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01:13:41 <Ysjoelfir> K, I think I found a solution!
01:13:42 <Ysjoelfir> https://e2e.ti.com/support/audio-group/audio/f/audio-forum/1000182/pcm1863-requirements-for-crystal
01:13:43 <EEVBot> [url] PCM1863: requirements for crystal? - Audio forum - Audio - TI E2E support forums | e2e.ti.com
01:14:42 <K> yeah, it has pll, so no that strict on crystals
01:15:01 <K> might take some tinkering to find out right multipliers/divisors
01:17:16 <Ysjoelfir> as far as I understood it, it doesn't need any crystal OR master clock at all in slave mode, it can live completely from the I2S clock
01:17:38 <Ysjoelfir> and it has automatic PLL/clock configuration, so hopefully not much tinkering needed there
01:23:07 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir
01:23:10 <Ampera> how is your zombification going
01:23:42 <K> hm
01:23:51 <K> have to read more spec
01:23:57 <K> i understood it needs some clock for slave too
01:37:30 * Ysjoelfir rehugs Ampera
01:38:22 <Ysjoelfir> it is getting less severa I think. an hour ago some of the crustified blood broke up and some pus spewed out. looked pretty creepy. but now it deflated quite a bit and after I disinfected it it feels pretty good.
01:38:48 <Ysjoelfir> K - I understood it that way as well, but I keep finding more and more posts in that TI forum stating otherwise. like this one: https://e2e.ti.com/support/audio-group/audio/f/audio-forum/796979/pcm1864-pcm1864-adc-slave-mode-with-external-mclk
01:38:50 <EEVBot> [url] PCM1864: PCM1864 ADC Slave Mode with external MCLK - Audio forum - Audio - TI E2E support forums | e2e.ti.com
01:39:30 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, and on the bright side, you've cured my being hungry right now!
01:39:42 <K> is there a dev board for that IC ?
01:39:51 <Ysjoelfir> you are welcome, Ampera <3
01:39:59 <K> there is, uh, but it pricey
01:40:00 <Ysjoelfir> K - yes. costs 300€ a pop
01:40:12 <K> otoh maybe it is worth
01:40:27 <Ysjoelfir> I agree, it would be, if we would have a software dev in house already
01:40:45 <Ysjoelfir> with only me, it would basically just be sitting in its corner, looking nice and shiny
01:41:22 <K> are you going to outsource software ?
01:42:36 <Ysjoelfir> no, we are hiring. but that takes some time, because germany is destroying itself.
01:43:06 <Ysjoelfir> and maybe a bit of outsourcing will be doable, but I won't bet on that
01:45:11 <Ysjoelfir> oh, that app note mentioned in that forums post is very interesting. highly suggest taking a look if you are interested
01:51:27 <Ysjoelfir> as far as I understand it, it is actually beneficial to use that PLL clock generation feature, to accomodate drifting and not have skipped or duplicate samples
01:51:40 <Ysjoelfir> which makes sense
02:00:32 <K> yup
02:00:52 <K> clocks are pain, in general
02:00:58 <K> even for audio speeds
02:01:19 <K> well, in my limited exp at least
02:02:01 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a good theme for this years christmas cards
02:02:50 <Ysjoelfir> I envision an army of ravaging clocks of various shapes, engaging in a non friendly manner with a poor EE sitting on his desk
02:03:07 <K> did quite much of getting lost in 3 trees when was developing usb soundcard firmware PoC for my hare-brained idea of discrete dac
02:04:18 <K> it turns out if you want stable clocks via usb, some poorly described loops have to jumped through for compensations
02:04:36 <K> Ysjoelfir - i'll keep that in mind heh
02:05:30 <K> but in the end it 48kHz was quite stable, on a 32MHz xmega
02:05:44 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds pretty painfull
02:06:48 <K> diagnosing buffer over/underruns when when cpu time is critical is tricky
02:07:35 <Ysjoelfir> I can immagine that being not very nice
02:11:14 <Ysjoelfir> I am pretty happy that I am not that deep in the software side of stuff. though sometimes I wish I would be
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02:29:45 <rust5> a grumpy t3
02:30:12 <Ampera> hello rust5 how is it on this plane of existence for you today
02:35:32 <rust5> well, I did get a place to sit, on the balcony...
