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03:53:37 <stefan> hah, my realplayer did a carson, twice
03:53:38 <stefan> http://home.stefan.id.au/~stefan/temp/realplayer.carson.png
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14:16:26 <Carson> lol
14:16:32 <Carson> i think i figured out what happened to my site
14:16:41 <Carson> google indexed it.
14:17:00 <Carson> and i'm guessing hit something it kinda shouldn't have which caused it to die
14:17:16 <ash^> what have you got on there that might cause it to die?
14:17:34 <Carson> heaps of shit
14:17:40 <Carson> http://unrelated.net.au/
14:17:45 <Carson> just open every link
14:17:50 <Carson> and in there, there's more... and so on
14:19:51 <ash^> what's videodb do?
14:19:59 <ash^> you've got a lot of stuff on there...
14:20:15 <Carson> its a db of all my tv eps
14:20:26 <Carson> and movies
14:21:09 <ash^> where does it get the info from?
14:21:11 <Carson> i'm thinking it was the java irc plugin
14:21:15 <Carson> a database...
14:21:44 <Carson> possible that some images were fetched from imdb, but most are cached (and i've already looked at every ep/movie)
14:22:47 <Carson> which is now passworded...
14:23:06 <ash^> but i mean, where does it initially get all the info from
14:23:43 <Carson> well, the movie/ep info from imdb/tv.com
14:23:54 <Carson> and the file info from my running some scripts and importing
14:24:48 <ash^> thats cool
14:24:54 <ash^> is there anything like that for music?
14:25:04 <Carson> not that i'm aware of
14:25:46 <Carson> there's probably a plugin for winamp that could output most of it
14:25:55 <Carson> and i reckon it couldn't be 'that' hard to make something like it
14:26:10 <Carson> read the file size/name, then id3 tags, output to db
14:26:18 <Carson> then maybe head to cddb and get more info if required
14:27:21 <ash^> yeah, it would be good to have
14:27:30 <ash^> similar to videodb, with album cover pics etc
14:27:39 <Carson> yeah
14:27:53 <Carson> it'd be useless for me, as alot of my mp3s don't have that info in them
14:28:08 <Carson> but i imagine it would be heaps good if all the id3 info was correct
14:28:10 <ash^> yeah, but don't you have the same issue with movies?
14:28:13 <ash^> and eps
14:28:15 <stefan> www.spacialaudio.com has stuff that does that, but I've only used the broadcaster, quite a bit bigger than what you're after
14:28:20 <stefan> uses whatever database you want
14:28:24 <ash^> how does it recognise the series title and season/ep number?
14:28:29 <Carson> yeah, but there's only a *guess* 1000 or so i need to fix manually
14:28:42 <Carson> its all in the filename
14:29:47 <Carson> series name - s01e04 - episode title.avi
14:29:51 <Carson> that kind of format
14:30:09 <Carson> the simpsons - s14e20 - brake my wife please.avi
14:30:21 <Carson> etc
14:31:03 <Carson> there's also scripts to help get the info from tv.com for a whole series
14:31:13 <Carson> and there's built-in imdb lookups
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15:19:22 <JarZ> stefan or Simulacrum, you guys around?
15:20:01 <stefan> yeah
15:21:05 <JarZ> could you please get me some specs/prices on laptops, around the $1000-1100 mark? my dad is looking to buy
15:21:25 <JarZ> acer always had good deals when i looked.. so maybe look at hitech's prices?
15:24:51 <stefan> 4 at hitech in that range
15:25:21 <JarZ> specs/prices?
15:27:08 <stefan> approx prices only
15:27:12 <stefan> $880 ACER ASP 3623 WXCI CM1.5 256MB/40 H
15:27:24 <stefan> $950 ACER T/MATE 2403 WXCI CM1.5G 256/40 P
15:27:51 <stefan> $1120 NEC VERSA E3100 CM 1.56GHZ/14"/60/512 H
15:28:04 <stefan> $1150 ACER T/MATE 2434 WLMI CM1.6G 512/60 H
15:28:40 <stefan> in the process of submitting a whole bunch of dealer apps, including techpac/ingram + synnex, so if you've got a few days we should be able to come up with a more comprehensive list
15:28:50 <stefan> the ASUSs have come down to be very competitive recently, at wholesale anyway
15:28:52 <JarZ> CM? celeron mobile for the lot of them?
