// #australia — 2020-12-14
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13:48:00 <Bonny> hey Devil45
13:51:00 <Devil45> ;o howdys
13:51:00 <Bonny> how are you?
13:51:00 <Devil45> its humid here
13:52:00 <Bonny> hot here
13:52:00 <Devil45> but im not dead (yet)
13:52:00 <Bonny> so you don't stink then lol
13:52:00 <Devil45> nope
13:52:00 <Bonny> :)
13:52:00 <Devil45> got so many people on youtube claiming covid is over ... ah no it isnt
13:53:00 <Bonny> dumbarses
13:53:00 <Devil45> yea
13:53:00 <Devil45> we copped a lockdown last month because of a teenager lying
13:53:00 <Bonny> yup
13:53:00 <Bonny> out of lockdown now?
13:53:00 <Devil45> it was only 3 days
13:53:00 <Bonny> cool
13:53:00 <Devil45> apparently someone convinced the teen to fess up
13:53:00 <Bonny> we were in lockdown for 4 months
13:53:00 <Devil45> but our premier was pissed
13:54:00 <Devil45> he personally wants to kick the guys ass
13:54:00 <Bonny> fair enuff
13:54:00 <Devil45> but commissioner stevens says no - let the law deal with it
13:54:00 <Devil45> worry about staying safe
13:54:00 <Bonny> the law is weak
13:54:00 <Bonny> he deserves a kick up the backside
13:54:00 <Devil45> its got more holes in it than a golf course
13:54:00 <Bonny> true
13:55:00 <Devil45> i understand mr marshall being agro about it
13:55:00 <Bonny> so do I
13:55:00 <Devil45> im with him on that
13:55:00 <Bonny> same
13:55:00 <Devil45> state premiers do a lot of work behind the scenes.
13:55:00 <Bonny> yup
13:55:00 <Devil45> nicola spurrier (health minister) is working with him
13:56:00 <Devil45> so at this moment pizza shops are a dirty word
13:56:00 <Bonny> yup
13:56:00 <Devil45> lockdown was so hard last month.. sa was a ghost town
13:56:00 <Devil45> only 3 days but still - rundle mall was totally desolate
13:57:00 <Bonny> like vic when we had the curfew
13:57:00 <Devil45> i used to hate vic
13:57:00 <Bonny> why?
13:57:00 <Devil45> idiots in the melb room (and the old telstra servers a few years ago)
13:57:00 <Devil45> but
13:57:00 <Devil45> the covid thing - changed that :)
13:58:00 <Devil45> and most ebay sellers i buy from are in vic
13:58:00 <Bonny> ahh don't let a couple of idiot misjudge you
13:58:00 <Devil45> i cant be hatin'
13:58:00 <Bonny> true
13:58:00 <Devil45> and as im often reminded
13:58:00 <Devil45> life is too short to sweat the small stuff
13:58:00 <Bonny> that's right
13:58:00 <Devil45> another well known person passed over the weekend
13:58:00 <Devil45> charley pride
13:59:00 <Bonny> yeah I looked him up
13:59:00 <Devil45> so did i
13:59:00 <Bonny> first black country singer
13:59:00 <Devil45> i was told about this in the horse room
13:59:00 <Devil45> yep he was black - and ive never heard any of his songs
14:00:00 <Devil45> i was also informed in the same room about babs windsor
14:00:00 <Devil45> but i knew of her
14:00:00 <Devil45> i have a horse in the horse room - its got your nick as part of its name
14:02:00 <Bonny> lol
14:02:00 <Devil45> "bonny lass" but the horse is male.
14:02:00 <Devil45> so it should be "bonny lad"
14:02:00 <Bonny> yup
14:02:00 <Devil45> damian set them up.
14:02:00 <Bonny> cool
14:02:00 <Devil45> hes good like that.
14:02:00 <Devil45> but hes super busy
14:02:00 <Bonny> yeah damian is good
14:02:00 <Devil45> like "da boss"
14:02:00 <Devil45> aka grem
14:03:00 <Devil45> ive never needed to see grem about anything - except once re the horse bot
14:03:00 <Devil45> not bad for 6 years
14:03:00 <Bonny> yeah gremz has everything under control
14:03:00 <Devil45> thats how long ive officially been here
14:03:00 <Bonny> if it wasn't for gremz there'd be no austnet
14:03:00 <Devil45> since nov 2014
14:03:00 <Devil45> grem IS austnet
14:03:00 <Bonny> I've been here since 1997
14:03:00 <Devil45> i didnt have net then
14:04:00 <Devil45> didnt get net till 2003
14:04:00 <Devil45> and been on irc since.
