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18:05:00 <Glenn> Hey PopularLooner!
18:07:00 <Glenn> Hey Clay.. you ignoring me ? ? ?
18:07:00 <Glenn> 3*** PopularLooner was kicked by ChanOP ([ChanOP] Now that felt really good!)
18:07:00 <Glenn> :)))
18:07:00 <PopularLooner> you glen
18:07:00 <PopularLooner> yo
18:08:00 <Glenn> heeheehee... :))
18:09:00 <PopularLooner> man im so hungry
18:09:00 <PopularLooner> gonna gcook
18:09:00 <PopularLooner> brb
18:09:00 <Glenn> OK...
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19:15:00 <Sinn> hey hey
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19:16:00 <Sinn> anyone?
19:17:00 <Sinn> ok guess not
19:18:00 <Glenn> Hey clay!
19:18:00 TiTuS is now known as TiTuS|eat
19:18:00 <TiTuS|eat> yeah sup
19:18:00 <TiTuS|eat> gotta eat
19:18:00 <TiTuS|eat> just finish cookin
19:19:00 <Glenn> OK...
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19:21:00 <cheekyface> hi all:)
19:23:00 <Sinn> oh well guess i'll head off then
19:23:00 <Sinn> bye
19:24:00 <Glenn> Hi!
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19:26:00 <First_love> hi kev
19:26:00 <Xquis8> hey !
19:26:00 <First_love> keke
19:26:00 <First_love> hows your weekend?
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19:27:00 <cheekyface> first time meeting u i tink
19:27:00 <cheekyface> im from singapore
19:27:00 <cheekyface> r u a HongKOnger?
19:27:00 <Glenn> Serves you right! I'm from Australia! Welcome! :))
19:27:00 <Glenn> bu shi.. wo shi ao da li ya ren... one of the "blue-eyed variety"... :))
19:27:00 <cheekyface> wow
19:27:00 <Xquis8> yeh good thanks...u?
19:27:00 <Xquis8> urs?
19:27:00 <First_love> ok
19:27:00 <First_love> ehhe
19:27:00 <Xquis8> wat did u do?
19:28:00 <cheekyface> ni shi ao zhou ren?
19:28:00 <cheekyface> na ni shi lan yan mei huo lan yan xiong?
19:28:00 <cheekyface> lol
19:28:00 <cheekyface> Glenn, u still here or not?
19:28:00 <First_love> temple not much else u?
19:28:00 <Xquis8> hey which temple ?
19:29:00 <Glenn> Yes.. still here.
19:29:00 <cheekyface> so u australian or austrian?
19:29:00 <Glenn> ni nan ren hai shi nu ren?
19:29:00 <cheekyface> ni shuo ne?
19:29:00 <Glenn> ..ao zhuo...
19:29:00 <cheekyface> ao zhou
19:29:00 <cheekyface> okie
19:29:00 <First_love> ct
19:29:00 <First_love> collins st
19:29:00 <First_love> why?
19:30:00 <Glenn> ...ah huh... :)))
19:30:00 <cheekyface> huhhuh
19:30:00 <cheekyface> :)0000
19:30:00 <cheekyface> wo shi xiao mei mei
19:30:00 <cheekyface> hw old r u?
19:30:00 <cheekyface> which part of australia fr?
19:31:00 <cheekyface> u typing hanyu pinyin 2 me izzit?
19:31:00 * Glenn is a country lad from Traralgon, about 160 kilometres out in the countryside east of Melbourne, Australia, where you can't see the air that you're breathing!
19:31:00 <cheekyface> oic
19:31:00 <cheekyface> i went to melbourne last year
19:31:00 <cheekyface> nice place
19:31:00 <cheekyface> stayed at St Kilda
19:31:00 <Glenn> ...xiao mei mei? wo shi ni de ge ge! :))
19:31:00 <cheekyface> hahaha
19:31:00 <cheekyface> ni ji sui?
19:31:00 <Glenn> Not too bad.. rarely go there.
19:31:00 <cheekyface> hmm
19:31:00 <Glenn> ...ah huh...
19:31:00 <Glenn> Very old... !
19:32:00 <cheekyface> u learning chinese
19:32:00 <cheekyface> tell me leh
19:32:00 <cheekyface> mayb i older
19:32:00 <cheekyface> r u a regular in this channel?
