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00:03:43 <electrohead> Following the link Halcyon sent earlier:
00:03:45 <electrohead> > On January 10, 2024, Ivanti published a security advisory regarding two vulnerabilities in Ivanti Connect Secure VPN.
00:04:06 <electrohead> Ivannti, eh? I love how certain timelines just magically add up, lol
00:04:18 <electrohead> !caffeine
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00:28:16 <Ysjoelfir> !caffeine
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00:28:22 <Ysjoelfir> meh. thats ok-ish
00:33:38 <K> !sausage Ysjoelfir
00:33:50 * Ysjoelfir eats a chili sausage
00:33:57 <K> acceptable.
00:36:57 * Ysjoelfir treadmills harder to work off that sausage again
00:44:51 * T3sl4 flings another sausage at Ysjoelfir
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00:57:41 <electrohead> your meat so sexy
00:57:52 <electrohead> (hear that in the borat voice lol)
00:58:02 <T3sl4> GREAT SUCCESS!!
00:58:08 <electrohead> Very nice!
01:05:18 <steve30> o/
01:05:30 <watcher> Hello steve30
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02:53:42 <T3sl4> DHess_US: for example, https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/TVS%20Capacitance%205.0SMDJ30A.png
02:57:11 <Kuschelpony> nice measurements, T3, and obviously not a replacement for Varicaps
02:57:33 <T3sl4> wanted to see for myself what it's like
02:57:44 <Kuschelpony> :)
02:58:40 <Kuschelpony> i spent my ecent days trying to improve a cheap spectroscope
02:58:41 <T3sl4> the m-coefficient being very close to 0.33 implies linearly graded or diffused junction, more or less, i think?
02:58:59 <Kuschelpony> uhm, i need to dig out m semiconductor reference books to answer this
03:01:23 <Kuschelpony> my next mini-project will be a modified wheatstone bridge, to track termperature of copepr coils
03:12:34 <DHess_US> T3sl4, yea, so the ratio isn't any better. I was just surprised at the magnitude.
03:13:26 <DHess_US> T3sl4, I am sure the junction is processed to prevent hot spots making it an "avalanche" junction, like an avalanche rectifier or MOSFET.
03:13:46 <DHess_US> Could compare it to a real avalanche rectifier.
03:16:20 <K> pardon my ignorance, but what makes it a bad replacement? line should be more linear? go to 0?
03:17:11 <T3sl4> yeah, if you wanted to do something like AM tuning, all you need is a huge junction, schottky also, might even get better linearity from MOSFETs where Ciss(Vgs, Vds) can be flatter vs Vgs though mainly in specific ranges
03:18:02 <T3sl4> i wonder what they actually do to prevent hot spots. probably just avoiding defects? better purity? surface passivation, guard rings? a complete non-issue with modern processes?
03:18:54 <Kuschelpony> K, also you need a much higher "Q" or lower equivalent series resistance, or your resonant circuit will be totally damped
03:19:06 <T3sl4> avalanche rectifiers are generally nothing special, at least from the few series i've looked at -- they're pretty rare outside of, well i mean, even the parts for OEM alternators, well they're OEMs, they don't need public datasheets, or many types to choose from, so they're still rare in the sense of seeing them at random, and in terms of how many out of all currently marketed types there are
03:20:02 <T3sl4> incidentally, the Q factor on my screenshot should be read as a confidence variable; likely the real amount is way more than that, and probe + jig losses dominates
03:21:42 <T3sl4> most avalanche rectifiers are same as regular parts, you get your 10mJ or whatever rating at an undisclosed voltage, typically 30-60% above Vrm and the 100-1000V series is all filled by the same 1600V part regardless
03:22:58 <T3sl4> it's been my experience, rectifiers can be safely avalanched at a few mA at least until overheating, and while the voltage is quite soft and drifts around, it doesn't lead to destruction, but i haven't tested any under real pulsed conditions, and i wouldn't be surprised to see failures then
03:36:26 <K> i see.
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03:54:21 <flyback> uh
03:54:23 <flyback> afaik
03:54:26 <rust_collector> tam tam TAM!