15:28:55 <stefan> yup
15:29:00 <JarZ> gah
15:29:10 <stefan> PM starts at ~$1400
15:29:26 <JarZ> i swear there were a bunch of nice acers at around the $1100 mark :\
15:30:27 <stefan> my ASUS was only about $1500, and it's a pretty damn good laptop
15:30:35 <stefan> think it's gone up a hundred or two since though :\
15:32:25 <JarZ> k
15:33:50 <JarZ> might just have to go to the auctions, it seems
15:35:34 <stefan> there were some ok dells on grays from the melbourne games iirc
15:36:15 <JarZ> i'd rather go to an auction in person, you get much better deals
15:49:20 <ash^> andrew, when are you thinking of moving out?
15:50:34 <Talesin> hey
15:50:42 <ash^> hi
15:50:43 <Talesin> get to uni this morning ash?
15:50:47 <ash^> nah
15:50:48 <ash^> :p
15:50:50 <ash^> oh well
15:52:39 <Talesin> im watching this wife swap show and one of the families just got this mum whos got huge fake breasts and their all guys and going crazy
15:53:22 <ash^> lol
15:55:23 <Talesin> what time did you wake up?
15:55:40 <ash^> before 1
15:55:53 <ash^> 12:30 or something
15:55:57 <Talesin> nice
15:56:01 <JarZ> moving out? i'm not thinking about it at all, i've got everything i want/need at home, without half of the bills
15:56:10 <JarZ> however, if an opportunity came up i may take it, i dont know
15:56:13 <JarZ> why do you ask?
15:56:41 <ash^> just cos i'm thinking lots about how i can't wait to start working full time and move out, so i feel like talking about it :P
15:56:52 <ash^> you can't live at your dad's place forever
15:57:33 <JarZ> i know that
15:57:39 <JarZ> but i've got no reason to move out any time soon
15:57:44 <JarZ> not with my current job and such at least
15:58:28 <JarZ> i have too many things i need to sort out before even thinking of moving out
15:58:34 <JarZ> sort out financially that is
15:59:27 <JarZ> i think we've had this discussion before (or maybe it was just with jack, i cant remember) but you/jack feel like moving out so much more than i do.. and i think it's because your families are always around, you get little privacy at home, etc
15:59:41 <JarZ> whereas i've got the complete opposite - i barely ever see my family, and i can do whatever i want
15:59:55 <ash^> maybe
16:00:00 <ash^> i just want a place that's "mine" though
16:00:13 <ash^> and to be in complete control of my life's direction
16:00:26 <ash^> and just being 100% independant would be cool
16:07:34 <ash^> i would feel so much more satisfied if i was paying my own rent/bills etc, organising all my own house-related things, living in a place that i picked out myself, having friends over at any time, etc..
16:17:33 <JarZ> see i reckon your last point there is what really kills living at home... for people like you, for example.
16:19:43 <JarZ> but i do still see your point :P
16:20:28 <JarZ> that sort of thing is cool and all... in theory. it sucks when you do have to pay for everything yourself, and you're left with fuck all money to spend how you want
16:21:24 <ash^> i reckon i'll be aiite. it might cost $300/w or something to live
16:24:18 <JarZ> which is a fair amount of money :\
16:24:30 <JarZ> also you have to think of the initial costs - furniture, cutlery, etc
16:24:36 <JarZ> appliances are a huge cost :(
16:27:40 <JarZ> it would be awesome and all.. but the cost of everything is.. ugh:(
16:28:23 <JarZ> on to a more positive side of this kind of conversation...
16:28:29 <JarZ> if you moved out, who would you move out with?
16:28:33 <JarZ> anyone? or just yourself?