02:38:37 <Ysjoelfir> and you even got nice music suggestions!
02:39:28 <rust5> uh, yes. and.. I did not look at that yet, lol
02:39:33 <Ysjoelfir> lol
02:41:37 <rust5> I these small croc clips seem usable, actually. they do not just flop sideways, when I squeeze them
02:42:10 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, do you still listen to that music I sent you?
02:42:30 <Ysjoelfir> thats not bad, rust5
02:42:39 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera - yep, I put a lot of it onto my cars SD card
02:43:00 <Ysjoelfir> but right now I found that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0hmfY4nD6M
02:43:00 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Laerads Limum by Hindarfjäll, Feat. Johan Hegg | 5m 57s | Channel: Grimfrost | 100,361 views | 2022-07-01 - 10:51:54UTC
02:43:06 <Ysjoelfir> Which I think is pretty nice
02:47:29 <rust5> ooh, johan is cute
02:48:39 <Ysjoelfir> compared to his normal performance, yep
02:48:57 <rust5> he is always cute!
02:49:09 <Ysjoelfir> steve, is it you?
02:49:23 <K> get surprise-steved!
02:49:28 <rust5> hello ys.... I mean no no no no
02:50:24 <rust5> uh. famous steve 30k would not eat this stuff.
02:50:30 <rust5> maybe
02:50:45 * K famouses rust5
02:55:34 * rust5 is fam�s
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03:31:08 <MrMobodies> Hello
03:31:16 <MrMobodies> just got this from my ISP
03:31:17 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/RDIC7XH.png
03:31:17 <rust5> HELLO!
03:31:28 <MrMobodies> this is a game they play
03:31:35 <MrMobodies> and it starts of with this first
03:31:42 <MrMobodies> "business assurance charge"
03:32:06 <MrMobodies> then they'll change the tarrif to a more expensive one
03:32:41 <MrMobodies> and add an expensive phone package... well they can't do that anymore since I have some they set up special
03:32:51 <MrMobodies> by technical support for those that want it
03:33:01 <MrMobodies> this time there is no lock down
03:33:42 <MrMobodies> I could complain to ofcom and if they let me out of the contract I'd go with whatever company can serve me. Very limited in this area.
03:33:44 * steve30 needs more food
03:33:54 <Ampera> idk, it seems like a reasonable arrangement
03:34:02 <Ampera> they're effectively moving service charges to an insurance model
03:34:33 <Ampera> I'd say that's actually a fairly low charge for that too, particularly for a business service.
03:34:41 <MrMobodies> with two lines that will cost me over £13, I am not sure if that is including vat it doesn't say.
03:34:59 <Ampera> MrMobodies, why are you on a business plan if 13GBP is a big deal to you
03:35:02 <MrMobodies> so my £102 bill could jump to like £120
03:35:29 <MrMobodies> 2x vdsl lines and one unlimited 4g modem and one VOIP seat.
03:35:49 <MrMobodies> there is a fault but it isn't one Openreach would be willing to fix
03:35:54 <Ampera> That's on an order of magnitude cheaper than what an even comparable solution would cost here.
03:36:29 <MrMobodies> I'd take it but I don't trust this ISP at the moment.
03:36:35 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
03:36:52 <MrMobodies> they were part of a subisdary called OneBill
03:37:07 <MrMobodies> and during the lockdown it went to £200
03:37:16 <MrMobodies> and i had to argue with them on the phone
03:37:24 <MrMobodies> £109 to £200
03:38:00 <MrMobodies> Once fibre is out put in, I have better choice
03:38:14 <MrMobodies> talktalkbusiness were quite honest
03:38:53 <MrMobodies> I did use to pay an assurance charge when I moved and that was £5 with Onebill (subsidary of XLN)
03:39:12 <MrMobodies> there were faults where they had to dig the ground ont he road
03:39:25 <MrMobodies> but no fault in this property
03:39:42 <MrMobodies> and i had them send out Openreach run some cable to a cupboard
03:40:33 <MrMobodies> The men didn't know why they were here. Didn't turn up with the requested CW1600 cable. Which I had incase. when I tried to get it in writing that they did work for any future faults Openreach couldn't recall
03:40:39 <MrMobodies> and neither did they charge me
03:40:55 <MrMobodies> that was in during the end of the first lockdown
03:42:13 <MrMobodies> my contact ends about 2024
03:43:39 <MrMobodies> aah why am I on a business plan?