03:54:34 <flyback> avalanche are designed to take a overload as long as you cool them
03:56:35 <T3sl4> right
03:56:48 <electrohead> me and the bot friend will be going down for a solid minute, or many. <3
03:56:53 <electrohead> !beer T3sl4
03:56:54 * EEVBot tosses T3sl4 a nice cold brew
03:56:56 <rust_collector> YAY!
03:57:02 <electrohead> !beer rust_collector
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03:57:32 <flyback> normal diodes will degrade or burn afaik
03:57:34 <T3sl4> rectifiers, aren't all that big junctions in the grand scheme of things (30-100pF for a 1-3A part?), and you can't meaningfully cool them fast enough if it's microsecond pulses
03:57:43 <flyback> ok
03:58:00 <flyback> i kNOW THEY use avalache diodes for surge protection and over voltage
03:58:22 <T3sl4> i *think*, the mechanism of avalanche failure is something like, below X amps, if it doesn't overheat and melt, it's fine; as soon as you exceed X, some hotspot activates, kaboom, have fun
03:58:59 <T3sl4> there's also a recovery dI/dt and dV/dt limit, though it's usually quite high even in transistors, enough to ignore
03:59:46 <T3sl4> so you see MOSFETs regularly rated for, you know, 100s mJ avalanche, but at paltry currents like 4A, out of a 20 or 30A rating, because they really can't handle much of anything, and they also soak up more mJ's because the pulse is so long (10s mH inductor required for that test)
04:00:18 <T3sl4> back in the good old days, you'd have a HEXFET rated 50A and 50A avalanche, including repetitive, not just single-shot
04:02:01 <T3sl4> i suspect rectifiers are the same way, where average rectifiers handle -- at least some mA experimentally it seems, avalanche rectifiers handle... something, and maybe handle high peak currents but only for ridiculously small pulses because they're not really rated for much energy in general (10s mJ?), and it's TVS for everything else at basically unlimited current, until it literally melts
04:02:15 <T3sl4> also, electrohead is a towel
04:02:26 <electrohead> no u
04:18:49 * electrohead beer-hugs T3sl4
04:18:57 * T3sl4 tipples electrohead
04:19:08 <electrohead> that rhymes with nipples
04:19:45 <T3sl4> alcoholic milk would be a nipple tipple
04:21:08 <Kuschelpony> did you know, when you buy a laptop power supply from amazon, they include a new house? https://sueden.social/@[email protected]/112089498486999002
04:21:10 <EEVBot> [url] Martin Seeger: &quot;Ich versuche gerade #amazon zu kontaktieren. Ein …&quot; - Infosec Exchange | sueden.social
04:22:07 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEMGr5i3uGs
04:22:09 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨Rubidium Cesium alloy: NO orange flame! RbCs.⁩ | 20m 1s | Channel: ⁨ChemicalForce⁩ | 924 views | 2024-03-13 - 16:24:10 UTC
04:22:41 <electrohead> Heh, I legit just discovered that channel yesterday
04:22:43 <electrohead> :)
04:23:06 <T3sl4> he's crazier than you, and has the budget and lab access to do it lol
04:24:10 <electrohead> y u rub that in muh face
04:24:15 <electrohead> lol
04:24:25 <T3sl4> <3
04:24:25 <rust_collector> you like the sufferin
04:24:29 <electrohead> <3
04:24:52 <electrohead> serious though, if I had the funds to get a proper garage or shed put up outside, oh it would be on
04:25:07 <electrohead> I already have full plans on how I would set up a chem lab
04:25:51 <electrohead> speaking of, I'm still trying to find a decent job
04:25:56 <electrohead> so many fails
04:26:25 <T3sl4> :\
04:26:40 <electrohead> "please don't cold call us"
04:26:42 <electrohead> ..
04:26:52 <electrohead> well fuck everything I was tought when I was younger
04:27:00 <electrohead> 'sell yourself, get that job!'
04:27:03 <electrohead> yeah ..
