// #marryatvillehs — 2008-05-15
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13:24:11 Join: stefan|laptop ([email protected]) to #marryatvillehs
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13:47:19 <aSH^> ey andrew
13:47:24 <aSH^> how was last night?
14:00:34 <Carson> http://unrelated.net.au/shares/?live=yes
14:00:36 <Carson> minimal red
14:05:52 <aSH^> yeah
14:06:01 <aSH^> so you're down $12.50 on penrice
14:06:23 <aSH^> and vcr has always been down
14:09:14 <Carson> yeah :(
14:09:45 <Carson> vcr has a possibility of getting back up
14:11:00 <aSH^> they appear to have been losing money year after year for the last decade
14:12:10 <Carson> they're making some pacemaker type thingo
14:12:18 <Carson> its better than a pacemaker though :)
14:12:34 <Carson> overall, it keeps getting closer to production and stuff which should be pushing it up
14:13:58 <Carson> and if it does go into production the price will sky rocket
14:14:10 <Carson> its a speculative share :D
14:18:13 <Carson> its frustrating
14:18:22 <Carson> because overall all news recently has been good for them
14:18:26 <Carson> but the share price continues to drop
16:05:13 <aSH^> my stocks have performed decently in the last couple of days
16:05:22 <aSH^> yesterday bhp up 6%, today jb hifi up 6%
16:07:43 <Carson> nice
16:30:38 <aSH^> hey carson, how do i log into your server again?
16:32:45 <Carson> 202.58.54.39
16:38:51 <aSH^> ah cool
16:38:56 <aSH^> i wanted to try making a facebook app
16:39:00 <aSH^> need to host it somewhere
16:39:13 <aSH^> would it be ok for me to use your box? :p
16:41:30 <stefan|laptop> I started making one too, then discovered my idea actually used to be built in to facebook but it became too impractical to use
16:41:39 <aSH^> what was your idea?
16:41:50 <aSH^> i've search throught he apps and haven't really found anything that does what i'm thinking of
16:41:53 <stefan|laptop> showing maps of how your friends knew each other
16:42:07 <aSH^> i want to make one that shows the demographics of your friends, eg. average age, how many from each country etc
16:42:16 <aSH^> i need to see whether that information is avilable through the api
16:42:18 <stefan|laptop> http://home.stefan.id.au/friendnetwork/ I think
16:42:42 <stefan|laptop> was going to move to dreamhost if it worked, the software was easy enough
16:43:06 <stefan|laptop> you'll probably recognise the little diagram tool I used, was just a proof of concept until I got a better one
16:44:06 <aSH^> k just waiting for it to load up
16:44:28 <aSH^> whoa that's a wacky looking diagram
16:44:31 <stefan|laptop> that's probably mostly the massive image
16:44:32 <stefan|laptop> exactly
16:44:44 <aSH^> what is that? lol
16:44:49 <stefan|laptop> but if you look at it, you can't really do it much smarter
16:44:53 <stefan|laptop> the logic behind it is pretty right
16:45:24 <aSH^> it took ages to load, are you doing lots of separate api calls?
16:45:39 <stefan|laptop> yeah, a fuckload :\
16:45:56 <aSH^> you could probably put it all as one 'fbl' query
16:46:03 <stefan|laptop> have to check every friend against each other, and iirc they had to be done seperately, can't remember
16:46:49 <stefan|laptop> ah no, there's a massive array, can't remember why it's so slow
16:46:53 <aSH^> i don't understand the diagram at all though, lol, it's got millions of dots
16:47:08 <stefan|laptop> oh, what number?
16:49:45 <stefan|laptop> hah
16:50:09 <stefan|laptop> http://home.stefan.id.au/friendnetwork/1039693915.jpg is a random and how I'd hoped it'd come out
16:50:23 <aSH^> carson can you give me ownership of my home dir on your box?