03:43:50 <MrMobodies> static ip addresses.
03:44:04 <MrMobodies> quick to get to technical support
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03:45:14 <MrMobodies> last time I was helping some it took an hour to get hold of someone on BT residential
03:45:20 <Ampera> yes, but then you have to pay extra for that
03:45:22 <Ampera> that's the whole point
03:45:40 <MrMobodies> I am concerned that they will do what they did last time
03:45:50 <MrMobodies> as soon as they add stuff on they don't stop
03:46:17 <MrMobodies> the business assurance was never apart of the package from last year
03:47:24 <MrMobodies> when there is a fault. I do a whole load of things to prove it isn't my equipment and this was also when I was paying an assurance charge.
03:48:11 <MrMobodies> I was told, if they find something not in the terms I'd be charged something about the boundary (outside the house)
03:48:20 <MrMobodies> and that was with assurance
03:48:31 <MrMobodies> of course I was not impressed
03:49:16 <MrMobodies> I remembered when I was with Talktalkbusiness. They had a similar charge which they applied for 3 months after install
03:49:31 <MrMobodies> for existing installations incase of any faults
03:49:39 <MrMobodies> that was about £3 per line
03:49:42 <MrMobodies> in 2015
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03:50:44 <MrMobodies> but yes I should have negotiated at the start of the contract for that. A lot of mistakes had been made by the agent.
03:50:59 <MrMobodies> and that did not go well
03:51:11 <MrMobodies> it sorted in the end
03:52:56 <MrMobodies> you know i will ask them again for their terms and conditions on their business assurance package and see if it is worth having again.
03:54:08 <MrMobodies> but I know it didn't include area outside house to boundry and missed appoinments.
03:54:48 <MrMobodies> which is worrying because the cables are under ground and I am not covered for that.
03:54:59 <MrMobodies> under that insurance
03:55:16 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/Bj0mDYXNGq1N0yyx/BRZQfVrASuCc12FW7lt-iQ.jpg
03:55:38 <MrMobodies> bread
03:55:43 <MrMobodies> home made?
03:55:51 <jaymax> Aww yiss
03:56:11 <rust5> poor guy, can not even buy bread
03:56:43 <jaymax> Give it a year ... noone will.
03:56:43 <Ampera> looks good jaymax
03:56:55 <Ampera> you're bred well
03:57:00 <MrMobodies> will go nice with some soup
03:57:14 * Ampera gives MrMobodies a bowl of new england clam chowder
03:57:29 <jaymax> Thanks Ampera.
03:57:46 <MrMobodies> I like dunking hard bits of crust and soft inards in the green brocolli soup
03:57:58 <jaymax> Yeah that works
03:58:18 <Ampera> Diner near where I live has a soup of the day you get with most full meals. They recently had new england clam chowder, and I hadn't had theirs before
03:58:25 <Ampera> it was genuinely really good clam chowder
03:58:27 <coppice> jaymax: looks suitably rustic to not be mistaken for supermarket bread, although our local supermarket now gets pretty close
03:58:34 <MrMobodies> https://irepo.primecp.com/2015/07/230563/Fishermans-Wharf-Clam-Chowder_ExtraLarge1000_ID-1117267.jpg?v=1117267
03:58:49 <MrMobodies> I never knew what a clam chowder was
03:58:56 <MrMobodies> thanks... new word learnt for today.
