost?
22:07:00 <Sunbeam> which song is from breakfast club?
22:07:00 <ghostly> the song by simple minds
22:07:00 <Sunbeam> ok
22:07:00 <ghostly> now
22:07:00 <ghostly> this song which is next
22:07:00 <ghostly> is an old eurythmics song
22:08:00 <ghostly> that was remastered
22:08:00 <ghostly> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TzFnYcIqj6I
22:08:00 <ghostly> enjoy
22:08:00 <ghostly> :)
22:08:00 <MrMark> eurythmics!!
22:08:00 <MrMark> i love em
22:08:00 <Sunbeam> no rain here in Barnsley :P
22:08:00 <ghostly> same
22:09:00 <ghostly> so much of todays music sounds similar to other music
22:09:00 <ghostly> back then each song was totally differnt
22:09:00 <ghostly> really creative
22:10:00 <Sunbeam> :)
22:11:00 <ghostly> so besides glenn n nemss anyone else here a dev?
22:11:00 <Sunbeam> dev?
22:12:00 <ghostly> developer
22:12:00 <ghostly> :)
22:12:00 <ghostly> new name for programmer
22:12:00 <Sunbeam> ok :)
22:12:00 <ghostly> on my watch music page i have all these videos im getting u to play btw
22:13:00 <ghostly> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5pC3VJA_CB8
22:13:00 <ghostly> omg this song
22:13:00 <ghostly> i used to like so much
22:14:00 <ghostly> but not as much now
22:14:00 <ghostly> i like how it changes
22:14:00 <ghostly> in the middle
22:16:00 <ghostly> oh oh oh
22:16:00 <ghostly> remember rick ashley
22:16:00 <ghostly> OMG
22:16:00 <ghostly> lol
22:17:00 <ghostly> the 80's gave us so many fantastic people but also some weird ones
22:17:00 <ghostly> Sunbeam: whats your fav artist from the 80's
22:18:00 <ghostly> nemss: Whats yours?
22:18:00 <nemss> me?
22:18:00 <nemss> umm...
22:18:00 <Sunbeam> hmmmm
22:18:00 <lx> ...ah huh...
22:18:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:18:00 <Sunbeam> i remember thinking how pwhorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Paul Young was
22:19:00 <nemss> probably banannaram
22:19:00 <Sunbeam> he was a right sexy bag of scrumptiousness lol
22:19:00 <nemss> I dunno
22:19:00 <nemss> there is so much to choose from
22:19:00 <nemss> billy idol
22:20:00 <Sunbeam> too late for a white wedding
22:20:00 <ghostly> omg.....
22:20:00 <nemss> inxs
22:20:00 <ghostly> I was so disapointed
22:20:00 <Sunbeam> with a rebel yell.....
22:20:00 <ghostly> I met paul young
22:20:00 <ghostly> he was pissed
22:20:00 <nemss> pet shop boys
22:20:00 <ghostly> he fell asleep drunk on the stage
22:20:00 <ghostly> omg
22:20:00 <ghostly> vip tix
22:20:00 <nemss> james brown
22:20:00 <ghostly> and he's asleep
22:20:00 <ghostly> halfway through the here n now tour
22:21:00 <ghostly> they escorted him off stage
22:21:00 <ghostly> and the next came on
22:21:00 <ghostly> you ever been to a here n now concert Sunbeam?
22:21:00 <nemss> eurythmic
22:21:00 <nemss> eurythmics
22:22:00 <MrMark> what song
22:22:00 <nemss> here comes the rain again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzFnYcIqj6I
22:22:00 <MrMark> oooer
22:22:00 <MrMark> love it
22:22:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:22:00 <ghostly> hey ness
22:22:00 <ghostly> remeber this one
22:22:00 <ghostly> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=M0pWejAnLUQ
22:23:00 <ghostly> Footrot flats theme song
22:23:00 <ghostly> hehehee
22:23:00 <ghostly> omg remember Samantha Fox
22:23:00 <ghostly> she didnt last long
22:23:00 <nemss> fleetwodd mac
22:23:00 <MrMark> oooer
22:23:00 <nemss> related to sam fox: sabrina
22:23:00 <MrMark> tits!!
22:24:00 <MrMark> Samantha Fox!!!tits!!!page 3!!!!
