// #30&40's — 2004-03-13
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04:07:00 * Now talking in #30&40's
04:07:00 * Topic is '���������������� type !rules for some guidelines.. also Striker is now known as Strikerella..����������������'
04:07:00 * Set by HailStorm on Thu Mar 11 15:56:39
04:08:00 <linying> Good morning all... and RoBoBoT! :)
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04:08:00 <RoBoBoT> 5I hear apathy is on the increase, but who cares?
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04:21:00 <linying> !rules
04:21:00 <linying> hi tom2
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05:07:00 <NewSocks> RoBoBoT
05:07:00 <RoBoBoT> 5To some people religious freedom means the choices of churches which they stay home from.
05:07:00 <kc> hey trulady hunny hugggggs
05:07:00 <NewSocks> its kc where is the sunshine band
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05:09:00 <kc> i can only imagine the limited intelect it took to come up with that
05:09:00 <NewSocks> kc one does not use a hammer to fix a watch
05:10:00 <kc> i would be careful not to damage the watch in the first place
05:11:00 <NewSocks> lol kc rough day there???
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05:11:00 * NewSocks says 12HI4!!!! 10�������5(�)10�������5(�)10 tamerlane 5(�)10�������5(�)10�������
05:13:00 <kc> hey tamerlane hunny huggggers
05:13:00 <kc> nope groovy day here
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05:14:00 <tamerlane> kc: hola!
05:14:00 <tamerlane> haven't been around much, have been incredibly busy of late.
05:14:00 <kc> how u doin hun
05:15:00 <tamerlane> doing well, though, thank you -- and you?"
05:15:00 <kc> what u been busy at
05:15:00 <kc> groovy herethx hun
05:15:00 <tamerlane> some programming, some network support.
05:15:00 <kc> right on
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05:15:00 <tamerlane> and dealing with the printer from hell.
05:16:00 <kc> i hear that one4 hun
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05:16:00 <tamerlane> don't let yer kids grow up to put Apple laser printers on TCP/IP networks.
05:16:00 <kc> i,ll try to remember that :o)
05:16:00 <tamerlane> spews IPX & Appletalk all day, but there's not a peep on the TCP end of it.
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05:17:00 <kc> brb hun
05:17:00 <linying_zzz> ok kc
05:18:00 <tamerlane> I would like to take that printer out in a field & pulverize it like the printer in the movie "Office Space".
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05:21:00 <cyanmagenta> !seen whiff_of_bedlam
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05:25:00 <kc> bck
05:25:00 <kc> hiya linying :o)
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05:26:00 * kc uses a pen for a printer heheheh
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05:39:00 <houbou> the night squad
05:39:00 <kc> hey houbou
05:39:00 <houbou> hello kc
05:40:00 <houbou> heya hails, Kylara, TruLady
05:40:00 <kc> where in canada r u houbou?
05:41:00 <houbou> ontario.. why?
05:41:00 <kc> im in ontario also
05:41:00 <kc> pembroke just west of ottawa
05:41:00 <houbou> ah.. not far from me
05:41:00 <kc> where u at
05:42:00 <houbou> in the ottawa/hull area
05:42:00 <kc> right on-im in ottawa every second friday
05:42:00 <houbou> kewl
05:42:00 <kc> what do u do in the big city
05:43:00 <houbou> i'm a senior web developer for pwgsc and I work part-time as a help desk tech for bell/sympatico
05:44:00 <kc> right on-i think bell owns my sole-the internet server --cell phone - 2 phone lines- satelite and pager
05:44:00 <houbou> lol
05:44:00 <houbou> yeap.. your commmunication soul is done and dealt with :P~
05:45:00 <kc> i hate it all
05:46:00 <houbou> well, change to rogers AT&T
05:47:00 <kc> ive already refused to pay my cell bill-i get billed for the same phone on two bills and they tell me to just keep paying it and they will credit my account-my reply wasw a tad more colourful lol
05:47:00 <houbou> yeah.. computer systems are stupid, i don't blame ya, something similar happened to me
05:48:00 <kc> they have been promoising to fix it since november
05:48:00 <houbou> only?
05:48:00 <houbou> lol
05:48:00 <houbou> they are as slow as the goverment.. they must take their cues from them
05:49:00 <kc> i told them they can have thier phone back
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05:49:00 <tamerlane> seems like all the phone companies are like that.
05:49:00 <houbou> hey supermum is here
05:49:00 <kc> hiyua supermum
05:49:00 <supermum> hi
05:49:00 <supermum> seems I HAVE got a virus on my computer called worm_netsky.d
05:49:00 <houbou> ah
05:49:00 <supermum> is anybody any help with me getting rid of it?