03:59:07 <Ampera> MrMobodies, it's what happens when you upgrade from old england to new england
03:59:28 * jaymax cooks up a prarie oyster chowder for MrMobodies
03:59:43 <MrMobodies> New england... I wish.
04:00:11 <MrMobodies> joke: they're still kicking the aluminum can down the road.
04:00:16 <MrMobodies> in parts of this village
04:00:53 <jaymax> Yeah the UK seems rather backwards ... been habing out with Europeans for too long.
04:01:07 <jaymax> s/habing/hanging/
04:01:08 <EEVBot> jaymax meant to say: Yeah the UK seems rather backwards ... been hanging out with Europeans for too long.
04:02:06 <MrMobodies> But that breads looks much more nicer than the one's I have seen out the local bakery
04:02:40 <MrMobodies> i hate to say it is backward but
04:02:59 <MrMobodies> in the local pub they couldn't understand about wifi signal and drop outs
04:03:00 <jaymax> MrMobodies: it's a pseudo-sourdough recipe ... I can send the recipe.
04:03:11 <MrMobodies> they think it should always work
04:03:21 <MrMobodies> pseudo - your own
04:03:39 <MrMobodies> nice when you deviate from guide
04:03:45 <jaymax> Pseudo because sudo-make-me-a-sammich
04:03:49 <MrMobodies> and adjust it
04:03:54 <MrMobodies> aah
04:03:58 <jaymax> Nah. lol
04:04:10 <MrMobodies> that would be nice though
04:04:12 <coppice> England's greatest world record: Going from the most powerful and technically advanced nation to 3rd world in just ONE generation
04:04:14 <jaymax> It's because I add in a little tiny bit of yeast.
04:04:40 <MrMobodies> I saw that happening many years ago
04:05:04 <MrMobodies> it was alittle better then
04:05:09 <MrMobodies> than it is now
04:05:32 <MrMobodies> the only first world thing I am hearing about, are these "smart meters"
04:05:42 <MrMobodies> a meter with the word "smart" slapped on it
04:05:43 <jaymax> coppice: Over reliance on europoean allies for everything instead of at-home energy and manufacturing.
04:05:48 <MrMobodies> aaah
04:05:59 <MrMobodies> Spain, don't make clothes anymore, give it to China?
04:06:14 <jaymax> Europe outsoursed too but their collapse is a little further down the road.
04:06:19 <MrMobodies> and they find they can't retire at over 50 anymore when there are fewer jobs
04:06:39 <rust5> bangladesh, I guess, for clothes
04:07:26 <coppice> jaymax: the country that did the most to create modern medicine now imports >50% of its doctors. The country that built the modern industrial world now imports almost everything advanced, and being an engineer is super low status
04:07:33 <MrMobodies> Sounds like an insteresting word "over reliance" to describe the state of it
04:07:38 <rust5> but the europeans are much more efficient, when it comes to collapsing their own stuff, so it will be done in about the same time
04:08:09 <jaymax> It's what happens when the majority of all energy sources and a serious chunk of resources for manufacture are coming from a country that is to be avoided because of war aggression.
04:08:35 <coppice> China has now pushed out most clothes production, as too low value. That's helping Bangladesh develop, though
04:08:43 <jaymax> Pride always comes before the fall.
04:09:22 <jaymax> Canada has been very "proud" too, which doesn't sit weell with me.
04:09:27 <jaymax> ...longterm.
04:10:07 <MrMobodies> I read a few years ago that Canada was still selling asbestos to India
04:10:15 <MrMobodies> well stuff to make it
04:10:34 <jaymax> Vermiculite mine in Quebec.
04:10:44 <jaymax> Which is asbostos-tained, yes.
04:11:20 <MrMobodies> aah not anymore
04:11:21 <MrMobodies> https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/news/2018/10/the-government-of-canada-takes-measures-to-ban-asbestos-and-asbestoscontaining-products.html
04:11:48 <MrMobodies> https://www.asbestos.com/mesothelioma/canada/#:~:text=There are no longer any,town of Thetford Mines, Quebec.
