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16:57:42 <^bozoJim> hello Devil45
16:58:08 <Devil45> the cool jim has arrived. - get the teddy bears ready.
16:58:24 <^bozoJim> lol
16:58:33 <^bozoJim> I am amking a lap quilt atm
16:58:46 <^bozoJim> and I have a couple of teddy bears designed to hand make
16:59:01 <^bozoJim> as I am going to do a solo exibition next year
17:00:22 <Devil45> cool
17:02:38 <^bozoJim> It will be teddys, quilting, some ceramics and some woodwork
17:02:43 <^bozoJim> a tactile experience
17:05:34 <Devil45> furry bears?
17:05:49 <Devil45> or bright coloured plush teddys?
17:06:14 * Devil45 imagines a teddy being bright orange or perhaps a light beige
17:06:36 <^bozoJim> mohair fur
17:08:45 <Devil45> nice
17:08:56 <Devil45> sort of like that fur you find on coats
17:09:07 <Devil45> its flat but soft
17:09:10 <^bozoJim> yes
17:09:24 <^bozoJim> moahir is what teddys have been made from for years
17:09:31 <^bozoJim> before the synthetic materials
17:09:59 <Devil45> the chinese made ones
17:10:06 <Devil45> use a polyester material
17:10:10 <Devil45> its like fur but it isnt
17:12:01 <^bozoJim> yes
17:13:35 <Devil45> got a blue one. had him for over 20 years. was given to me under special circumstances.
17:13:47 <^bozoJim> https://i.imgur.com/d0EjC1d.jpg
17:13:56 <^bozoJim> that is a german mohair one
17:13:58 <Devil45> actually 25 years
17:14:05 <^bozoJim> I made Kezzie a purple one
17:14:11 <Devil45> yup kez still has that i think
17:14:17 <^bozoJim> yes she does
17:14:22 <Devil45> it came from jim - so it must be good
17:14:45 <Devil45> fluffy bear
17:14:47 <^bozoJim> that teddy I posted the url to is no longer around
17:15:11 <Devil45> someone buy him?
17:15:12 <^bozoJim> I gave it to a dear friend who was struggling so her dog got desexed and she gave it to her to play with
17:15:19 <^bozoJim> her dog destroyed it
17:15:31 <Devil45> never give dogs teddy bears
17:15:40 <Devil45> they will assume its another animal and attack it
17:15:41 <^bozoJim> and she wants me to replace it
17:15:50 <Devil45> if it was me id tell her no
17:15:51 <^bozoJim> It was a $170 bear
17:15:58 <^bozoJim> I did tell her NO
17:16:07 <Devil45> her dog shouldnt have had the other one
17:16:13 <^bozoJim> she claims it is not the dogs fault I said
17:16:25 <^bozoJim> no yours you know it was ripping things apart
17:16:26 <Devil45> its not the dogs fault
17:16:42 <Devil45> because the responsibility falls on the owner of the dog
17:16:47 <^bozoJim> yes
17:16:50 <Devil45> who gave the bear to the animal
17:17:14 <^bozoJim> she did
17:17:16 <Devil45> you cant blame a dog for what they do. the owner is silly enough to allow them to destroy stuff. its their fault.