22:24:00 <nemss> I love girls with english accents
22:24:00 <MrMark> she was a page 3 girl
22:24:00 <MrMark> i love girls with....well any accent bhahahaha
22:24:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:24:00 <ghostly> touch me
22:24:00 <ghostly> touch me
22:24:00 <ghostly> i want to feel your body
22:24:00 <Sunbeam> you wunt drool at the orrible yorkshire accent nemss
22:24:00 <ghostly> lol
22:25:00 <nemss> *shrug* I drool easily
22:25:00 <nemss> lol
22:25:00 <Sunbeam> it's a reyt turn off
22:25:00 <MrMark> i bet Mork is sexy
22:25:00 <MrMark> bhahahaha
22:25:00 <nemss> I sometime have to line my face with tissues to capture all the moisture :(
22:26:00 <Sunbeam> u sweat that much?
22:26:00 <Sunbeam> lol
22:26:00 <ghostly> nemss where are you from?
22:28:00 <ghostly> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfi5i-BErsM
22:28:00 <ghostly> this is one of the only songs i never heard another artist try and sing
22:28:00 <ghostly> lol
22:32:00 <nemss> ghostly: AWESOME
22:32:00 <nemss> I have not heard that song in years
22:32:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:33:00 <ghostly> ya know this was the least requested song in the 90's
22:33:00 <ghostly> lol
22:33:00 <nemss> ghostly I am on the Gold Coast
22:33:00 <ghostly> cool
22:33:00 <ghostly> how old
22:33:00 <ghostly> was curious cause of our common interests
22:35:00 <nemss> 40 this year
22:36:00 <ghostly> ok this is creapy
22:37:00 <ghostly> what month
22:37:00 <nemss> July
22:37:00 <ghostly> same
22:37:00 <ghostly> ok
22:37:00 <nemss> 11th
22:37:00 <ghostly> i'm the 18th
22:37:00 <ghostly> lol
22:37:00 <ghostly> hahaha
22:37:00 <nemss> lol... so close
22:37:00 <ghostly> man we coulda made a mint
22:38:00 <ghostly> the hardest thing I found over the years was finding like minded hard working know their shit programmers
22:38:00 <ghostly> you'de be suprised how many cut-n-paste programmers i've hired over the years
22:38:00 <nemss> mate, if I'd done what I thought of I'd be about as rich as Bill Gates :/
22:38:00 <ghostly> that really had no idea how to debug their own code
22:39:00 <ghostly> hehe
22:39:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:39:00 <ghostly> I've bought and sold companies to get where I am now
22:39:00 <nemss> people who cannot debug code gain no respect (nor time) from me
22:39:00 <ghostly> paid off my houses at age 30
22:39:00 <ghostly> i know
22:39:00 <ghostly> always done more than one business at once
22:39:00 <ghostly> only way to be
22:39:00 <ghostly> hahahaa
22:39:00 <ghostly> :)
22:40:00 <ghostly> its so feaky that we not just the same age just about
22:40:00 <ghostly> but that we did the same kind of paths
22:40:00 <ghostly> same kinda likes
22:40:00 <ghostly> love the gadgets but actually own a shitload
22:40:00 <ghostly> lol
22:40:00 <ghostly> vs most my mates who just dream
22:40:00 <nemss> I got out of programming during the 90s "bubble"
22:40:00 <ghostly> I kept at it
22:40:00 <ghostly> :)
22:40:00 <nemss> shit programmers everywhere, I couldn't stand it
22:41:00 <ghostly> I now run 45 servers with around 11k clients
22:41:00 <ghostly> :)
22:41:00 <ghostly> yeah I agree
22:41:00 <ghostly> most talk it up but can't walk the walk
22:41:00 <ghostly> it's all bum fluff
22:42:00 <ghostly> so many wanna be programmers out there that complete miss the basic fundamentals
22:42:00 <ghostly> i've seen guys forget to terminate a string and then take hours to realise a string is missing a " lol
22:42:00 <ghostly> i seen one guy who spent 2 days trying to debug a sql query
22:43:00 <ghostly> he didn't terinate the $query string
22:43:00 <ghostly> terminate
22:43:00 <ghostly> so it had the sql query then carriage return and 3 lines of code
22:43:00 <ghostly> he kept running the SQL in sqlyog a database admin tool
22:44:00 <ghostly> it didnt dawn on him that there shouldn't be code in the database admin tool
22:44:00 <ghostly> lol
22:44:00 <ghostly> he only highlighted the sql part
22:44:00 <ghostly> took him 6hrs or more of 2 guys labour
22:44:00 <ghostly> to solve it
22:44:00 <ghostly> real n00b stuff
22:44:00 <ghostly> i found that was the biggest waste of time hiring developers who really missed the basic level stuff
22:45:00 <ghostly> or......