16:50:32 <stefan|laptop> yes they're all censored so I could link random ones around
16:50:48 <aSH^> http://home.stefan.id.au/friendnetwork/580993080.png
16:50:50 <aSH^> that's mine
16:50:55 <stefan|laptop> ah, ok
16:50:57 <aSH^> http://home.stefan.id.au/friendnetwork/580993080.jpg
16:50:59 <aSH^> and the other
16:51:03 <aSH^> oh, same
16:52:05 <stefan|laptop> not going to load these on 24k, but mine must be in http://home.stefan.id.au/friendnetwork/test/
16:52:25 <aSH^> carson: i think my uid might have changed on your server or something, because i no longer own any of the files in my home dir and the uid that owns them doesn't have a username
16:52:26 <stefan|laptop> you can probably guess who most of those are :)
16:53:14 <stefan|laptop> but trying to get that to work so it's actually a diagram that's readable and looks decent is somewhat impossible
16:53:39 <aSH^> is that like the friendwheel app?
16:54:00 <stefan|laptop> yeah, but the idea was so you could actually see who was connected
16:54:04 <stefan|laptop> ie it was done by logic
16:54:15 <aSH^> oh i see
16:54:24 <aSH^> there is some cool algorithm for doing that
16:54:44 <stefan|laptop> that's just GraphViz which is a very standard library
16:54:50 <aSH^> where you simulate the items floating in 2d space, the the stronger links gravitate more towards eachother
16:54:56 <stefan|laptop> and looking at it it does it fairly smartly, it's just nasty data
16:56:09 <stefan|laptop> ah, it loaded finally, the -seg is split up and -all is floating around me
16:56:17 <stefan|laptop> and -1st the very first attempt, that was fun
16:56:25 <aSH^> did you see the one i linked?
16:56:33 <aSH^> something went wrong with it..lol
16:57:23 <aSH^> oh.. wait no.. i just had to expand it in firefox
16:57:31 <aSH^> it looked heaps fucked when it was shrunken
16:58:10 <aSH^> yeah, those are some dense graphs
16:58:57 <aSH^> *waits for carson to see this channel and change his home dir permissions*
16:59:22 <stefan|laptop> yeah, and some people have hundreds, it just wouldn't work
17:00:28 <aSH^> i want to make a bar chart with age groups, like 1-17, 18-24, 25-30, 30-40 to show the age groups of your friends
17:00:38 <aSH^> i just gotta find out whether it will let me query that information about friends
17:02:03 <stefan|laptop> yeah, pretty sure it will, once you add the developer application you get access to the api to browse
17:02:29 <stefan|laptop> and #facebook on freenode too, may have info in the topic you can use
17:02:47 <aSH^> i think ill need to do an "fbl" query
17:03:02 <aSH^> so i'll see if it comes back with results or some kind of not authorised message
17:16:08 <Carson> ey
17:16:10 <Carson> was driving home
17:16:12 <Carson> let me take a look
17:16:37 <Carson> fixed
17:16:40 <aSH^> ah cool thanks
17:17:17 <Carson> and yeah, hosting that on my site is fine
17:17:33 <Carson> let me know if you want a vhost or something setup for it
17:19:41 <aSH^> home dir will be ok for now, but doesn't seem to be set up
17:19:51 <Carson> wouldn't suprize me :D
17:20:17 <aSH^> i think you gotta load mod_userdir
17:27:06 <Carson> getting there...
17:27:10 <Carson> 500 server error :D
17:27:26 <Carson> ubuntu apache is quite different from redhat
17:27:31 <Carson> which is what i mainly deal with
17:28:09 <Carson> [Thu May 15 16:55:56 2008] [alert] [client 58.160.153.91] /home/ash/public_html/.htaccess: Alias not allowed here
17:28:41 <aSH^> k i deleted that
17:28:43 <Carson> commented out your line
17:28:45 <aSH^> working now, nice
17:28:50 <Carson> sweet
17:28:54 <Carson> enjoy
17:28:57 <aSH^> ta
17:29:31 <Carson> *plays tf2*
17:31:19 Quit: stefan|laptop ([email protected]) Quit:
17:36:52 <JarZ> hihi
17:37:26 <Carson> hi
17:37:31 <Carson> working tonight?