14:04:00 <Bonny> I had net since 1992
14:04:00 <Devil45> i dont think sa had any in 92
14:04:00 <Bonny> ok
14:04:00 <Devil45> i could be wrong
14:05:00 <Bonny> you probably didn't hear about it in 92
14:05:00 <Devil45> its like the old saying about marriage "in a marriage one person is always right - the other is the husband"
14:05:00 <Bonny> lol
14:05:00 <Devil45> i heard about a bit of it in 1996
14:05:00 <Bonny> ok
14:06:00 <Devil45> when tv ads started using www. things
14:06:00 <Devil45> then it was all phones.
14:06:00 <Bonny> these days they don't really use the www anymore
14:06:00 <Devil45> the www is redundant - still exists in some urls but https: takes care of most
14:06:00 <Bonny> yup
14:06:00 <Devil45> so when you enter a url you dont need to put www
14:06:00 <Bonny> nup
14:07:00 <Devil45> eg banksa
14:07:00 <Bonny> yup
14:07:00 <Devil45> just the name - the domain and location (au)
14:07:00 <Devil45> my bank site doesnt display correctly in chrome on win 7
14:07:00 <Devil45> but works fine on win 8.1
14:07:00 <Bonny> why's that?
14:07:00 <Bonny> ok
14:07:00 <Devil45> not sure since chrome updates on both
14:07:00 <Bonny> yeah
14:08:00 <Devil45> i think maybe it "senses" the os
14:08:00 <Bonny> could do
14:08:00 <Devil45> google is spying
14:08:00 <Bonny> lol
14:08:00 <Devil45> if you try to access your history on youtube
14:08:00 <Devil45> you cannot see comment history unless it opens a new tab
14:08:00 <Bonny> ok
14:09:00 <Devil45> and someone else reckons youtube censors covid in comments
14:09:00 <Devil45> so if its a bad driving video - just call it car-vid 19
14:09:00 <Bonny> I don't use youtube often
14:09:00 <Devil45> and bypass the system
14:09:00 <Devil45> and you get spammers as well
14:09:00 <Bonny> ok
14:09:00 <Devil45> speaking of
14:09:00 <Devil45> bots seem under control
14:09:00 <Bonny> yup
14:09:00 <Bonny> I've been on a rampage
14:10:00 <Bonny> zlining them
14:10:00 <Bonny> lol
14:10:00 <Devil45> they sneak in
14:10:00 <Bonny> but I find them
14:10:00 <Devil45> if i were to get a mrc file (a small bot/socket) id ASK if it was ok to bring it
14:10:00 <Bonny> they must have ran out of ip's to use
14:11:00 <Devil45> id go in asd and ask once
14:11:00 <Devil45> but i dont have one - dont need it
14:12:00 <Bonny> they're more trouble than they're worth
14:12:00 <Devil45> needing a bot is like a man needing a third leg when the two he already has are fine.