22:45:00 <ghostly> loose track of if's
22:45:00 <nemss> I am glad I got out of the programming career
22:45:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:45:00 <nemss> money was ok I guess, but I make more now
22:46:00 <nemss> without having to put up with people who call themselves programmers because they know HTML
22:46:00 <nemss> lol
22:46:00 <ghostly> omg
22:46:00 <ghostly> hahahahaha
22:46:00 <ghostly> I come across lots of them
22:46:00 <ghostly> I had a guy who had JAVA written on his resume
22:47:00 <ghostly> hired him for a m2m job
22:47:00 <ghostly> we were onsite at this factory
22:47:00 <ghostly> working onsite they designed the electronics
22:47:00 <ghostly> we were doing the softare to connect them all to a control centre
22:47:00 <ghostly> this is for the dam controllers
22:47:00 <ghostly> anyway
22:47:00 <ghostly> i kid you not
22:47:00 <ghostly> he started writing vbscript
22:47:00 <ghostly> and im like hey man what are you doing here?
22:48:00 <ghostly> he goes... this is java
22:48:00 <ghostly> im like no man its vbscript not even javascript
22:48:00 <ghostly> lol
22:48:00 <ghostly> I didn't want to look bad infront of the client
22:48:00 <ghostly> cause it was a govt contract
22:48:00 <ghostly> so i just did a flowchart
22:48:00 <ghostly> best place to start
22:48:00 <nemss> this is for Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoOhnrjdYOc
22:49:00 <ghostly> i just dont understand how they can think they're coders
22:49:00 <nemss> they're not
22:49:00 <ghostly> I apply for tenders each week
22:50:00 <ghostly> most of mine I loose due to price
22:50:00 <ghostly> but i'm not going to work for $5/hr like india
22:50:00 <Sunbeam> Goodbye norma Jean, though i never knew you at all
22:50:00 <ghostly> Goodbye english rose version was ok too
22:50:00 <nemss> ffs.. I would not get up in the morning for less than $60/hr LOL
22:50:00 <ghostly> lol
22:50:00 <ghostly> I'm working for less than that at the moment
22:51:00 <ghostly> due to cost of servers
22:51:00 <ghostly> and loosing the big contracts
22:51:00 <ghostly> so i'm building it back up
22:51:00 <ghostly> i've hit a few slumps over the years
22:51:00 <ghostly> the secret is stick to it
22:51:00 <nemss> but you're not getting $5/hr :p
22:51:00 <ghostly> evolve
22:51:00 <ghostly> and you recover
22:51:00 <ghostly> lol
22:51:00 <ghostly> I make about $30/hr at the moment
22:51:00 <ghostly> just whilst its going shit
22:52:00 <ghostly> cost of servers + licences + traffic costs
22:52:00 <ghostly> ads up
22:52:00 <nemss> $30/hr is not bad if you already have stuff (like you seem to)
22:52:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:53:00 <ghostly> just annoying cause both hosted solutions I wrote ended the same time
22:53:00 <ghostly> so i didnt just loose 1 but 2 major revenue sources
22:53:00 <ghostly> so had to lay off staff
22:53:00 <ghostly> I expect 3months
22:53:00 <nemss> to be honest I don't need $60/hr; I could live off $20 easily
22:53:00 <ghostly> and i'll be back ontop
22:53:00 <ghostly> yeah
22:54:00 <MrMark> if i live to see the 7 wonders....ill make a path to the rainbows edge....
22:54:00 <nemss> MrMark, great song!
22:55:00 <MrMark> yes!!
22:55:00 <MrMark> Fleetwood
22:55:00 <ghostly> I marked off something on my bucket list i didnt realise was there....
