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01:20:06 <arch> how do you do, fellow man boobs?
01:32:28 <steve30> !coffee
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03:18:08 <arch> GTA 5 in real life: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7l3d7dpw2o
03:18:08 <EEVBot> [url] Seven California men charged in 'largest jewellery heist' in US history | www.bbc.com
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05:36:33 <steve30> Interesting video about our p0lice foce :)
05:36:35 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6B_bSyc1U
05:36:35 <EEVBot> Temporary error talking to YouTube: [SYS] unknown error (_ssl.c:2638)
05:36:47 <steve30> *force
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06:52:20 <MrMobodies> My dad was looking at these electric cars, called "SUVS"
06:52:28 <MrMobodies> and that they're big etc/
06:53:04 <rust_collector> well, they are not really big, they just waste a lot of space
06:53:12 <MrMobodies> many of them being reivewed on Youtube were not big
06:53:22 <MrMobodies> they're just tall but short in lenth
06:53:47 <MrMobodies> and "back seats is squishy" I hear in many of them
06:54:13 <MrMobodies> Why do they call them suvs when they are no way as near as long
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06:55:03 <rust_collector> sport utility vehicle. it does not say anything about being long
06:55:32 <MrMobodies> I mean the "electric" ones he was looking at
06:55:39 <MrMobodies> they seem very short
06:55:46 <MrMobodies> in length
06:56:04 <MrMobodies> where the backseats don't have much leg room
06:56:16 <rust_collector> well, you asked why they were called suv, even if they are short. but length does not have anything to do with being a suv
06:57:04 <MrMobodies> maybe it is the recommendations from Youtube
06:57:13 <MrMobodies> the cars just seem short
06:57:14 <MrMobodies> https://www.carwow.co.uk/electric-cars/suv
06:57:15 <EEVBot> [url] Best Electric SUVs in the UK for 2025 | Carwow | www.carwow.co.uk
06:57:20 <MrMobodies> 6. Citroen e-C3
06:57:25 <MrMobodies> I think that was one of them
06:57:31 <MrMobodies> squashed up back seat
06:58:24 <rust_collector> that is because the cars they looked at are short. but not many cars have good leg room in the back any more, imo.
06:58:27 <MrMobodies> but I notice some regular sized ones like double in price
07:06:36 <MrMobodies> Cooking down now, it was 27c an hour ago when I got back
07:07:10 <MrMobodies> now 22x
07:07:29 <rust_collector> 27.... I would move south, if it was 27
07:09:27 <MrMobodies> For more heat or colder weather?
07:09:54 <MrMobodies> on Satutday it is going to be 33c
07:09:55 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/DILapy9.png
07:11:14 <rust_collector> if you go far enough south, it is really nice and cold
07:11:54 <rust_collector> i do not like it when it is more than 25, and that is when I am not doing anything
07:15:02 <arch> lmao i was checking on reddit if wheel bearings off ebay can be trusted, and came across this golden comment thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/14o6865/comment/jqba7nx/
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08:48:45 <steve30> i miss the CD player programme from Windows 98
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09:42:02 <MrMobodies> It'a 00:40 and it's 19.5c out there
09:42:22 <MrMobodies> that's like the hot humid weather late last year
09:42:51 <MrMobodies> I've got my window and utility door open with the big fan
09:43:03 <MrMobodies> I brought from my bedroom
09:43:26 <MrMobodies> and no torment with insects thanks to the magnetic netting
09:43:42 <MrMobodies> 160w Duo electric fan
09:44:56 <MrMobodies> 25.6 in here but hopefully to drop soon
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13:38:59 <MrMobodies> Hello
13:39:09 <MrMobodies> Anyone know anything about pet chickens?