04:11:49 <EEVBot> [url] Mesothelioma in Canada: How Asbestos Affects Canadians | www.asbestos.com
04:11:55 <MrMobodies> looks like it was banned completely in 2018
04:12:01 <MrMobodies> a bit late
04:12:07 <coppice> jaymax: how does asbestos get into vermiculite? vermiculite is puffy mica
04:12:08 <jaymax> Whelp, guess specialty brake components are unavasilable then.
04:12:40 <jaymax> Not sure, but it was known-tainted issue with that mine.
04:13:17 <jaymax> IIRC a quarter of all Canadian homes with vermiuculite insulation came from that tainted mine.
04:14:16 <jaymax> or 1 in 10. I lost track.
04:19:41 <jaymax> All to say, hubris is eating away at societies. If people are largely agitated - or conversely - resting on their laurels, you want to make sure you have your nose at the grindstone, especially with eliminating dependence on far-flung systems. The "frontier" lifestyle is one to look at or revisit.
04:20:17 <jaymax> Homesteading or being "a prepper" is probably overkill FWIW.
04:22:53 <jaymax> But for the UK/Europeans here - going to the market daily is an alien thing in North America. Once a week or less often is more common and that's a frontier-lifestyle holdover.
04:25:24 <coppice> jaymax: I think most Europeans only shop once a week or once every two weeks, and supplement that with small buys of fresh things like bread more frequently
04:25:43 <jaymax> Yes that's what I mean
04:26:15 <jaymax> > supplement that with small buys of fresh things .... more frequently
04:26:36 <rust5> well, as I live 3 minutes walk from the store...
04:27:01 <coppice> Its mostly about accessibility. In HK I shopped very frequently, as I was so close to supermarkets
04:29:15 <jaymax> Indeed and it's a cultural consequence. It took a very long time for "new world" infrastructure to build out so that culturally meant larger pantries, iceboxes, etc.
04:30:06 <jaymax> FWIW it's rare for those diffeences to matter, but I read some of the rationing stuff near the end of WWII and after, and that shit was horrific.
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04:38:28 <Kuschelpony> ah i know what an inside joke is :)
04:46:51 <Kuschelpony> oops sorry that was meant for a different chat
04:50:32 <jaymax> Unfair inside joke. :^\
04:51:18 <MrMobodies> back went to the stop and no eggs there
04:51:36 <MrMobodies> well there was a battery farmed one but I don't usually buy eggs
04:51:42 <MrMobodies> sometimes they have some free range eggs
04:51:47 <MrMobodies> just found this:
04:51:48 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/3SEwCZa.png
04:52:12 <MrMobodies> that was what I was told when in 2020 I think
04:52:25 <MrMobodies> when they had to come out and dig the road up
04:52:41 <MrMobodies> excludes outside property to boundry
04:53:46 <MrMobodies> https://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews181825.html
04:53:48 <EEVBot> [url] XLN Telecom www.xlntelecom.co.uk Reviews with Best Broadband Reviews at Review Centre | www.reviewcentre.com
04:54:22 <MrMobodies> I already planned to look elsewhere and I have a few quotes from last year
04:55:00 <MrMobodies> one one credit to them... they setup that Bt Centrix thing starting from a trial
04:55:31 <MrMobodies> when I expressed my concerns about their BT Yealink (all they had to offer)
04:55:45 <MrMobodies> Cisco SPA 122, so far so good actually
04:56:25 <MrMobodies> I did have some problems with it making this noise and halting. As it was happening more often I traced it to the power supply last Christmas
04:56:32 <MrMobodies> but no problems every since
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08:18:55 <rust5> steve30 needs to work more on his clickbait titles
08:19:17 <steve30> hmm
08:19:47 <rust5> scenes from a thing at a hotel?
08:19:54 <steve30> Perhaps I'll try "You Won't BELIEVE Where steve30 went on Saturday!!!!!!!!!11!!1" instead.
