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01:36:00 <TiTuS> man so tired
01:37:00 <Glenn> Yeah... know the feeling...
01:48:00 <Glenn> Gotta go ppl's... have a good night y'all!
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16:15:00 <David-De-Elcean> hey corine
16:16:00 <[-saKura-]> hie dave
16:16:00 <[-saKura-]> clay
16:16:00 <[-saKura-]> :(
16:16:00 <[-saKura-]> i cant study
16:16:00 <David-De-Elcean> er
16:16:00 <David-De-Elcean> what do you mean?
16:16:00 <David-De-Elcean> ur in KL
16:16:00 <David-De-Elcean> u don't have summer school now do ya?
16:17:00 <[-saKura-]> no
16:17:00 <[-saKura-]> i got a java certification exam to sit for tats all
16:17:00 <Johnny_> is it sun solaris ?
16:17:00 <David-De-Elcean> oh
16:18:00 <[-saKura-]> yea
16:18:00 <[-saKura-]> damn
16:18:00 <Johnny_> cools!
16:18:00 <Johnny_> microsoft have their own yeah but its not highly sought after
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16:19:00 <[-saKura-]> mcse is too difficult for me
16:19:00 <[-saKura-]> ill do the java one first
16:20:00 <[-saKura-]> there's 13 papers in msce
16:20:00 <Johnny_> noo i mean MCSD...they have programming languages in it
16:20:00 <[-saKura-]> if i pass all, they will invite me to US as an engineer
16:20:00 <[-saKura-]> oh, thats not really popular
16:20:00 <Johnny_> MCSE mainly networking.... 7 papers
16:20:00 <[-saKura-]> total 13 papers as a reconized MS engineer
16:21:00 <Johnny_> MCSE is a load of shit i reckon...hehhehe over rated
16:21:00 <[-saKura-]> its not
16:21:00 <[-saKura-]> u try just one paper
16:21:00 <Johnny_> huh ? there's only 7 subjects needed for mcse in win2k
16:21:00 <[-saKura-]> u would feel like u're so stupid that u would want to dig a hole and go into it
16:21:00 <[-saKura-]> im talking abt the whole thing
16:21:00 <[-saKura-]> not just for miscelaneous stuff
16:22:00 <Johnny_> i finished mcse 2 yrs ago corey!
16:22:00 <Johnny_> nahhhhh they got more than 30 different papers for mcse
16:22:00 <Johnny_> u only need 7...for the win2k stream
16:23:00 <[-saKura-]> argh
16:23:00 <[-saKura-]> im talking abt the certification for mcse engineer
16:23:00 <[-saKura-]> i work at microsoft johnny
16:23:00 <Johnny_> i know u do! :P
16:23:00 <[-saKura-]> we're all required to take the 13 papers to be engineer
16:23:00 <[-saKura-]> lolz
16:23:00 <Johnny_> paper = exam ?
16:23:00 <[-saKura-]> yea
16:24:00 <Johnny_> eg. professional, server, design active, imp active, design n/w, imp network
16:24:00 <Johnny_> + 1 more elective
16:24:00 <[-saKura-]> yeah
16:24:00 <[-saKura-]> it sucks
16:24:00 <[-saKura-]> i hate it
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16:24:00 <Johnny_> dats only 7..... how come u need 6 more ?
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16:25:00 <[-saKura-]> i dunno
16:25:00 <[-saKura-]> i havent like enq abt it b4
16:26:00 <[-saKura-]> but i know there's 13
16:26:00 <[-saKura-]> coz my cousin did it
16:26:00 <Johnny_> and i thought u worked there :P
16:26:00 <Johnny_> nahhh basic mcse..only needs 7
16:26:00 <[-saKura-]> kkekeke
16:26:00 <Johnny_> mcse+i needs 2 or 3 more i think...dats 10
16:26:00 <[-saKura-]> i dont think they need just the basic
16:26:00 <[-saKura-]> :)
16:26:00 <[-saKura-]> realli?