14:12:00 <Bonny> exactly
14:12:00 <Bonny> don't need lx either
14:12:00 <Devil45> thats why its not in here
14:12:00 <Bonny> I don't have lx in my channel and it's running fine
14:13:00 <Devil45> i said it was ok to park lx in the chan i set up 2 years ago
14:13:00 <Devil45> to keep chanop company
14:13:00 <Devil45> its no biggie
14:13:00 <Bonny> nup
14:13:00 <Devil45> even if he asked and you said no or yes - its not important
14:14:00 <Bonny> I keep on top of everything
14:14:00 <Bonny> the old fashion way
14:14:00 <Devil45> the best way
14:14:00 <Bonny> yah
14:14:00 <Devil45> its like frank sang "i did it my way"
14:14:00 <Bonny> lol
14:14:00 <Devil45> cruise 1323 plays that a lot
14:15:00 <Bonny> cool
14:15:00 <Devil45> they also play lot of abba
14:15:00 <Devil45> and the easybeats
14:15:00 <Devil45> triple m plays powderfinger and ac/dc
14:16:00 <Devil45> so if you tune into a radio station on fm and hear "shot in the dark" be assured its ac/dc
14:16:00 <Bonny> just got a bot
14:16:00 <Devil45> from their new album
14:16:00 <Devil45> mmm
14:16:00 <Bonny> trying to hide by not joining the channels I'm in
14:16:00 <Devil45> i was mentioning this to someone the other day
14:17:00 <Devil45> no he simply said you catch them
14:17:00 <Bonny> oh ok
14:17:00 <Bonny> yeah I do
14:17:00 <Devil45> because i noticed several bots with copied nicks
14:17:00 <Devil45> or mirc idents
14:17:00 <Bonny> not nicks.. identds
14:17:00 <Devil45> yea
14:17:00 <Devil45> mirc id
14:18:00 <Bonny> yup
14:18:00 <Devil45> i wonder if any came in with my mirc id
14:18:00 <Bonny> I haven't seen one with your identd
14:18:00 <Devil45> the trick is to /whois
14:18:00 <Devil45> should show "identified to services" and a real name
14:18:00 <Bonny> I don't whois to see their idends
14:18:00 <Devil45> the real name i should edit
14:18:00 <Bonny> I get their full ip when they connect
14:19:00 <Devil45> ah yes opers see ips
14:19:00 <Bonny> yup
14:19:00 <Devil45> id forgotten that
14:19:00 <Bonny> :)
14:19:00 <Devil45> and yet a decade ago i was one on another network
14:19:00 <Devil45> memory loss
14:19:00 <Bonny> ok
14:21:00 <Devil45> i was able to edit the full name
14:21:00 <Devil45> which greys out if connected (but i had a status not connected and edited there)
14:21:00 <Devil45> so now you will no longer see "welcome to my world.."
14:21:00 <Bonny> just zlined 3 of them
14:22:00 <Devil45> instead " Devils�Like�To�Sleep�In�Satan�Sheets "
14:22:00 <Devil45> which matches the vhost
14:22:00 <Devil45> this should take effect here next connect time
14:22:00 <Bonny> cool
14:22:00 <Devil45> wife got mad at me for not changing the original name
14:22:00 <Devil45> i told her its based on a nightmare on elm street film
14:23:00 <Devil45> but a change is as good as a holiday
14:23:00 <Bonny> brb coffee time
14:24:00 <Devil45> banning bots is thirsty work
14:29:00 <Bonny> that's better
14:38:00 <Devil45> nothing like a nescafe blend 43
14:38:00 <Bonny> I drink maconna
14:38:00 <Bonny> moccona
14:39:00 <Devil45> thats expensive coffee
14:39:00 <Bonny> we get it cheap
14:39:00 <Devil45> mmm
14:39:00 <Bonny> lol
14:39:00 <Devil45> a tin of nescafe blend 43 is 20 bucks in woolies
14:39:00 <Bonny> cheapskates
14:39:00 <Devil45> but thats a 500g tin
14:40:00 <Devil45> big - lasts 3 weeks.
14:40:00 <Bonny> we get 400 gm jar for 12
14:40:00 <Devil45> so not exactly cheap
14:40:00 <Devil45> 20 bucks for nescafe is not cheap - 10 bucks is
14:40:00 <Devil45> and 85 bucks for a pack of 50 cigs
14:40:00 <Devil45> isnt cheap either
14:41:00 <Bonny> I don't smoke.. so don't care lol
14:41:00 <Devil45> after 35 years are you kidding
14:41:00 <Bonny> I quit 7 years ago
14:41:00 <Devil45> i already cut down
14:41:00 <Devil45> the wife doesnt want to lick an ashtray... which is what she reckons kissing a smoker is like
14:41:00 <Bonny> it stinks
14:41:00 <Devil45> but im not a heavy smoker
14:42:00 <Bonny> still stinks
14:42:00 <Devil45> anyone who smokes rollies - those stink
14:42:00 <Bonny> when you're a smoker you don't smell it
14:42:00 <Bonny> but when you quit the smell is overpowering
14:42:00 <Devil45> my old man was a big time smoker - used to smoke in the car - at home and at work
14:42:00 <Bonny> same as my dad
14:42:00 <Devil45> these days if you got kids under 18 in the car - its illegal to smoke
14:42:00 <Bonny> good
14:42:00 <Devil45> but this was the 70s
14:42:00 <Devil45> different era
14:43:00 <Bonny> same
14:43:00 <Bonny> I use to buy the 50 pack horizons
14:43:00 <Devil45> i could go through a carton of escort red or pj dark blue in a week years ago
14:43:00 <Devil45> thats EIGHT packs a week
14:43:00 <Devil45> at 25 smokes per pack
14:43:00 <Devil45> so a pack a day
14:44:00 <Bonny> I started smoking when I was 14
14:44:00 <Devil45> now i smoke maybe one or two cigs per day tops. thats real cutting down.