13:51:46 <MrMobodies> One article here says they can recover from flu:
13:51:47 <MrMobodies> https://www.petmd.com/bird/conditions/respiratory/c_bd_Avian_Influenza
13:51:47 <EEVBot> [url] Bird Flu in Birds | PetMD | www.petmd.com
13:52:12 <MrMobodies> a low strain of it
13:54:02 <MrMobodies> then thi
13:54:04 <MrMobodies> https://vets.blog.gov.uk/2024/08/22/new-mandatory-bird-registration-what-do-keepers-need-to-know/
13:54:04 <EEVBot> [url] New mandatory bird registration: what do keepers need to know – Government Vets | vets.blog.gov.uk
13:54:40 <MrMobodies> aaha I misread "high pathogenic avian flu"
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16:24:03 <K> hello billing apis
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16:30:28 <Kuschelpony> Moin
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16:37:07 <krish2487> morning fellas!
16:37:21 <krish2487> !coffee
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16:50:22 <K> top of the morning to you sir!
16:58:44 <electrohead> !caffeine
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16:58:47 <electrohead> :/
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17:51:19 <Kuschelpony> Moin
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20:28:18 <MrMobodies> Just found a piled off bullshit I had been reading through
20:28:19 <MrMobodies> https://jme.bmj.com/content/49/2/92
20:28:21 <EEVBot> [url] Barriers to green inhaler prescribing: ethical issues in environmentally sustainable clinical practice | Journal of Medical Ethics | jme.bmj.com
20:29:03 <MrMobodies> the way the language is used to blame the patient when it doesn't work or using it wrongly,
20:29:26 <MrMobodies> and slipping the word "environmental" in the trust relationship
20:30:06 <MrMobodies> and if it don't work for the patient and the patient reverts, that patient is "harming" the environment, and the doctor then has a moral duty to override "patient choice" etc.
20:31:48 <MrMobodies> "I argue that while a patient is not morally justified in refusing a more environmentally sustainable"... patient it wrong and no reason to refuse...
20:33:03 <MrMobodies> I see "ethics" in there but where is the ethics if the patient can't breathe and in an emergency.
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20:38:50 <MrMobodies> "DPIs present a viable alternative to MDIs because they have a substantially smaller carbon footprint and they are similarly effective"
20:39:10 <MrMobodies> How can he argue that they are similarly effective when the propellant is not there
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20:42:32 <MrMobodies> looking at his Linkedin profile he isn't even a doctor, no medical experience, just a manager, administration and supploes
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21:00:40 <MrMobodies> Looking up some information on a microcontroller
21:00:53 <MrMobodies> I find something here: https://www.tanotis.com/products/microchip-at91sam7x256c-au-at91sam7x256c-au-arm-mcu-sam32-family-at91sam7x-series-microcontrollers-arm7tdmi-32-bit-55-mhz-256-kb
21:00:53 <EEVBot> [url] Microchip AT91SAM7X256C-AU AT91SAM7X256C-AU ARM MCU SAM32 Family AT91SAM7X Series Microcontrollers ARM7TDMI 32 bit 55 MHz 256 KB India – Tanotis | www.tanotis.com
21:01:07 <MrMobodies> to be redirected: Access denied
21:01:13 <MrMobodies> https://p.boostmarkstatic.com/pages/401.html
21:01:13 <EEVBot> [url] Access Denied | p.boostmarkstatic.com
21:01:33 <MrMobodies> that's not nice
21:01:59 <MrMobodies> it works when I disable CSS and doesn't redirect
21:05:18 <MrMobodies> I see it is from India, making sense, it got hijacked, they used an intermediary to redirect and the URL got taken down
21:08:00 <MrMobodies> Ublock logger: /bm-country-blocker-ip-blocker-60 absolutely disgusting
21:20:39 <Ampera> time to contemplate what death-dapter I want to buy odd amazon for my travels to Germany.
21:21:18 <Ampera> They make German Schuko to NEMA 5-15 adapters, but they're dangerous since 5-15 is inherently polarized and Schuko isn't.
21:21:46 <Ampera> I don't think any of my devices are going to need a ground pin, so I might simply get ungrounded unpolarized europlug adapters, even if they're cheaper and smaller
21:21:54 <Ampera> I mostly just need it for USB-C chargers since all of my stuff is USB based
21:23:40 <Kuschelpony> Ampera, you might also consider to just buy an safe USB power supply locally here
21:24:09 <Ampera> Kuschelpony, the problem then is that I will only ever be able to use it in Europe. Those power supplies are expensive, and ideally I'd be able to use multiple.