04:27:59 <electrohead> T3sl4, that's actually why I was on the forums for a while earlier; looking at postings about jobs and such, and .. well, just posted my own thing
05:35:18 <DHess_US> T3sl4, how did you make those diode capacitance measurements? LCR meter with DC bias option?
05:36:43 <T3sl4> bias pot via 100k resistor, 2.2uF ceramic cap; 10x probes either side of a 1k resistor from func gen to DUT
05:37:00 <T3sl4> scope measuring cycle RMS, freq and phase, with 32x averaging
05:37:33 <T3sl4> phase being the most dubious of those measurements, +/- 0.5 deg or so is typical
05:52:16 <Kuschelpony> they have interesting ideas, melt and recrystalize accumulators during use https://techxplore.com/news/2024-03-healable-cathode-potential-solid-state.html
05:52:17 <EEVBot> [url] Healable cathode could unlock potential of solid-state lithium-sulfur batteries | techxplore.com
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06:26:03 <T3sl4> i love the "has potential to double the density", well yeah modern tech has the potential to triple itself, if only all those pesky interface materials and conductors, insulators, containers, etc. weren't needed
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06:27:02 <T3sl4> i guess that means what they're really saying is they can only 2/3rds the modern capacity, once all those are accounted for
06:28:48 <T3sl4> also 11 orders of magnitude better, than pure sulfur, a *famously* good insulator? that's still *a good insulator*
06:32:57 <Kuschelpony> ouch, thats mean https://sueden.social/@[email protected]/111823262261295626
06:33:44 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/zPysQC1.gif
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06:41:58 <electrohead> !beer
06:41:58 * EEVBot doesn't want to, and instead runs off with the beer
06:42:04 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEMGr5i3uGs
06:42:05 <EEVBot> [url] Rubidium-Cesium: The most active alloy! RbCs. - YouTube | www.youtube.com
06:42:19 <electrohead> cool, shit seems to work
06:42:26 <electrohead> any issues with the bot, let me know
06:42:35 <electrohead> I'm tasked for updating .. lots of things >.<
06:42:42 <electrohead> joys of being the IT guy.
06:42:45 <electrohead> "make it work!"
06:43:15 <rust_collector> EEVBot map horse
06:43:22 <rust_collector> oh, does not work
06:45:26 <steve30> !coffee
06:45:26 * EEVBot drowns steve30 in coffee
06:52:02 <flyback> https://github.com/oyvindln/vhs-decode/wiki/CX-Cards
06:52:02 <EEVBot> [url] CX Cards · oyvindln/vhs-decode Wiki · GitHub | github.com
06:52:26 <flyback> https://github.com/oyvindln/vhs-decode/wiki
06:52:26 <EEVBot> [url] Home · oyvindln/vhs-decode Wiki · GitHub | github.com
06:53:12 <rust_collector> still posting links to �yvind... okay
06:54:17 <flyback> ?
06:54:20 <flyback> still?
06:54:26 <flyback> is there a problem?