08:20:03 <rust5> ooh, yes
08:20:22 <steve30> And a thumbnail of me pulling a funny face next to a policeman
08:20:49 <rust5> and get something about riot, and police violence, or how they reduce the amount of buses
08:22:16 <rust5> ban public transport! loot all the stores! reduce the polices lunch break by 20%
08:23:08 <rust5> uhm. well, I just thought that title was a bit...tame, compared to the last one
08:23:21 <steve30> it is :)
08:23:26 <steve30> But I wanted it to be accurate
08:24:32 <steve30> I think the Sony murder weapon camera did a good job :)
08:25:05 <rust5> it looks like it makes videos, so...yes
08:26:27 <rust5> I guess it makes it easier, it at least looks like you are just filming.
08:28:22 <steve30> That's precisely what I was doing. For a change, I wasn't actually protesting.
08:29:00 <steve30> I did find the bickering between people rather amusing, and I stand by the comment in the video that I should have taken some popcorn to nibble on while watching.
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09:46:07 <electrohead> o/
09:47:07 <rust5> O and stuff
10:04:26 <electrohead> hey babes
10:04:29 <electrohead> lol, what's good
10:04:41 <Ampera> I now have a 128GB iPod 3rd gen
10:04:54 <electrohead> oh nice :D
10:04:57 <electrohead> rockbox?
10:04:57 <rust5> pizza is pretty good
10:05:32 <Ampera> original firmware for now
10:05:43 <rust5> but, good night, blah blah
10:05:55 <Ampera> https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/NgMPTAce5ebiMYY/preview
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12:16:01 <arch> how do you do, fellow degenerates?
12:23:12 * arch lewds T3sl4
12:27:03 <arch> slow day huh
12:37:33 <T3sl4> steve30000 when someone else has curry: https://imgur.com/gallery/P0OtzsD
12:37:33 <EEVBot> [url] Sniff it out! - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
12:37:49 * T3sl4 tentacles arch
12:42:04 <arch> \o/
12:42:04 <EEVBot> I
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12:46:01 <T3sl4> just had a fat tuesday buffet at a bar, also apparently it's going to snow continuously for the rest of the week or so i suppose it's convenient to get that out of the way before the roads close
12:47:40 <arch> yaa boi, go get drunk on dat company money
12:47:48 <arch> which...happens to be your money?...but whatever
12:47:55 <arch> YOLO
12:48:09 <T3sl4> hmm... i didn't know anyone there, professionally, so i can't really expense it. drat
13:23:58 <MrMobodies> someone gave me an Xbox to test
13:24:07 <MrMobodies> first of all they turned up with no game
13:24:15 <MrMobodies> they want to sell it on ebay
13:24:33 <MrMobodies> I said it would be a selling point so the brought a game in
13:24:45 <MrMobodies> now I find one controller in the box with the wrong adapter on it
13:24:52 <MrMobodies> maybe for a different consoe
13:24:54 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/bIYXJbg.png
13:25:25 <MrMobodies> well at least they did bring me a game in good condition
13:25:33 <MrMobodies> I want check the temperature
13:25:40 <MrMobodies> to see how hot this one can get
13:25:51 <MrMobodies> I cleaned it out and that
13:26:11 <MrMobodies> with a datavac and some alcohol to get rid of the grime
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15:00:43 <EEVBot> [reddit] Found a hard drive in a tree in the woods (https://i.imgur.com/LvarCx7.jpg) to r/mildlyinteresting | 39702 points (94.0%) | 2812 comments | Posted by critbuild | Created at 2023-02-21 - 08:21:23CST
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15:11:56 <HarrySussex> waaah
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17:18:35 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://imgur.com/gallery/K8890JU
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17:23:28 * Halcyon hugs electrohead
17:38:29 <Halcyon> Stupid indian miners
17:38:41 <Halcyon> Or is it something different?
17:53:59 <Ysjoelfir> mournings
17:58:07 * T3sl4 eulogizes Ysjoelfir
17:58:32 <K> hello sausage sprouts
17:58:45 <T3sl4> hello cabbage bangers
18:08:52 <Ysjoelfir> eulo...what?