17:17:23 <^bozoJim> thats it
17:17:28 * Devil45 learned this
17:17:29 <^bozoJim> and I am not making ehr another
17:17:32 <Devil45> from experience
17:17:45 <^bozoJim> the dog would get it again
17:17:51 <Devil45> and watching judge judy where litigants sue for damage someones dog did. not the dogs fault its the owners
17:18:06 <^bozoJim> yes
17:18:18 <Devil45> if she didnt have a dog - different story
17:18:30 <Devil45> you wouldnt give bart a fluffy bear
17:18:40 <^bozoJim> he has one I made
17:18:41 <Devil45> you might give him a bone
17:18:43 <Devil45> or
17:18:50 <^bozoJim> still in tact after 5 years
17:18:51 <Devil45> one made from different material
17:19:02 <^bozoJim> he is not a biter
17:19:03 <Devil45> which is less threatening
17:19:08 <^bozoJim> he loves it
17:19:14 <^bozoJim> as it has my scent over uit
17:19:21 <Devil45> that woman
17:19:28 <^bozoJim> he is not into bones and does not chew
17:19:38 <Devil45> shouldnt have a dog
17:19:49 <Devil45> i suppose shes one of those who lets her dog loose
17:19:56 <^bozoJim> it is one of those american pit bull things
17:20:06 <Devil45> that breed should be banned
17:20:18 <^bozoJim> and one day went for me
17:20:26 <Devil45> as i say
17:20:26 <^bozoJim> so it learned fast dont try it dog
17:20:36 <^bozoJim> my size 15 shoe has some power behind it
17:20:43 <Devil45> you kicked the dog?
17:20:49 <^bozoJim> nope
17:20:50 <Devil45> or nudged him off?
17:20:58 <^bozoJim> nudged her off
17:21:13 <^bozoJim> side of showe to her side and push
17:21:15 <Devil45> easier to nudge a pit
17:21:22 <Devil45> be like 'oi'
17:21:35 <^bozoJim> was not responding to normal commands
17:21:39 <Devil45> rather than booting em up the bum which some deserve if they try to attack
17:21:49 <^bozoJim> I did not kick it or make hard xcontact
17:21:54 <Devil45> nah you couldnt
17:21:58 <Devil45> owner would sue
17:22:02 <^bozoJim> yes
17:22:06 <Devil45> be like 'he kicked my dog'
17:22:10 <^bozoJim> so agaist side and push away
17:22:11 <Devil45> and try to win
17:22:17 <Devil45> but if its a nudge
17:22:20 <Devil45> no harm done
17:22:24 <^bozoJim> nope
17:22:39 <^bozoJim> and was on her rope came charging at me and ran out of rope
17:22:46 <^bozoJim> love those self corrections
17:22:47 <Devil45> owned by rope length
17:22:49 <Devil45> :D
17:22:54 <^bozoJim> yes
17:23:03 <Devil45> shame the dog ate the bear
17:23:09 <^bozoJim> I know\
17:23:20 <^bozoJim> I took a pic of it as it was a good bear
17:23:35 <Devil45> i watched a whole bunch of dog rescue vids on youtube where the dogs are scared, hungry, cold, and unsure of being helped.
17:23:44 <Devil45> never saw any vicious ones
17:23:53 <^bozoJim> not a lot around
17:24:01 <^bozoJim> I know bart is liked in town
17:24:12 <^bozoJim> and the places I go for groups give him treats
17:24:18 <^bozoJim> dog biscuits ect
17:24:22 <Devil45> hes spoiled
17:24:23 <^bozoJim> they know they can
17:24:25 <^bozoJim> he is
17:24:34 <^bozoJim> and is still spot on with weight
17:24:35 <Devil45> but hes not just a guide dog
17:24:38 <^bozoJim> and wants to work
17:24:49 <Devil45> or service dog
17:24:51 <^bozoJim> no he is a support worker dog as well
17:24:51 <Devil45> hes a friend
17:24:59 <^bozoJim> and when not in harness a dog
17:25:15 <Devil45> hes trained for this
17:25:19 <^bozoJim> yes
17:25:24 <Devil45> doesnt want to forget what he knows
17:25:24 <^bozoJim> and he is almost 11
17:25:32 <Devil45> hes a senior
17:25:35 <^bozoJim> oldest wotrkign guide dog in aust
17:25:43 <Devil45> senior dog
17:25:47 <^bozoJim> and shows no sign of slowing down
17:25:54 <Devil45> they call dogs over 10 years old 'seniors'
17:25:59 <^bozoJim> yes
17:26:19 <Devil45> typically the lifespan is roughly 20 years for a dog (subject to debate)
17:26:22 <^bozoJim> no arthritis
17:26:37 <^bozoJim> and he looks 6 I am told
17:26:42 <^bozoJim> acts like a pup
17:27:21 <^bozoJim> https://i.imgur.com/3YohVEy.jpg
17:27:22 <Devil45> that bear is pretty decent. may it r.i.p.