16:28:34 <ash^> yeah but you have to handle that, just like your dad and my parents have to
16:29:01 <ash^> i wouldn't mind moving out on my own, cos i enjoy living on my own, but i'd probably be looking at sharing a place to save on rent
16:30:11 <JarZ> yeah, but i'm not ready to handle it at this point in my life. i need certain things first..mostly money related. i want to go overseas, i need a new car, and i'd need a good amount of savings before moving out
16:30:18 <JarZ> alone? yeah? i reckon i'd hate it
16:31:11 <ash^> i did it in sweden and thought it was awesome
16:31:14 <ash^> although that was kinda sharing
16:31:16 <JarZ> living with a couple of friends would be cool in theory.. but i've heard so many times that it brings out the worst in people, and friends are often hard to live with :(
16:31:20 <ash^> i had my own room, and shared living/kitchen area
16:31:29 <JarZ> yeah dorm living doesnt really compare to your own house imo
16:31:49 <JarZ> that sounds pretty much the same as living out of home with friends, lol
16:31:58 <JarZ> you'd have your own bedroom, then shared loungerooms and kitchen ;P
16:32:04 <ash^> lol
16:32:38 <ash^> i think any issues would usually be money related
16:32:49 <JarZ> hmm
16:33:12 <JarZ> i dont think that would be much of an issue within our usual group of people
16:33:19 <JarZ> i think a bigger issue would be chores, cleaning, etc
16:33:20 <ash^> yeah
16:33:26 <ash^> as long as everyone HAD enough money to pay their share of rent
16:34:11 <ash^> hahaha
16:34:14 <ash^> i'm very messy
16:34:33 <JarZ> i *know* that that would be an issue with me
16:34:34 <JarZ> lol
16:34:40 <JarZ> i hate cleaning, unless i get into a crazy cleaning mood
16:34:40 <JarZ> lol
16:35:05 <ash^> i usually do everything the ultimate lazy way
16:35:13 <JarZ> example?
16:35:45 <ash^> dishes for example... leaving everything dirty on the sink and only cleaning things before you need to use them
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16:36:06 <JarZ> ahhh
16:36:13 <JarZ> yeah i'm not quite that bad...
16:36:15 <JarZ> but almost
16:36:23 <JarZ> i wait until almost everything is dirty
16:36:26 <JarZ> then i clean the whole lot at once
16:36:26 <JarZ> lo
16:36:30 <JarZ> l
16:36:55 <ash^> hehehe
16:36:59 <ash^> i'm like that with washing
16:37:17 <ash^> i'll wear everything many times and have all my clothes on my floor, and eventually just wash everything in one massive batch (usually a few loads)
16:38:10 <JarZ> once again, not quite as bad
16:38:10 <JarZ> i usually only wear things once or twice before washing them
16:38:13 <JarZ> but before a load, there's often like a week's worth of clothes on my floor
16:38:13 <JarZ> haha
16:38:32 <ash^> i'm looking now, and i can barely see any carpet through my clothes
16:39:28 <JarZ> lol
16:39:38 <JarZ> i did my washing yesterday (two loads, lol)
16:39:40 <JarZ> so i can see floor :D
16:40:56 <JarZ> bleh! this conversation is making me want to move out
16:40:59 <JarZ> it would be so awesome
16:41:05 <JarZ> but once again... costs *Cries*
16:42:40 <ash^> yeah it would
16:43:07 <ash^> i think the self-satisfaction of being moved out would be better than any of the relative benefits like a bit more freedom
16:43:32 <JarZ> really?
16:43:46 <JarZ> i think the experience, the fun of it would be the best part for me
16:44:16 <ash^> just knowing that you've begun your adult life would feel good
16:44:32 <ash^> yeah the fun would be excellent :>
16:44:43 <JarZ> yeah, see i dont equate moving out to = start of adult life
16:44:59 <JarZ> because i'm pretty much independent as it is
16:45:12 <thegoldenone_25> anyone know spanish? tell me the meaning of de nada
16:45:21 <ash^> "no problem"
16:46:20 <JarZ> google is your friend ;P~
16:46:57 <ash^> it means no problem/you're welcome kinda thing
16:47:22 <thegoldenone_25> thanks =)
16:52:40 <Carson> ey emma
16:52:48 <JarZ> and now i'm bored :o(
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17:02:49 <ash^> oh yeah
17:02:55 <ash^> last night we invented an awesome sport
17:03:10 <ash^> it's like soccer, using a coke bottle and 4 bushes
17:03:30 <ash^> and there's special rules relating to grass territory and bushes
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17:04:02 <ash^> then the cops came cos we had a noise complaint
17:04:03 <JarZ> hahahaha
17:04:06 <JarZ> LOL
17:04:07 <ash^> aparently we were "skateboarding"
17:04:07 <ash^> lol
17:04:12 <JarZ> what'd you guys get up to?
17:04:28 <ash^> we were just playing with that bottle for ages
17:04:40 <JarZ> yeah but, you went and got stoned somewhere right? :P
17:04:52 <ash^> yep, in the park near taliesin's
17:04:53 <JarZ> before bottle kicking
17:04:59 <JarZ> also.. a noise complaint? LOL that's a first isnt it?
