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00:00:00 <doggyrat> transfer protocols are independent of the OS , it should not make any difference , but may be using a printer driver the selection of the connection port is important
00:00:00 <doggyrat> as printing commands for each printer do differ
00:01:00 <doggyrat> that is what i think as a high noob
00:01:00 <doggyrat> i will be off for my nap
02:54:00 <o_> parallel is 8 data lines and an earth
02:54:00 <o_> serial is one data line and an earth
02:54:00 <o_> USB is serial, plus 2 power wires
02:56:00 <o_> translating from serial to parallel is as simple as taking each 8 bits and sending each bit separately into its parallel wire
02:56:00 <o_> doesn't need a CPU, but does need some sort of active electronics
02:57:00 <o_> that's what the adapters do
07:36:00 <doggyrat> hello
09:35:00 <electrohead> yooo
14:20:24 Topic Is: Welcome to #sydney
14:20:24 Set By: (electrohead) on: Sun Jul 10 01:13:40 2022
14:20:24 <doggyrat> to prevent the ink drying in printer head
14:20:24 <XYZ> yes, mine is old, without it and i have another one much older portable with battery, but it doesnt work anymore, only with adapter. Refilling ink is a good thing... it's a lot cheaper. Original cartridge is hard to get. I once bought an expired and dried out...
14:20:24 <XYZ> I used that portable at school, and at work too. Nowadays everyone have printer and i have no use for her anymore...
14:20:24 <doggyrat> refilling the cartridge does not work unlimited the spoon will not support more than 3 or 4 time of refilling
14:20:24 <doggyrat> a portable printer is great to have, what is wrong with it, does it still print, most of them are thermal printers
14:20:24 <XYZ> Neighbour had photo-ink printer. If you prints photos you need large amount of ink, then large tanks are good. On that type was chip, but some of them you can reset. This type of printer clean nozzles every time you turn it on... so its a good idea to leave it on all the time. After about five turns-on, cartridges are empty. Thats whats wrong with her. In addition, it has a separate cartridge for each colour... good for print quality and bad for the
14:20:24 <XYZ> wallet :-/ That portable is parallel too, and unsupported. I tried usb-parallel converter but it doesnt work. Newer ones are thermal, this one is ink-jet from early 90s.
14:20:24 <doggyrat> the adapter need to have a kind of controller and storage, but i am not an expert
14:20:24 <XYZ> Maybe ill try again with a different converter, ive heard that some may not work... its long time ago i tried it.
14:20:24 <doggyrat> usb is using two wires for data sequence transfer, i have no clue how many data wires parallel is using
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14:20:24 <doggyrat> hello TwistedBlister42 you are late
14:20:24 <doggyrat> it is almost my nap time :P
14:20:24 <doggyrat> how are you
14:20:24 <TwistedBlister42> im good yeh went out for a bit
14:20:24 <doggyrat> are you preferring to enjoy life instead of chatting with me :P
14:20:24 <TwistedBlister42> i took my mother out for dinner
14:20:24 <TwistedBlister42> if thats what you call enjoying life...
14:20:24 <XYZ> TwistedBlister42: hello
14:20:24 <TwistedBlister42> hey XYZ
14:20:24 <XYZ> doggyrat: Problem is on software side, i borrow different one and try it again, but dont know when it happens...
14:20:24 <doggyrat> XYZ: i just looked up the connectors of the LPT port it is using different pins for some tasks, therefor you need a cpu converting the usb signals to a parallel connector
14:20:24 <doggyrat> but i am not sure about that
14:20:24 <doggyrat> even to convert an analog signal to digital video signal you need a cpu to do that job
14:20:24 <doggyrat> i learned the hard way , because i am a retard :(
14:20:24 <XYZ> doggyrat: youre right, but on box on cable there isnt any info about it... but i have linux :-) With command lsusb i can identify it...
14:20:24 <XYZ> doggyrat: its this Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1a86:7584 QinHeng Electronics CH340S now i can find much more info about it...
14:20:24 <XYZ> doggyrat: it should be work from 2.6, so its should be ok...