17:27:30 <^bozoJim> there si Bart christmas eve last year
17:28:05 <Devil45> he looks ready to celebrate
17:28:12 <^bozoJim> he was
17:28:27 <^bozoJim> we were about to get in the float for the christmas parade in town
17:28:44 <Devil45> i dont know any dog who doesnt enjoy float rides
17:28:50 <Devil45> except maybe chihuahuas
17:29:03 <Devil45> because being so small they get scared
17:29:20 <^bozoJim> yes
17:29:26 <Devil45> barts a big boy.
17:29:44 <^bozoJim> and I made a tavle cloth for the table at the back of the trailer
17:30:15 <^bozoJim> I was told christmas eve mornign I had to do it
17:30:28 <^bozoJim> nice warning I had 7 hours to make
17:30:30 <^bozoJim> so
17:30:45 <Devil45> short notice
17:31:00 <^bozoJim> I got some calico I had here and took it with a large bag of fabric and my laptop and sewing bag down teh shed
17:31:02 <^bozoJim> yes
17:31:06 <^bozoJim> and I made it
17:31:20 <^bozoJim> shed logo with outr name lettered with it
17:31:27 <^bozoJim> on both sides
17:31:43 <Devil45> i thought you got kicked out of the mens shed
17:31:47 <Devil45> by the crying guy
17:31:50 <^bozoJim> had to print cut out iron on, sew and make sure it was right
17:31:54 <Devil45> who reported you to his mum
17:31:57 <^bozoJim> was a huge job
17:32:09 <^bozoJim> I got kicked out early feb this year
17:32:10 <Devil45> im still mad as hell about that. the fact they took his mums side.
17:32:20 <^bozoJim> yes
17:32:28 <Devil45> he wins you lose. thats hardly fair.
17:32:32 <^bozoJim> we have had anotehr 6 kicked out his mother ordered
17:32:45 <Devil45> who died and put his mother in charge?
17:32:54 <Devil45> since when did she become the boss?
17:32:59 <^bozoJim> his mother gets the police to side with her
17:33:05 <Devil45> something wrong with her
17:33:11 <^bozoJim> her son is retarded and people make him cry and yell at him
17:33:12 <Devil45> she has too much free time
17:33:18 <Devil45> she sounds retarded to me
17:33:26 <^bozoJim> she should be in care
17:33:28 <Devil45> calling cops and getting people kicked out of community programs
17:33:43 <^bozoJim> and they get them kicked out
17:33:44 <Devil45> nothing better to do
17:33:49 <Devil45> shes a troublemaker
17:33:55 <^bozoJim> then the proof is shown the person did not do what they were accused of
17:34:06 <^bozoJim> and the cops claim not their fault
17:34:07 <Devil45> but that doesnt stop her
17:34:16 <Devil45> so yea.
17:34:23 <^bozoJim> the shed will close before christmas
17:34:25 <Devil45> why am i mad about it? because you didnt do it
17:34:34 <Devil45> yet you got blamed by a mad woman
17:34:39 <^bozoJim> yes
17:34:40 <Devil45> because of her idiot son
17:34:44 <Devil45> but
17:34:47 <Devil45> shes the bigger idiot
17:34:51 <^bozoJim> her son gets so confused
17:35:09 <Devil45> now if it was me (and i know it isnt) and i was there - met this son
17:35:15 <^bozoJim> and i he does not get hsi own wat he starts crying and upset and runs home to mommy
17:35:31 <Devil45> and he got 'confused' id probably set him straight on some points (no yelling)
17:35:38 <Devil45> so hes a mummys boy
17:35:42 <Devil45> that has to change
17:35:42 <^bozoJim> yes
17:35:50 <^bozoJim> the carers treat him like a baby
17:36:04 <Devil45> im surprised you didnt mutter 'hes a baby' under your breath
17:36:10 <Devil45> when he wasnt in earshot
17:36:16 <^bozoJim> we do
17:36:18 <Devil45> ha
17:36:30 <^bozoJim> today I was at the gallery doing pottery
17:36:34 <Devil45> effectively he and his mother are destroying that program
17:36:44 <Devil45> they should go
17:36:46 <^bozoJim> and we hear a car horn and brake lock up
17:36:46 <Devil45> not you
17:37:00 <Devil45> but what can you do
17:37:09 <Devil45> car horn - the mother?
