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13:17:00 <Devil45> Thursday 25/04/2019 12:47:06
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15:29:00 <Devil45> ok
15:29:00 <Devil45> [14:51] <e|f> this chan isn't even moderated anymore so my voicing of those so previously unvoiced doesn't matter, i think
15:29:00 <Devil45> [14:51] <e|f> but it looks cute with everyone with a +
15:29:00 <Devil45> at least you did it MANUALLY
15:29:00 <Devil45> ibiza had a shitty auto script
15:30:00 <Devil45> DPS = shittermclovin
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15:37:00 <lx> 12 Do you realise that while you're here, you're also depriving a village of its idiot?
15:37:00 <lx> 12 Welcome [[[[[pong]]]]] into #mature`18+ I note you are also in #pooland, #Nerdhacks  which are known havens for retards and the dregs of society!
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15:38:00 <lx> 12 That will keep you quiet for a while!
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15:39:00 <lx> 12 Welcome deadpandashitz into #mature`18+ I note you are also in #pooland, #Nerdhacks  which are known havens for retards and the dregs of society!
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15:39:00 <lx> 12 No, I can see that you don't want to accept good advice!
15:39:00 <deadpandashitz> Devil45 shotter
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15:39:00 <lx> 12 That will keep you quiet for a while!
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15:42:00 <Devil45> its fuckwit day
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15:44:00 <Devil45> [15:06] <deadpandashitz> <Devil45> pong better not come in here and ruin my Anzac Day <- i never said that
15:44:00 <Devil45> christ i hate bullshitters
16:06:00 <e|f> lol
16:09:00 <Devil45> anyways hows the e|f? besides safe burning?
16:09:00 <e|f> pretty good ^_^
16:09:00 <Devil45> you burn stuff in a wheelbarrow
16:09:00 <Devil45> id use a 44 gallon drum for that
16:09:00 <e|f> yeah
16:09:00 <e|f> best option i had
16:10:00 <Devil45> pong1945
16:10:00 <e|f> my cousin has a chimnea (a kind of chimney) but the easiest and best option i had was a wheelbarrow
16:10:00 <Devil45> he thinks im a dish pig - the term is dish bitch - or kitchenhand
16:10:00 <Devil45> and thats not what i do at work
16:11:00 <Devil45> but he wouldnt know that because has never worked in his life.
16:11:00 <Devil45> [15:07] <[[[[[pong]]]]]> He so old
16:11:00 <Devil45> [15:07] <[[[[[pong]]]]]> He senile n smelly
16:11:00 <Devil45> first of all kezzie is older than i am (so is bozojim) is pong gonna call them senile too?
16:12:00 <Devil45> is he likely to call bonny 'old'?
16:12:00 <Devil45> doubt it - unless he wants a zline
16:12:00 <Devil45> pong is asking for it
16:12:00 <Devil45> he stupidly asked what chan when i told DPS to stay out of mine
16:12:00 <Devil45> i replied 'mind your own business you fat fuck'
16:13:00 <Devil45> all pong does is abuse bully and insult
16:13:00 <Devil45> have you ever seen him being nice?
16:13:00 <Devil45> and he wonders why i hate him
16:14:00 <Devil45> no one likes pong. but irc ops and most chan owners (except me) tolerate him
16:17:00 <Devil45> isnt icechat a shitty client?
16:17:00 <Devil45> like mibbit?
