// #australia — 2020-08-16
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00:00:00 <doggyrat> games now require special graphic cards min. 8GB better 16Gb Ram and high speed CPU's
00:01:00 <doggyrat> starting as refurbish desktop which will be slow but able to game at about 500 euro
00:01:00 <Bonny> ahhh ok
00:02:00 <doggyrat> i should not waste my time in gaming , better focus in learning and improving programing and electronics
00:02:00 <Bonny> so you're saying the refurbished laptop won't have a fast graphics card?
00:03:00 <doggyrat> they are office labtop's with i5 4th generation 8GB Ram
00:04:00 <doggyrat> but it would be good enough to make 3D drawings and run the other programs i use
00:05:00 <Bonny> ok that's ok then
00:05:00 <doggyrat> they started making malware for linux
00:05:00 <Bonny> really
00:06:00 <doggyrat> someone of the nerd channel did pose a warning
00:07:00 <doggyrat> i think linux is still save, unless you do not install programs that contain malware
00:08:00 <Bonny> well how would you know if the program contains malware or not?
00:08:00 <doggyrat> and even than only your user account would be infected , if you did not do it with root right
00:08:00 <doggyrat> this is the problem
00:08:00 <doggyrat> and there is no virus protection for linux as far as i know
00:08:00 <Bonny> nup
00:09:00 <doggyrat> so i will use two hdd one save version with only edition programs
00:10:00 <Bonny> ok
00:10:00 <doggyrat> and the other hdd with third party software
00:11:00 <Bonny> that sounds messy
00:11:00 <Bonny> are you going to fablab today?
00:12:00 <doggyrat> i am about to leave just need to get dressed
00:12:00 <Bonny> ahh ok
00:12:00 <doggyrat> ok i am not naked but considering the temperatures in my chamber very little on :P
00:12:00 <Bonny> lol
00:13:00 <Bonny> it would get hot in your chamber being a small space
00:13:00 <Bonny> are you able to use a fan in there?
00:13:00 <doggyrat> i signed in for 5pm that 1am your time
00:13:00 <Bonny> yup
00:14:00 <doggyrat> i have one running but i can not keep the door open there is not enough space
00:14:00 <Bonny> that makes it worse
00:15:00 <Bonny> does it get cold in your chamber during winter?
00:15:00 <doggyrat> yes i does 2 years ago i had a heater in it, but this is expensive
00:16:00 <Bonny> yes electricity isn't cheap
00:16:00 <doggyrat> which the door in now it is more affordable
00:16:00 <Bonny> cool
00:17:00 <doggyrat> we had the door out but now it is back in
00:17:00 <Bonny> ok
00:17:00 <doggyrat> i am heading to the lab talking tomorrow
00:17:00 <Bonny> ok.. enjoy
00:17:00 <Bonny> night
00:18:00 <doggyrat> i surely will enjoy it
00:18:00 <doggyrat> sleep well Bonny
00:18:00 <Bonny> thanks
00:18:00 <doggyrat> is there much activity on #melbourne
00:19:00 <doggyrat> bye
01:03:00 <eddie> hello Bonny I had to run off earlier to make dinner and do some other stuff...
01:03:00 <Bonny> that's cool.. how are you?
01:04:00 <eddie> not too bad... cold here a bit... and I am missing what they would be celebrating on Crete today etc..
01:04:00 <Bonny> yes name day
01:05:00 <Bonny> for all the mary maria and peter
01:05:00 <eddie> ?????a ????? ?a? t?? ?????? µe ??e?a!!!!!
01:05:00 <eddie> Today, August 15, we commemorate:
01:05:00 <eddie> The Dormition of our Most Holy Lady the Theotokos and Ever Virgin MARY.
01:05:00 <eddie> a special day where I stay when on Crete :)
01:05:00 <Bonny> yup
01:05:00 <Bonny> cool
01:06:00 <Bonny> it's celebrated all over greece not just crete.. it's a public holiday there too
01:06:00 <eddie> I missed it last year as I was told we needed a break from travel and we could go in 2020 (not happy )
01:06:00 <eddie> ok about all over Greece
01:08:00 <eddie> I just enjoyed it in 2017 & 2018 I am not religious but these occasions kind of made that weekend special.. and seeing the way the whole family has a meal an all was nice to see.. grandparents, parents, children and their kids...