19:32:00 <Xquis8> oh i didnt knkow where da closest one was
19:33:00 <Glenn> ....er, I do not think so... I'm a fully paid up member of "The Old Farts Club"... and also a teacher.
19:33:00 <cheekyface> oic
19:33:00 <cheekyface> teacher
19:33:00 <cheekyface> *Cheeky salutes to teacher*
19:33:00 <First_love> there is a new one at collins st
19:33:00 <First_love> its really really nice too
19:34:00 <cheekyface> lol
19:34:00 <cheekyface> old farts club
19:34:00 <cheekyface> u married?
19:34:00 <Glenn> Yes... you?
19:34:00 <cheekyface> nope
19:34:00 <cheekyface> me only 21
19:34:00 <Glenn> ....mmmmm... OK!
19:35:00 <cheekyface> so r married but available?
19:35:00 <cheekyface> which level r u teaching?
19:35:00 <TiTuS> fark its boring
19:36:00 <Glenn> University... Engineering
19:36:00 <cheekyface> wow
19:36:00 <cheekyface> jiao shou
19:36:00 <cheekyface> lol
19:36:00 <cheekyface> i can be ur student
19:36:00 <Glenn> I do not think so... not really my job but simply do that as well.
19:36:00 <cheekyface> okay
19:36:00 <Xquis8> where abouts on collins?
19:36:00 <TiTuS> whats this?
19:36:00 <TiTuS> whats on collins st?
19:36:00 <First_love> hmmm its at a corner
19:36:00 <Glenn_eat`n> ...ah huh...
19:37:00 <cheekyface> hw many kids do u have?
19:37:00 <Glenn> I'm supposed to be a systems analyst/network manager...
19:37:00 <cheekyface> oicc
19:37:00 <cheekyface> really, hw old r u?
19:37:00 <Glenn> Very... not an Australian custom to discuss ages...
19:37:00 <First_love> its call some exhibition shit
19:37:00 <First_love> but the temple there is really really cool have to say
19:37:00 <Xquis8> wat time does it close?
19:37:00 <First_love> it opens 7 days a week
19:37:00 <First_love> not sure but its really a good place to visit
19:38:00 <cheekyface> izzit
19:38:00 <cheekyface> but im not Australian so u can discuss with me
19:38:00 <cheekyface> :)
19:38:00 <cheekyface> okay...above 40?
19:38:00 <Xquis8> yep
19:38:00 <Xquis8> ive been meaning to go to one....except didnt want to goto chingvale or foostcray
19:38:00 <Xquis8> lol
19:39:00 <cheekyface> juz nid to tell me yes or no
19:39:00 <cheekyface> which uni r u working at?
19:39:00 <Glenn> Monash...
19:39:00 <cheekyface> hmm
19:39:00 <Glenn> ...ah huh...
19:39:00 <cheekyface> famous uni
19:39:00 <First_love> there is another in yarraville
19:39:00 <Xquis8> stuff dat
19:39:00 <Xquis8> haha
19:40:00 <cheekyface> wat do u like to do during ur free time?
19:40:00 <First_love> too far eh?
19:40:00 <Xquis8> yeh
19:41:00 <Glenn> Relaxing... :))
19:41:00 <cheekyface> or is that not veri australian to discuss too?
19:41:00 <cheekyface> wah liao
19:41:00 <cheekyface> hahaha
19:41:00 <cheekyface> yeah
19:42:00 <cheekyface> who dun like?
19:42:00 <cheekyface> best answer
19:42:00 <cheekyface> me like sleeping
19:43:00 <Glenn> heeheehee... typical stoodent pastime...!
19:43:00 <cheekyface> u seem veri distracted
19:43:00 <cheekyface> yeah
19:43:00 <cheekyface> but singaporeans suffering from " Not enough sleep" syndrome
19:43:00 <cheekyface> have u been to singapore?
19:43:00 <Glenn> Explaining info about Nokia 'phone logo's and ring tones to a friend...
19:44:00 <Glenn> Nope... but have friends living there...
19:44:00 <cheekyface> ic
19:44:00 <cheekyface> okie
19:44:00 <cheekyface> hmm
19:44:00 <Glenn> ...ah huh...
19:44:00 <cheekyface> i thot explaining to ur kids
19:44:00 <Glenn> Supposed to be a lot like HongKong... 'cept cleaner. I'eve been to HK several times... and China to study.