17:05:04 <ash^> man i wanna play that game now!
17:05:14 <ash^> yeah
17:05:46 <ash^> it's one thing that the gold coke bottle is good for
17:07:33 <JarZ> lol
17:07:55 <Carson> and the random swing wars
17:08:00 <ash^> oh yeah
17:08:02 <ash^> swing wars!
17:08:13 <ash^> thats the most physically intense game ever
17:08:27 <ash^> hahaha
17:08:30 <ash^> i forgot about that
17:09:52 <JarZ> :( i hate missing out on that sort of thing, so much
17:10:02 <JarZ> i
17:10:06 <Carson> and my plan worked
17:10:10 <Carson> i was awake the whole time :D
17:10:13 <JarZ> i'm currently applying for a couple of jobs
17:10:23 <ash^> wat choo applyin' for?
17:10:32 <JarZ> Carson; sif not having a car changed anything. :P
17:10:46 <JarZ> ash^; full time sales assistant at dick smith's at marion
17:10:50 <JarZ> and some random woolworths jobs
17:11:06 <ash^> how's your resume?
17:11:48 <ash^> you should do it up nice
17:12:53 <JarZ> yeah i need to update it
17:12:59 <JarZ> it's nice, just not up to date with my last few jobs etc
17:13:10 <JarZ> since i last used it when i got my bilo job lol
17:13:47 <ash^> ah
17:13:52 <ash^> how'd you get the fruit&veg job then?
17:14:14 <JarZ> didnt i tell you the story behind that? lol
17:14:32 <JarZ> i was doing my shopping down at arkaba when iw as living at my mum's place
17:14:47 <JarZ> and i saw the owner of the shop outside. talked to him for a bit etc
17:14:56 <JarZ> he asked if i was working.. i said i wasnt really
17:15:03 <JarZ> he said come work for him... so i did
17:15:03 <JarZ> lol
17:15:09 <JarZ> i started two weeks later
17:15:38 <ash^> awesome
17:16:04 <ash^> networking is a good way to get jobs
17:16:21 <ash^> i heard about 70% of jobs are not advertised publically
17:16:35 <JarZ> yeah it's a ridiculous percentage
17:17:11 <JarZ> when i was doing job search training type stuff.. they said the best way to get a job is to get 50 copies of your resume and drop them into 50 places that take your fancy
17:17:20 <JarZ> most of the time you'll at least get a few interviews from that kind of number
17:17:44 <ash^> wow
17:17:54 <ash^> the thing i hate most about applying for jobs is that they might call your referees
17:18:01 <ash^> so i try to be sparing with how many jobs i apply for
17:18:17 <ash^> i hate the thought of them getting rung up all the time and being asked about someone who they worked with ages ago
17:18:28 <Carson> yeah, that'd suck
17:18:33 <JarZ> no one ever calls references
17:18:41 <Carson> hostworks did
17:18:42 <ash^> i disagree with that
17:18:47 <Carson> so did the other job i got at the same time
17:18:56 <ash^> a LOT of companies have a policy that you have to do a reference check before hiring
17:19:09 <JarZ> really? i've never experienced that
17:19:10 <Carson> they don't bother calling them until its like the last stage though
17:19:16 <ash^> yeah
17:19:29 <ash^> usually just before they take you on, as a formality, they have to talk to a referee and just make sure you're not a serial killer
17:19:31 <Carson> eg, when i went in for my second interview at hostworks they said i basically had the job, and that they just had to call the referees
17:19:32 <JarZ> i know bilo was called once in the entire time i had worked there
17:19:55 <JarZ> yeah exactly, that's the other thing - they're only going to call if you've pretty much got the job
17:20:16 <JarZ> sif be worried about that sort of thing. at worst, let your referees know that you've applied for a few jobs, and that they might get a phonecall or two
17:20:25 <ash^> yeah
17:20:27 <ash^> i did that
17:20:36 <Carson> i did that too... to make sure they remembered me
17:20:48 <ash^> like, i called netcraft just to check if they had any part time work, and at the same time warned the guy about possible upcomming reference phone calls
17:20:54 <Carson> "hey, hows it going, what you been upto. oh, btw, you might be getting a call soon"
17:20:55 <ash^> same with trilogy
17:21:07 <Carson> trilogy?