16:17:00 <e|f> yea
16:17:00 <e|f> lots of them are pretty average
16:17:00 <Devil45> thankgod i use blank mirc
16:17:00 <e|f> mirc is one full-featured one
16:18:00 <Devil45> i dont need fancy shit
16:18:00 <Devil45> simple mirc is all i need
16:18:00 <e|f> i got a newer version of linux on my other laptop yesterday
16:18:00 <e|f> linux is lovely
16:18:00 <Devil45> i hear linux is slim
16:18:00 <e|f> yep
16:18:00 <Devil45> but unless you know how it works its a bitch to configure
16:18:00 <e|f> and you can see and modify pretty much everything, depending
16:19:00 <e|f> not like windows or mac where some things are locked in or hidden
16:19:00 <Devil45> linux is harder than windows to configure
16:19:00 <e|f> not these days
16:19:00 <Devil45> it was
16:20:00 <e|f> pretty much any kind of app is available for it commensurate with windows ones
16:20:00 <Devil45> and heres me trying to get my head around windows 10
16:20:00 <e|f> and you can modify etc pretty much everything in them
16:20:00 <Devil45> win 10 has issues galore (the home version does)
16:21:00 <e|f> one big difference that sets windows apart is gaming
16:21:00 <e|f> most of the time most decent games can't run on linux or mac
16:21:00 <Devil45> win 8.1 is ok if you go pro
16:21:00 <Devil45> i found when id installed 8.1 pro the other day and had to customize firefox
16:21:00 <Devil45> addons werent available
16:21:00 <Devil45> checked version ... went ah shit.. updated to 60.0
16:21:00 <Devil45> then it worked
16:21:00 <Devil45> but i couldnt access some sites to bookmark them
16:21:00 <e|f> with a good (imo) distro of linux like ubuntu
16:21:00 <e|f> all you have to do
16:21:00 <Devil45> yet when i booted up win 7 and opened chrome the sites worked
16:22:00 <e|f> download the image (iso) and burn to cd or flash drive
16:22:00 <e|f> then reboot, put the cd in or whatever and click through the installation
16:22:00 <Devil45> ive had ubuntu before
16:22:00 <e|f> and voila, you have linux
16:22:00 <Devil45> ive installed linux mint in vms before
16:22:00 <e|f> yeah mint is another good one
16:22:00 <Devil45> granted the functions are limited in a vm
16:23:00 <Devil45> but it basically (hate that word - too many americans use it) did the job
16:23:00 <Devil45> every second word to americans is either basically or literally - and like is another one
16:23:00 <e|f> well you can run command line (terminal) operations to customise pretty much anything
16:23:00 <e|f> and there are GUIs built around those functions
16:23:00 <Devil45> linux terminal is ideal. isnt clonezilla based on linux?
16:24:00 <e|f> like you want to show seconds in the clock on the "taskbar"
16:24:00 <Devil45> it worked
16:24:00 <e|f> open terminal and type something like gsettings set gnome.org.desktop clock-show-seconds true
16:24:00 <e|f> and you're done
16:24:00 <e|f> or you can use a GUI someone's developed which will use that same command
16:24:00 <Devil45> was a windows os but the clone app looks linux based - because some lines referenced 'grub'
16:25:00 <Devil45> well a cd rom - bootable
16:25:00 <e|f> and you want to update your security software, easily done
16:25:00 <Devil45> i do that for failing drives
16:25:00 <e|f> and the terminal will show you exactly what's going on
16:25:00 <Devil45> linux - wasnt there a shutdown issue with one version a while back?
16:26:00 <Devil45> where it failed to end tasks?
16:26:00 <e|f> yea there are always bugs with any software
16:26:00 <Devil45> bugs with firefox
16:26:00 <e|f> but you just ignore it and wait a few weeks and someone will update it
16:26:00 <Devil45> bugs with vista
16:26:00 <Devil45> bugs with win 8
16:26:00 <Devil45> bugs with mirc
16:26:00 <e|f> most of those bugs are not present on well-supported versions of linux like ubuntu
16:26:00 <Devil45> and game bugs
16:26:00 <Devil45> ever played an old school game where the physics dont look right?