17:59:04 <JarZ> yup
17:59:05 <JarZ> why?
18:01:55 <Carson> oh, i'm not working tomorrow
18:01:59 <Carson> was wondering what you'd be upto
18:08:10 <aSH^> hm heaps of people don't actually set their birthdays on facebook
18:08:35 <Carson> i did :)
18:21:43 <JarZ> why not work?
18:23:56 <Carson> asked for it off
18:24:05 <Carson> today felt like a friday, so i made it a friday :D
18:36:29 <aSH^> nice
18:36:41 <aSH^> i kept hearing people say it felt like a friday today
18:36:52 <aSH^> i should probably go home, instead of sitting here working on this facebook app
18:38:33 <Carson> yeah, that sounds like a good option
18:38:38 <Carson> i have no idea what to have for dinner tonight
18:44:36 <JarZ> i was going to suggest going out
18:44:49 <JarZ> but then i decided to buy food earlier
19:20:04 <ash> how was last night andrew
19:22:24 <Carson> grr, mncs irc is down
19:22:28 <Carson> stefan!
19:26:51 <Carson> hmmm, and oz.org
19:26:57 <Carson> maybe something is happening at work
19:34:00 <JarZ> last night was good
19:34:03 <JarZ> i got so paro :\
19:34:42 <JarZ> only :\ cos i was horribly hung over for most of the day, and had to get up early (by my standards..) to take my uncle to the airport
19:35:12 <JarZ> saw lots of people and did lots of drunken dancing, so it was a good night :D
19:37:32 <Carson> sweet
20:00:44 <JarZ> work time
20:00:45 <JarZ> :(
20:01:49 <Carson> enjoy!
20:23:43 <Timegrinder> only for you :P
20:27:15 <Carson> yeah
20:27:18 <Carson> just got called from work
20:27:22 <Carson> they've got an optus link issue
20:28:01 <Carson> its funny, my vpn connection is still up :)
21:18:12 <Carson> not funny then?
21:46:56 <Timegrinder> yeah, it's funny
21:47:07 <Timegrinder> I jut wasn't here to har har over it
21:47:09 <Timegrinder> until now
21:47:10 <Timegrinder> har har!
21:50:22 <Carson> ta.
21:50:36 <Carson> 3 more achievements and i get a new weapon!
22:04:16 <Carson> 2
22:06:25 <damian> woo, weapons
22:06:32 <Carson> *nod*
22:06:40 <damian> ey carson, what do you think of woolworths shares?
22:06:49 <Carson> haven't looked into them at all
22:07:00 <damian> why not!
22:14:07 <Carson> just haven't :D
22:14:26 <damian> tsk tsk tsk
22:14:39 <damian> i got offered to buy into a few shares, thinking about taking it
22:14:56 <damian> figure i can't lose, unless someone goes to take down woolies
22:15:06 <damian> ie; terrorists blow up every safeway in australia
22:15:54 <Carson> yeah, almost impossible to lose it all
22:16:01 <Carson> but it may not make enough to be worth the investment
22:16:07 <Carson> again, i haven't looked into them, so nfi :)
22:16:19 <damian> well, three years ago shares were at about $15
22:16:23 <damian> they're now at $28
22:17:12 <damian> just have to buy up either $500 or $1,000 worth
22:29:28 <damian> mmm dear
22:29:30 <damian> Terminator 4 @!
22:29:41 <Carson> ...
22:30:05 <damian> that @! should have been !@?
22:30:14 <damian> yes, there's another one
22:31:02 <damian> christian bale as connor *bleh*
22:42:10 <Carson> i'm assuming john... :D
22:59:54 <Timegrinder> christian's pretty good
23:00:00 <Timegrinder> but wtf, why are they still doing terminator?
23:01:54 <ash> i was looking at woolworths a while ago damo
23:01:58 <ash> even used to hold them actually
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