14:20:24 <XYZ> doggyrat: i had windows before
14:20:24 <doggyrat> transfer protocols are independent of the OS , it should not make any difference , but may be using a printer driver the selection of the connection port is important
14:20:24 <doggyrat> as printing commands for each printer do differ
14:20:24 <doggyrat> that is what i think as a high noob
14:20:24 <doggyrat> i will be off for my nap
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14:20:24 <o_> parallel is 8 data lines and an earth
14:20:24 <o_> serial is one data line and an earth
14:20:24 <o_> USB is serial, plus 2 power wires
14:20:24 <o_> translating from serial to parallel is as simple as taking each 8 bits and sending each bit separately into its parallel wire
14:20:24 <o_> doesn't need a CPU, but does need some sort of active electronics
14:20:24 <o_> that's what the adapters do
14:20:24 <Glenn> +o_ ...really?
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14:20:24 <doggyrat> hello
14:20:24 <electrohead> yooo
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19:46:00 <doggyrat> hello
19:46:13 <doggyrat> hello
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20:41:42 <doggyrat> o/
20:42:00 <doggyrat> o/
20:43:00 <TwistedBlister42> hey
20:43:12 <TwistedBlister42> hey
20:58:49 <doggyrat> hello TwistedBlister42 how are you
20:59:00 <doggyrat> hello TwistedBlister42 how are you
20:59:00 <TwistedBlister42> tiredish you
20:59:27 <TwistedBlister42> tiredish you
20:59:58 <doggyrat> i am working on my project again and manage to reduce the size of the mounting frame, going to show it to a air soft shop in the city
21:00:00 <doggyrat> i am working on my project again and manage to reduce the size of the mounting frame, going to show it to a air soft shop in the city
21:00:00 <TwistedBlister42> nice
21:00:31 <TwistedBlister42> nice
21:00:46 <doggyrat> i am about to take my shower and leave for the city
21:01:00 <doggyrat> i am about to take my shower and leave for the city
21:01:40 <TwistedBlister42> yeah
21:02:00 <TwistedBlister42> yeah
21:03:53 <doggyrat> it will bring me in a better mood going out for windows watching in the city . can not afford doing any shopping.
21:04:00 <doggyrat> it will bring me in a better mood going out for windows watching in the city . can not afford doing any shopping.
21:04:47 <doggyrat> we need to safe some money for the next heating invoice
21:05:00 <doggyrat> we need to safe some money for the next heating invoice
21:08:00 <doggyrat> hello
21:14:57 <doggyrat> i will be online again later in may be 3 hours
21:15:00 <doggyrat> i will be online again later in may be 3 hours
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21:21:00 <Zade> ta
21:39:00 <doggyrat> hello Zade
21:40:00 <Zade> hello doggyrat
21:40:00 <doggyrat> how are you
21:40:00 <Zade> good ta
21:40:00 <Zade> yourself?
21:40:00 <Zade> finally its warming up
21:42:00 <doggyrat> today there is a Christmas party in the men shed ( maker space ) , but i have to work and as i am not very welcome there i will not go
21:43:00 <Zade> how come you are not welcome? I thought mens sheds took everyone
21:43:00 <doggyrat> here it is getting colder every day, wintertime
21:43:00 <Zade> i had to go to the country today, it was 29, on sunday spose to be 33
21:44:00 <doggyrat> i do have problems interacting with people, that is why i am excluded from any official events having non members too
21:45:00 <Zade> oh ok
21:51:00 <doggyrat> i am the black sheep
21:52:00 <Zade> i guess someone has to be...
21:53:00 <Zade> what do you do for xmas?
21:53:00 <doggyrat> i did expect my friend from Munich (200 km away) to visit the Christmas market but he as got a flu and cancelled the visit
21:54:00 <doggyrat> i am not very related to xmas
21:54:00 <Zade> oh ok
21:54:00 <Zade> me either
21:56:00 <doggyrat> i will have some days off work and still do not know if i get a prolongation of my limited contract
21:57:00 <Zade> i will go out clubbing xmas eve
22:01:00 <doggyrat> are you staying in Australia
22:01:00 <doggyrat> hello XYZ
22:01:00 <Zade> yep
22:02:00 <XYZ> doggyrat: hello there
22:02:00 <doggyrat> XYZ: how are you
22:03:00 <Zade> xmas day i will have a hangover, my neighbour is an old jewish lady so she cooks so i will hang out at hers for a bit
22:03:00 <doggyrat> Zade: i guess there are many good clubs in Australia
22:04:00 <Zade> melb has a lot
22:04:00 <Zade> sydney also has quite a few
22:08:00 <doggyrat> Zade: are you doing city hopping :)
22:10:00 <Zade> nuh, but i have lived in Brisbane, sydney and now melbourne
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22:12:00 <XYZ> doggyrat: im ok, going to cook something, im little bit hungry... whats new, your printer works?