05:49:00 <kc> well folks im going to check my royal mail :O)
05:49:00 <houbou> well
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05:50:00 <houbou> stop all processes on your pc supermum
05:50:00 <houbou> the
05:50:00 <houbou> n
05:50:00 <houbou> go to www.symantec.com
05:50:00 <houbou> and get the proper fix
05:50:00 <supermum> ah, ok, will try that
05:50:00 <supermum> I'm at trendmicro now, but the directions don't match things I can find on my comptuer
05:50:00 <houbou> ?
05:51:00 <houbou> well
05:51:00 <supermum> I'll go to symantec and read
05:51:00 <tamerlane> heh.
05:51:00 <houbou> you need to stop your processes first
05:51:00 <supermum> and will return and let you know if I found viable help!
05:51:00 <tamerlane> da worm is your fiend.
05:51:00 <houbou> ctrl-alt-del
05:51:00 <supermum> thanks
05:51:00 <houbou> and task manager
05:51:00 <houbou> and then look under processes
05:51:00 <houbou> if you tell me what they are
05:51:00 <houbou> i can tell you what to close
05:51:00 <houbou> in case the virus works with other stuff
05:51:00 <tamerlane> I was lookin' at the zip files & .pifs on a few attachments the other day.
05:51:00 <tamerlane> 'course, binaries don't provide much entertainment.
05:52:00 <supermum> when I go control/alt/delete
05:52:00 * houbou of course always recommends nosey people who receive e-mails from people they don't know, to just delete them.
05:52:00 <supermum> I just get asked if I want to shutdown, end task, or cancel
05:52:00 <houbou> ?
05:52:00 <houbou> which OS do you have supermum?
05:52:00 <supermum> yeah I DO houbou - and I haven't opened ANY attachments from those emails
05:52:00 <supermum> I'm on 95
05:53:00 <houbou> oi
05:53:00 <houbou> 95
05:53:00 <houbou> lol
05:53:00 <houbou> i can't remember with 95
05:53:00 <houbou> however
05:53:00 <houbou> if you go to start, help
05:53:00 <houbou> and type task manager
05:53:00 <houbou> it will tell you the key combo you need
05:53:00 <houbou> once you are at task manager
05:54:00 <houbou> you will see a list of processes
05:54:00 <supermum> that's the problem!
05:54:00 <houbou> then i can help ya
05:54:00 <supermum> task manager is NOT in that index!!! already tried that!
05:54:00 <houbou> you can't go to help?
05:54:00 <houbou> go to start, help
05:54:00 <houbou> task manager has to be there
05:54:00 <houbou> no?
05:54:00 <supermum> NO
05:54:00 <houbou> well
05:54:00 * supermum thinks the virus killed my task manager????
05:54:00 <houbou> let me check something for ya
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05:55:00 <supermum> in the meantime I will go to symantec
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06:00:00 <tamerlane> luckily we've not had to deal with any of the worms/viruses that sieve piece of crap Lookout/Lookout Express has been getting nailed with for several weeks now.
06:00:00 <tamerlane> well, years, that is.
06:00:00 <tamerlane> must be part of the new security initiatives at MS.
06:00:00 <supermum> hi Deirdre - we're in deep do-do - houbou is trying to help me get rid of a virus
06:01:00 <supermum> problem is I'm using windows 95
06:02:00 <supermum> yikes now I'm reading instructions back into dos!
06:02:00 <supermum> but I'd be willing to do that if necessary
06:02:00 <tamerlane> heh.
06:02:00 <supermum> are you any help in this tamerlane????
06:02:00 <supermum> I have worm_netsky.d in my computer
06:02:00 <tamerlane> oh, I'd be doing the same thing you are now.
06:03:00 <tamerlane> tracking down the removal information on symantec or whoever's site.
06:03:00 <tamerlane> typically they have spiffy little tools for it, though.
06:03:00 <supermum> it's in my mail\Trash
06:03:00 <houbou> supermum
06:03:00 <houbou> download your stuff from symantec
06:03:00 <houbou> then reboot into safe mode
06:04:00 <houbou> ctrl-alt-del should give you a task list option even now
06:04:00 <houbou> but if it doesn't
06:04:00 <houbou> your pc is muffed up bad
06:04:00 <houbou> however in safe mode
06:04:00 <houbou> you shouldn't have a problem cleaning up your system
06:04:00 <houbou> just download your tools before hand
06:04:00 <supermum> no, ctrl-alt-del only gives me 3 options - end task, shutdown or cancel
06:05:00 <houbou> i know
06:05:00 <supermum> agggggggghhhhhhhhhhh
06:05:00 <houbou> you should have 6 options
06:05:00 <houbou> but like i say
06:05:00 * supermum suggest somebody hand her her cane!
06:05:00 <houbou> lol
06:05:00 * supermum is feeling old
06:05:00 <houbou> what's the name of the worm/virus again?