16:26:00 <[-saKura-]> hmmm..im not sure
16:26:00 <Glenn_bbs> ...ah huh...
16:26:00 <[-saKura-]> ill go ask my manager tmr
16:27:00 <Johnny_> u can do all the subjects hell do all the 30 subs and dat still be mcse
16:27:00 <[-saKura-]> haha
16:27:00 <Johnny_> almost everyone just does the core + 1 or 2 electives..... 14...dats too crazy
16:27:00 <[-saKura-]> u do 30, bill gates will invite u over for dinner
16:27:00 <Johnny_> too expensive for ur company too :)
16:27:00 <[-saKura-]> it seriously is 13
16:27:00 <[-saKura-]> no
16:27:00 <[-saKura-]> we do it for free
16:28:00 <Johnny_> u can do it then :P
16:28:00 <Johnny_> alotta subjects not sought after though
16:28:00 <[-saKura-]> lol
16:28:00 <[-saKura-]> i think the 13 must have a purpose
16:28:00 <[-saKura-]> i got a collugue doing one paper today
16:28:00 <[-saKura-]> poor dude
16:28:00 <Johnny_> depends which stream u choose
16:28:00 <[-saKura-]> he's freezin
16:28:00 <Johnny_> if u just want networking.... then stick to 7
16:29:00 <Johnny_> if u want database management...they got their own core
16:29:00 <Johnny_> if u want developers...they got their own core too
16:29:00 <[-saKura-]> lol
16:29:00 <[-saKura-]> yeah i know
16:29:00 <[-saKura-]> but i dont know much abt the papers
16:29:00 <[-saKura-]> coz im not in that dept
16:30:00 <Johnny_> yeah aiight...well i reckon mcse is nothing compared to ccie anyways...kekekeke
16:30:00 <[-saKura-]> wats ccie?
16:30:00 <Johnny_> cisco
16:30:00 <Johnny_> ccna, ccnp, ccie
16:30:00 <[-saKura-]> ats that?
16:31:00 <Johnny_> u havent heard of it ?! ohh okay u prolly not in the networking field then
16:31:00 <[-saKura-]> yeah
16:31:00 <[-saKura-]> im not
16:31:00 <[-saKura-]> lol
16:31:00 <Johnny_> maybe dats why mcse is hard to u..hehe
16:32:00 <[-saKura-]> hehe
16:32:00 <[-saKura-]> well, thats what all the engineers say
16:32:00 <[-saKura-]> they took years to do all 13 papers
16:32:00 <[-saKura-]> lol
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16:32:00 <Johnny_> cant be ? coz the subjects expire approximately 2 yrs
16:33:00 <[-saKura-]> lol
16:33:00 <[-saKura-]> no
16:33:00 <[-saKura-]> i dunno how it works, but i see them taking paper after paper with tears
16:33:00 <Johnny_> i think i know what ur friend means..... 6 papers for winNT 4.0 mcse...then another 7..for win2k mcse...
16:33:00 <Johnny_> its upgrading
16:33:00 <[-saKura-]> hahaha
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16:34:00 <[-saKura-]> lol
16:35:00 <[-saKura-]> maybe
16:35:00 <[-saKura-]> i never asked
16:35:00 <[-saKura-]> coz im taking the sun paper
16:35:00 <[-saKura-]> lol
16:35:00 <Johnny_> yaya i would too if given the chance.... sun solaris sys admin!
16:35:00 <[-saKura-]> When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ballpoint pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat the problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 Billion to develop a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to 300�C.
16:36:00 <[-saKura-]> The Russians used a pencil.
16:36:00 <[-saKura-]> read that
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16:41:00 <[-saKura-]> do u get it
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19:34:00 <William> hi Jackie^Cheung
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19:34:00 <William> heya Glenn?
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19:34:00 <Jackie^Cheung> William?
19:34:00 <William> wassup?
19:35:00 <Jackie^Cheung> noth`n much... just stirring the Honky's... :))
19:35:00 <William> ahhh righteo
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