06:54:47 <rust_collector> no, you can post that as many times as you feel like
06:55:04 <flyback> well if I did already then I forgot, sorry
06:55:13 <flyback> just thouth this is a really neat project
06:55:19 <rust_collector> nah, I think it was mr head
06:58:28 <electrohead> ahh, yeah I remember that
06:58:39 <electrohead> totally neat project, post away lol
07:03:26 <flyback> yeah it's a fork of the laserdisc capture system
07:03:42 <flyback> to preserve old laserdiscs, this one is for vhs/beta/etc tapes
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07:37:50 <electrohead> https://github.com/oyvindln/vhs-decode/wiki
07:37:51 <EEVBot> [url] Home · oyvindln/vhs-decode Wiki · GitHub | github.com
07:37:56 <electrohead> oh ffs
07:38:09 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEMGr5i3uGs
07:38:09 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨Rubidium-Cesium: The most active alloy! RbCs.⁩ | 20m 1s | Channel: ⁨ChemicalForce⁩ | 4,224 views | 2024-03-13 - 16:24:10 UTC
07:38:10 <rust_collector> yeah, cool, post away
07:38:12 <Ampera> https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/EnZ9jEa6Z3q5iQr/preview https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/jCxtGqa5XbmW6d4/preview
07:38:14 <Ampera> food
07:38:41 <electrohead> oh yum
07:39:56 <electrohead> https://github.com/oyvindln/vhs-decode/
07:39:56 <EEVBot> [GitHub] oyvindln/vhs-decode - Software defined VHS decoder - Fork (maybe temporary) of the ld-decode Laserdisc rf decoder | 64.1% Jupyter Notebook 21.9% C++ 12.5% Python 1.4% Other | Last Push: 2024-03-10 - 16:52:40 EDT | Stargazers: 794 | Watchers: 32 | Forks: 34 | Network: 70 | Open Issues: 42
07:39:58 <electrohead> oohhhhh
07:40:02 <electrohead> ok, there we go
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08:38:30 <MrMobodies> Well, when the plumber inspected my bathroom
08:38:38 <MrMobodies> the cowboy work
08:38:47 <MrMobodies> it looks professional with tiling
08:39:22 <MrMobodies> but they just slapped it straight onto tongue and groove flooring with no waterproofing
08:39:34 <MrMobodies> the whole thing has to come out
08:39:49 <MrMobodies> my mum and dad's bathroom cost about £7000
08:40:24 <MrMobodies> my bathroom which is quarter size is going to cost £7000 as the walls around it are not brick
08:41:02 <MrMobodies> and that is keeping the basin and toilet which seems to work after find
08:41:15 <MrMobodies> in that price we were talking about shower pumps
08:41:57 <MrMobodies> he said something about the other pump would have to be the same type of changed, that this type when going due to the sensors to trigger the other run
08:42:07 <MrMobodies> *of I mean or
08:42:33 <MrMobodies> I know a builder was telling me about there were two different types
08:42:36 <DHess_US> The whole "heating up the battery to start" thing has never worked out well. Fuel cells had the same problem.
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08:45:40 <MrMobodies> as he was looking at the existing pump
08:45:42 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/hAGWaym.png
08:45:42 <EEVBot> [url] Imgur: The magic of the Internet | i.imgur.com
08:45:51 <MrMobodies> that had been LEAKING as well
08:46:07 <MrMobodies> and that was put in by the previous occupants
08:46:22 <MrMobodies> pretty much everything in this was leaking when we got it
08:46:52 <MrMobodies> when we fix those things there are other things leaking in places we can't see
08:48:14 <MrMobodies> he said instead of two and due to the distance it has to go to reach my bathroom which is on the opposite side of the house, he could put in an extra powerful one with a water storage vessel thin ontop to maintain the pressure
08:48:42 <MrMobodies> and tap both off, to my mum and dad's bathroom which is next to it
08:48:54 <MrMobodies> and pipes that go to mine through the attic
08:50:04 <MrMobodies> he said he was against using copper due to no insulatin and the distance up there it is going to go and wants to use one long run of double barrelled plastic pipe for the hot water
08:50:10 <MrMobodies> is this okay do you think?
08:51:27 <MrMobodies> so the house width is 12m plus about 4+m height to get the attic and back down 20m? of pipe
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08:52:29 <MrMobodies> he said the chances of the copper pipe freezing (even with coating on it freezing without is great.
08:53:08 <MrMobodies> that'd be 12m exposed I imagine and there is no insulation on the slopes in the attic
08:56:56 <MrMobodies> https://www.pandhengineering.co.uk/features/copper-vs-plastic-pipes#:~:text=“Plastic systems are also much,emergency winter call-outs.”
08:56:57 <EEVBot> [url] Copper vs plastic pipes - P&H Engineering | www.pandhengineering.co.uk
08:57:31 <MrMobodies> Is it true that plastic pipes are more resistant to cold temperatures?
08:57:40 <MrMobodies> Sorry I am still skeptical
08:58:31 <MrMobodies> Do you think I am being paranoid?