18:10:01 <T3sl4> eu'll regret not being nicer to people
18:10:06 <T3sl4> Halcyon: it's a birb
20:26:25 <Halcyon> Evening gingers
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20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
20:26:25 <K> hello regular expressions
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> Hello :-|
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> K, you have a few minutes to spare? I need an oppinion on a datasheet that I am not quite sure if I am right there
20:26:25 <K> 15 mins, daily meeting now
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> thats fine. my non-daily meeting is at 9:30, so I have a few mins before that
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pcm1862.pdf?ts=1676479291345
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> I want to use that. to have the best way to solve potential future obsolescences I want to design it in the most basic way, so that I can use all 6 ICs of that series interchangeably. to do that, I would need to have the thing in Slave Mode. Now what I don't quite get, which clocks does it need? As far as I understand it I can not use the crystal to make it generate all of its clocks by itself, instead I need to provide it a masterclock in
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> master mode, which can be either provided through the SCLK pin or XI. In addition I need to provide that BCLK and LRCK thing for the I2S interface from my processor. Did I understand that correct?
20:26:25 <K> uh this is taking longer than usual
20:26:25 <K> Table 5. PCM186x Clocking Modes says that for slave mode with PLL you need SCKI, BCK and LRCK
20:26:25 <K> and not XI
20:26:25 <K> as i see it
20:26:25 <K> but there are some differences for PCM1860/PCM1861 and rest of chips
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that. but the other ones can be software wise defined to behave almost like the 0/1 versions
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> so, what I wonder is.... can said SCKI, which is the master clock (isn't it?), also be provided by a crystal?
20:26:25 <Ysjoelfir> or an oscillator for that matter. like, any external clock source not provided by the processor itself
20:26:26 <K> Figure 34. kinda implies it yea
20:26:26 <K> hm, but LRCK only goes on into "Master Mode Only" block
20:26:26 <K> uhh, this is quite dense
20:26:26 <Ysjoelfir> thats how I read that as well. so, I THINK I should be good to go with ploinking a 24.123456 MHz crystal to that thing and provide it with BCK and LRCK over the I2S interface, which is available anyways
20:26:26 <Ysjoelfir> and yes. it is kinda irritating, isn't it?
20:26:26 <K> it is a complicated part though
20:26:26 <Ysjoelfir> yeah.
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20:26:26 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... this implies something simmilar. https://e2e.ti.com/support/audio-group/audio/f/audio-forum/1185966/pcm1860-pcm1860-clocking-float-xi-and-use-scki
20:26:26 <EEVBot> [url] PCM1860: PCM1860 clocking: float XI and use SCKI? - Audio forum - Audio - TI E2E support forums | e2e.ti.com
20:26:26 <K> imma look at that laters, heap of work just arrived
20:26:26 <Ysjoelfir> here a meeting arrived, sooo.... yeah. lets discuss that later together, I feel this is helping
20:26:26 <Ysjoelfir> thanks already :)
22:15:03 <jaymax> Morning Ambrosia's
22:18:01 <K> NO UR A TOWLE!
22:18:39 <jaymax> !towel
22:18:40 <EEVBot> NO YOU'RE A TOWEL
22:28:09 <Ysjoelfir> all thos towleees here
22:35:14 <K> thiccc
22:35:19 <K> bushy!
22:53:14 * electrohead yawns, waves, and things
22:53:30 * K flims.
23:01:02 <electrohead> sup stud muffin tops
23:01:32 <K> bananana
23:09:05 <Ampera> Good morning!
23:11:04 <K> ur late.
23:11:35 <Ampera> I am, one hour rain delay
23:11:47 <Ampera> working 07:00 to 15:00 today because someone decided to schedule a 14:00 meeting
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23:22:35 <K> nice!
23:22:47 <electrohead> nice.
23:27:37 <Ampera> on the bright side, my iPod is working great
23:27:59 <Ampera> I really like this iPod, too. It may be one of my favorite devices that I own.
23:28:09 <Ampera> idk why, I just think they're neat
23:31:39 <electrohead> off to work.
23:31:50 * electrohead hugs his fellow peoples
23:33:24 <Ampera> enjoy
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