17:21:10 <JarZ> ya
17:21:25 <ash^> trilogy = that random place i worked at for about 6 months in 2004, in kent town
17:21:32 <Carson> i hope thats not the same trilogy i know
17:21:35 <Carson> they're useless bastards
17:21:43 <ash^> "trilogy computer systems"?
17:21:46 <ash^> very small adelaide branch?
17:21:59 <Carson> not sure exactly... we only really deal with them because of nutrimetics
17:22:05 <ash^> ah
17:22:06 <Carson> they outsourced some of there stuff to trilogy
17:22:06 <ash^> yes
17:22:10 <ash^> nutrimetics is a trilogy customer
17:22:14 <ash^> haha
17:22:17 <JarZ> lol
17:22:18 <ash^> yes, they are pretty dumb
17:22:19 <Carson> yeah, they're fucking useless :D
17:22:32 <ash^> do you remember any names?
17:22:34 <JarZ> i hope i get this DSE job. that'd be pretty cool actually
17:22:50 <Carson> naa, we barely deal with them, as technically trilogy aren't our customer
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17:23:22 <ash^> their ceo is a lawyer too, which makes them a total cunt company
17:23:42 Quit: thegoldenone_25 ([email protected]) Read error to thegoldenone_25: Connection reset by peer
17:24:37 <ash^> which woolworths are you applying at andr
17:24:44 <ash^> is that store near your house a woolworths
17:24:45 <ash^> ?
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17:25:14 <Taliesin> fuck my keyboard pisses me off
17:25:34 <Taliesin> sometimes it switches so that when i press any keys it acts as a short cut which means i cant type
17:26:30 <Taliesin> ash you up for uni tonight?
17:26:44 <Carson> tap the shift ctrl and alt keys
17:26:47 <Carson> usually fixes it
17:26:50 <ash^> yup Taliesin
17:27:24 <Carson> aww uni... i wanted to do 'something'
17:27:28 <Carson> its my last night off
17:27:55 <ash^> something meaning get stoned? :p
17:28:03 <ash^> i would be up for a sesh after uni
17:28:10 <Taliesin> same
17:28:18 <ash^> and we're very close to your house
17:28:24 <Carson> naa, i think i've done enough schmoking this we.... yeah, might aswell come around then
17:28:32 <Carson> *grin*
17:28:34 <ash^> lol
17:29:03 <Carson> but seriously... i was thinking something else
17:29:03 <ash^> this time, don't fall asleep so that we're trapped in your house stoned trying to figure out how to get outside :P
17:29:17 <Carson> its annoying smoking outside all the time
17:29:20 <Carson> gets too damn cold
17:29:29 <ash^> ahh, you just need to wear warmer clothes
17:29:32 <ash^> double pants it up
17:29:33 <Carson> i need to get my house purchase moving along
17:29:36 <ash^> plus gloves/beanie if necessary
17:29:44 <Carson> i had jeans, a t shirt, and 2 jackets last night
17:30:00 <ash^> your jackets were too thin
17:30:03 <Carson> the gloves are definately a help (i used yours when you got hot playing bottle soccer)
17:30:11 <Carson> my second jacket was quite thick
17:30:12 <ash^> haha
17:30:29 <Carson> i think double pants + gloves + what i was wearing last night will be adequate
17:30:50 <ash^> i had a scarfe in my car too if it gets that cold
17:30:56 <Carson> haha
17:31:05 <ash^> but usually im really warm cos i wear thermal skivvy/pants
17:31:45 <ash^> hey taliesin, what did anthony do last night?
17:32:49 <JarZ> [05:10] <ash^> which woolworths are you applying at andr - all of the ones close to me - marion, unley, mitcham
17:33:46 <ash^> what else could we do carson?
17:33:51 <JarZ> Carson, you need to gain weight
17:33:53 <JarZ> that'll keep you warm
17:33:54 <JarZ> lol
17:34:06 <damian> weee
17:34:12 <damian> you'll be cool like me, and get a 5% discount card
17:34:23 <Carson> its true...
17:34:31 <Carson> my recently bought shares are going horribly :(
17:34:33 <Carson> http://unrelated.net.au/shares.php
17:35:21 <JarZ> :\
17:35:35 <JarZ> you've gotta stop treating shares as a savings account, imo
17:35:37 <ash^> ARG is going damn well
17:35:45 <Carson> yeah, but thats 8 years old :D
17:35:48 <ash^> since when have you been buying shares?
17:36:02 <Carson> i've actually got another 5000 arg shares, they're not in that list yet though
17:36:07 <ash^> also who are those companies?