01:09:00 <Bonny> yeah families are close in greece
01:10:00 <eddie> my family WAS close.. and after my mother died things are not the same.. she was the glue that kept the family together.. my sister and brother do not seem to care an all.. I have more contact from the extended family in the netherlands..
01:11:00 <eddie> and this makes me unhappy and sad.. I am one that values family but.....
01:11:00 <Bonny> yes it's sad
01:13:00 <eddie> umm yes anyways I better get to and do some more research for something I want to build
01:13:00 <Bonny> have fun.. nice chatting
01:15:00 <eddie> oke..
01:15:00 <eddie> I have been busy today
01:15:00 <eddie> - to radio club at 9am til 11am
01:15:00 <eddie> - 11:10 til noon at a friends place sorting his computer (again)
01:15:00 <eddie> - 12:20 til 1 pm having coffee and biscuit
01:16:00 <eddie> - Home made lunch
01:16:00 <eddie> - 14:10 to when ever off to get internet connected for a departed friends widow.
01:16:00 <eddie> back home by 5pm...
01:16:00 <Bonny> you have been busy.. :)
01:16:00 <eddie> busy busy...
01:16:00 <eddie> yes I have been.. now no need to do any of that on Sunday...
01:17:00 <Bonny> sunday is a day of rest
01:18:00 <eddie> umm maybe but I have to get some stuff done in the morning the usual broadcast and callbacks from 9am, and then back home to have lunch (but I have to buy some bread rolls and milk as well as some spreads)...
01:19:00 <eddie> been doing that broadcast thing for nearly 6 years now..
01:19:00 <Bonny> cool
01:20:00 <Bonny> keeps you busy.. :)
01:31:00 <Bonny> hey doggyrat
01:32:00 <doggyrat> why are you not watching tv
01:32:00 <Bonny> I don't watch tv.. I watch bewitched online
01:32:00 <doggyrat> i did not expect you to reply as soon as i lock in
01:32:00 <Bonny> lol
01:33:00 <doggyrat> i met a dog on my way to lab
01:33:00 <Bonny> oh cool
01:33:00 <Bonny> what kind of dog?
01:34:00 <doggyrat> he is 11 years old and ticklish almost everywhere
01:34:00 <Bonny> hehehe
01:35:00 <doggyrat> it looked like a shepherd dog
01:36:00 <doggyrat> he did enjoy it to be pet, he lay down on his back so i could pet his belly
01:36:00 <Bonny> how sweet
01:37:00 <doggyrat> the owner seemed to have a alcohol problem but was very friendly
01:37:00 <Bonny> ok
01:37:00 <doggyrat> i guess he loves his dog and take care about him as far as he can
01:37:00 <Bonny> yup
01:38:00 <Bonny> he probably wouldn't be able to live without his dog
01:38:00 <doggyrat> i had to go because the bus was coming
01:38:00 <Bonny> yeah
01:39:00 <doggyrat> there was not missing much and we both (dog and me) would have been lying in the grass
01:39:00 <doggyrat> i was thinking about lying down too
01:39:00 <Bonny> hehehe
01:39:00 <Bonny> you would have gotten dirty
01:40:00 <doggyrat> yes that is why i did not do it
01:40:00 <doggyrat> that is my fear of the wolf
01:41:00 <Bonny> yeah
02:21:00 <doggyrat> sorry i have been working on my drawing
02:23:00 <doggyrat> on melbourne there is : the silence of the chatters
02:25:00 <Bonny> melbourne has been dead the whole time you've been here
02:26:00 <doggyrat> in another channel chillincafe one user did complain i was talking too much
02:27:00 <Bonny> that's dumb.. this is what irc is meant to be.. irc = internet relay chat
02:28:00 <Bonny> should have said to him.. if you and a few others were also chatting there wouldn't be a need for me to chat too much
02:29:00 <doggyrat> in chillincafe Erf and LilPuppet did marry a few week ago
02:29:00 <Bonny> good luck to them
02:29:00 <Bonny> how's your project going?