06:06:00 <supermum> the file is worm_netsky.d
06:06:00 <houbou> w32.netsky.d? right
06:06:00 <supermum> and it's in C:\Program files|Netscape|Isers|Kpam|<ao;
06:06:00 <supermum> whoops - moved my hand over!
06:06:00 <houbou> ook
06:06:00 <houbou> that link brings you up to the proper page in symantec
06:07:00 <houbou> in the notes section, there is a link for a removal tool
06:07:00 <houbou> download the removal tool
06:07:00 <houbou> put it on your desktop
06:07:00 <supermum> yeah - that's where I am
06:07:00 <houbou> then when you have it
06:07:00 <houbou> reboot into safe mode.. you know how? pressing f8 and choosing safe mode..
06:07:00 <houbou> then run the removal tool
06:07:00 <houbou> when you are finished
06:07:00 <houbou> reboot back to normal mode
06:07:00 <houbou> and enjoy
06:07:00 <supermum> no - on the "safe mode" - run that by me
06:08:00 <supermum> obviously I have to know EVERYTHING before I start???
06:08:00 <supermum> so when I turn computer off and on again I do what???
06:08:00 <supermum> so I just click on the "removal tool" on that page????
06:08:00 <supermum> doh
06:09:00 <houbou> listen
06:09:00 <houbou> when your pc boots up
06:09:00 <tamerlane> hehehe
06:09:00 * supermum needs explexit instructions!
06:09:00 <houbou> you can go to safe mode
06:09:00 <houbou> by pressing f8
06:09:00 <houbou> when you press f8
06:09:00 <supermum> ok, so press f8 soon as it starts to turn on again
06:09:00 <houbou> you know.. like after the computer does it's ram check
06:09:00 <tamerlane> you forgot the part about her clicking the heels of her ruby slippers together & saying "There's no place like home...."
06:09:00 <houbou> yeah
06:09:00 <houbou> i did
06:09:00 <houbou> lol
06:10:00 <houbou> anyway when you press f8, a few timews
06:10:00 <supermum> heheheh so AFTER the ram check
06:10:00 <houbou> eventually you will get a menu
06:10:00 <houbou> a boot menu
06:10:00 <houbou> select the safe mode option.. just safe mode.. not safe mode with network
06:10:00 <houbou> your pc will take a while to boot
06:10:00 <houbou> eventually you will boot
06:10:00 <houbou> run the removal tool
06:10:00 <houbou> when it's finished
06:10:00 <houbou> shut down
06:10:00 <houbou> and restart as normal
06:11:00 <houbou> system should be fine then :)
06:11:00 <houbou> if not, get windows xp :P~
06:11:00 <supermum> :-�
06:11:00 <supermum> so I do all that AFTER I click on and download the "removal tool" from symantec???
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06:12:00 <supermum> I understand MORE viruses attack windows XP than the old 95!!!!?????
06:12:00 <houbou> yeah supermum
06:12:00 * supermum hands houbou a brandy for coping with her!
06:12:00 <houbou> you need to download the file first
06:12:00 <houbou> and it's gotta be on your hard drive
06:12:00 <houbou> before you reboot the system
06:12:00 <houbou> and then press that f8 key, until you get the boot menu
06:12:00 <houbou> and then you select safe mode
06:13:00 <houbou> and once in windows / safe mode, you run the removal tool
06:13:00 <supermum> ok - so I will go off and do that, then return !
06:13:00 <houbou> then when it's finished.. bye bye.. restart system
06:13:00 <houbou> have fun
06:13:00 <supermum> hhahahahahahah
06:13:00 <supermum> have fun!!!! you've got to be joking!
06:13:00 <supermum> you've got the brandy!
06:14:00 <houbou> and you got the virus ;)
06:14:00 <supermum> yeah - kill the guy who sent it to me!!!!
06:15:00 <supermum> I've been VERY careful about opening NOOOOO attachments from "weird" emails
06:15:00 <houbou> gee, you got that via e-mail supermum
06:15:00 <houbou> well then get yourself a good anti-virus and a good firewall, especially if you are using highspeed internet
06:15:00 <supermum> so I suppose I have to email EVERYONE on my email list and apologize and explain after I clean it??
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06:16:00 <supermum> NOT using highspeed internet - not with WIndows 95!!! not worth while!
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06:17:00 <supermum> ta ta
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06:25:00 <peterg> gday all
06:25:00 <peterg> good morning
06:26:00 <peterg> hi
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06:55:00 <kc> ghiya houbou
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06:55:00 <kc> heya tamerlane hun hugggs
06:55:00 <kc> heya trulady hunny hugggs
06:55:00 <kc> hiya tawny
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06:57:00 <kc> hiya mc
06:57:00 <kc> 0223
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