14:44:00 <Bonny> and never quit till 7 years ago in 2013
14:44:00 <Devil45> compared to my teen years
14:44:00 <Bonny> it's still bad for you
14:44:00 <Devil45> i know
14:44:00 <Bonny> no matter how many you smoke
14:45:00 <Devil45> interestingly im the only one in the household who smokes even just 1 ciggie a day.
14:46:00 <Devil45> the wife gave them up about a month or so after she met me - she claimed it was getting too expensive.
14:47:00 <Devil45> its a teenage trend
14:48:00 <Bonny> but you're no longer a teenager
14:48:00 <Bonny> time to quit.. :P
14:48:00 <Devil45> story of my life
14:48:00 <Bonny> you'll be able to breathe better
14:48:00 <Bonny> and smell and taste things better
14:49:00 <Devil45> i blame my old man and peer pressure for starting it
14:49:00 <Devil45> because back in the 80s everyone in high school who was cool smoked - in the toilets at lunchtime
14:50:00 <Devil45> and at that time the minimum legal age to buy them was 16
14:50:00 <Bonny> excuses excuses
14:50:00 <Devil45> now you gotta be 18. to drink vote smoke and drive.
14:50:00 <Devil45> i gave into temptation
14:51:00 <Bonny> yup and you can get yourself out of it
14:51:00 <Bonny> since you managed to cut down which is the hardest thing to do, you should be able to quit
14:51:00 <Devil45> that is true
14:51:00 <Devil45> if it was a pack aday
14:51:00 <Devil45> harder
14:52:00 <Bonny> yup
14:52:00 <Devil45> but its only 1 ray/cig per day. maybe 2 if im stressed.
14:52:00 <Devil45> never more than 4 a day
14:52:00 <Bonny> smoking causes stress
14:52:00 <Devil45> i wonder if it causes panic during sleep - to where you wake up gasping for air and cannot exhale
14:52:00 <Devil45> for like a minute
14:53:00 <Bonny> yup
14:54:00 <Devil45> its happened to me a couple of times - usually i recover and sleep ok after that. seen a doc. he says stress does that. best bet - avoid dairy products before bed. so dont drink egg nogs.
14:54:00 <Bonny> ok
14:54:00 <Devil45> never have milk before sleep
14:54:00 <Bonny> I have coffee b4 i go to bed
14:54:00 <Bonny> with milk
14:54:00 <Devil45> but its ok to drink a bit of oj
14:54:00 <Devil45> or water
14:54:00 <Bonny> doesn't affect me
14:55:00 <Devil45> thats because you dont drink egg nog oaks
14:55:00 <Bonny> during xmas I do
14:55:00 <Devil45> i buy a dozen of those.
14:55:00 <Bonny> they're yum
14:55:00 <Devil45> freeze em
14:55:00 <Devil45> have one after lunch
14:55:00 <Devil45> with a tim tam
14:55:00 <Bonny> tsk
14:55:00 <Bonny> what's your weight like?
14:55:00 <Devil45> i buy the large value pack tim tams
14:56:00 <Bonny> apnea can cause you to wake up during the night gasping for air
14:56:00 <Devil45> its average
14:56:00 <Bonny> apnea is caused by obesity
14:56:00 <Devil45> nah im not overweight
14:56:00 <Bonny> ok
14:56:00 <Devil45> not underweight either - sort of inbetween
14:56:00 <Devil45> only person in my family who ever got bigger was mum
14:56:00 <Bonny> so your problem could be the ciggies
14:57:00 <Devil45> but she quit the cigs before i was born - so she could save for a car
14:57:00 <Bonny> cool
14:57:00 <Devil45> and the whole time ive known her she never once lit up
14:57:00 <Bonny> that's well done
14:57:00 <Devil45> my old man however never stopped
14:57:00 <Bonny> I haven't touch a ciggie since may 2013
14:57:00 <Devil45> the house would smell like a pub.