02:29:00 <doggyrat> i remarked Crazy Erf and Lazy LilPuppet got married :)
02:30:00 <Bonny> lol
02:30:00 <doggyrat> i can not check the sizes because the laser is not free
02:30:00 <Bonny> oh ok
02:30:00 <Bonny> how long will it be free again?
02:33:00 <doggyrat> i have no idea may be i go home , i can do it the next time i am in the lab
02:34:00 <Bonny> ok
02:34:00 <Bonny> do they have a booking system to use the equipment?
02:35:00 <doggyrat> no we are just making a queue and respecting each other
02:36:00 <Bonny> might be better to do a booking system.. that way everyone gets a chance
02:37:00 <doggyrat> before he started his job he asked and i help him to do the import of his picture
02:37:00 <doggyrat> at that time i was not ready to laser
02:38:00 <Bonny> ahh ok
02:39:00 <Bonny> fair enuff
02:41:00 <doggyrat> it there is openlab or kidslab we do have a whiteboard as schedule to sign in
02:41:00 <Bonny> yeah like a booking system
02:44:00 <doggyrat> in future every member will get an access key providing or avoiding the use of equipment
02:45:00 <doggyrat> only after instruction for an equipment the member will get access
02:45:00 <Bonny> sounds like a good idea
02:56:00 <doggyrat> so they do prevent damage at the equipment and injuries of people specially on open lab days
02:58:00 <Bonny> yeah
03:08:00 <doggyrat> i did laser and it seem to fit only one slice needs to be resized
03:09:00 <Bonny> oh cool..
03:09:00 <Bonny> well done
03:15:00 <doggyrat> it is not really a mistake, it is just the circuit board that is half a millimeter larger on one part
03:16:00 <Bonny> so it can be fixeed
03:16:00 <Bonny> fixed*
03:17:00 <doggyrat> just need to cut another slice with different dimension at the side
03:17:00 <Bonny> ok
03:17:00 <doggyrat> this is the advantage compared to 3D print there you wait for hours to find out it do not fit
03:17:00 <Bonny> yeah
03:19:00 <doggyrat> i made 4 slices for possible problems in 3D print four times failing get expensive :)
03:28:00 <Bonny> yes it would be expensive..
03:54:00 <doggyrat> Bonny: you should go to bed , at the moment the laser is occupied may be that i have to do the last slice next time
03:54:00 <Bonny> I'm watching bewitched
04:03:00 <doggyrat> it will be the next Olympic discipline BEWITCHED marathon
04:04:00 <Bonny> lol
04:04:00 <Bonny> did you manage to get access to the laser to fix last slice?
04:05:00 <doggyrat> next time someone asks you if you do sport just say bewitched marathon
04:05:00 <Bonny> ok lol
04:16:00 <doggyrat> i made a new joke
04:17:00 <doggyrat> <CherryGuevara> oh, you collect coins? that’s cool LilPuppet. I have a casual coin collection :P
04:17:00 <doggyrat> <doggyrat> CherryGuevara: casual coin collection it that what you collect in the pedestrian area :P
04:18:00 <Bonny> lol
04:25:00 <doggyrat> i have finished and it seem to work parts are fitting
04:25:00 <Bonny> great
04:25:00 <doggyrat> time to catch the bus home only 10 min left
04:25:00 <Bonny> that's one thing done.. don't have to worry about that now
04:26:00 <doggyrat> bye
04:26:00 <Bonny> ok goodnight.. sleep well when you get there
04:26:00 <Bonny> bye
19:47:00 <doggyrat> hello
21:00:00 <doggyrat> sorry i was away on the balcony
21:07:00 <doggyrat> hello Bonny
21:30:00 <Bonny> hey doggyrat.. :)
21:30:00 <Bonny> I just woke up from a nap
21:31:00 <doggyrat> today i slept long
21:32:00 <Bonny> you must have been tired
21:32:00 <doggyrat> as so many nights before i had some weird dreams and that does wreck next morning
21:32:00 <Bonny> I woke up early today but couldn't stay awake in the afternoon
21:32:00 <Bonny> bad dreams?