17:36:09 <Carson> sorry, $5000 worh
17:36:21 <damian> how much money have you invested in shares?
17:36:21 <JarZ> 1,508.00 in 8 years isnt that good :\
17:36:23 <JarZ> ntb though
17:36:35 <Carson> considering how much i put in, its not too bad
17:36:42 <Carson> and remember, i was like 15 at the time
17:36:45 <Carson> thats alot of money
17:36:45 <JarZ> so you've got about $17k in shares atm?
17:36:47 <JarZ> true
17:37:00 <Carson> yeah, about that
17:37:11 <Carson> the $5000 was the buying price... so it'd be more than that now
17:37:17 <JarZ> sifnt buy house
17:37:32 <Carson> amazingly, its not enough
17:37:41 <Carson> need about $30,000 to do it comfortably
17:37:48 <ash^> Carson.buy(new House());
17:37:50 <Carson> enough for deposit, and buying furniture/appliances
17:37:52 <JarZ> lol
17:37:57 <JarZ> yeah
17:38:20 <Carson> i can almost do it
17:38:34 <Carson> actually, i could pull it off right now if i really wanted... but i don't feel quite ready
17:38:46 <JarZ> yeah fair call
17:39:20 <ash^> did you buy all of those shares yourself?
17:39:27 <Carson> yeah, s'all my money
17:39:29 <JarZ> if you're really keen on moving out, you should start browsing for stuff
17:39:38 <ash^> wow, well done
17:39:40 <Carson> the first ones in 1998 were from the dollarmites thing at school
17:39:41 <JarZ> stuff like furniture, appliances, etc
17:40:19 <ash^> i really should have developed some assets with all the working i've done, but oh well, i ended up spending all my money on travel
17:40:31 <Carson> ohh, i forgot.. i've still got almost 8k debt for bank loan
17:40:48 <Carson> i can pay that off instantly without penalty, but that means i lose 8k
17:41:05 <JarZ> i have nothing to show from all of the working i've done :(
17:41:07 <Carson> i'm currently putting 1k per month into that, so early next year i'll probably move out
17:41:16 <Carson> neither do i really
17:41:21 <JarZ> well, nothing significant. i've got my car, and that's about it
17:41:31 <JarZ> Carson; i have no savings either though. you have shitloads
17:41:47 <Carson> not really
17:41:57 <Carson> you have to remember i got a 10k loan a few months ago
17:42:07 <ash^> what did you get a loan for?
17:42:09 <Carson> and the rest of it is basically just because i earn more
17:42:19 <JarZ> so $9k cash vs nothing
17:42:22 <JarZ> i think you win.
17:42:30 <Carson> basically got a loan to prove that i can pay back a debt... and with that money i decided to put it into the share marker
17:42:33 <Carson> market
17:42:44 <JarZ> also, i was working full time for ages before you started working
17:42:45 <Carson> bit of negative gearing never goes astray...
17:42:46 <damian> lol
17:42:49 <Carson> at least not in my case
17:42:53 <damian> i have ~$1000 savings
17:43:04 <ash^> um, so what's the interest rate on the loan?
17:43:11 <JarZ> wait, i shouldn't even say 'nothing' for me.. i'm actually in debt
17:43:22 <Carson> can't remember exactly, something like 12% iirc
17:43:35 <damian> i need to go for a car loan soonish
17:43:42 <Carson> but thats almost irrelevant, as i plan on paying it off in approx 8 months
17:43:42 <damian> get myself somethign that's not going to die
17:44:22 <JarZ> 8 months? that'll still be what... $1000?ish in interest
17:44:25 <Taliesin> thats heaps good carson
17:44:31 <JarZ> uh interest + fees
17:45:02 <Carson> it could be.. but to me, at this point in time, its irrelevant :D
17:45:32 <Carson> hopefully when i sell these shares, they would have made me over $1000... although thats unlikely
17:45:39 <Carson> but still, i plan to somewhat break even
17:45:45 <Taliesin> ash; i ended up waiting with anthony until around 5:30 and he caught the first bus home
17:45:53 <JarZ> see you're never going to save money with that kind of attitude :\
17:46:06 <JarZ> because every little bit DOES matter, and it does add up heaps quicker than you'd think
17:46:24 <Carson> yeah, but i'm going along fine
17:46:30 <damian> lol
17:46:39 <damian> yuh, it does :P
17:46:44 <Carson> if i was having trouble saving, i would have done it differently, but i'm not, so now i'm doing it express
17:46:56 <damian> you'd think that going to maccas every now and then wouldn't break your budget
17:46:58 <JarZ> lol
17:46:59 <Carson> it forces me to save 10k, and sacrifice 1k
17:47:18 <damian> i've stopped doing it over the last month and fully got into the saving money thing, that's where the $1k's come from :P~
17:47:23 <Carson> which is better than me just wasting another 35k of my earnings and having nothing to show
17:47:34 <JarZ> true
17:48:31 <ash^> are you making regular payments on it?