19:44:00 <cheekyface> r they singaporeans or expatriates?
19:44:00 <cheekyface> no wonder
19:45:00 <cheekyface> but dun u dislike chinese?
19:45:00 <Glenn> ...singaporeans
19:45:00 <cheekyface> okie
19:45:00 <Glenn> Nope... why, are they a problem?
19:45:00 <cheekyface> i am a chinese
19:45:00 <cheekyface> but somehow
19:45:00 <cheekyface> when i went to australia last year
19:45:00 <Glenn> Sorta guessed that... only Chinese ppl's can speak Chinese...
19:46:00 <Glenn> ...yes?
19:46:00 <cheekyface> alot of australians dun seem to like us bcoz of our colour
19:46:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmm... wouldn't know too much about that...
19:47:00 <cheekyface> serious
19:47:00 <cheekyface> even on the airplane we can tell
19:47:00 <cheekyface> coz we were travelling on Qantas
19:47:00 <Glenn> I've experience rascim in China... of all places. Not nice... I'd be surprised if you had problems in Australia... especially in the major cities...
19:47:00 <cheekyface> i got dat in Melbourne
19:48:00 <cheekyface> and from the flight attendants
19:48:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmm... I've only flown Qantas once... wouldn't bother again. Very rude...
19:48:00 <cheekyface> yeah racism is everwhere
19:48:00 <cheekyface> my caucasian travel partners have to ask for drinks on my behalf
19:49:00 <Glenn> Prefer Phillipine or China Eastern (...now there's adventure!) or Cathay Pacific... but forget Qantas!
19:49:00 <cheekyface> and the air steward shook my fren off
19:49:00 <cheekyface> he was only nice to the caucasian travellers
19:49:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmmm... that's disappointing...
19:50:00 <cheekyface> yes
19:50:00 <cheekyface> but we chinese r also very racist
19:51:00 <cheekyface> calling the malays pigs and caucasians ang moh guis
19:52:00 <Glenn> On my last trip back from China i\on China Eastern, I was the only caucasian (Aussie?) on board, the immigration cards were only in Chinese, the stewardesses could only speak Chinese... and I ended up having to translate/explain to a couple of groups of Chinese ppl's the meaning of the stuffs mentioned in the immigration/customs cards... thoroughly enjoyed myself... 'cept Chinese language newspapers give me a headache.. :((
19:53:00 <Glenn> In China, I was always refered to as "da bi zi"... or "wei guo ren"... Oh well... it didn't bother me....
19:53:00 <cheekyface> wow
19:54:00 <cheekyface> but Asian airlines r very good to caucasians
19:54:00 <Glenn> ...nah... never had that problem... :)))
19:54:00 <cheekyface> how long were u in china?
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19:55:00 <Glenn> Even in the 100% Chinnese restaraunts in Melbourne where even the menus are in Chinese, I've always been treated well. Prefer the yum cha resaraunts... get a good feed and doesn't cost much.
19:56:00 <cheekyface> we had a hard time swallowing the chinese food in tasmania
19:57:00 <Glenn> Did (survived) a saturation 2nd year Arts major (language/history) a few years ago... was there for three months and the course here in Australia would have been 12 months. Nearly ended up being a vegie after that... had to teach Engineering classes 2 days after leaving NanJing University... and not having had a decent conversation in English all that time.
19:57:00 <cheekyface> but the HongKOnger-operated chinese restaurant in melbourne is fantastic
19:58:00 <cheekyface> hahah
19:58:00 <cheekyface> i think some of the australians in australi a we met were surprised to hear us speaking in english
19:58:00 <Glenn> There's a whole spectrum of Chinese restaraunts in Melbourne... HongKong, and various mainland Chinese...
19:59:00 <cheekyface> yeah
19:59:00 <cheekyface> but quite few singaporeans there
19:59:00 <cheekyface> cept for those students
19:59:00 <Glenn> Yeah... we're sorta used to Chinese looking ppl's not speaking English very well....
19:59:00 <cheekyface> u no what the apartment manager told me?
20:00:00 <Glenn> HongKong ppl's will almost ALWAYS speak Cantonese... even in front of you... very bad manners here in Australia.
20:00:00 <cheekyface> " Your english is very good"
20:00:00 <Glenn> ...no, wot?