14:57:00 <Bonny> it's yuck
14:57:00 <Devil45> the car - same
14:57:00 <Devil45> the kitchen table same
14:58:00 <Devil45> he smoked every 30 mins
14:58:00 <Devil45> he also drank
14:58:00 <Bonny> like my dad
14:58:00 <Devil45> what is it about dads and drinking?
14:58:00 <Bonny> my dad is 88 and has dementia.. he has quit the ciggies but if he sees alcohol he drinks it
14:59:00 <Devil45> you need to lock the liquor cabinet when hes around
14:59:00 <Bonny> so he is an alco but still remembers the booze even tho he has dementia
14:59:00 <Devil45> "no dads allowed beyond this point" on the door of the cabinet
15:00:00 <Devil45> thats another thing
15:00:00 <Devil45> withdrawals can cause mood swings
15:00:00 <Devil45> so quitting cold turkey may not work for every smoker
15:00:00 <Bonny> I didn't quit cold turkey
15:00:00 <Devil45> ive heard of vapes
15:00:00 <Bonny> and I didn't cut down either
15:00:00 <Devil45> e-cigs
15:00:00 <Bonny> they're crap.. they do nothing
15:00:00 <Devil45> yea
15:01:00 <Devil45> may as well smoke a plastic toy
15:01:00 <Bonny> yup
15:01:00 <Devil45> or as i was once told "a dildo"
15:01:00 <Devil45> thats what vapes and e-cigs are. useless
15:01:00 <Bonny> does that work?
15:01:00 <Devil45> hypnotist?
15:01:00 <Bonny> yeah
15:01:00 <Devil45> mmm hypnotherapy
15:01:00 <Devil45> convincing the subconscious that you dont need something
15:02:00 <Bonny> he made a killing
15:02:00 <Devil45> a tidy profit
15:03:00 <Devil45> if you paid that much. 45 bucks a head at 120 people = over 5k
15:03:00 <Devil45> 5400
15:03:00 <Devil45> compared to the cost of a packet
15:04:00 <Devil45> if it had been me there id have said i dont have a lighter - i borrowed someone elses. especially if it has a topless lady on it. no way would i hand that to a hypnotist.
15:05:00 <Devil45> but if its one on one - its a small price to pay for therapy
15:05:00 <Devil45> i wouldnt go to a meeting with 119 other people there
15:05:00 <Devil45> only time ive gone somewhere with a crowd was a rock concert
15:06:00 <Devil45> when guns n roses played adel oval some years ago.
15:07:00 <Devil45> patches work but only partly
15:07:00 <Devil45> nicorette doesnt work - a lot of women who have tried to quit claim it does nothing
15:07:00 <Devil45> so thats why you smile a lot now?
15:08:00 <Devil45> knowing you wont get sick or pay a fortune for packs
15:09:00 <Devil45> i wouldnt light up around a non-smoker or someone who quit
15:10:00 <Devil45> where i work is a non-smoking place - you gotta smoke - do it outside - and use the designated smokers please trays
15:10:00 <Devil45> no butts on the ground
15:11:00 <Devil45> got a milo tin outside for butts at home.
15:12:00 <Devil45> when i did work experience years ago - i used to sneak a smoke every hour
15:13:00 <Devil45> yea the spray painter complained to the boss
15:13:00 <Devil45> because of the flammable paint
15:13:00 <Devil45> was a crash repair business so cars got fixed. spray painting - being automotive is highly flammable
15:13:00 <Devil45> fire risk. he told the boss.
15:14:00 <Devil45> and i was told to go outside if i had to sneak smokes that badly - not around the painter
15:14:00 <Devil45> go outside and smoke or go home. your choice he said. i never smoked inside a place like that again after that :)
15:15:00 <Devil45> and people say im a slow learner - pfft.
15:24:00 <eddie> burrrrrr cold here today...
15:24:00 <Bonny> hot here today
15:24:00 <eddie> only 19 deg where I am
15:24:00 <Bonny> 33 here
15:24:00 <eddie> okie
15:25:00 <eddie> forecast 27 tue, 28 Wed, 29 Thurs, 29 Friday for me
15:25:00 <eddie> Sat 29, Sunday 28
15:26:00 <eddie> I prefer warmer than we are having/
15:26:00 <eddie> so how is Bonny today ?