08:58:43 <rust_collector__> well, you CAN insulate copper pipes... and I do not think plastic is more resistant to cold, but it will expand and contract probably a bit more than copper, before it ruptures. Now, does it even get cold where you are?
08:59:11 <MrMobodies> yes about 5 to 10c sometimes in the winter
08:59:41 <MrMobodies> the hot water pipe I am worried about
08:59:43 <rust_collector__> I guess negative 5 to 10?
08:59:55 <MrMobodies> oops yes -5 to -10
09:00:53 <MrMobodies> he said it will also take much more longer having to solder the copper pipes and dig holes
09:00:54 <rust_collector__> ok. well, that is not really cold, but I guess at least having some sort of insulation added is an idea
09:01:01 <MrMobodies> I mean drill in the beam
09:01:04 <MrMobodies> in the attic
09:02:42 <MrMobodies> If there is a problem I could always *get* to those pipes in the attic
09:03:00 <MrMobodies> Do you think I should trust the plumber, see how it performs
09:03:28 <MrMobodies> there is a plastic one there that runs off from the tank to the electric shower and tap and that has been there since 2011
09:03:40 <MrMobodies> one of the very few things that haven't leaked yet
09:03:47 <rust_collector__> oh, it will work, lots of houses has that now. but it will not last forever
09:04:08 <rust_collector__> but...nothing does
09:11:18 <MrMobodies> I guess copper has a chance of lasting a lot more longer?
09:11:47 <MrMobodies> A plumber in my old house changed all the pipes in the bathroom in 1996 when he put a new boiler in downstairs
09:12:05 <MrMobodies> no pipe ever leaked on it's own till the moving in 2019
09:12:54 <MrMobodies> my problem is getting to it if it leaks without ripping the walls or ceiling to bits
09:12:55 <rust_collector__> copper CAN last for a long time. but it might also not. But yes, I think it will in general last longer than plastic.
09:13:31 <rust_collector__> not that anyone has tested the plastic pipes they use today, for 40+ years
09:13:48 <MrMobodies> he said that the pipe from the manufacturer he uses has a guarantee for 25 years
09:14:50 <MrMobodies> I am thinking of giving it a chance
09:15:03 <rust_collector__> yeah, and if it leaks after 24 years, what will they do about it?
09:15:07 <MrMobodies> with a view of when the work is done that I can get to it to rip it out
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09:15:19 <MrMobodies> and if it leaks that'd be my proof
09:15:56 <MrMobodies> I mean if it leaks I can reach the pipe, the wall in the bathroom behind it is a hallway and window
09:16:08 <MrMobodies> when he guts the bathroom out I want to build an access panel
09:16:21 <rust_collector__> yep, good idea
09:16:23 <MrMobodies> so if it needs to be replaced with copper it can be done easily
09:23:31 <MrMobodies> in the Summer it can get boiling hot up in the attic
09:23:48 <MrMobodies> do you think that could add to the wear and tear of the double barelled hot water pipe?