21:24:24 <Kuschelpony> but to my knowedge all of them are safety classII which means full isolation and they have no "L"&"N" but can be plugged in arbitrarily
21:24:31 <Kuschelpony> understood
21:25:58 <Ampera> Pretty much all of my chargers are unpolarized NEMA 1-15 and won't draw more than 60-90W
21:26:04 <Ampera> so a cheap europlug adapter is proooobably fine
21:26:59 <Ampera> It also means if I visit somewhere that does not use the German style Schuko, like France or Switzerland, I can still use my chargers
21:30:11 <Kuschelpony> if your adapter has an europlug, it will naturally fit in France and Switzerland and several other countries
21:30:52 <Kuschelpony> also we dont use the Schuko anymore, its been replaced since decades with the CEE7/7 that fits Schuko and France sockets
21:33:30 <Ampera> Kuschelpony, I thought Schuko was just the common name for the German style of CEE plug/outlet
21:34:38 <Kuschelpony> its a bit blurry
21:34:56 <Kuschelpony> "Schuko" is originally 100something years ago the brand name for the german system
21:35:35 <Kuschelpony> later the french came with their own system of "Schutzkontakt"="Protective earth"
21:36:18 <Kuschelpony> both were united as the CEE7/7 which has both, the hole for the french pin as well as the side surfaces for the german plug
21:37:41 <Kuschelpony> and then there was the idea of a small lightweight 2,5A plug for double-isolated appliances that fits in amost every european socket, german; french; italian; swiss and many more (if you do hacky things then you can also ram it into british sockets)
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21:55:52 <Ampera> Kuschelpony, ahh, I see. In a sense it'd be like calling our NEMA plugs "Hubbel" plugs
21:56:12 <Kuschelpony> hmmm now that i know that name, i think yes
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22:15:50 <K> Ampera, you could buy one in Europe and add the US converter and use it as such
22:16:02 <K> not super practical, but an option
22:17:02 <Ampera> K, yeah but that's basically the same problem but in reverse, and worse if I end up staying in the US
22:17:25 <Ampera> I also have a ton of USB-C chargers already, so it makes no sense to get more
22:17:49 <Ampera> One problem I will have is I have a hair iron that I used to style my hair, and naturally it only works on 120V US power
22:18:01 <Ampera> or at least it will get very hot exactly once on EU power
22:18:21 <Ampera> so I may have to order one just for use in Germany
22:19:17 <K> or you could just buy one there
22:19:31 <Ampera> well yes, that's what I'm saying
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22:19:45 <Ampera> but I then am buying an appliance that I can only use for a month, lol
22:21:34 <K> you could take it back with you and use it to keep your tea warm
22:21:44 <K> or soup
22:22:01 <K> or porridge
22:22:18 <K> (shudders)
22:43:39 <arch> lol
22:44:13 <arch> or you could buy a 2:1 transformer
22:56:30 <Ampera> arch, yes because hauling a heavy transformer in my suitcase is an ideal use of luggage allowance :P
22:59:07 <Kuschelpony> Ampera, i would be glad to be your pack-horse to move it :)
23:03:36 <Ampera> lol
23:04:01 <Ampera> Kuschelpony, I will be in NRW and probably some nearby areas and cities and maybe countries for all of August
23:04:15 <Ampera> no sweat, but if you happen to be strolling by I wouldn't mind meeting for lunch or something and saying hallo
23:05:08 <Kuschelpony> hmmm NRW is diagonally opposite to where i live, but the date might to visit Schwelm as i want to get gear there
23:05:26 <Kuschelpony> might match
23:05:49 <Kuschelpony> from there i can invite you to visit Wuppertal and its monorail suspended train
23:08:50 <Ampera> Kuschelpony, I definitely want to see the Schwebebahn.
23:10:02 <Ampera> If my flights from PLAY airlines weren't all canceled, I'd have landed in Dusseldorf, and would've been able to take their H-Bahn at the airport.
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