15:26:00 <Devil45> 29 27 24 23 23 28 for me (34,8 now)
15:26:00 <Bonny> I'm good thanks, yourself?
15:27:00 <eddie> how is the accommodation sift going (or is it stalled)
15:27:00 <Bonny> settlement is 15th feb
15:27:00 <Bonny> will do a bit of reno's b4 I move in
15:28:00 <eddie> not going too bad.. been busy Friday from 5pm a sundowner, Saturday was the radio club Christmas function at the Henley Brook tavern... food was great, and it was not too hot in the shade there
15:28:00 <Bonny> sounds good
15:28:00 <eddie> okie, I think you are looking forward to the new place
15:29:00 <Bonny> yes I am
15:29:00 <Bonny> then hopefully I can buy a new car
15:29:00 <eddie> good stuff.. getting an electric one ?
15:29:00 <Bonny> no..
15:29:00 <Devil45> electric cars are the rage in canada im told
15:29:00 <Devil45> but a pain to recharge
15:30:00 <Bonny> yeah it would be
15:30:00 <eddie> we are looking at getting a second hand Nissan Leaf (2019) from Japan :)
15:30:00 <eddie> eas to charge here and we have less infrastructure than in Vic and NSW
15:30:00 <eddie> easy
15:31:00 <eddie> the state Govt here announced they will be have charge stations all over the state happening within the next 12 months (appart from what we have already)
15:32:00 <Devil45> i cant see our government approving that
15:32:00 <eddie> lots of places where you can charge here for free... already so that is good...
15:32:00 <Bonny> what's the fastest can an electric car go?
15:32:00 <Devil45> sa is behind the rest of the country
15:32:00 <eddie> fastest ?
15:32:00 <Bonny> yes as in speed
15:32:00 <Devil45> top speed
15:33:00 <Devil45> oh great. first gillards lie about carbon tax now a mileage tax
15:33:00 <eddie> much faster than the speed limit... most are speed limited
15:33:00 <Bonny> ok
15:33:00 <Devil45> i imagine those smart cars running around ontario - needing a recharge every 3 hours
15:33:00 <Devil45> but thats canada
15:34:00 <eddie> range varies on the car.. the leaf 2019 has a not too bad a range of some 420+km if you do not floor it all the time
15:34:00 <Devil45> i see a lot of people on em there.
15:35:00 <Devil45> there are some bicycles with a small motor - our cops consider them a "vehicle"
15:36:00 <Devil45> geez
15:37:00 <Devil45> over here i see a lot of cars from the 70s and 80s still on the road.
15:37:00 <Devil45> it cant be vic
15:37:00 <Bonny> my car is 15 years old
15:38:00 <eddie> Oh okie
15:39:00 <eddie> home #1 is ?
15:40:00 <Devil45> i dont know why you cant just keep the old car at home
15:40:00 <eddie> not too bad a funds for the plate :)
15:40:00 <Devil45> china has some messed up laws.
15:41:00 <eddie> must be lunch time soon.. (late)
15:41:00 <Devil45> not on as bad a scale as usa
15:41:00 <Devil45> in usa - hit and run is common
15:41:00 <Devil45> insurance fraud is also common in usa
15:41:00 <eddie> woot now that is a law I would like to see here in WA
15:42:00 <Devil45> women who cant drive committing insurance fraud on american roads
15:42:00 <Devil45> very common
15:42:00 <Devil45> looking for a quick payday
15:43:00 <eddie> hence why dash cams save the day !
15:43:00 <Devil45> in WA - there needs to be a law where hoons have their cars impounded and crushed - on top of permanent licence cancellation
15:44:00 <Devil45> ive always believed driving is never a right
15:45:00 <Devil45> its a privilege
15:45:00 <Devil45> and in aus - all states it is ILLEGAL to use a mobile phone while driving unless its a hands free type with a cradle and so on
15:46:00 <Devil45> but i see a lot of women on the phone
15:47:00 <Devil45> while driving pay attention. put the fucking phone away. pull over to take a call or make one.
15:47:00 <Devil45> tradies are entitled douche canoes
15:49:00 <Devil45> adelaide tradies are for sure
15:49:00 <Devil45> especially plumbers
15:50:00 <Devil45> see em in their vans on the phone
15:51:00 <Devil45> they give the hardworkers who do the right thing a bad name
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