16:26:00 <e|f> yup
16:26:00 <Devil45> example - car racing
16:27:00 <e|f> my windows 10 pro tells me i updated my virus definitions... tomorrow
16:27:00 <Devil45> the cars dont handle and spin too much or in one game they sink into the road
16:27:00 <e|f> but someone will eventually see that and fix it
16:27:00 <Devil45> or one drag racing game - the car blows its engine before moving forward - those are bugs
16:28:00 <e|f> yep
16:28:00 <e|f> a lot of people who develop these things are hobbyists
16:28:00 <Devil45> or trees appear to lean - or pedestrians are walking in the sky
16:28:00 <e|f> but when there's a bunch of good people developing something, i suppose there's less likely to be bugs
16:28:00 <e|f> and if there are, they are sooner fixed
16:28:00 <Devil45> the beauty of mass teamwork
16:28:00 <Devil45> eventually - when reports go in
16:28:00 <Devil45> they get set to bugfix
16:28:00 <e|f> yup
16:29:00 <Devil45> and go through millions of lines of code
16:29:00 <Devil45> to find the error
16:29:00 <e|f> yep
16:29:00 <Devil45> ask any web site designer - someone who codes sites - things break - they have to find the bug
16:29:00 <Devil45> e.g. login fails
16:29:00 <e|f> some coding will always break eventually because it relies on someone else's code
16:30:00 <Devil45> or authentication services break so the user cannot stay signed in
16:30:00 <Devil45> or simply something just doesnt start
16:30:00 <e|f> like some code to login to something on a website - and then the person who made the site (separate) changes a few lines of something
16:30:00 <Devil45> and the server needs a reboot
16:30:00 <Devil45> :)
16:30:00 <e|f> lol yup
16:30:00 <Devil45> and of course updates
16:30:00 <Devil45> especially with SMF
16:30:00 <Devil45> sites running on SMF always have problems
16:31:00 <Devil45> features become unavailable
16:31:00 <Devil45> if its a torrent community - the forums may not be accessible
16:31:00 <e|f> in the olden days it used to be more simplistic on a general level
16:31:00 <e|f> but loads of technology has come along which muddles things up
16:32:00 <e|f> like go look at a website built in 1995
16:32:00 <e|f> so simple
16:32:00 <e|f> all HTML and maybe a bit of php
16:32:00 <e|f> not so these days
16:32:00 <Devil45> 95
16:32:00 <Devil45> the days when windows and internet worked differently
16:33:00 <e|f> windows xp was the first good one
16:33:00 <Devil45> only failing it had was no quick launch
16:33:00 <Devil45> win 98 had quick launch
16:33:00 <Devil45> allowing you to add shortcuts next to start
16:33:00 <e|f> yea
16:33:00 <Devil45> vista was a disaster
16:33:00 <Devil45> they call it windows vistaster
16:34:00 <Devil45> but win 7 came along - an improved version of vista
16:34:00 <Devil45> with less issues
16:34:00 <e|f> vista was riddled with driver problems and problems with the new user account control
16:34:00 <Devil45> then win 8 - with no start button
16:34:00 <Devil45> i remember vista and the driver issues
16:34:00 <e|f> but eventually they fixed all that with win 7 (another good one)
16:34:00 <Devil45> id install drivers for the devices
16:34:00 <Devil45> reboot
16:35:00 <e|f> windows 8 was where the CEO Steve Ballmer was trying to force people into buying Windows for tablets etc
16:35:00 <Devil45> then 'device manager' claimed the hardware was not installed
16:35:00 <e|f> that horrible Start menu
16:35:00 <Devil45> so network devices would fail
16:35:00 <e|f> then they added a feature in to disable Start menu view from boot and go straight to the desktop
16:35:00 <Devil45> xp was ok - it had issues but mostly with windows explorer
16:35:00 <Devil45> sometimes a game or app would crash
16:36:00 <Devil45> win 8 is horrid
16:36:00 <Devil45> 8.1 has a start button and with classicshell - can have a start menu
16:36:00 <Devil45> win 10 has the menu back with cortana
16:36:00 <Devil45> cortana 'ask me anything'
16:37:00 <Devil45> not a fan of ms edge though. its just as buggy as IE8 was