09:29:32 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
09:36:22 <MrMobodies> Do you think I should trust the plumber this time
09:36:30 <MrMobodies> I will ask what pipe he plans to use
09:36:42 <MrMobodies> when I meet him next down the pub
09:37:12 <MrMobodies> I just hope before it leaks in another 20 years I'll be living somewhere else
09:37:33 <MrMobodies> I have learned after 26 years can't always spend all of your life in one place
09:39:53 <MrMobodies> I don't think I have been in a house before where a lot of things leaked like this at the same time
09:40:17 <MrMobodies> Gas boiler - wrong exhaust/no seal leak
09:40:41 <MrMobodies> hot water cylinder with tissues stuck up the jacket leak
09:40:56 <MrMobodies> central heat pump leak in 2020
09:41:20 <MrMobodies> when we found it was wired in a way where the boiler was going all the time
09:41:32 <MrMobodies> then it started to leak when it got cold
09:42:02 <MrMobodies> my bathroom, waste pipe, leak, sink waste, leak three times until pipe replaced
09:42:33 <MrMobodies> wrong button types fitted to two cisterns where they didn't work properly
09:43:32 <MrMobodies> turbo fan removed from chimney flue, bits missing from log burner and like the boiler carbon monxide leak
09:44:48 <MrMobodies> my mum and dad's bathroom, replaced in 2010 by occupants, ripped out last week to find, toilet pipe leak, shower tray installed wrong which was leaking behind, waste on it leaking to loungue ceilin
09:45:27 <MrMobodies> the hallway ceiling fell down last year, a plaster yesterday said they didn't put any bond whoever did it
09:46:24 <MrMobodies> my mum is writing a letter to the previous occupants letting them know what they put us through and the costs
09:47:25 <MrMobodies> they run a business and I found where they live when we started to get threatening final tax demand letters in the post in 2021
09:48:16 <MrMobodies> also had to spend £450 clearing up the rubbish on the first day of moving which was not part of the contract and through the solicitors no response from them
09:48:55 <MrMobodies> my mum and dad brought this house in what appears no work needed to be done so
09:49:22 <MrMobodies> the plumber said there was nothing wrong with my bathroom when he first looked until ripping the other out so it fooled him too
09:50:49 <MrMobodies> I am going to ask the plumber to put taps on the connections going from the pump. So when can shut them off when going on holidays incase the pipe leaks
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11:39:37 <MrMobodies> I found something
11:40:12 <MrMobodies> the say the prime minister has the power to call an election
11:40:22 <MrMobodies> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/may-election-rishi-sunak-poll-b2511858.html
11:40:22 <EEVBot> [url] Pressure on Rishi Sunak as nearly half of voters want May election, poll reveals | The Independent | www.independent.co.uk
11:41:28 <MrMobodies> "... Sunak under mounting pressure to call snap election... a poll showed nearly half of the public want a May contest... four in ten voters want an election to take place within weeks."
11:41:40 <MrMobodies> he is the prime minister and in charge
11:42:36 <MrMobodies> but despite the numbers alling for it, there there are these clowns
11:42:39 <MrMobodies> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/03/13/rishi-sunak-urged-go-long-call-autumn-general-election/
11:42:40 <EEVBot> [url] Rishi Sunak urged to 'go long' and call an autumn general election | www.telegraph.co.uk
11:43:02 <MrMobodies> "told by 1922 Committee members there is ‘nothing to lose going later’ and he’d be ‘barking mad’ to opt for a snap May poll"
11:44:41 <MrMobodies> so the 1922 Committee opinion is more important than the numbers of the voters/public wanting it.
11:45:27 <MrMobodies> They say he has nothing to loose... but what about the voters and public.
11:46:14 <MrMobodies> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1922_Committee
11:46:14 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] 1922 Committee | "The 1922 Committee, formally known as the Conservative Private Members' Committee, is the Parliamentary group of the Conservative Party in the House of Commons. The committee, consisting of all Conservative backbench members of Parliament, meets weekly while Parliament is in session and provides a way for backbenchers to co-ordinate and discuss their views independently of frontbenchers. Its executive membership and […]"
11:46:38 <MrMobodies> Seems to me like they are representing themselves on this one not the public or the voters wanting it.
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12:11:07 <Halcyon> Afternoon guanciales
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13:06:45 <Ampera> <3
13:06:45 <Halcyon> \o/
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13:06:45 <Ampera> How are you doing Halcyon?
13:06:45 <Halcyon> Not too bad. Still waking up.
13:06:45 <Halcyon> How are you?
13:06:45 <Ampera> I am
13:06:45 <Ampera> eh
13:06:45 <Halcyon> The usual then
13:06:45 <Ampera> I am doing ok
13:06:45 <Ampera> I went to the gym today
13:06:45 <Halcyon> How did that go?
13:06:46 <Ampera> I used the treadmill for an hour
13:06:46 <Halcyon> Very good
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17:46:42 * electrohead pokes the Halcyon
17:56:14 <K> hello crock lovers
17:57:27 <electrohead> at least we're not cock lovers lol
18:05:37 <Halcyon> Sucks to be you electrohead
18:05:46 <electrohead> :P
18:07:35 <Halcyon> What's doing?