17:48:40 <JarZ> k going out now bye
17:48:53 <ash^> i guess its good if you pay it off and then you still have all your shares
17:49:02 <ash^> especially if the shares do well
17:49:26 <ash^> damian: yeah buying takeaway food costs heaps
17:49:49 <ash^> when i used to work i would buy maccas or kfc every day
17:51:08 <damian> yuh, kills your income :P
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17:59:13 <Carson> i still buy that atm
17:59:25 <Carson> i just cbf making/taking food for work
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18:04:59 <damian> i just buy it when i'm running late and dont have time to have something before i go
18:16:02 <thegoldenone_25> carson...
18:21:56 <Carson> yes emma?
18:22:58 <Taliesin> anyone here use azureus for bittorent?
18:24:21 <Carson> naa, i still use abc
18:24:29 <Carson> apparently azureus is really good though
18:24:32 <Carson> especially with plugins
18:24:33 <Carson> :D
18:37:53 <thegoldenone_25> carson where r u?
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19:00:19 <Carson> i was eating dinner...
19:07:04 <thegoldenone_25> oh
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19:29:11 <Simulacrum> Carson: You remember what that site you used for windows updates was?
19:31:02 <Carson> ohh, the non-windows update windows update?
19:31:58 <Simulacrum> yeah
19:32:58 <Carson> windowsupdate.62nds.com
19:33:29 <Carson> i was searching for 'windaz' bit its 'windiz'
19:33:32 <Carson> so close!
19:38:12 <Carson> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=windows+update+for+firefox&btnG=Search
19:38:23 <Carson> thats what i searched for though... first result
19:39:10 <Simulacrum> yeah
19:39:12 <Simulacrum> thanks :)
19:46:26 <Taliesin> i just updated windows and now when its starting up it comes up with a big thing saying that im a victim of piracy and that i dont have a real version of windows lol
19:48:46 <Carson> lol
19:48:47 <Carson> sucked in.
19:49:27 <Carson> i'm amazed you can login
19:56:20 <Dylan> hey
19:56:26 <Carson> lo
19:56:49 <Dylan> mirc is very active tonight
19:57:59 <Carson> yeah, i'm bored at home :)
19:59:12 <Taliesin> hey
20:00:47 <thegoldenone_25> CARSON u wont be bored soon so shhh up
20:01:26 <Carson> :D
20:04:32 <thegoldenone_25> =P
20:11:32 <Taliesin> ash; what time you want to head into uni?
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21:18:41 <ash^> oi
21:18:42 <ash^> you guys
21:18:46 <ash^> there's a massive boxing match on tonight
21:18:47 <ash^> mundine
21:18:50 <ash^> i think in like half an hour
21:18:56 <Taliesin> yeah
21:18:56 <ash^> you wanna race off to a sports bar and watch it
21:18:58 <Taliesin> against green
21:19:04 <Taliesin> yeah alright
21:19:15 <ash^> do you reckon we could catch it on the avenues?
21:19:18 <ash^> at*
21:19:29 <Taliesin> dont know
21:19:35 <Taliesin> worth a try
21:21:59 <Dylan> they need foxtel
21:22:12 <Dylan> which avenues is unlikely to have
21:22:16 <ash^> hm
21:22:25 <ash^> oh well
21:22:29 <ash^> tis too late probably
21:22:38 <ash^> plus boxing aint that good
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22:46:27 <stefan> hah, great timing
22:46:30 <stefan> just got an email from hitech
22:46:30 <stefan> ACER, LATEST LAPTOPS
22:46:31 <stefan> � NEW value Celeron (TM-2434)
22:46:31 <stefan> � NEW value Pentium (TM-4072)
22:47:42 <stefan> but 4072 is the lowest M, and still $1450 :\
22:47:48 <stefan> at least