20:00:00 <cheekyface> lol
20:00:00 <Glenn> Oh well... probably doesn't know that English is first language in Singapore...
20:00:00 <cheekyface> yeah
20:01:00 <cheekyface> but mine is considered broken
20:01:00 <cheekyface> hahaha
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20:01:00 <Glenn> ...mmmmm...
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20:01:00 <cheekyface> i think datz becoz the Hong Kongers r used to conversing with each other in Cantonese
20:02:00 <Glenn> When I started studying Chinese as a hobby only, about 6 years ago, it was 6 months before I found out that the reason I still couldn't understand what stoodents in my classes were saying was because they were speaking Cantonese and I was learning Mandarin. I though I was l;earning Chinese... :((
20:03:00 <cheekyface> lol
20:03:00 <Glenn> Yeah, I can laugh about it too now... was very shocked at the time... mainly at my own ignorance... :((
20:03:00 <cheekyface> however
20:04:00 <cheekyface> i think singaporeans r viewed as a disgrace to chinese at times
20:04:00 <Glenn> ....nah... :))
20:04:00 <cheekyface> i mean the chinese here
20:05:00 <cheekyface> coz we can hardly speak mandarin well
20:05:00 <cheekyface> esp our younger ones
20:05:00 <Matchbox_20> hey all
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20:06:00 <cheekyface> hello
20:06:00 <Glenn> Oh... I don't know about that... my Singaporean students seem to handle Mandarin OK... I'm not looking forward to next year when I will have a group of five stoodents... from Sg and China to deal with as I've already had to explain to them in no uncertain words about speaking Chinese in classes...
20:06:00 <cheekyface> im new here
20:06:00 <Glenn> HI Ridge555!
20:07:00 <Ridge555> hi
20:07:00 <cheekyface> ic
20:07:00 <cheekyface> u mean ur singaporean students speak to each other in mandarin?
20:07:00 <cheekyface> or to the Chinese
20:07:00 <Glenn> ...gives me a headache switching languages mid-stream... and other stoodents in the class don't understand anyway.
20:07:00 <cheekyface> yeah
20:08:00 <Glenn> Yeah... 3 Sg's and 2 mainland Chinese...
20:08:00 <cheekyface> okie
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20:09:00 <Glenn> Had two Malasian Chinese stoodents in 3rd year doing the same thing... until they realised that I understood a little over half of what they were talking about...
20:09:00 <cheekyface> lol
20:09:00 <cheekyface> hahaha
20:10:00 <cheekyface> yeah
20:10:00 <cheekyface> so my class always speak in hokkien when our american lecturer is ard
20:11:00 <Glenn> I think I gave the game away when early in the semester, I moved to oneside of the white board I was writing notes on and in vertical Chinese characters, asked them NOT to speak Chinese in my class... before moving back to where I was before and continuing with the note writing.
20:11:00 <cheekyface> when we want to scold them
20:11:00 <cheekyface> we speak in hokkien
20:11:00 <cheekyface> hw do u find singaporean students?
20:11:00 <Glenn> Nope... don't understand Hokkien...
20:11:00 <Glenn> OK... a little "height challenged" perhaps...
20:11:00 <cheekyface> tats the point
20:12:00 <cheekyface> hahaah
20:12:00 <cheekyface> we dun want them to understand mah
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20:13:00 <cheekyface> coz singaporeans r short?
20:13:00 <Glenn> Did the same trick a few years ago to some HongKong stoodents... had them bluffed 'cos the could read what I wrote... but were never sure if I understood what they were saying... especially when I reacted to the magic "PK" expression in common use in Hong Kong...
20:14:00 <cheekyface> lol
20:14:00 <Glenn> ...nah... not all Singaporeans are short...
20:14:00 <cheekyface> but singaporeans students r very playful right?
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20:15:00 <Glenn> Very studious is probably a better generalised description...
20:15:00 <cheekyface> kiasu is the best term
20:16:00 <Glenn> Well, I gotta go nw.. but amny thanks for the chat... you'll have to call in more often!
20:16:00 <cheekyface> same here
20:16:00 <Glenn> `voice cheekyface
20:16:00 <cheekyface> take card and have a great weekend
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20:16:00 <Glenn> Take care! :))
20:16:00 <cheekyface> titus and ridge
20:16:00 <Glenn> ...and thanks!