21:33:00 <doggyrat> yes, dreams about the past, i do have them frequently at the moment
21:33:00 <Bonny> that's no good
21:33:00 <Bonny> but it's in the pass.. just need to move forward
21:34:00 <Bonny> past*
21:35:00 <doggyrat> yes, but in can not control that during sleep
21:35:00 <Bonny> no.. it's has to do with unresolved issues in your normal life
21:36:00 <doggyrat> sure and a lot of things in my past do influence my daily life too
21:37:00 <Bonny> that's what you need to resolve.. you can't keep living in the past
21:38:00 <doggyrat> i.e. my father lives about 500m away , i should have never made him move over here
21:38:00 <Bonny> you wanted to live close with your father to have a close relationship??
21:38:00 <doggyrat> we got him a cheap apartment and my halfsister came with him
21:39:00 <Bonny> do you see your father and halfsister?
21:40:00 <doggyrat> no, not at all he was and he is still an person with strange attitudes
21:40:00 <Bonny> do you wish you and your father had a good relationship?
21:40:00 <doggyrat> my halfsister moved back to italy not much time after she and my wife had a fight
21:41:00 <Bonny> that's all in the past hun..
21:41:00 <Bonny> you can't change the past to live your present
21:42:00 <Bonny> but you can change your present to live your futuer
21:42:00 <Bonny> future*
21:43:00 <Bonny> in other words.. just look at your past as a learning experience and learn from it to make good choices in your present
21:44:00 <doggyrat> in childhood you are taught attitudes etc. and these do have influence on your future life too
21:45:00 <Bonny> yes subcontiously
21:45:00 <Bonny> your dreams are not from the subcontious mind
21:45:00 <doggyrat> i broke up with all my family with the age of 20 year
21:46:00 <Bonny> I don't talk to my brother.. I don't let that stop me from sleeping peacefully
21:46:00 <Bonny> obviusly you had good reasons why you have broken up with your family
21:48:00 <doggyrat> all my situation is putting me and pressure, my wife has that irrational fear that if we do have 10 euro less per month
21:49:00 <Bonny> well you said you will be getting money again.. so I doubt it will be 10 euro or less
21:52:00 <doggyrat> that we can not live anymore
21:53:00 <doggyrat> if her retirement pension rises i do get less money so that the available amount of money stays the same
21:53:00 <Bonny> what do you mean by you can not live anymore?
21:54:00 <Bonny> ok.. but it would be more than 10 euros a month
21:56:00 <doggyrat> she had a lack of oxygen during her birth which caused a brain damage
21:57:00 <Bonny> ok
21:57:00 <doggyrat> this had influence on her whole life, and this is one of the reason that it is hard for her to learn new things
21:57:00 <Bonny> I understand
21:58:00 <doggyrat> but it may have caused also some of her emotional problems, apart of the familiar influences
21:59:00 <Bonny> ok
21:59:00 <Bonny> and yet she is able to look after you?
22:00:00 <doggyrat> No UNO today in melbourne ? the silence of the chatters is falling over the channel
22:00:00 <Bonny> I knew this would happen
22:00:00 <Bonny> it's his own fault
22:01:00 <doggyrat> she need more time to learn how to use things like smartphone , computer than i do
22:01:00 <Bonny> he has scared the chatters away
22:01:00 <^pHANTOM^> ;/
22:01:00 <Bonny> hey ^pHANTOM^
22:01:00 <doggyrat> ^pHANTOM^: hello
22:01:00 <^pHANTOM^> hey Bonny
22:01:00 <^pHANTOM^> hello doggyrat
22:01:00 <Bonny> how was your day ^pHANTOM^?
22:01:00 <^pHANTOM^> my day was ok
22:01:00 <^pHANTOM^> yours?
22:02:00 <Bonny> not too bad thanks
22:02:00 <^pHANTOM^> thats good
22:02:00 <Bonny> :)
22:02:00 <^pHANTOM^> :D
22:02:00 <Bonny> doggyrat.. so how did you go with your project yesterday? you said you got all the slices done right
22:02:00 <doggyrat> ^pHANTOM^: if you want to join the therapy session you have to pay
22:03:00 <^pHANTOM^> pay what?
22:03:00 <doggyrat> yes, i did just need two or three more slices of one kind
22:03:00 <Bonny> cool
22:05:00 <doggyrat> ^pHANTOM^: i was joking , because the topic before sound like a psychological therapy session
22:05:00 <Bonny> are you going to fablab today?