16:38:00 <Devil45> pong1945
16:38:00 <e|f> yeah first step for anyone installing windows is to open IE or Edge to download another browser
16:38:00 <e|f> i.e. chrome or firefox
16:39:00 <e|f> then disable IE/Edge
16:39:00 <Devil45> i simply dont use IE on win 8.1 except to update java
16:39:00 <Devil45> and grab chrome
16:39:00 <Devil45> once i install chrome - i customize and use that. its not as buggy as it used to be
16:40:00 <Devil45> chrome forgets settings and themes/addons in win xp
16:40:00 <e|f> yea
16:40:00 <Devil45> and reverts to white default pages
16:40:00 <Devil45> but in win 7 and later it remembers
16:40:00 <Devil45> ive had cases where chrome would go back to default with no extensions in xp
16:41:00 <Devil45> course its no longer supported on xp or vista
16:41:00 <e|f> yep
16:41:00 <e|f> they leave old users in the dirt
16:41:00 <e|f> and focus on what's new now
16:41:00 <e|f> but some of the old software is so great, in my view, they never needed to change it
16:41:00 <Devil45> win 10 has compatibility issues with some apps
16:42:00 <Devil45> but i think win 10 pro might not
16:42:00 <e|f> like a telnet client or a linux terminal is perfect the way it is
16:42:00 <Devil45> same with win 8.1 pro
16:42:00 <e|f> i have win 10 pro and have not had any issues with it
16:42:00 <e|f> major issues
16:42:00 <Devil45> it should work the same way as the home
16:42:00 <Devil45> with some differences
16:42:00 <Devil45> such as bitlocker
16:42:00 <Devil45> group policy
16:43:00 <Devil45> home doesnt have those
16:43:00 <Devil45> pro does
16:43:00 <e|f> yep
16:43:00 <e|f> task manager is a good example
16:43:00 <e|f> in home it's very limited
16:43:00 <e|f> in pro, not so
16:43:00 <Devil45> i saw it
16:43:00 <e|f> but on linux they have the same thing (system monitor) which is all free and is very good
16:43:00 <Devil45> 8.1 pro is great - depends on how devices are set up - or browsers
16:44:00 <Devil45> so if i can access a site on win 7 in chrome but cant on win 8.1 pro - with the same browser - thats a problem
16:44:00 <Devil45> might have to investigate that later find out why i cant bookmark some sites on 8.1 pro but can in win7
16:45:00 <Devil45> yesterday i tried to update a rig with 8.1 pro
16:45:00 <Devil45> and the desktop went spastic - flashing between the purple screen that youd see if its about to reboot and the wallpaper
16:46:00 <Devil45> kept refreshing flashing a lot
16:46:00 <Devil45> in disgust i forced a shutdown - zapped the os drive and reinstalled a different os
16:46:00 <Devil45> no more spastic flashing desktops
16:46:00 <e|f> maybe download an ubuntu LTS iso, install that on a machine and see if you like it
16:46:00 <e|f> i may convert you
16:47:00 <e|f> haha
16:47:00 <Devil45> perhaps a bad update
16:47:00 <Devil45> reminds me of a bios update i once did
16:47:00 <Devil45> which bricked the whole thing
16:47:00 <Devil45> it wouldnt boot after that
16:47:00 <e|f> yup
16:47:00 <Devil45> yet it was for that board/chipset/model
16:47:00 <e|f> my lappy had a dual boot of win 8 and ubuntu and it totally froze the other day
16:47:00 <e|f> i lost everything
16:47:00 <Devil45> from an official site
16:48:00 <e|f> luckily there wasn't much to lose
16:48:00 <e|f> so i just did a clean install of ubuntu on it
16:48:00 <Devil45> it was a hp but still
16:48:00 <e|f> works fine now
16:48:00 <Devil45> you would think their 'envy' series would take a bios update from the official site
16:48:00 <Devil45> ironically a different model took a bios update perfectly
16:49:00 <e|f> yep
16:49:00 <Devil45> so the flashing desktop yesterday was not due to bios - it was due to a bad windows update and conflicts
16:49:00 <Devil45> since redone it
16:49:00 <Devil45> all works
16:49:00 <Devil45> replaced the gfx card
16:49:00 <Devil45> figured it might be damaged
16:49:00 <Devil45> cheap ass nvidia oem crap
16:50:00 <Devil45> [16:15] <e|f> but my phone's download speed is faster than the nbn <- er?