22:15:00 <doggyrat> yes , i managed to crimp the new plugs, after a few failures
22:21:00 <XYZ> good... i also fixed my old 2D printer :-) ink was dry, but i use it once, twice in year. Much newer laser one substituted it long time ago...
22:40:00 <doggyrat> XYZ: if you do not print much , a laser printer would be more suitable , because no ink will dry and ruin the printer head
22:45:00 <XYZ> doggyrat: Yes, exactly. It takes lot of time to print something and it needs old para cable, so on new pc i dont have it... Ink is more expensive too. Laser printers are very cheap these days. But i print very little. Today some people told me about snowing, but here still nothing.
22:49:00 <doggyrat> there are new ink printers with a big ink reservoir that could be refilled like a glas, but those are more expensive in acquisition
22:50:00 <doggyrat> i do have an old brother ink printer that still has cartridges without chip and a much bigger infill amount than most other cartridges
22:52:00 <doggyrat> my ink dealer does sell each cartridge for about 14 euro that makes about 56 euro for a full set that does last me more than a few years as i do not print that much
22:53:00 <doggyrat> but i need to print once every week
22:53:00 <doggyrat> to prevent the ink drying in printer head
22:59:00 <XYZ> yes, mine is old, without it and i have another one much older portable with battery, but it doesnt work anymore, only with adapter. Refilling ink is a good thing... it's a lot cheaper. Original cartridge is hard to get. I once bought an expired and dried out...
23:02:00 <XYZ> I used that portable at school, and at work too. Nowadays everyone have printer and i have no use for her anymore...
23:05:00 <doggyrat> refilling the cartridge does not work unlimited the spoon will not support more than 3 or 4 time of refilling
23:10:00 <doggyrat> a portable printer is great to have, what is wrong with it, does it still print, most of them are thermal printers
23:19:00 <XYZ> Neighbour had photo-ink printer. If you prints photos you need large amount of ink, then large tanks are good. On that type was chip, but some of them you can reset. This type of printer clean nozzles every time you turn it on... so its a good idea to leave it on all the time. After about five turns-on, cartridges are empty. Thats whats wrong with her. In addition, it has a separate cartridge for each colour... good for print quality and bad for the
23:19:00 <XYZ> wallet :-/ That portable is parallel too, and unsupported. I tried usb-parallel converter but it doesnt work. Newer ones are thermal, this one is ink-jet from early 90s.
23:23:00 <doggyrat> the adapter need to have a kind of controller and storage, but i am not an expert
23:27:00 <XYZ> Maybe ill try again with a different converter, ive heard that some may not work... its long time ago i tried it.
23:31:00 <doggyrat> usb is using two wires for data sequence transfer, i have no clue how many data wires parallel is using
23:36:00 <doggyrat> hello TwistedBlister42 you are late
23:37:00 <doggyrat> it is almost my nap time :P
23:37:00 <doggyrat> how are you
23:38:00 <TwistedBlister42> im good yeh went out for a bit
23:38:00 <doggyrat> are you preferring to enjoy life instead of chatting with me :P
23:41:00 <TwistedBlister42> i took my mother out for dinner
23:41:00 <TwistedBlister42> if thats what you call enjoying life...
23:42:00 <XYZ> TwistedBlister42: hello
23:43:00 <TwistedBlister42> hey XYZ
23:43:00 <XYZ> doggyrat: Problem is on software side, i borrow different one and try it again, but dont know when it happens...
23:46:00 <doggyrat> XYZ: i just looked up the connectors of the LPT port it is using different pins for some tasks, therefor you need a cpu converting the usb signals to a parallel connector
23:49:00 <doggyrat> but i am not sure about that
23:50:00 <doggyrat> even to convert an analog signal to digital video signal you need a cpu to do that job
23:51:00 <doggyrat> i learned the hard way , because i am a retard :(
23:54:00 <XYZ> doggyrat: youre right, but on box on cable there isnt any info about it... but i have linux :-) With command lsusb i can identify it...
23:54:00 <XYZ> doggyrat: its this Bus 005 Device 002: ID 1a86:7584 QinHeng Electronics CH340S now i can find much more info about it...
23:56:00 <XYZ> doggyrat: it should be work from 2.6, so its should be ok...
23:57:00 <XYZ> doggyrat: i had windows before
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