17:37:11 <^bozoJim> he had wandered onto the road in front of a car and looking around
17:37:25 <Devil45> he shouldnt be in that program
17:37:30 <^bozoJim> and as teh car blew its horn it made him cry
17:37:32 <Devil45> hes not mentally fit
17:37:38 <^bozoJim> he s not fit to be
17:37:47 <^bozoJim> he almost got run over again
17:37:53 <Devil45> he should be in a mental institution
17:38:00 <^bozoJim> I totally agree
17:38:03 <Devil45> and his mother should mind her own business
17:38:11 <Devil45> or someone will educate her one day
17:38:16 <^bozoJim> his motehr should be in the cell next to him
17:38:18 <Devil45> not me - just someone
17:38:32 <Devil45> ive seen her type before
17:38:34 <^bozoJim> he was told to get off the road
17:38:46 <^bozoJim> so he starts stimming and not moving just crying
17:38:50 <Devil45> lets just say to be fair - she sounds like a real piece of work
17:38:57 <^bozoJim> his mother is
17:39:02 <^bozoJim> we call the cops
17:39:09 <Devil45> you get in trouble not her
17:39:09 <^bozoJim> they come and he wants the driver charged
17:39:13 <^bozoJim> pointing at the driver
17:39:18 <Devil45> er
17:39:22 <Devil45> not the drivers fault
17:39:24 <^bozoJim> teh driver failed to stop and let him stand on the road
17:39:31 <Devil45> unless driver is on phone and runs a red
17:39:32 <^bozoJim> he wanted to walk on the road
17:39:38 <^bozoJim> and his carer said he is allowed to
17:39:44 <Devil45> his carer is a fucking idiot
17:39:48 <Devil45> for saying that if its true
17:39:54 <^bozoJim> we know that
17:40:02 <^bozoJim> and this carer is a idiot
17:40:17 <Devil45> you dont say that to mentally handicapped people if youre their carer 'theyre allowed to walk in the road and get hit by traffic'
17:40:22 <Devil45> or whatever
17:40:23 <^bozoJim> actually walks in teh middle of the road with him
17:40:32 <Devil45> that carer should be sacked
17:40:40 <Devil45> for reckless endangerment
17:40:43 <^bozoJim> this carer should be locked up
17:40:55 <Devil45> the mother in that case would have cause to prosecute
17:40:57 <Devil45> the carer
17:41:01 <Devil45> for negligence
17:41:08 <^bozoJim> the mother told them if he wants to he does
17:41:21 <^bozoJim> so the mother does not have much to claim about
17:41:28 <^bozoJim> she knows he does walk middle of the road
17:41:30 <Devil45> who is in charge of that place - does the carer have a boss?
17:41:33 <Devil45> if so
17:41:44 <^bozoJim> carer has been videoed
17:41:46 <Devil45> why hasnt that boss sacked the carer and recommended the retarded guy be moved/
17:42:04 <^bozoJim> the carer gets his mother to protect her
17:42:22 <Devil45> carer sounds like she/he/it needs a carer
17:42:25 <^bozoJim> he has been hit twice this year
17:42:31 <Devil45> and professional help
17:42:34 <^bozoJim> yes
17:42:42 <^bozoJim> and removed from carer role
17:42:49 <Devil45> wont you be sort of glad to be out of that by xmas?
17:42:54 <Devil45> if thats the way its headed?