16:50:00 <Devil45> other way around in my case
16:50:00 <e|f> this is true
16:50:00 <e|f> my nbn does about 2 MB/s
16:50:00 <e|f> phone maybe 3.5+
16:51:00 <Devil45> my phone does not do MB/s
16:51:00 <Devil45> its slower.
16:51:00 <e|f> mm
16:51:00 <Devil45> but can still use it for mirc and chrome
16:51:00 <Devil45> and youtube - but with limited data
16:51:00 <e|f> my phone is on the optus network, i think
16:51:00 <Devil45> mines with hellstra
16:51:00 <Devil45> and that was the site i couldnt bookmark this morning on win 8.1
16:52:00 <Devil45> i bookmark sites i go to for billing etc.
16:52:00 <e|f> ok
16:52:00 <Devil45> but it worked on win 7 - weird
16:53:00 <Devil45> might check the network devices on 8.1 later
16:53:00 <Devil45> see if a driver is causing bad connections
16:53:00 <e|f> maybe
16:53:00 <Devil45> such as ethernet
16:53:00 <Devil45> if it was updated - roll it back
16:54:00 <Devil45> if it wasnt - update it
16:54:00 <Devil45> weird because i could access youtube and google
16:55:00 <Devil45> bet you wouldnt have that problem in linux
16:55:00 <Devil45> ;p
16:55:00 <e|f> 4:D
16:56:00 <e|f> ubuntu.com > download latest long term support (LTS) version
16:56:00 <e|f> think it's 18.04.2
16:56:00 <e|f> rip the .iso to DVD-R and install on the machine of your choice
16:57:00 <e|f> think the ISO itself as a 1.8 GB download
16:57:00 <e|f> but not a problem for most people these days with their internet connections
16:57:00 <e|f> as a = is a
17:43:00 <lx> 12 Welcome deadpandas into #mature`18+ I note you are also in #pooland  which is a known haven for retards and the dregs of society!
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17:43:00 <lx> 12 Oh no... your colleagues mean that much to you?
17:43:00 <lx> 12 Moving deadpandas into the #mature`18+ "Cone of Silence".
17:43:00 <deadpandas> :D
17:44:00 <lx> 12 That will keep you quiet for a while!
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18:09:00 <e|f> this is true
18:09:00 <e|f> my nbn does about 2 MB/s
18:09:00 <e|f> phone maybe 3.5+
18:09:00 <!Devil45> my phone does not do MB/s
18:09:00 <!Devil45> its slower.
18:09:00 <e|f> mm
18:09:00 <!Devil45> but can still use it for mirc and chrome
18:09:00 <!Devil45> and youtube - but with limited data
18:09:00 <e|f> my phone is on the optus network, i think
18:09:00 <!Devil45> mines with hellstra
18:09:00 <!Devil45> and that was the site i couldnt bookmark this morning on win 8.1
18:09:00 <!Devil45> i bookmark sites i go to for billing etc.
18:09:00 <e|f> ok
18:09:00 <!Devil45> but it worked on win 7 - weird
18:09:00 <!Devil45> might check the network devices on 8.1 later
18:09:00 <!Devil45> see if a driver is causing bad connections
18:09:00 <e|f> maybe
18:09:00 <!Devil45> such as ethernet
18:09:00 <!Devil45> if it was updated - roll it back
18:09:00 <!Devil45> if it wasnt - update it
18:09:00 <!Devil45> weird because i could access youtube and google
18:09:00 <!Devil45> bet you wouldnt have that problem in linux
18:09:00 <!Devil45> ;p
18:09:00 <e|f> :D
18:09:00 <e|f> ubuntu.com > download latest long term support (LTS) version
18:09:00 <e|f> think it's 18.04.2
18:09:00 <e|f> rip the .iso to DVD-R and install on the machine of your choice
18:09:00 <e|f> think the ISO itself as a 1.8 GB download
18:09:00 <e|f> but not a problem for most people these days with their internet connections
18:09:00 <e|f> as a = is a
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18:09:01 <lx> Oh no... your colleagues mean that much to you?
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18:09:01 <!deadpandas> :D
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