22:55:00 <ghostly> "perv down a vet nurses top and see her perky firm breasts for a good 3mins without interuptions"
22:55:00 <MrMark> oooer
22:56:00 <ghostly> I didn't realise it was on my list
22:56:00 <ghostly> lol
22:56:00 <nemss> another one for Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9foZ7KVSng
22:56:00 <nemss> maybe I played it before, but I don't care, LOL
22:57:00 <MrMark> she drives me crazy.....and i cant help myslef
22:57:00 <nemss> oooer!
22:57:00 <ghostly> robert palmer?
22:57:00 <MrMark> nope
22:57:00 <nemss> MrMark, FYC?
22:57:00 <MrMark> yep
22:58:00 <MrMark> 90s
22:58:00 <ghostly> btw
22:58:00 <ghostly> http://www.here-and-now.info/
22:58:00 <ghostly> this is the 80's here and now tours
22:58:00 <ghostly> and all the people that goes around
22:58:00 <ghostly> each concert has 6-9 performers
22:58:00 <ghostly> and its 2 songs from each
22:58:00 <ghostly> pretty good
22:58:00 <ghostly> worth the money
22:58:00 <nemss> Do they have free beer?
22:58:00 <ghostly> vip tix includes meet n greets for about $80 ontop of the best seating
22:59:00 <ghostly> free alcahol
22:59:00 <ghostly> at the meet n gret
22:59:00 <nemss> ok, I'm in
22:59:00 <nemss> lol
22:59:00 <ghostly> wine/beer
22:59:00 <MrMark> free alcohol!!!where!!
22:59:00 <ghostly> at the here and now pre dinner meet
22:59:00 <MrMark> mmmmmmmmmmm
22:59:00 <ghostly> the party after you pay for drinks
22:59:00 <nemss> Sunbeam, I don't understand
22:59:00 <Sunbeam> ?
23:00:00 <nemss> A peach?
23:00:00 <Sunbeam> a peach is a fruit
23:00:00 <Sunbeam> like a nectarine
23:00:00 <MrMark> oooer
23:00:00 <Sunbeam> but has a furry skin
23:00:00 <nemss> nice!
23:00:00 <MrMark> does Mork eat fruit
23:00:00 <MrMark> bhahahaha
23:00:00 <Sunbeam> u don't have peaches over there?
23:00:00 <ghostly> I've seen 3 here and now concerts so far
23:00:00 <nemss> yeah, we do
23:00:00 <ghostly> with 3 diff gruops of performers
23:00:00 <ghostly> each 2 years they come to oz
23:01:00 <MrMark> you can go your own way....go your own way
23:01:00 <ghostly> for duran duran
23:01:00 <ghostly> lol
23:01:00 <ghostly> I sat in my car till 3.40am
23:01:00 <nemss> Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIBzbdo2LjU
23:01:00 <ghostly> before duran duran all came out the back doors of the entertainment centre
23:01:00 <ghostly> the drummer came out first
23:02:00 <ghostly> and he bolted
23:02:00 <MrMark> you can go your own way....go your own way!!
23:02:00 <ghostly> but the rest of the guys hung around
23:02:00 <ghostly> its worth meeting them though
23:02:00 <nemss> so, wouldn't it be good?
23:02:00 <nemss> even if it was for only one day
23:03:00 <ghostly> omggggg
23:03:00 <nemss> I don't wanna be here no more
23:03:00 <ghostly> remember this song
23:03:00 <ghostly> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEn6amCRQfI&feature=related
23:03:00 <ghostly> :)
23:03:00 <Sunbeam> wouldn't it be good to be in your shoes...even if it was just for one day
23:03:00 <ghostly> when you've finished that one
23:03:00 <ghostly> hehehehe
23:03:00 <Sunbeam> phworrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
23:03:00 <nemss> you must be joking
23:03:00 <nemss> lol
23:04:00 <Sunbeam> paul young!!!
23:04:00 <MrMark> yes i know it
23:04:00 <nemss> stay outa my shoes!
23:04:00 <Sunbeam> lol
23:04:00 <Sunbeam> what size shoes?
23:04:00 <nemss> about as big as my doodle
23:04:00 <nemss> lol
23:04:00 <Sunbeam> why don't you come back, please hurry come back
23:04:00 <nemss> roflol
23:04:00 <MrMark> baby did a bad bad thing
23:04:00 <Sunbeam> how big's yer doodle?