17:43:00 <Devil45> be away from the crying guy?
17:43:01 <^bozoJim> I am out now
17:43:07 <Devil45> and his lawsuit mother?
17:43:08 <^bozoJim> this is week 19 I am out the shed
17:43:22 <Devil45> i reckon the mother watches lots of judge judy
17:43:27 <^bozoJim> they want me back the swhed is hurting
17:43:27 <Devil45> and figures she can press charges
17:43:44 <Devil45> if the bosses want you back the mother has no say
17:43:53 <Devil45> er co-ordinators
17:43:59 <^bozoJim> she says I am not allowed back
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17:44:06 <Devil45> the mother says?
17:44:10 <Devil45> she is not in charge
17:44:14 <^bozoJim> as I make him look stupid all I can do compared to him
17:44:25 <Devil45> tell her to go fuck herself.
17:44:29 <^bozoJim> I disctriminate against him with all I can do blind
17:44:45 <^bozoJim> I did but more bluntly
17:44:48 <Devil45> i dont see how (no pun intended)
17:45:04 <^bozoJim> and I had 2 JPS with me when I told her
17:45:09 <^bozoJim> and they heard nothing
17:45:14 <Devil45> because legally blind is a bit different to mental handicaps
17:45:22 <^bozoJim> yes
17:45:28 <^bozoJim> and he plays on it
17:45:43 <Devil45> granted mental disability is common and can be managed
17:45:49 <^bozoJim> true
17:45:55 <Devil45> but his behaviour is outright retarded
17:46:00 <^bozoJim> some days he comes to the shed doped right up
17:46:04 <Devil45> and its the behaviour you have issue with
17:46:13 <Devil45> not the handicap
17:46:14 <^bozoJim> yes it is
17:46:24 <Devil45> so when i say retarded im talking about his action
17:46:27 <Devil45> not his condition
17:46:33 <^bozoJim> people ask him to shut up so they can concentrate on tehie r work
17:46:37 <^bozoJim> and he keeps chatting
17:46:43 <Devil45> but the mother is a pain in the ass
17:46:46 <^bozoJim> they tell him they have to conventrate
17:46:51 <^bozoJim> so he starts crying
17:47:09 <^bozoJim> he si abused a carer told him we have to let him talk
17:47:19 <Devil45> if it was me and i was mean - id probably mutter 'your mother gonna go on judge judy and sue someone else today is she?'
17:47:40 <^bozoJim> lol
17:47:43 <Devil45> but reality wise if i was there and he was yapping
17:47:57 <Devil45> and a carer said 'let him talk' my reply would be 'we dont have to listen to it'
17:48:05 <^bozoJim> true
17:48:21 <^bozoJim> one day he got smacked in the face
17:48:28 <Devil45> and if the carer is a woman with a man bun id tell her 'dont like it too bad'
17:48:32 <^bozoJim> he was on the drop saw he is not allowed on machinery
17:48:39 <^bozoJim> and the carer let him go unassisted
17:48:48 <^bozoJim> cut some plywood and it flew into his face
17:48:56 <^bozoJim> no face shield or anything
17:49:01 <Devil45> man bun is hair tied in a small bun makes some guys look like cleaning ladies. carers have buns like that - but theyre usually cranky women
17:49:06 <^bozoJim> yes
17:49:26 <^bozoJim> the machinery has the safety stuff you need on it
17:49:31 <^bozoJim> plus signs around the shed
17:49:35 <Devil45> he hasnt got the common sense
17:49:37 <^bozoJim> he claims he cannot read
17:49:40 <Devil45> to operate machinery
17:49:43 <Devil45> unassisted
17:49:43 <^bozoJim> and the carer said he did not need to use
17:49:57 <^bozoJim> we all have someone else with us
17:50:05 <Devil45> he shouldnt be near moving parts without supervision - in case of an accident
17:50:08 <^bozoJim> even the professional wood workers
17:50:24 <Devil45> when in a community workplace like that with machines