22:05:00 <doggyrat> i would if someone would be there , i do not have access on my own
22:05:00 <Bonny> doggyrat.. you just need to stop living in the past and make future plans
22:05:00 <Bonny> ok
22:05:00 <Bonny> we all have regrets
22:06:00 <^pHANTOM^> doggyrat ah ok
22:07:00 <doggyrat> Au$ 100 per hour :P
22:07:00 <Bonny> lol
22:07:00 <Bonny> I'd be happy with that lol
22:07:00 <Bonny> I've registered with an agent to help me find a job
22:08:00 <Bonny> but I doubt I will find a job while we're in lockdown
22:09:00 <^pHANTOM^> probably not.
22:09:00 <Bonny> yeah
22:09:00 <^pHANTOM^> ;/
22:09:00 <Bonny> but doesn't hurt to be prepareed
22:09:00 <^pHANTOM^> yes true
22:11:00 <Bonny> what did you do today, ^pHANTOM^?
22:11:00 <doggyrat> Bonny: all slices of the inside frame need to be redone because they do not have holes for the screws yet
22:11:00 <Bonny> oh that's a shame
22:11:00 <^pHANTOM^> Bonny not alot
22:11:00 <^pHANTOM^> just pottered aroud.
22:11:00 <Bonny> yeah same
22:12:00 <Bonny> but I did have a nap
22:12:00 <doggyrat> but in whole it will be 6 or 7 pieces
22:12:00 <Bonny> cool doggyrat
22:12:00 <doggyrat> i did not design them to work just to fit
22:12:00 <Bonny> I bought my dad a new watch to give him on father's day
22:12:00 <Bonny> these days you order online and then pick up
22:13:00 <Bonny> all stores are closed
22:13:00 <^pHANTOM^> yeah most stores are closed.
22:13:00 <Bonny> and you got them fitting which is good, doggyrat
22:13:00 <Bonny> yeah
22:14:00 <doggyrat> it is funny if the deliver a packet they do pose down the packet and step back leaving the scanner on top
22:15:00 <doggyrat> for you to confirm the receipt
22:15:00 <Bonny> yeah
22:16:00 <doggyrat> like in crime movie . Put it on the ground , Step back , i want to see your hands ...
22:16:00 <Bonny> :)
22:17:00 <Bonny> it has kind of become like that
22:17:00 <doggyrat> one of the time we got a packet , i did say to the guy "Step back i want to see your hands"
22:17:00 <Bonny> lol
22:17:00 <doggyrat> he got that joke and started laughing
22:18:00 <Bonny> I didn't have the watch delivered.. I picked it up from the store
22:18:00 <doggyrat> as we are home we are taking deliveries for the neighbours too
22:18:00 <Bonny> ok
22:20:00 <doggyrat> ^pHANTOM^: are you having your day off today
22:30:00 <doggyrat> i am having lunch
22:30:00 <Bonny> ok
22:40:00 <doggyrat> back
22:41:00 <doggyrat> Bonny: will you finish the marathon until monday
22:42:00 <Bonny> wb
22:42:00 <Bonny> no idea
22:42:00 <Bonny> I haven't watched much today
22:43:00 <Bonny> I still gave another season to watch
22:43:00 <Bonny> have*
22:45:00 <doggyrat> i moved the fan to another position in my camber, now it is blowing the air to me
22:45:00 <doggyrat> disadvantage i can not get out of the door
22:48:00 <Bonny> so you're locked in your chambers?
22:48:00 <doggyrat> if i do not move it back yes
22:49:00 <Bonny> which is an inconvenient
22:52:00 <doggyrat> but if i do like to sit on a chair i have to accept that i need to move things around
22:53:00 <Bonny> yeah
22:54:00 <doggyrat> time to clear my mind and having a shower
22:56:00 <doggyrat> later i might go on the balcony , because i doubt that there will be someone in the lab later
22:56:00 <Bonny> ok
22:56:00 <Bonny> enjoy your snooze
22:56:00 <doggyrat> as i still have clean trouser on, i should better not go to the dog area
22:57:00 <doggyrat> sleep well i am off for today
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