18:08:19 <electrohead> Just woke up, fell asleep early
18:08:21 <electrohead> You?
18:08:35 <Halcyon> Nothing much
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18:19:50 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:21:49 * electrohead hugs Ysjoelfir
18:22:06 * Ysjoelfir electrohugs head
18:25:08 <electrohead> how goes
18:27:29 <Ysjoelfir> Pretty good, taking my meds right now. that in combination with these headphones really help work :D so nice
18:28:09 <electrohead> do you have cannibal corpse cranked up? :D
18:28:29 <Halcyon> Emya?
18:28:32 <Halcyon> *Enya
18:32:14 <Ysjoelfir> no, I have ANC cranked up, so its nice and quiet
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19:25:56 <watcher> Mornings
19:30:58 <electrohead> Yo
19:32:40 <watcher> whatsup electrohead
19:33:39 <electrohead> taking over the world, one day at a time
19:33:41 <electrohead> you?
19:33:56 <watcher> something simaliar
19:34:49 <watcher> want to do a lot of stuff but have not the energy to do it all in one day and not been burned out
19:34:52 * K watches
19:42:39 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7wiZ_IiPCQ
19:42:39 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨Bunnos, Buns, & Wabbits - Internet Names for Bunnies⁩ | 1m | Channel: ⁨Lucid Software⁩ | 3,903,247 views | 2018-09-17 - 12:00:07 UTC
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20:37:33 <steve30> LTE seems to have mysteriously disappeared today
20:37:39 * steve30 waves from GPRS
20:39:27 <Halcyon> Bugger
20:39:52 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
20:39:56 <Ampera> bugger?
20:39:57 <Ampera> <3
20:40:12 <Halcyon> I'm talking to electrohead on the video phone
20:41:03 <Ampera> are you talking to him or your reflection in his head?
20:41:15 <Halcyon> Actually talking to him
20:41:25 <Ampera> tell him he's cute
20:41:29 <Halcyon> He just realised his switch and terminal server will run off 230/240 volts
20:41:40 <Ampera> most stuff will
20:41:52 <Halcyon> He says heyyyy
20:42:12 <Ampera> Tell him to stroke his hoosier for me.
20:42:23 <Halcyon> WTF is a hoosier?
20:42:27 <Ampera> hehehe
20:42:35 <Ampera> he owns one
20:44:10 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/yq5S6APAGZMZ7bZ/preview
20:48:19 <steve30> i think i'll go to the chip shop for lunch
20:48:33 <Ampera> steve30, am I a bad influence on you?
20:50:53 <steve30> I'm going to give LTE another go, back later
20:50:56 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
20:58:26 * electrohead squeezes Ampera with a hug
20:59:11 * Ampera hugs electrohead with a squeeze
20:59:16 <Ampera> did you see my curry?
20:59:20 <Ampera> it was so tasty
20:59:32 <Ampera> I tried using some red onions in it, and it came out very good
21:00:07 <electrohead> yeah I want some now, damn it
21:00:09 <electrohead> lol
21:11:16 <Halcyon> I did see it, looks delish
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21:25:21 <steve30> LTE works fine on the iPhone, so I don't know why it won't work on the Mikrotik
21:29:02 <K> !coffee steve30
21:29:02 * EEVBot drowns steve30 in coffee
21:42:06 <electrohead> it doesn't love you
22:45:41 * steve30 afk: food
22:53:40 <K> meanwhile in the civilised world it is a pi day.
23:13:37 <steve30> and there's me buying fish
23:15:39 <K> a true savage.
23:18:11 <electrohead> oh shit
23:18:17 <electrohead> happy pi day, guys and gal \o/
23:20:32 * T3sl4 pouts, it's not june 28 yet
23:21:54 <electrohead> and it's not june 17th, yet
23:21:56 <electrohead> :/
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23:41:01 <K> get fucked, JohnCena
23:41:56 <K> uh, is that not the fucking bot account again?
23:42:20 <steve30> no idea
23:45:31 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixZpBOxMopc
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