17:50:29 <^bozoJim> and it smacked him in the face
17:50:29 <Devil45> such as lathes drill presses
17:50:35 <Devil45> always have someone with you
17:50:41 <Devil45> make sure no accidents
17:50:42 <^bozoJim> yes that si shed rule
17:50:57 <^bozoJim> someone to shut the power off or take over if needed
17:51:05 <^bozoJim> and to assist
17:51:17 <^bozoJim> good thi ng was it was on camera
17:51:24 <^bozoJim> and his mother had no grounds
17:51:26 <Devil45> i once did a training course in woodwork - years ago - operated machinery - didnt have someone looking over my shoulder but they were close by - supervising - in case of accidents (which didnt happen)
17:51:33 <Devil45> so if i use common sense
17:51:39 <^bozoJim> yers true
17:51:41 <Devil45> so should all who use machines
17:51:46 <Devil45> whether they can read signs or not
17:51:54 <^bozoJim> we cannot ust eh power stuff alone
17:52:04 <^bozoJim> or hand planes
17:52:09 <Devil45> i wouldnt let you near a circular saw by yourself without me there
17:52:11 <Devil45> if it was me
17:52:15 <Devil45> in case of accidents :)
17:52:20 <^bozoJim> if it is powered or sharp not allowed to use
17:52:21 <Devil45> plus
17:52:28 <Devil45> if its a large piece of wood
17:52:38 <Devil45> someone has to hold it steady so you can cut safely
17:52:44 <^bozoJim> yes
17:52:58 <Devil45> i certainly wouldnt let crybaby boy near a chainsaw
17:53:04 <^bozoJim> on the lathes if they hit a crack or somethign at speed that wood can shatter
17:53:08 <Devil45> imagine what would happen
17:53:12 <^bozoJim> yes
17:53:19 <Devil45> with no face protection
17:53:21 <^bozoJim> they would not let me get my chain saw licence
17:53:25 <Devil45> split wood can fly up into your face
17:53:30 <^bozoJim> cry babys mother siad it was beyond me
17:53:34 <Devil45> and take an eye out
17:53:39 <^bozoJim> yes
17:53:45 <^bozoJim> so I did the training
17:53:49 <Devil45> same with metal lathes
17:53:50 <^bozoJim> borrowed a chainsaw
17:53:51 <Devil45> and grinders
17:53:54 <^bozoJim> yes
17:54:01 <Devil45> grinders spin downward
17:54:06 <Devil45> in some machines
17:54:06 <^bozoJim> full protective gear and did the prac exam
17:54:10 <Devil45> and upward in others
17:54:15 <^bozoJim> I passed perfectly
17:54:15 <Devil45> but they all have wheel guards
17:54:21 <Devil45> over the top
17:54:23 <^bozoJim> should have
17:54:38 <Devil45> imagine a grinding wheel - spinning fast away from you
17:54:43 <Devil45> with the guards
17:54:50 <Devil45> you want to sharpen a punch
17:54:56 <^bozoJim> one I cut the cord off did not have a wheel guard at the shed a cut off angle grinder
17:55:09 <^bozoJim> so it lost its cord
17:55:46 <^bozoJim> I would check every shed session for guards and they were tight in position and working
17:55:54 <^bozoJim> they were not it lost its plug
17:56:03 <Devil45> i once did that
17:56:25 <Devil45> in a metalwork shop - came across a lathe with a missing guard. so off came the plug.
17:56:48 <Devil45> another had a frayed part of the cord - was unplugged and marked.
17:57:04 <^bozoJim> yes
17:57:07 <^bozoJim> same as I did\
17:57:43 <Devil45> peace be with you - i dont get an evening off until end of june. so be good - say howdy to bart. and ignore trolls - if any join this room BAN EM :)
17:57:44 Quit: Devil45 ([email protected]) Quit: Three important rules of getting older: stay close to a bathroom, don't waste a hard-on, and never trust a fart!
17:57:48 <^bozoJim> I was the trainer for the machinery
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