23:05:00 <nemss> my doodle? hmm. /me measures. 3cm
23:05:00 <lx> ...ah huh...
23:05:00 <Sunbeam> yer know shoe size is a myth dunt yer
23:05:00 <nemss> roflol
23:05:00 <MrMark> baby did a bad bad thing!!!!
23:05:00 <MrMark> cumon!
23:05:00 <nemss> my thumb is about 24 inches long
23:05:00 <Sunbeam> hahaha
23:05:00 <nemss> lol
23:06:00 <Sunbeam> yer nose is growing!
23:06:00 <MrMark> a 24 incher
23:06:00 <Sunbeam> why don't you come back and stay for good this timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
23:06:00 <Sunbeam> next son!g
23:07:00 <nemss> gotta love the comment to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEn6amCRQfI&feature=related ...
23:07:00 <nemss> I'm still listening to this in 1983
23:07:00 <nemss> Hot80s 1 month ago
23:07:00 <nemss> roflol
23:07:00 <Sunbeam> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X_ViIPA-Gc&ob=av2e
23:08:00 <nemss> ok, you played meatloaf
23:08:00 <nemss> great song btw
23:08:00 <Sunbeam> :)
23:08:00 <nemss> can I interrupt it with a better (IMO) version?
23:08:00 <Sunbeam> yes
23:09:00 <nemss> k, dunno if this is the best version out there, but it shows his (and her, and his daugther's) talent
23:09:00 <nemss> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6npYyg_BjTU
23:10:00 <nemss> brilliant singer
23:10:00 <Sunbeam> i've seen Meat Loaf in concert 4 times
23:10:00 <Sunbeam> :D
23:11:00 <nemss> he doesn't take himself too seriously
23:11:00 <nemss> which is awesome
23:11:00 <Sunbeam> he's awesome
23:11:00 <nemss> so are you
23:11:00 <Sunbeam> he can be my sugar daddy anytime lol
23:12:00 <Sunbeam> i think he sings shit live
23:12:00 <nemss> but i won't do that!
23:12:00 <Sunbeam> but he certainly knows how to entertain
23:12:00 <nemss> nah, his live singing is great
23:13:00 <nemss> you're right about the entertaining bit though
23:13:00 <Sunbeam> at each concert it was 3 hours of solid Meat
23:13:00 <Sunbeam> he even came out in the crowd
23:13:00 <nemss> 3 hours of solid meat and I'd wanna be very pissed or stoned
23:13:00 <nemss> lol
23:14:00 <Sunbeam> he was 2 rows from me n my mate.......we were doing our best to try get him closer
23:14:00 <MrMark> mmmmmmmmmmm
23:14:00 <MrMark> Mork!!
23:14:00 <nemss> you should have taken off your clothes
23:14:00 <Sunbeam> we wanted to mop his sweaty brow for him lmao
23:14:00 <nemss> his daugther is a DAMN babe
23:14:00 <nemss> (in that clip)
23:14:00 <Sunbeam> bugga ...if we'd done that we'd have cleared the arena
23:15:00 <Sunbeam> it wasn't this one she starred in
23:15:00 <Sunbeam> she starred in i'd lie for you and that's the truth
23:15:00 <nemss> aww she's a star in whatever she's in ;)
23:17:00 <nemss> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qU2nCgQGVo
23:17:00 <Sunbeam> Mrs Loud who is singing in this now
23:17:00 <Sunbeam> she was performing in a club near here....my brother took loads of photo's of her gig ...and i emailed em to her a few months ago
23:19:00 <nemss> I wanna kiss Sunbeam but her lips are venemous poison
23:19:00 <Sunbeam> http://mrsloud.com/
23:19:00 <Sunbeam> that's her
23:19:00 <nemss> one look
23:19:00 <nemss> could kill
23:20:00 <Sunbeam> lol
23:20:00 <MrMark> my skin is sexy and silky smooth
23:20:00 <nemss> yep and mrsloud is hot
23:21:00 <nemss> lol
23:21:00 <Sunbeam> next song
23:21:00 <Sunbeam> i am supposed to be having a date with my steamy friend.....(iron)
23:21:00 <nemss> ok, another one for you Sunbeam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxfjSnMN88U
23:22:00 <MrMark> it is!!
23:22:00 <MrMark> silky smooth!!
23:22:00 <Sunbeam> get yer hands off it MrMark lol
23:22:00 <MrMark> ehehehe
23:22:00 <nemss> anyway, what ya gonna do about it?
23:22:00 <Sunbeam> one handed typist hey?
23:23:00 <ghostly> keeps a box beside his screen
23:23:00 <ghostly> :)
23:23:00 <Sunbeam> tissues?
23:23:00 <Sunbeam> lol
23:25:00 <nemss> I can't do anything 'cept be in love with you
23:25:00 <ghostly> awwwwww
23:25:00 <ghostly> how sweet
23:25:00 <ghostly> but i'm not gay sorry
23:26:00 <nemss> roflol
23:26:00 <ghostly> omg.... omg.....
23:26:00 <ghostly> there's a dude from another chan
23:26:00 <ghostly> thinks i'm a girl
23:26:00 <ghostly> and keeps trying to cyber me daily
23:26:00 <ghostly> lol
23:26:00 <ghostly> he seriously thinks i keep saying i'm a dude as a way of getting rid of him if i was a girl
23:26:00 <nemss> just cyber him then
23:27:00 <nemss> what;s it matter?
23:27:00 <nemss> lol
23:27:00 <Sunbeam> grab yer coat ghostly ...you've pulled lol
23:30:00 <Mars> `op
23:30:00 <Sunbeam> hiya Mars huggggs :)
23:30:00 <Mars> hugggs Sunbeam :)
23:30:00 <nemss> hey Sunbeam... wanna dance on the desk
23:30:00 <Sunbeam> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwun83po2u4
23:31:00 <Sunbeam> sure nemss ...make sure i dunt fall off tho lol
23:31:00 <ghostly> :)
23:31:00 <Mars> is MrMark here
23:31:00 <Sunbeam> he was
23:31:00 <nemss> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGGCRHRW8cs
23:32:00 <Sunbeam> i'll finish listening to mine first
23:32:00 <Mars> i just goit home from the movies....saw the avengers and it was a great fun movie
23:33:00 <Sunbeam> i have the year of the flood dvd.......might watch it later when i iron :)
23:33:00 <Sunbeam> u go alone Mars?
23:33:00 <Mars> i neva go alone :P
23:33:00 <MrMark> im here Mars!!
23:33:00 <nemss> I haven't been to the movies since... hmm... LOTR fellowship of the ring
23:33:00 <lx> ...ah huh...
23:34:00 <Mars> hehe
23:34:00 <nemss> interesting song Sunbeam!
23:34:00 <MrMark> your like voodooo hunney!!
23:35:00 <Sunbeam> been a few years since i went to movies
23:35:00 <Sunbeam> scotlands football anthem lol
23:36:00 <MrMark> im still awake!!!
23:36:00 <nemss> I'll take the low
23:36:00 <Sunbeam> :))
23:37:00 <Sunbeam> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybR0F9wdpL8
23:37:00 <Sunbeam> prefer their version to Rod Stewarts
23:38:00 <MrMark> awesome!!
23:39:00 <nemss> nah, need some real scottish music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wvapr8WvBs
23:39:00 <nemss> ROFLOL
23:40:00 <Sunbeam> :P
23:41:00 <nemss> just be honest
23:41:00 <Mars> i love roses
23:41:00 <Sunbeam> i don't like roses
23:41:00 <MrMark> George Michael is soo sexy spunk
23:42:00 <Sunbeam> i love daffodils.......or carnations
23:42:00 <MrMark> sex in public toilets
23:42:00 <MrMark> bhahahaha
23:42:00 <Sunbeam> but ty for the sweet thought ;)
23:42:00 <nemss> lol
23:43:00 <nemss> fsck why did I play this song? It's dreary
23:44:00 <Sunbeam> yes it is
23:44:00 <nemss> now, HERE is a babe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jxhvQcvZi4
23:44:00 <Sunbeam> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrTC2ROEYqQ
23:45:00 <MrMark> girl youve got to break these chains around my heart
23:50:00 <nemss> ok, call me old, gay, or whatever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17dP0QvjsOU
23:50:00 <Sunbeam> lol i remember that well
23:51:00 <MrMark> saucy